I think these maintenance products make detailing/washes much more enjoyable. We do not see much of these products on RUclips and you go above and beyond to do in-depth test and recommendations for these. Much thanks for that :)
Keith C - Thanks so much my friend! I enjoy shooting the videos to show you guys how these hold up. I agree with you as well, so fun to pull out the maintenance toppers to keep the paint and protection refreshed, that’s why it’s tough to run all these long term pure durability tests!
It’s crazy how you can go to Walmart and pick up the ultimate quick wax and get hydrophobics like that.... super impressive coming from such a simple spray formula. Great video as always man, I watch every video but don’t always comment so just know I’m watching 😎👍🏼
Thanks Jordan I appreciate it! Absolutely, it does have a very nice peak hydrophobic performance out of it, and it's not that crazy heavy of a spray topper as well. Really good stuff, paired with that tropical fruit punch scent and yeah I can use that every week!
Thanks khyoon! I just need to figure out how to edit the videos to push out some better content like the other channels are doing, they do a much better job at that than me!
Your videos are awesome. No video editing wizardry would improve the overall message and results. Your camera quality is top notch I can see every pixel of every bead. You line up that test panel perfectly there's not really much room for improvement. You don't need a blacked out studio like jimbo (love your channel too James!) Hope you get some graphene and dpc stuff to play with.
You seem to always answer any questions I might in your reviews. Wondered if the QD played well with CQuartz, and as usual, you covered it. Always thorough, always well presented, always professional, and always very well narrated. I appreciate your time and effort making these.
Thanks Jay Cee! What I need to do is grab some of the coatings I have on the shelf, and run some sort term topping tests with them while they're fresh on the paint to see if there's more of an impact. Currently, I've got these coatings around the paint that are fully cured and passed their prime on the paint, and there could be that difference in the impact of trying to top a fresher healthy coating that I need to dive more into testing with different toppers. But absolutely, last washes of the coatings with the Ultimate Quik Detailer and Ultimate Quik Wax were still very hydrophobic during the wash. I appreciate your feedback!
Thanks! Yeah that's RUclips for you, even channels I'm subscribed to I don't get all the notifications with the bell on, and a lot of the comments on my videos I don't get a notice for.
This one has been a long time coming for both of these formulas, these were first released around 2007-2008 so this feels like a good time for a refreshment. I think Meguiar's did a great job at not tweaking them too much so that Ultimate loyalists aren't disappointed, I'm very satisfied. Now moving forward, this might be something that we may see become a trend in the market with companies trying to one up each other by pushing updated formulas at a much faster rate, possibly at the expense of actual innovation. If it comes to that then this will be addressed.
If they can get Bead Maker to produce some insane beading by itself without sacrificing any of the other qualities of the current Bead Maker, I'd be all over that! Actually they did just release a limited blue version of Bead Maker over at The Rag Company recently, I was thinking about snagging that up.
Awesome video brother. Definitely seeing a great difference in stacking like you said! Haven't gotten to try out the Quick detailer/wax. Love these tests man! Hey, how do you like that Blackfire Paint Prep???? Compared to Prep All? Appreciate you man! Take it easy!
Thanks PapaSmurf! Feels like the golden age of detailing right now, so many good products out there it's getting difficult to narrow down the options into favorites. But I think if I started over from scratch and got rid of everything on the shelf, I don't think I would hesitate to add the Ultimate sprays to the lineup. Blackfire Paint Prep is working well, doesn't have the heavy solvent smell that Prep-All has but I still prefer Prep-All in the end. Better pricing, smoother application than Blackfire.
@@WaxMode awesome! That's good to know.. shoot I've often had that clean slate thought more than once! Sooo many great products! Good to know about the Blackfire. I've still got tons of prep all left. Guess I should get to detailing huh?!😄
Found them for 8/10$ at target! Definitely worth it. Ease of use was a 10/10. I’ve been using nothing but TW lately and you realize just how heavy those products feel, and how light these feel. Great review!
Absolutely Gabe, that's one of the things that I really like about these Meguiar's is that lighter feeling they have. If a product is going to be a bit heavier, then I want it to behave like the Polish Angel sprays which are super easy to level out on the paint compared to other heavier products.
Yes this is definitely the way to go when you're working across the entire paint, have a dedicated or multiple towels specifically for the final wipe to get a cleaner wipeoff.
Excellent review of these two products love the old ones. Will definitely pick these up as well when the old ones are empty. Can’t agree with you more on the topping of certain products and Meguiars with there fragrances for products are amazing.
Thanks Miller! Yeah if you try these out let me know how you like them. I've got my old batch up in Chicago right now so I couldn't do a direct side by side between the new and the old formulas, it's funny because I probably have 10 bottles of the Ultimate Quik Wax up north just snagging them when they were on clearance for $2 a bottle, and now the new version is out!
Thanks Barry! Yes I'm a fan of how the Ultimate Waterless Wash smells as well. They're on an absolute fragrance mission over there at Meguiar's and they're smashing it out of the park for me! What I like about the new Ultimate Quik Detailer and Ultimate Quik Wax, is the smell is not overbearing. It's just the right intensity to where I'll never get tired of it.
I don't care so much for gloss, or slickness, so much as hydrophobic. I like to top up after each wash but I've always questioned if I was negatively effecting the hydrophobic properties in the short term or long term. As products degrade performance decrease but a lot of these quick detailers work well at first but don't last all too long, I've always wondered in the long term if topping with a quick detailer product was a good idea, they degrade quickly (relative to coatings), I've not really been certain that after lets say 3 weeks the degraded quick detailer would negatively effect the hydrophobic qualities vs not having it on the coating at all. I still use because I just like to see that water beading lol
Right on! My preferences can change with the wind, sometimes it's nice to pull out some slickness champions and not get caught up in hydrophobic wizardry. As much as I like hydrophobics, the hot environment here in Florida is best suited for rinseless washing on a regular basis, which really negates the attraction for insane hydrophobic monsters. It's just too hot and sunny most of the time to be washing the paint down with hard water if I was really trying to avoid hard water spotting. In that case, I would be going with something like Uber Rinseless Wash and topping up with some slickness monsters on the coatings on a regular basis rather than reaching for some more hydrophobic toppers. Even though the coatings can be affected by your toppers in a negative way, the important part is they can still be protecting the paint at a very high level, regardless of how extreme their top layer hydrophobic performance is holding up.
I love the old quick detailer , especially the smell . I always thought it smelled like grapes . I’d detail the truck, if it needed it or not, just for that smell. Haa
Right the original smell on the Ultimate Detailer I was also a fan of! I do like the new one better though so I'm not disappointed. Turtle Wax did change up the scent on their updated Ice Spray Wax and I did prefer the smell on the older formula, so sometimes you win some and you lose some.
So many players now in the car care market with new ones popping up almost daily the market has become very competitive. Makes it a very exciting time for the enthusiast/consumer. I am fairly certain the market will soon become oversaturated sending some products down the closeout outlet path. Consumer wise that is a win. I expect some product lines to fail not based on their merit or lack thereof but because average consumer Joe can only afford to have so many products on hand at any given time.
Great points! That's the importance on building up an attractive brand, it's not just about how good the product itself is, you've got to draw me into grabbing for that product as opposed to something else. Meguiar's is doing a really good job at that for me, the bottles look great, I love the new design, the new Opus style sprayer tops are some of my favorites, and the fragrance is fantastic. There's slicker products out there than both of these right here, there's products that will give you even more impressive water behavior, but Meguiar's is able to package together both the performance of the chemical, the ease of use, along with the aesthetics of the product much more effectively than many on the market, and that's what makes me grab for it over some other choices.
👍 👍 A test on the panel, old version Vs new version would have been interesting !, water beading, sheeting , resistance ... This version seems excellent to me for coating maintenance!
Nico ultimate focus RS2 - Yeah I had the old stock of the previous formula’s back up in Chicago or I would have done a side by side comparison. I’m definitely loving the improved formulas! I tried the Ultimate Quik Detailer on top of the crazy hydrophobic Polish Angel High Gloss and Rapidwaxx recently and it was able to maintain perfect hydrophobic performance.
I've got my brother doing a lot of recon work with High Speed Wax on his new truck. He does like it but absolutely has to use it wet to avoid some streaking. It's been a while since I pulled High Speed Wax out, could definitely be time to do so!
Love these sprayers. I don't think the other sprayers are bad, there's just something about the way these Opus sprayers atomize on the paint that is more satisfying to me. They hold up really well also, I don't think I've ever had one of these go bad and break on me.
Absolutely! I need one for the CarPro Eraser scent too, in fact I think CarPro came out with one for that. I just checked now it's called the SkysBlue Car Perfume, I might have to snag that one up! But yes, BSD does has that fantastic scent which is also one of my favorites. Delicious!
WaxMode Oooh! I’ve never smelled eraser, only gyeon prep and pearl nano’s decon. What does eraser smell like? I might try SkysBlue if it sounds good...
@@groundcontrol6876 Eraser smells really similar, if not identical to Gyeon Prep. In the world of paint preps it doesn't get much better than how those smell. Ethos Detox does smell pretty good as well.
Great video man! I have been looking for a video that combines the hybrid ceramic wax with quik detailer/wax to see if it still kept hydrophobic properties! Definitely getting a sub from me!
My pick would be the Hybrid Ceramic Detailer. Since I'm working with a lot of paint coatings, it's definitely the one out of the bunch that has the best ability to refresh the hydrophobic potential of those paint coatings.
Shinee Wax I definitely need to get my hands on, I know Jon at Forensic Detailing and Brian at Apex Detail have gotten some fantastic gloss number jumps using Shinee Wax on their test panels. Tac System is still not taking new orders due to Covid here in the states so I might reach out to Carzilla and see what kind of shipping costs would be from Canada over to me. But that is the hot product in terms of gloss right now. My gloss quest is still ongoing. My main test panel at the peak abrasive limit is just not seeing any significant improvement in measurable gloss out of most products, Poorboy's World Black Hole Glaze was able to marginally improve gloss above the abrasive numbers with Perfect Finish after washing the glaze, but I still need to run a lot more tests with this and it's still less than 1 gloss unit difference. Other cars that I work on and detail I just don't have the daily access to really be able to observe and quantify the gloss effectively. I've been really satisfied with the gloss range of most products I've worked with over the years given the abrasive prep beforehand, but if I happen to pick up a nice car with some deeper and darker paint, I will be on the hunt for the gloss unicorn to further the quest.
That is a great question, and I REALLY like the Hybrid Ceramic Detailer. It is a bit heavier than the Ultimate Quik Detailer though, so if you're touching up spots or streaking or smears, Ultimate Quik Detailer is the better clean up product for me. But as far as maintaining the coatings' extreme hydrophobic performance, the Hybrid Ceramic Detailer would be my optimal choice especially if those waxes/sealants/coatings have really started to diminished and I want to jump that water behavior back up a significant amount above what you could achieve with Ultimate Quik Wax. HCD is the most hydrophobic of the bunch with one coat, it's a little more expensive and I think UQW is a great balance of performance priced underneath HCD. If I could have one it would be Hybrid Ceramic Detailer, I should have another video showcasing this one in more detail in the future.
@@WaxMode As usual, you nailed it. Great way of describing the differences. They are truly very different products with different nuances/strengths/weaknesses.
James - Expect a video soon on Rapidwaxx, it’s definitely the one to go with first for guys looking to dip into the Polish Angel lineup, really similar to High Gloss and Cosmic Spritz in short term performance.
WaxMode and Viewers, Since I discovered Optimum No Rinse (ONR), a quick detailer is no longer necessary in my arsenal. As you know, ONR is also available with wax or no wax. It can be used as a clay lube as well. ONR is very reasonably priced as well. I can wash about 600 cars for about $20.00. ONR is a Game Changer!
Right on Hartland, once you get into rinseless and waterless wash concentrates, you gain incredible value out of being able to dilute them into clay lubricants and spray detailers. I still really like the Wolfgang Uber Rinseless Wash the best, I've also had good results out of the Blackfire Wet Diamond Waterless Wash concentrate and Pinnacle Liquid Crystal Waterless Wash concentrate. It's been a while since I pulled ONR out for a rinseless wash since I picked up Uber Rinseless about 4-5 years ago, but ONR was still great stuff too.
ONR works great makes it super shiny but doesnt mask micro swirls, from 5 feet away you cant tell a difference ultimate spray wax over it really enhances the shine from 3 feet or less
Good video. Is there any chemical or scientific explanation as to why some products like the QD seem to allow the base layer to shine through when standalone this is a 5/10 beader? Never quite managed to wrap my head around this lol!
I'm sure there are some good explanations down the rabbit hole with some guys that have a chemistry background, but nothing off the top of my head. Just seems like the topper is piggybacking on the chemistry of the base protectant in some instances. Ultimate Quik Detailer is relatively lighter, and those lighter forms of detailers are going to be much less likely to want to mask over the base protectant and reduce performance. After this video I was working with different toppers over the hydrophobic Polish Angel products, and the Hybrid Solutions Ceramic 3-in-1 Detailer which is quite heavy by itself, that will reduce Rapidwaxx's hydrophobic behavior pretty noticeably, whereas Ultimate Quik Detailer leaves it unaffected with great hydrophobics after the rinse. I definitely need to dive further down the chemistry rabbit hole.
I definitely want to get my hands on the new paste wax for sure to try out against the older one, I saw them on the shelf recently on the store so they’re available. The liquid wax I’m not sure if I’ll go that route, it depends on if I start stacking up on test panel hoods. Also saw the new Paint Coating kit on the shelf for around $60 so eventually I’ll try that one out too. Still need to move the majority of my gear and products up to the new location, that will be happening next month and then I can start steamrolling on new testing.
For how long does the quick wax lasts? Do I need to apply ceramic detailer after this wax, something like hybrid ceramic spray or Rainx? Or not needed?
Ultimate Quik Wax (UQW) is designed for maintenance, I would not recommend using this as your main protectant. Durability is going to vary and is largely dependent on how healthy the base paint or protection is before applying something on top, and UQW you could see anywhere as little as a week of durability, to as long as over a month. But since this is designed strictly for maintenance, then durability is not much of a factor because you can use this regularly after your washes and reserve your main protection to be applied much less often. So I would choose something like Ultimate Paste Liquid Wax as my main protection, reapply that after every 2-5 months, but then preserve it using Ultimate Quik Wax after my regular washes, and I can use UQW as often as I'd like. If I'm using something like Hybrid Ceramic Wax as my main protection, then I would maintain this with Hybrid Ceramic Detailer instead of UQW, because the chemistry is more similar to one another. You can mix and match protectants and toppers but I would generally recommend staying within the same lineup in the brand, Hybrid Ceramic Detailer is heavier than UQW and will be better at maintaining the more hydrophobic properties of Hybrid Ceramic Wax compared to UQW, although either should still work well.
@@WaxMode Thanks for your time and your valuable feedback. I like your idea of using a wax (to maintain paint) and topping with a ceramic detailer to maintain the wax and protect the paint. U mentioned hybrid as a ceramic detailer, I actually use Rainx, but I don't think Rainx is as a good as hybrid. Have seen reviews saying the only different is in longitivity. Hybrid lasts for 6 months, Rainx lasts for 1-2 months. Have you tried Rainx? I also think the added layer by Hybrid ceramic detailer is thicker than the one by Rainx, diff is few more micrometers. Finally do u think it's really good idea to use wax after applying the ceramic detailer? What is the point if ceramic detailers are heavier? Also I heard some types of waxes (like carnauba wax) can remove the ceramic coating! Please be patient with me as I'm little bit confused! A lot of such products in the market and you r not sure who should be applied after who and if adding one can negatively affect the other. My thinking was usually that ceramic detailers should be the final layer but u r saying u can use waxes after every wash to maintain the hybrid ceramic coating. I don't think all waxes can be used after applying the ceramic spray coating/detailer by Hybrid or Rainx. I would be v careful on what type of wax to apply and yes mixing brands is so annoying. I was interested in Mafra products and metal car care product but I would think this should be used before a ceramic detailer is applied. Also do car wash shampoos damage the layer applied by ceramic detailers???
How do you think these compare to the old formula? I’ve had excellent results from the previous formula but it doesn’t look like meguiars took the same path as turtle wax for the formula update with increase chemica resistance, though it looks like it’s a bit more hydrophobic?
They're definitely still similar to the older formulas, this Ultimate Quik Detailer does feel a bit slicker to me, and Ultimate Quik Wax does look like it has a jump in hydrophobic performance compared to the old one. Still just as easy to work with. I think in order for Meguiar's to add in some of the properties to cause the products to be more chemically resistant, that would completely change up the way these products feel in terms of how heavy they are, how much wiping it takes to level them down, and how much hydrophobic performance that you can get. Usually the spray products that do excel in chemical resistance, I don't see them having quite the hydrophobic potential or lighter feeling as you apply them to the paint that Ultimate Quik Wax has. Better for Meguiar's if they want to come out with something that packs a lot of chemical resistance to come out with a completely new and separate product for that role, I personally would not be willing to give up the good features of Ultimate Quik Wax in favor of better chemical resistance.
You could, but I would rather use Hybrid Ceramic Detailer (HCD) as the drying aid on both M27 and Hybrid Ceramic Liquid Wax. HCD is a little heavier than Ultimate Quik Wax or D156, but still very usable on a wet surface, it's also more durable than UQW with better hydrophobics. HCD is more similar to the chemistry of M27 and HCLW which makes it an ideal choice. Still have to be careful on dark paints to watch out for smearing, and if that happens with HCD then I would recommend diluting it with distilled water.
WaXmode another great video and a lot product that performs well for the money. Is that a Mosimatic or MTM spray gun on your pressure washer ? Love reading your posts on AG forum. What is your day job you must be something that has details ? Good to see you on PapaSmurf lives and you are on Apex Detail Support group yes ? Thanks
Thanks Doc! This one is the MTM SGS28, really great gun that's holding up well and I use it often. I was close to trying out the Mosmatic with the even smoother swivel, but to be honest this MTM is holding up great and I never get tangled up maneuvering this around the cars during the washes. Love PapaSmurf's and FAB's livestreams! It's just really cool being able to see the crew jump back and forth between the channels and get to hang out on a regular basis. I'm rarely ever on Facebook or Instagram, seems like I have trouble even keeping up with the comments on the youtube channel and I spend a lot more time lurking on the various detailing forums, but I'll definitely look into Brian's support group!
Look into Meguiar’s Hybrid Paint Coating. This is a very beginner friendly 1 year paint coating that should offer the best protection against the sun compared to anything else in the Meguiar’s lineup.
If you want to boost protection a bit more once the paint is clean, that’s when I would use Ultimate Quik Wax. The Detailer I would use for lighter maintenance tasks, if you don’t need to boost protection much you can substitute the Detailer in to use after your washes.
Griot's Ceramic 3-in-1 Wax is a more significant protectant, I'm at 6 months at 2 coats and it's holding up without maintenance. You can use the Griot's as a drying aid, I don't like to use it like this, it's a bit too heavy for that role for me and it can streak on you if overspray starts drying on the paint before you get to wiping it in thoroughly, but some have had good results using it wet. UQW I wouldn't want to use this solo, I would want a stronger base layer protectant on the surface, and use UQW for the maintenance or as the drying aid.
@@WaxMode Dang, thats nice to hear about 3 in 1! I am a spray kind of guy as I live in an apartment and have little time so its generally a rinse/waterless wash and a spray sealant/wax usually. Do you have a recommended product for that kind of situation? Admittingly I run it through a drive thru wash (I got lazy) for fast cleans and the towel dry at the end sometimes, do you think these spray products help reduce the scratching from that? Love your content man! Stay safe and keep it up!
I’ve used the old version of ultimate spray wax heavily as a drying aid with fantastic results, leaving behind a slick hydrophobic surface that easily lasts to the next wash. 👍
Absolutely, I do want to dive in more on drying aids in a separate video, but I've used both Ultimate Quik Detailer and Ultimate Quik Wax as drying aids over the years with good results, and I've used both the new formulas wet on the test panel and dried with the microfibers with good results. Ultimate Quik Wax is definitely affected by water being on the paint, so on bare paint if I've got water on there and I'm using it wet for the first time, I'm not going to see that more impressive water behavior, I've got to use it fully dry first to build up that foundational layer. On top of a healthy wax/sealant/coating, it's going to work fine as a drying aid.
I don’t like the smell. And the gloss is not that impressive. Tacsystem Shinee is much better. I know Meguiars is easier to find and cheaper. I must admit that after a 12 hours cure time the quick detailer did produce good gloss.
I appreciate the feedback Simon! I definitely still need to get my hands on Shinee Wax, Tac System is definitely feeling the impact of Covid, once they get back and running I'll reach back out.
I think these maintenance products make detailing/washes much more enjoyable. We do not see much of these products on RUclips and you go above and beyond to do in-depth test and recommendations for these. Much thanks for that :)
Keith C - Thanks so much my friend! I enjoy shooting the videos to show you guys how these hold up. I agree with you as well, so fun to pull out the maintenance toppers to keep the paint and protection refreshed, that’s why it’s tough to run all these long term pure durability tests!
It’s crazy how you can go to Walmart and pick up the ultimate quick wax and get hydrophobics like that.... super impressive coming from such a simple spray formula. Great video as always man, I watch every video but don’t always comment so just know I’m watching 😎👍🏼
Thanks Jordan I appreciate it! Absolutely, it does have a very nice peak hydrophobic performance out of it, and it's not that crazy heavy of a spray topper as well. Really good stuff, paired with that tropical fruit punch scent and yeah I can use that every week!
I think what u do better than all channels is the ability to vocalize thoughts coherently
Thanks khyoon! I just need to figure out how to edit the videos to push out some better content like the other channels are doing, they do a much better job at that than me!
WaxMode true that. Learn with time. It’s harder to be a better speaker than it is a video editor. You’re ahead of the curb. My names John btw. 😀😀😀
Your videos are awesome. No video editing wizardry would improve the overall message and results. Your camera quality is top notch I can see every pixel of every bead. You line up that test panel perfectly there's not really much room for improvement.
You don't need a blacked out studio like jimbo (love your channel too James!)
Hope you get some graphene and dpc stuff to play with.
You seem to always answer any questions I might in your reviews. Wondered if the QD played well with CQuartz, and as usual, you covered it. Always thorough, always well presented, always professional, and always very well narrated. I appreciate your time and effort making these.
Thanks Jay Cee! What I need to do is grab some of the coatings I have on the shelf, and run some sort term topping tests with them while they're fresh on the paint to see if there's more of an impact. Currently, I've got these coatings around the paint that are fully cured and passed their prime on the paint, and there could be that difference in the impact of trying to top a fresher healthy coating that I need to dive more into testing with different toppers.
But absolutely, last washes of the coatings with the Ultimate Quik Detailer and Ultimate Quik Wax were still very hydrophobic during the wash. I appreciate your feedback!
Thank u for the great review on the updated products. These old standbys are timeless.😎
Cheers 404! Definitely agree with you there!
Great review. Despite being subscribed for ages, I don’t get notifications any more. Even with the bell on.
Thanks! Yeah that's RUclips for you, even channels I'm subscribed to I don't get all the notifications with the bell on, and a lot of the comments on my videos I don't get a notice for.
Funny how everyone is rebranding "new and improved" detailer sprays. Next month it's "new and improved 2.0".
This one has been a long time coming for both of these formulas, these were first released around 2007-2008 so this feels like a good time for a refreshment. I think Meguiar's did a great job at not tweaking them too much so that Ultimate loyalists aren't disappointed, I'm very satisfied.
Now moving forward, this might be something that we may see become a trend in the market with companies trying to one up each other by pushing updated formulas at a much faster rate, possibly at the expense of actual innovation. If it comes to that then this will be addressed.
Yea TW just did Ice line who's next Beadmaker?
If they can get Bead Maker to produce some insane beading by itself without sacrificing any of the other qualities of the current Bead Maker, I'd be all over that! Actually they did just release a limited blue version of Bead Maker over at The Rag Company recently, I was thinking about snagging that up.
WaxMode Do you know what the diff is btwn the reg formula and the blue ?
@@G17-911 Just the color and the fragrance was changed exclusively for TRC.
Awesome video brother. Definitely seeing a great difference in stacking like you said! Haven't gotten to try out the Quick detailer/wax. Love these tests man! Hey, how do you like that Blackfire Paint Prep???? Compared to Prep All? Appreciate you man! Take it easy!
Thanks PapaSmurf! Feels like the golden age of detailing right now, so many good products out there it's getting difficult to narrow down the options into favorites. But I think if I started over from scratch and got rid of everything on the shelf, I don't think I would hesitate to add the Ultimate sprays to the lineup.
Blackfire Paint Prep is working well, doesn't have the heavy solvent smell that Prep-All has but I still prefer Prep-All in the end. Better pricing, smoother application than Blackfire.
@@WaxMode awesome! That's good to know.. shoot I've often had that clean slate thought more than once! Sooo many great products!
Good to know about the Blackfire. I've still got tons of prep all left. Guess I should get to detailing huh?!😄
Found them for 8/10$ at target! Definitely worth it. Ease of use was a 10/10. I’ve been using nothing but TW lately and you realize just how heavy those products feel, and how light these feel. Great review!
Absolutely Gabe, that's one of the things that I really like about these Meguiar's is that lighter feeling they have. If a product is going to be a bit heavier, then I want it to behave like the Polish Angel sprays which are super easy to level out on the paint compared to other heavier products.
Great video as the world of toppers is wide open. I’m always looking for more gloss from a topper and there seem to be unlimited combinations.
I always like to use 2 towels. One to apply, and one to use for buffing.
Yes this is definitely the way to go when you're working across the entire paint, have a dedicated or multiple towels specifically for the final wipe to get a cleaner wipeoff.
Excellent review of these two products love the old ones. Will definitely pick these up as well when the old ones are empty. Can’t agree with you more on the topping of certain products and Meguiars with there fragrances for products are amazing.
Thanks Miller! Yeah if you try these out let me know how you like them. I've got my old batch up in Chicago right now so I couldn't do a direct side by side between the new and the old formulas, it's funny because I probably have 10 bottles of the Ultimate Quik Wax up north just snagging them when they were on clearance for $2 a bottle, and now the new version is out!
WaxMode absolutely will be trying these out and will definitely let you know thanks for the response.
good vid.. my favorite of their scents in the waterless wash
Thanks Barry! Yes I'm a fan of how the Ultimate Waterless Wash smells as well. They're on an absolute fragrance mission over there at Meguiar's and they're smashing it out of the park for me! What I like about the new Ultimate Quik Detailer and Ultimate Quik Wax, is the smell is not overbearing. It's just the right intensity to where I'll never get tired of it.
I don't care so much for gloss, or slickness, so much as hydrophobic. I like to top up after each wash but I've always questioned if I was negatively effecting the hydrophobic properties in the short term or long term. As products degrade performance decrease but a lot of these quick detailers work well at first but don't last all too long,
I've always wondered in the long term if topping with a quick detailer product was a good idea, they degrade quickly (relative to coatings), I've not really been certain that after lets say 3 weeks the degraded quick detailer would negatively effect the hydrophobic qualities vs not having it on the coating at all. I still use because I just like to see that water beading lol
Right on! My preferences can change with the wind, sometimes it's nice to pull out some slickness champions and not get caught up in hydrophobic wizardry. As much as I like hydrophobics, the hot environment here in Florida is best suited for rinseless washing on a regular basis, which really negates the attraction for insane hydrophobic monsters. It's just too hot and sunny most of the time to be washing the paint down with hard water if I was really trying to avoid hard water spotting.
In that case, I would be going with something like Uber Rinseless Wash and topping up with some slickness monsters on the coatings on a regular basis rather than reaching for some more hydrophobic toppers. Even though the coatings can be affected by your toppers in a negative way, the important part is they can still be protecting the paint at a very high level, regardless of how extreme their top layer hydrophobic performance is holding up.
What QD do you use? Sonax BSD on top of a coating is some magical stuff...
I love the old quick detailer , especially the smell . I always thought it smelled like grapes . I’d detail the truck, if it needed it or not, just for that smell. Haa
Right the original smell on the Ultimate Detailer I was also a fan of! I do like the new one better though so I'm not disappointed. Turtle Wax did change up the scent on their updated Ice Spray Wax and I did prefer the smell on the older formula, so sometimes you win some and you lose some.
WaxMode Thanks for all the info. Take care.
I rlly like the D156, the pro version of Quik Wax. Its suitable for every surface.
Had been waiting for this one.
Great job 👍👌
Thank you.
So many players now in the car care market with new ones popping up almost daily the market has become very competitive. Makes it a very exciting time for the enthusiast/consumer.
I am fairly certain the market will soon become oversaturated sending some products down the closeout outlet path. Consumer wise that is a win. I expect some product lines to fail not based on their merit or lack thereof but because average consumer Joe can only afford to have so many products on hand at any given time.
Great points! That's the importance on building up an attractive brand, it's not just about how good the product itself is, you've got to draw me into grabbing for that product as opposed to something else.
Meguiar's is doing a really good job at that for me, the bottles look great, I love the new design, the new Opus style sprayer tops are some of my favorites, and the fragrance is fantastic.
There's slicker products out there than both of these right here, there's products that will give you even more impressive water behavior, but Meguiar's is able to package together both the performance of the chemical, the ease of use, along with the aesthetics of the product much more effectively than many on the market, and that's what makes me grab for it over some other choices.
Should I apply Quik Detailer first to clean then follow that with Quik Wax second?
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A test on the panel, old version Vs new version would have been interesting !, water beading, sheeting , resistance ...
This version seems excellent to me for coating maintenance!
Nico ultimate focus RS2 - Yeah I had the old stock of the previous formula’s back up in Chicago or I would have done a side by side comparison. I’m definitely loving the improved formulas! I tried the Ultimate Quik Detailer on top of the crazy hydrophobic Polish Angel High Gloss and Rapidwaxx recently and it was able to maintain perfect hydrophobic performance.
@@WaxMode great 👍
Yet again another great video. A good shootout would be Ultimate Quick Wax vs. Sonax High Speed Wax. I love Megs but I think Sonax would win.
I've got my brother doing a lot of recon work with High Speed Wax on his new truck. He does like it but absolutely has to use it wet to avoid some streaking. It's been a while since I pulled High Speed Wax out, could definitely be time to do so!
seems like they use the best spray nozzles at a retail level too
Love these sprayers. I don't think the other sprayers are bad, there's just something about the way these Opus sprayers atomize on the paint that is more satisfying to me. They hold up really well also, I don't think I've ever had one of these go bad and break on me.
Great video! Exactly what I was looking for
Thanks Gabe!
Thanks for video !
Interesting updated products.
Great demonstration, WaxMode. "Quik" question....how long did you wait before applying the second coat of Ultimate Quik Wax?
I believe it was 4 hours for this video. I’ve done a few 24 hour tests afterwards and also seen a stack effect with UQW. Really cool stuff
Plz Make A Video On 3m Paste Wax 39526
Thanks In Advance
From India
Seriously, megs and sonax should make air freshners like the little trees. I'd love for my interior to smell like BSD all the time!!
Absolutely! I need one for the CarPro Eraser scent too, in fact I think CarPro came out with one for that. I just checked now it's called the SkysBlue Car Perfume, I might have to snag that one up! But yes, BSD does has that fantastic scent which is also one of my favorites. Delicious!
WaxMode Oooh! I’ve never smelled eraser, only gyeon prep and pearl nano’s decon. What does eraser smell like? I might try SkysBlue if it sounds good...
@@groundcontrol6876 Eraser smells really similar, if not identical to Gyeon Prep. In the world of paint preps it doesn't get much better than how those smell. Ethos Detox does smell pretty good as well.
@@WaxMode Thanks for the tip, I'd never heard about em, I'll definitely try skysblue in the future.
Great review and great comparison info.
Xoxo from Puerto Rico 👍🇵🇷
Thanks so much Humberto!
Great video man! I have been looking for a video that combines the hybrid ceramic wax with quik detailer/wax to see if it still kept hydrophobic properties! Definitely getting a sub from me!
great video tahnk you very much man. i watch a lot of your videos but i dont always comment
but i like and subscribed already lol
mujjuman - Thanks mujjuman! Glad you are enjoying the videos, definitely much more to come.
Great video category. If you had to pick ONE which would it be, ceramic detailer or ultimate?
My pick would be the Hybrid Ceramic Detailer. Since I'm working with a lot of paint coatings, it's definitely the one out of the bunch that has the best ability to refresh the hydrophobic potential of those paint coatings.
great review as always Thank You.
MAXIMILAN2QAT - Thanks my friend! This one was definitely a fun video to shoot
Great video buddy
Thanks ONR! Hope you're holding up well!
@@WaxMode yup buddy doing great tfs
great content as always!
Thanks my friend!
Starting to sheet with just water on one side
Can anyone suggest a good wax I can spread on my nude body and slide around like a seal?
TAC Shinee spray wax. It doesn't last long, but the wet gloss is *insane* !!
carzilla.ca/products/tacsystem-shinee-wax-spray-detailer-500ml
Keith Olsen yeah, that’s on my short list. I like that it’s a spray so I can really get it between my crack and be super glossy.
Shinee Wax I definitely need to get my hands on, I know Jon at Forensic Detailing and Brian at Apex Detail have gotten some fantastic gloss number jumps using Shinee Wax on their test panels. Tac System is still not taking new orders due to Covid here in the states so I might reach out to Carzilla and see what kind of shipping costs would be from Canada over to me. But that is the hot product in terms of gloss right now.
My gloss quest is still ongoing. My main test panel at the peak abrasive limit is just not seeing any significant improvement in measurable gloss out of most products, Poorboy's World Black Hole Glaze was able to marginally improve gloss above the abrasive numbers with Perfect Finish after washing the glaze, but I still need to run a lot more tests with this and it's still less than 1 gloss unit difference. Other cars that I work on and detail I just don't have the daily access to really be able to observe and quantify the gloss effectively.
I've been really satisfied with the gloss range of most products I've worked with over the years given the abrasive prep beforehand, but if I happen to pick up a nice car with some deeper and darker paint, I will be on the hunt for the gloss unicorn to further the quest.
Would you choose Hybrid Ceramic Detailer and/or Wax over Ultimate Quik Detailer or Wax?
That is a great question, and I REALLY like the Hybrid Ceramic Detailer. It is a bit heavier than the Ultimate Quik Detailer though, so if you're touching up spots or streaking or smears, Ultimate Quik Detailer is the better clean up product for me. But as far as maintaining the coatings' extreme hydrophobic performance, the Hybrid Ceramic Detailer would be my optimal choice especially if those waxes/sealants/coatings have really started to diminished and I want to jump that water behavior back up a significant amount above what you could achieve with Ultimate Quik Wax. HCD is the most hydrophobic of the bunch with one coat, it's a little more expensive and I think UQW is a great balance of performance priced underneath HCD.
If I could have one it would be Hybrid Ceramic Detailer, I should have another video showcasing this one in more detail in the future.
@@WaxMode As usual, you nailed it. Great way of describing the differences. They are truly very different products with different nuances/strengths/weaknesses.
Thanks! Looking forward to it.
Nice review 👍
Hey I just wanted to know your opinion of polish angel rapidwaxx. What's the gloss and durability like?
Cheers dude
James - Expect a video soon on Rapidwaxx, it’s definitely the one to go with first for guys looking to dip into the Polish Angel lineup, really similar to High Gloss and Cosmic Spritz in short term performance.
Have you compared the new version of ultimate wax( sealant) to the original version. Curious if it's still good or they changed it for the worse.
Can I just use nu finish instead of wax? that stuff is good. I use these to remove bird crap
WaxMode and Viewers, Since I discovered Optimum No Rinse (ONR), a quick detailer is no longer necessary in my arsenal. As you know, ONR is also available with wax or no wax. It can be used as a clay lube as well. ONR is very reasonably priced as well. I can wash about 600 cars for about $20.00. ONR is a Game Changer!
Right on Hartland, once you get into rinseless and waterless wash concentrates, you gain incredible value out of being able to dilute them into clay lubricants and spray detailers. I still really like the Wolfgang Uber Rinseless Wash the best, I've also had good results out of the Blackfire Wet Diamond Waterless Wash concentrate and Pinnacle Liquid Crystal Waterless Wash concentrate. It's been a while since I pulled ONR out for a rinseless wash since I picked up Uber Rinseless about 4-5 years ago, but ONR was still great stuff too.
ONR works great makes it super shiny but doesnt mask micro swirls, from 5 feet away you cant tell a difference ultimate spray wax over it really enhances the shine from 3 feet or less
If you had to choose Ultimate Quik wax or Sonax Brillant shine detailer. What's your pick
Brilliant Shine Detailer, give me the beads!
Whats the best wax application pads you've found? There's a million and one different yellow ones alone.
Hey bro can you make a video testing out Meguiars M799 Ceramic Bead Booster
Good video. Is there any chemical or scientific explanation as to why some products like the QD seem to allow the base layer to shine through when standalone this is a 5/10 beader?
Never quite managed to wrap my head around this lol!
I'm sure there are some good explanations down the rabbit hole with some guys that have a chemistry background, but nothing off the top of my head. Just seems like the topper is piggybacking on the chemistry of the base protectant in some instances.
Ultimate Quik Detailer is relatively lighter, and those lighter forms of detailers are going to be much less likely to want to mask over the base protectant and reduce performance. After this video I was working with different toppers over the hydrophobic Polish Angel products, and the Hybrid Solutions Ceramic 3-in-1 Detailer which is quite heavy by itself, that will reduce Rapidwaxx's hydrophobic behavior pretty noticeably, whereas Ultimate Quik Detailer leaves it unaffected with great hydrophobics after the rinse.
I definitely need to dive further down the chemistry rabbit hole.
Great product for great price. i think better than over price Adams polish products
Do you have any plans on comparing the new updated verison of ultimate liquid wax to the old formula?
I definitely want to get my hands on the new paste wax for sure to try out against the older one, I saw them on the shelf recently on the store so they’re available. The liquid wax I’m not sure if I’ll go that route, it depends on if I start stacking up on test panel hoods. Also saw the new Paint Coating kit on the shelf for around $60 so eventually I’ll try that one out too.
Still need to move the majority of my gear and products up to the new location, that will be happening next month and then I can start steamrolling on new testing.
For how long does the quick wax lasts? Do I need to apply ceramic detailer after this wax, something like hybrid ceramic spray or Rainx? Or not needed?
Ultimate Quik Wax (UQW) is designed for maintenance, I would not recommend using this as your main protectant. Durability is going to vary and is largely dependent on how healthy the base paint or protection is before applying something on top, and UQW you could see anywhere as little as a week of durability, to as long as over a month. But since this is designed strictly for maintenance, then durability is not much of a factor because you can use this regularly after your washes and reserve your main protection to be applied much less often.
So I would choose something like Ultimate Paste Liquid Wax as my main protection, reapply that after every 2-5 months, but then preserve it using Ultimate Quik Wax after my regular washes, and I can use UQW as often as I'd like. If I'm using something like Hybrid Ceramic Wax as my main protection, then I would maintain this with Hybrid Ceramic Detailer instead of UQW, because the chemistry is more similar to one another. You can mix and match protectants and toppers but I would generally recommend staying within the same lineup in the brand, Hybrid Ceramic Detailer is heavier than UQW and will be better at maintaining the more hydrophobic properties of Hybrid Ceramic Wax compared to UQW, although either should still work well.
@@WaxMode Thanks for your time and your valuable feedback. I like your idea of using a wax (to maintain paint) and topping with a ceramic detailer to maintain the wax and protect the paint. U mentioned hybrid as a ceramic detailer, I actually use Rainx, but I don't think Rainx is as a good as hybrid. Have seen reviews saying the only different is in longitivity. Hybrid lasts for 6 months, Rainx lasts for 1-2 months. Have you tried Rainx? I also think the added layer by Hybrid ceramic detailer is thicker than the one by Rainx, diff is few more micrometers. Finally do u think it's really good idea to use wax after applying the ceramic detailer? What is the point if ceramic detailers are heavier? Also I heard some types of waxes (like carnauba wax) can remove the ceramic coating! Please be patient with me as I'm little bit confused! A lot of such products in the market and you r not sure who should be applied after who and if adding one can negatively affect the other. My thinking was usually that ceramic detailers should be the final layer but u r saying u can use waxes after every wash to maintain the hybrid ceramic coating. I don't think all waxes can be used after applying the ceramic spray coating/detailer by Hybrid or Rainx. I would be v careful on what type of wax to apply and yes mixing brands is so annoying. I was interested in Mafra products and metal car care product but I would think this should be used before a ceramic detailer is applied. Also do car wash shampoos damage the layer applied by ceramic detailers???
How do you think these compare to the old formula? I’ve had excellent results from the previous formula but it doesn’t look like meguiars took the same path as turtle wax for the formula update with increase chemica resistance, though it looks like it’s a bit more hydrophobic?
They're definitely still similar to the older formulas, this Ultimate Quik Detailer does feel a bit slicker to me, and Ultimate Quik Wax does look like it has a jump in hydrophobic performance compared to the old one. Still just as easy to work with.
I think in order for Meguiar's to add in some of the properties to cause the products to be more chemically resistant, that would completely change up the way these products feel in terms of how heavy they are, how much wiping it takes to level them down, and how much hydrophobic performance that you can get. Usually the spray products that do excel in chemical resistance, I don't see them having quite the hydrophobic potential or lighter feeling as you apply them to the paint that Ultimate Quik Wax has.
Better for Meguiar's if they want to come out with something that packs a lot of chemical resistance to come out with a completely new and separate product for that role, I personally would not be willing to give up the good features of Ultimate Quik Wax in favor of better chemical resistance.
So would you recommend using meguiars ultimate quick wax/synthetic x-press spray wax to dry a car that has meguiars m27 or meguiars hybrid liquid wax?
You could, but I would rather use Hybrid Ceramic Detailer (HCD) as the drying aid on both M27 and Hybrid Ceramic Liquid Wax. HCD is a little heavier than Ultimate Quik Wax or D156, but still very usable on a wet surface, it's also more durable than UQW with better hydrophobics. HCD is more similar to the chemistry of M27 and HCLW which makes it an ideal choice. Still have to be careful on dark paints to watch out for smearing, and if that happens with HCD then I would recommend diluting it with distilled water.
WaXmode another great video and a lot product that performs well for the money. Is that a Mosimatic or MTM spray gun on your pressure washer ? Love reading your posts on AG forum. What is your day job you must be something that has details ? Good to see you on PapaSmurf lives and you are on Apex Detail Support group yes ? Thanks
Thanks Doc! This one is the MTM SGS28, really great gun that's holding up well and I use it often. I was close to trying out the Mosmatic with the even smoother swivel, but to be honest this MTM is holding up great and I never get tangled up maneuvering this around the cars during the washes.
Love PapaSmurf's and FAB's livestreams! It's just really cool being able to see the crew jump back and forth between the channels and get to hang out on a regular basis. I'm rarely ever on Facebook or Instagram, seems like I have trouble even keeping up with the comments on the youtube channel and I spend a lot more time lurking on the various detailing forums, but I'll definitely look into Brian's support group!
hey there....which offer the best protection for the sun?????
Look into Meguiar’s Hybrid Paint Coating. This is a very beginner friendly 1 year paint coating that should offer the best protection against the sun compared to anything else in the Meguiar’s lineup.
@@WaxMode thanks!!!
Kann ich dieses Produkt auf Keramikfliesen verwenden?
Do you recommend first use the quick detailer and next use quick wax ?
If you want to boost protection a bit more once the paint is clean, that’s when I would use Ultimate Quik Wax. The Detailer I would use for lighter maintenance tasks, if you don’t need to boost protection much you can substitute the Detailer in to use after your washes.
How do you feel about the UQW vs the Griots 3 in 1 as a drying aid and the only protection on a vehicle?
Griot's Ceramic 3-in-1 Wax is a more significant protectant, I'm at 6 months at 2 coats and it's holding up without maintenance. You can use the Griot's as a drying aid, I don't like to use it like this, it's a bit too heavy for that role for me and it can streak on you if overspray starts drying on the paint before you get to wiping it in thoroughly, but some have had good results using it wet. UQW I wouldn't want to use this solo, I would want a stronger base layer protectant on the surface, and use UQW for the maintenance or as the drying aid.
@@WaxMode Dang, thats nice to hear about 3 in 1! I am a spray kind of guy as I live in an apartment and have little time so its generally a rinse/waterless wash and a spray sealant/wax usually. Do you have a recommended product for that kind of situation? Admittingly I run it through a drive thru wash (I got lazy) for fast cleans and the towel dry at the end sometimes, do you think these spray products help reduce the scratching from that?
Love your content man! Stay safe and keep it up!
So could we use these as a drying aid?
I’ve used the old version of ultimate spray wax heavily as a drying aid with fantastic results, leaving behind a slick hydrophobic surface that easily lasts to the next wash. 👍
Absolutely, I do want to dive in more on drying aids in a separate video, but I've used both Ultimate Quik Detailer and Ultimate Quik Wax as drying aids over the years with good results, and I've used both the new formulas wet on the test panel and dried with the microfibers with good results.
Ultimate Quik Wax is definitely affected by water being on the paint, so on bare paint if I've got water on there and I'm using it wet for the first time, I'm not going to see that more impressive water behavior, I've got to use it fully dry first to build up that foundational layer. On top of a healthy wax/sealant/coating, it's going to work fine as a drying aid.
The wax. Always.
Dangit, I just purchased a big bottle of the old formula!
Not to worry, old formula is still a great product for sure!
I don’t like the smell. And the gloss is not that impressive. Tacsystem Shinee is much better. I know Meguiars is easier to find and cheaper. I must admit that after a 12 hours cure time the quick detailer did produce good gloss.
I appreciate the feedback Simon! I definitely still need to get my hands on Shinee Wax, Tac System is definitely feeling the impact of Covid, once they get back and running I'll reach back out.
WaxMode maybe you tested a new formula. There is no yellow on my ultimate detailer bottle
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Humberto for the win!