Can a power plan boost your FPS? - Balanced vs High performance vs Ultimate power plan | Windows 11
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- Can a power plan boost your FPS in games? In this video I will compare three Windows 11 power plans: Balanced, High performance and Ultimate.
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Can a power plan boost your FPS in games? In this video I will compare three Windows 11 power plans: Balanced, High performance and Ultimate.
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finally someone who shows the true performance, instead of saying that you will get a 300% fps increase. Keep going
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I think that this test would be more impactful in CPU bound situations, where you are in the upper echelon of fps (Valorant, Overwatch, CS, R6) for example
You probably haven't watched the entire video.
@@FroznHood I just rewatched the video twice to make sure I didn't miss any points and while I do agree with your points with extensive graphics settings, I am saying it would be more likely to notice a difference on a high end sysem with FPS within the range of 300-500. You only made a mention of utilizing max settings because the GPU would need to pull more power. In those cases, your FPS is limited by the GPU and that comes with a latency penalty as well.
The times where you would want to maximize your framerate above all is during competitve games like overwatch, where my system (5800x3d, 4080, 32GB 3600) can easily pull over 300 FPS consistently. In these situations, it would be easier to extrapolate data to determine the difference in FPS because the FPS itself is so high. I think if you were to also test the 1% lows and .1% lows with competitve settings in a game like Overwatch, CS, Valorant, that the statistics could reflect more of a difference. In these cases though, it is harder to do so in an actual match due to different variables. Interestingly enough on CS 2, your 1% lows are quite different on each power plan which would indicate a slight difference in smoothness of gameplay.
If this test was to merely reflect if your GPU performance can be increased by the power plan, then I think your findings answer that question. If we are going off achieving the maximum framerate possible (which again, is limited by the GPU especially at 4k) then your test does not reflect that.
You can consider this point of view: Power plans should be about energy consumption and its relation with performance. That is why they are called that way, I believe. And these are not CPU power plans. They are not related only to the CPU, how much energy it consumes and how much of its performance it can utilise at given energy consumption. The power plans should be related to the overall system energy consumption and performance. And, in systems with discrete GPU, that is the component that draws most power, several times more than the CPU (something like 340W vs 55W in my case). If the idea of the Balance power plan is to balance the performance with energy consumption (that is what they say in the description of the plan), it should limit the performance at some degree when the power consumption is "too high". But the only way to simulate "too high" energy consumption is to load the GPU as much as possible so the total energy consumption of the system to be at its maximum. In other words, to make sure that GPU is working at its limits and uses maximum energy. If you leave the CPU to do most of the work, like in the scenarios you suggest (CPU bottleneck), the system will require much less constant overall power, because of the low load of the GPU, and the Balanced power plan should have less reasons to trigger its effects, whatever they are. So, in case of "too high" energy consumption, the High performance plan should provide better performance than the Balanced plan (again, according to its description), and the Ultimate Performance plan should provide even better or maximum performance, if that is what "ultimate" means. Also, the times where you want to maximize your performance is when you don't get enough FPS. When you already have above 300 FPS, you probably don't care about getting 5 or 10 more.
@@FroznHood I get what you are saying about the energy consumption point and its relation to performance. I do not know the intricacies of the Windows power plan and how it operates, but the main critique that I would have with this test is that running these games in 4k with high graphics settings will already push the hardware so aggressively that you will not be able to tell a difference in performance regardless of power plan. Because the energy consumption is already so high on the system, the results will likely be margin of error because there is no headroom for performance. Looking at CS2 again, the power consumption between each of the power plans on the GPU are identical which is to be expected. Interestingly enough on the higher power plans, the temps go down when in theory, you should expect the opposite behavior because balanced is supposed to save power and thermals. Yet on high peformance, the 1% lows have a noticeable change compared to ultimate. In a CPU bound situation because there is GPU performance left on the table, you could likely see a furhter increase as the FPS gets higher.
Let me be clear and say that I am not claiming that a power plan will magically give you a boost of FPS in all cases, because that is not true. But, if your system is running a 340 watts with 99% GPU usage, Windows will already recognize that the GPU is utilizing all that performance and the power plan cannot act as a limiter because the GPU is demanding so much performance. I could be wrong on that though. Perhaps if you were to change your Nvidia Control Panel GPU settings and test "Prefer Maximum Peformance" compared to the "Normal" mode, we might see more of a difference. Running valorant on prefer maximum performance has my GPU clock stay constantly at 2520 regardless of settings. With the Normal mode on, the GPU clock would shift around 1600-1900 in gameplay. I would have to do more testing to see if there is any FPS difference between the power mode of the GPU and the windows power plan though.
Regarding the CPU, Microsoft has the minimum processor state and maximum processor state settings. On balanced, the miniumum is 0% On high performance, the minimum is 100%. For the maximum processor state on both plans, it 100%. Why do I feel this is relevant? Well, in a CPU bottlenecked situation, I suspect that the boosting algoritiihim and the way the operating system handles the processor may show more dramatic results at higher framerates by having the minimum at 100%. Why? Because the OS (through the power plan and energy consumption to my vague knowledge), will not spare any room for altering the performance of the CPU. I think a game like overwatch would be good to test this with because of the high engine cap and the chaotic nature of fights that occur that can affect 1% lows. If you are running a game like Overwatch and put the minimum processor state at 100%, do you think it would have a positive effect for keeping framerates high and latency low compared to having a minimum of 0%, which can shift the performance of the CPU around a bit more? I am not saying my thought process is right, but I think that this is a pivotal point to consider. The total power consumption of a high end system does matter, but the system will still use the necessary resourrces to pull high performance. So having a better power plan in lower power consumption situations should still help peformance DEPENDING on the situation, specs, and game. There are videos on power plans and how it connects to latency / performance as well.
I agree that times where you are most dire for a performance improvement is when you don't get enough, but when you have a high end monitor, high end mouse, optimized setup that you are trying to pull the max performance out of, you are going to try and find performance improvements. Specifically, in 1% lows in competitve FPS titles. Average FPS may be good, but if your FPS dips below 240 in competitve games (I have a 280hz monitor), you can tell. To me, maintaining 1% lows that are high is very important. If multiple runs are conducted and the FPS difference is statistically significant, then it is worth utilizing a different powerplan for maximum smothness and latency. I suspect in competitve games if you are running prefer maxmimum performance on your GPU at competitve settings with different power plans, you could find a potential difference. I am sure there is a flaw in my thought process but those are my thoughts.
Imagine testing on 4k and expecting a powerplan to change anything.
Like the vid man! What im REALLY interested is latency. I know by now nothing will increase FPS, but some things will help with fluidity and latency. I am looking for a video where they measure those things.
This is not a good test. You need to use CPU bound scenarios to get any change from the windows power plans if they are there. Reason being, the windows power plans only affect the CPU as the GPU drivers are what control the GPUs power.
Gpu performance mode
& Cpu power plan are similar.
They allow the cpu and gpu to downclock to save power.
This is only a short answer to what they do in general. But here's an easy way to observe it yourself.
Set both of them to default.
(Restart pc if gpu power was tweaked)
Go in a game and run at the highest fps.
Running Riva, you will be able to observe your cpu and gpu are pegged at what they can output for that specific game.
Caping the fps ex.(30) will show lower clock speeds. Allowing to save power and for me a slight increase in latency.
-Power plan at ultimate and Performance allows them to stay at high clock speeds even in lower demanding tasks.
So even at 30fps, your pc will stay at higher clock speeds. It wont try to lower them down.
This for me feels smoother when transitioning from lets say gameplay to a cinematic.
By no means will they increase perf by 1000%
But it will allow the user to experience maximal use of both cpu and gpu in their system rather then the system auto tuning things down while things in game are less demanding.
Now try being completely cpu bound and measure 1% lows. not entirely sure why you would test a CPU power plan at 4k resolution...
your video was more useful then anyone elses, Thanks for the video, i hope you get 10k subs soon, Thanks!
Thank you!
I'd like to see, if possible, some different ways to test in game. I think just walking around the map, with not much going on, doesn't really provide an accurate test. In a game like Valorant, my fps starts to drop during moments where a lot is happening. Such as several ultimates, 2 vipers, etc. Perhaps you can test some of this stuff under those conditions?
Yes, it does not affect anything! But what I noticed about tweaking the Balanced power plan is a reduce in the CPU temperatures!
i swear i hit that like button which i rarely do before you mentioned it, how? because of genuine stuff like this.. hope u continue like this
Thank you very much for your support!
I saw a comment saying Ultimate Performance plan will use more power even on idle. I wish you could show that difference between these three plans to see if it were true. 🤷🏻♀️
Do you do this with the AMD Ryzen chipset drivers installed? I saw in the power options in the settings menu (not control panel)
I am not sure I understand the question. Of course I have AMD chipset driver installed.
those windows setting wont work, if you have not enabled amd power saver in bios... cant remember correct name
I have laptop Acer Aspire 7 (amd ryzen 5 5500u, rtx3050ti 4gb, 16gb ram ddr4, 1gb ssd m2)
And i can say, that the energy saving mode helps to lower the temperatures a little. That's all
Thank you for sharing this.
even the results its all the same, but at least this balanced power plan can reduce heat, stutter while still on the same fps as high & ultimate
i use a laptop which is probably an old series or so i am not sure but it is MSI
The cpu is: intel i5-10210u 1.60Ghz
Gpu: Nvidia Geforce mx350
Ram:8gb
and from what i tested out balanced mode works best for me. High performance mode is not consistent with the fps, When the gpu hits above 60 celcius it began to have a decrease in performance
You are experiencing thermal throttling and that is why your performance is not consistent and/or cannot increase. The Balanced mode probably reduces the energy consumption and keeps your temps lower.
@@FroznHood I see
Hello, whats the best driver for rtx 4090 for all games in overall?
It is not easy to recommend a driver in general. It depends on the games you play.
@@FroznHood Lets say fivem and warzone or fps games
537.58 or 552.22/552.44
Even worse than the guides are the countless lies from certain developers that their software will boost your performance for just xx$ subscription etc.
People still fall for this stuff.
I do not have this option? How do I activate it?
from cmd
This is seriously good content by someone who seems what the f he's talking about. Subbed.
Thank you!
noone should be surprised by this
its only the gpu that is maxed out here! try lower rez then u might see diffrence in fps
What kind of difference? 50%, 700%?
@@FroznHood we dont know, but try 720 p rez low gfx and im sure u will see a diffrent result compaird to what u got :)
Ultimate performance PP gets me 2x performance of power saver PP
I am on a laptop and it has a intel hd 4000
@@Shahzad12357 "changing the plan can lead to some performance improvement, probably in some laptops"
@@themoyaiman_ i heard that he also asked for our experience with it maybe you didn't listen to that
That's because Power Saver PP limits max CPU mhz to half. See for yourself while running CPU-Z.
that's the biggest placebo effect of windows that even today I see idiots recommending. XD
Yes, we need more debunking videos to know the truth 👍👍 thanks man 😊
cs2 %1 low better omg high performance
I think the voic is AI
you desserve sub
Thank you!
Ai voice doesn't know what oc is, smh.