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Great Wet/Dry/Wet Sounds On A Sensible Budget - That Pedal Show
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- Опубликовано: 4 авг 2024
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Life too short for long RUclips videos? Please see the ‘Interesting bits and go-to sections’ information below.
For our last show in That (Old) Pedal Shed (8 June 2018), we went nuts on a mega wet/dry/wet rig comprising all manner of unobtanium that came to a whopping £30k… or thereabouts. You can watch it here • Awesome Wet/Dry/Wet: 3...
We had an overwhelming response to that video, and among the chorus of ‘oh my goodness it sounds amazing’ came a cry of ‘how the bejeeesus do we do that on a more mortal budget?’
Thus, Daniel and I got to work straight away in the That (New) Pedal Shed setting up a similarly inspried rig but with much more ‘normal’ stuff. Please note that we didn’t say ‘low budget’ so this isn’t about doing it as cheaply as possible. It’s about a ‘sensible’ budget using easily available, quality amps and pedals. It's still a pretty penny if you were to just go out and buy it all, but hopefully you have at least some of these things - or similar - at your disposal already!
Please enjoy the episode…
Pedals in this episode…
• TheGigRig Three2One
www.thegigrig.com/three2one
• D’Addario Pedal Tuner
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2tIN4lD
USA: bit.ly/3IRrhPE
Australia: bit.ly/2tfHqHN
• RYRA Tri-Pi Muff Fuzz
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2JUwECc
Australia: bit.ly/2JCyY1n
• Keeley D&M Drive
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2oTblU1
USA: bit.ly/3E6wsYN
Australia: bit.ly/2pUDUAE
• ProAnalog Devices Manticore
www.proanalogdevices.com
• Analog Man Bad Bob Boost
www.analogman.com
• Longamp Roxanne
/ longamp
• Strymon TimeLine
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2fzulGD
USA: imp.i114863.net/nM4dX
Australia: bit.ly/2pSEFKm
• Dawner Prince Boonar
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2lXzfON
• Chase Bliss Audio Gravitas Analog Tremolo
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2JOlizN
USA: bit.ly/3dR0TY6
Australia: bit.ly/2po5iru
• Dunlop EP-103 Echoplex
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2cQsuNc
USA: bit.ly/3GI16JE
• TheGigRig Humdinger
www.thegigrig.com/humdinger
• TheGigRig G2
www.thegigrig.com/g2
Why do we have preferred retailer links? Find out here: www.thatpedalshow.com/partners
Interesting bits and go-to sections…
- Intro playing: 0:00
- The last ‘old’ show on wet/dry/wet: 1:26
- Wet/Dry or Wet/Dry/Wet, and what is ‘wet’ anyway? 3:15
- Today’s amps: 4:30
- Vox AC15C1: 4:44
- Fender Hot Rod Deluxe III: 5:13
- Fender Blues Junior III: 6:58
- Which amp is wet, which is dry and why? 8:08
- Blues Jr with the Keeley D&M Drive and Tele: 9:25
- …and Strat: 10:30
- Chalk and day, night and cheese: 13:20
- Dry amp… then all three: 13:50
- …and the D&M Drive: 15:15
- Hot Rod Deluxe and the D&M Drive: 15:58
- …and the Vox: 16:45
- But Dan doesn’t like the Top Boost channel? 17:15
- Normal and Top Boost channels compared: 18:10
- What about using a digital amp too - latency? 21:15
- The signal path: 22:15
- Just the outside/wet amps: 24:18
- Signal splits to the amps? 25:50
- Outside/wet amps only, with delays on: 26:25
- …and then with all amps on: 28:15
- Boonar, tremolo, Vox, left side: 31:15
- …and with the other two amps added: 31:54
- Wet amps only, 100 per cent wet/kill dry: 36:45
- …and with the dry amp added: 37:45
- What if your delay won’t do 100 per cent wet/kill dry? 39:30
- Wet/Dry/Wet a la D’n’M (no kill dry): 44:05
- …compared with Wet/Dry/Wet with kill-dry in the wet amps: 45:50
- And what about the Dawner Prince Boonar? 48:14
- And the Echoplex? 50:54
- Cost implications: how much have we ‘saved?’ 55:00
- Dan plays us out: 58:55
Guitars in this episode:
Fender Custom Shop 1963 Telecaster - watch Dan’s video at bit.ly/2dlZJ6K
Fender American Vintage ’62 Stratocaster - watch Mick’s video at bit.ly/2cQv3yT
Amps in this episode
Fender Blues Junior III (no longer made - check out the version IV)
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2O80417
USA: imp.i114863.net/vMDdj
Vox AC15 Custom with Celestion Greenback speaker
UK & Europe: bit.ly/36BSfrw
USA That Pedal Shop: bit.ly/3E0H1Qs
Fender Hot Rod Deluxe III (no longer made - check out the version IV)
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2KBwMWc
USA: imp.i114863.net/NLGa2
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Every episode I start with and “ugh! Another hour video. I don’t have time to watch all this.” Feeling. Then it’s over and and I think “Wait, that was an hour? I was jus getting into this!”.
So rare to get deep dive info on a topic in you tube. Thanks guys, for sticking with the format!
That’s awesome Christian, thank you!
Sounds and looks so darn good! Congrats guys!
Mary! Can I say I love you?
"Sounds and looks so darn good"
Mary, you just set yourself up for a bunch of blokey inappropriateness.
But you do, hey...:p
All righty then, you know a fellow who sells Humdingers, when's the video coming out?
Sounds MEGA! Thanks very much for all the hard work and the quality. It Looks & sounds AMAZING. Big hug from The Argentina!
The Pedalladium! Great show again guys, it’s good to see you’re enjoying it.
You gentlemen are doing the Lord’s work.
It's so nice watching musicians who are emotionally moved by the sound. Not everyone has that. Great work, as usual.
Welcome to That Pedal Palace. Great new space guys. And , as always, great tones and info. Thanks for all you do.
Schwangra-La. From far earlier down the comments. Fantastic!
Love this!
I like this sooooooo much.
Your show has produced among the most inspiring sounds ever recorded, not just among internet videos, but all recorded music. Period. Thank you so much for doing what you do!
Wow! High praise indeed. Thank you sir!
That tone in the into. Damn! I could spend hours and hours on that rig. I vote you keep it as that Pedal Show. But, you've definitely inspired me to build a rig like this.
Because of you guys I've built up my pedalboard to where it's wet/dry capable, and the first time I did it with a deluxe reverb and an old Supro Spectator, with the dual delay on my timeline and the tremolo on one amp only. I sat between the two amps while my brother in law played, and literally cried. It was unlike anything I've ever heard before. My whole board has been reworked to let me do that at any time, though I have yet to do it in a gig setting. Really love the show guys. Yall are my heros.
Tone from today was totally sick guys!, i've had heard that tone my mind/head a thousand times! love it!. You guys are the best! cheers!
You F'in' Guys!!!
After the last show I HAD to build this rig. Turns out I recently acquired the tools to do so. With an ABY switch and a strymon flint, i set up 2 little practice amps with my bassman. Instant guitar nirvana. Of course I've set this all up while the missus is out of town, now seeing if she can extend her trip. HA!
This channel is like a dream factory for guitar players, great ideas rolling out week after week. Please never stop.
Cheers OB - glad you’re finding some inspiration in here. Thanks for watching!
The new place looks AWESOME!!
It's all about the inspiration ... which comes from many sources. I'm so grateful my son, Ian, referred me to a show that incorporates information with inspiration to try new things. My guitar sound continues to evolve and I like it better than ever. Excellent work, guys. Thank you!
Awesome, thanks Scot. And welcome! Hello Ian too - thanks for watching!
Sounds amazing! Love the pedal palace! @54.25 I think Mick was killing it! Cheers guys thanks! Seriously thank you for the knowledge drop!
DAN YOU'RE THE MAN!
YES!!! It’s Friday with TPS!!!!!!
BOYS! Why have I never done this before?!?!?! I have been watching you guys for years and playing guitar for about 20. Well I just never thought of doing a wet/dry or even a wet/dry/wet setup! Well I can say it has changed my life and I absolutely love it so much! Thank you for bringing this knowledge to us. It might have seemed obvious to some but I just never thought of it.
Also what I love about your show is that you are all about finding your own tone and this video is a big step towards making my own sound. I mean now I have a three amp wet/dry/wet setup - Hiwatt on the left, Hot Rod deluxe in the middle and Orange on the right playing a Tele and an ESP LTD Eclipse.
I just love that with the help of your show I’m constantly expanding and building on my sound and it’s so fun and inspiring. Thank you so much for all your hard work!
Man that tone with the strat at 32:40 just SINGS and when you kick in the Bad Bob it SCREAMS great playing as always Mick!
Hate to comment again, this has nothing to do with guitar, but the lighting and focus is so amazing. There are side shots and they seem so personal. Second time through and the camera work is just crazy good. Cheers guys!!
First job when starting to watch a new TPS, is pressing the like button 😊
Fortunately, I have been re-watching episodes that I watched as a RUclips noob and correcting the oversights.
Great tones and thanks again for bringing a way for the masses to get a similar sound
The Pedal Grotto looks and sounds amazing! Thanks for all your hard work putting it together and sharing it with us.
31:52 when the tremolo hit the AC15 only I got so happy... Tremolo is (as always) the secret sauce...
Mick - The FAT button on the Blues Junior adds a cathode bypass capacitor to the second 12AX7 gain stage. A cathode bypass capacitor will increase gain, lower output impedance, and increase harmonic content in a very pronounced way.
Hello Kley, is the cathode bypass capacitor like a split cathode / shared cathode switch on some Marshall circuits? Or is it Marshally?
Thanks :)
Don't forget the impact of the flux capacitor driving the DMC at 88mph
@@squidwardjtentacles home child, one too many sniffs of the barmaids apron.
I want to Thank you 2 lads because your show has made me fall in love with guitars and amps and pedals again!!!! The first time I REALLY wanted to play guitar was in 1983, I heard Texas Flood on the radio for the first time and since then I have never been without a guitar in my possession. Keep up the GREAT videos and give me a shoutout! I'm Don from Texas!!!
Congratulations on the new Pedal command center!! I love the show and look forward to watching many many more shows from their. I love the long shows and all the tangents. Cheers!
Salutations from North Carolina! I've decided that I'm never watching your show without headphones again. Great show guys!
HatsForRain . hey man, Rockingham, NC here. These guys are awesome right?
If you can throw them up one stereo speakers even better :).
Chris They really are! They're part of my Friday morning ritual.
Decent speakers can be just as good, decent meaning “not in a smartphone or a laptop.”
Is it just me or does Dan’s tele look even more gorgeous with the new background?
I think it sounds "punchier" in that room as well
It sounds more like the record now. 👍
Do you think plated or raw brass saddles sound better. ???
Great ep. guys! Clear explanations, cool licks, and nice editing at the end, going from Dans guitar singing to the outro tune, loved it : )
Dan - thank you so much for making that diagram! It completely solved my wet/dry issue and now my rig sounds AWESOME.
Hooray!
I'm not able to watch now, but seeing an episode with gear I actually own is always especially exciting.
Gents: I didn't get a chance to post last week, but CONGRATULATIONS on the excellent new space! May it serve as your gear-batcave for years to come. :) However! I am sorry to say, but no TPS set can be complete without a prominent display of the original EHX Electric Mistress! Come on Dan! :D :P
Joe Satchton Gear Batcave is a cracking shout for this places name!
+Cameron Tyson: Why, thank you sir! :)
Dan, your technique is amazing!!1..a pleasure as always to listen to you play!
I love the "ambience"/dryness of the new place. Both videos have sounded phenomenal. Congratulations :)
"D&M SHOW"
Oooh, nice. Working from home means that I can listen to TPS on studio monitors instead of crappy headphones!
After the last show, I set up wet/dry/wet with two Blackstar HT40’s outside, and an HT20 inside (all clean channel).
Signal path was guitar -> Midi Deja Vibe -> Keeley Tone Workstation -> D&M Drive -> Angry Charlie -> Mini-Vent II, split -> “dry” into the HT20, “wet” into a TC X4 Delay, stereo out into -> TC Hall of Fame, stereo out to the 2 HT-40’s.
Man what a sound! With the HT40’s set to the Blackface-style clean and the HT20 set clean, but on the edge of breakup. No phase issues at all that I could discern.
It was absolutely the most unproductive band rehearsal we’ve ever had - I was too busy listening to my own awesomeness to worry about playing the songs correctly, haha!
Cheers guys, great topic as always!
Mike Heugel hello.
Can I ask what kind of a splitter you got?
What if you only use 2 amps (wet/dry), do you have any problems with phasing with the splitter you use?
Thanks.
yoctanuri Hello,
I don’t have a splitter - I’m actually splitting the signal with 2 different stereo-out pedals. The fact that I don’t have phase issues is actually a miracle.
First split is from the Mini Vent II, left output goes to the dry amp in the middle, right output goes into a TC X4 delay. Second split is out of the X4, which gets split into a stereo out, through the Hall of Fame (stereo in-stereo out), then out to wet amp left and wet amp right.
I’ve got rehearsal tomorrow, so I’ll get a picture to show the setup.
Thank you for everything you guys do, it’s awesome!
I agree it sounds great, I own a hotrod Deluxe USA model and love that amp but the other rig was just amazingly beautiful and inspiring. Thanks guys. Your awesome and keep the videos coming!
Pedal Cave. Surely. The Batman and Robin fighting bad tone KAPOW💥
moist/dry/moist?
ashasha3 lol
Wet/dry/damp
👍🎸👍 lots of Gilmouresque tones today. Lovely!
Bangin' tones! Good to hear you in the new digs, guys!
When you guys were talking about guys like Larry Carlton putting the 100% wet through studio monitors, I wanted to mention that on tour last year, John Mayer had an additional mic in front of one of the amps, which was fed into a rack mic preamp, then into the wet effects (or maybe only his Bricasti M7 reverbs), and then that 100% wet signal coming out of a pair of ridiculously expensive studio monitors, which were not mic'ed to the PA. So I'm guessing the studio monitors were just for the stage sound for reverb? I really wonder what that would sound like in person, ie not coming out of the FOH. Hmm. I'm sensing another W/D/W video using studio monitors!
Hey Josh! Thanks for the info! I saw that tour, too, but must have been a bit further back in the house than you. I thought those looked like monitors and not speaker cabs, but I was too far away to figure out what they were doing exactly. I'm wondering if you also noticed a very slow phase-type thing that was oscillating back-and-forth across the stereo field on some of his lead tones? Some, not all. Especially the opening obligato solo at the beginning of "Belief" to open the show. The closest I've been able to come to duplicating it is a very slow roto-vibe sound from my Strymon Mobius. Cheers!
I'm in the process of thinking up a wet/dry stereo rig with different pedals in each of the two amps. I have an Orange 2x12 combo which I run into a UK made Ashdown 4x12 cab with Celestion V30s, thinking about putting a 150w Celestion Redback and a Celestion G12T-75 in the Orange, not sure yet. For my second amp, I'm waiting on Ground FX's first amp, it's based on the Sunn Spectrum, it has a pair of KT88s. I want to buy a 6x12 for it from Zilla Cabs with six Celestion G12T-75s, so, a 12x12 wet/dry stereo rig. As for effects, that's a chapter in itself, hehe.
That's one hella rig. Think I put my back out just reading about it...
Technically, a wet/ dry rig is not a stereo rig, which is basically one in which both amps receive the true stereo FX signal as well as the dry.
MEGA sound improvement!! Congratulations guys!
After having watched you guys for years, this is my first public comment. this show is such a great resource for any level of player. As a professional, I'm about ready to cut you guys a check for the amount of things I've taken from this show and used to make money on gigs. But the BEST part about watching, is seeing how both of you have improved as players. You're both playing better than we've ever heard you. Well done, fellas. Cheers from Vegas.
Thanks Matt. That’s very kind of you to say. I think we’ve both woken up a bit and are over the playing a little more. Dan definitely is and he’s putting some time too. For me, I have no idea how to learn or practise - nobody has unlocked in a way I can comprehend yet. But my playing improves when I have a project on the go where I have to play loud and learn new stuff. Currently in a hole with it, so playing bad again. I need some gigs!
Bastards! I left my amp out in the rain for the wet sound.
My wife is also saying that I've pressed the fat button too...
did you leave it out in the rain with the cake?
I'm a simple person; when I see a new TPS video, I drop everything I'm doing and watch.
Alfalfa Male Only slightly more sophisticated I open a beer can in between dropping everything and watching TPS
Another informative and inspiring video!
Loved the "kill-dry" thing!
Congrats on the move guys! Anytime I have the luxury of seeing stuff get accomplished, yet not actually doing all the work myself, it's even better ; ) Glad you're now firmly ensconced in Pedal Palace, or Pedal Manor, or whatever name befits the new digs - it looks great! Looking forward to lots of upcoming guitar geekery.
By the way Mick - wish you still had time for the Paradiso videos...high end guitars and Mick Taylor commentary always made for a better day. Glad all is going well guys!
Boss katana 50 is great for w/d/w setups on a budget, as a wet combo. 50 watts, 12 inch speaker and a bunch of cool fx included
+1 on that. Mick here.
Definitely. It's like taking a JC-40/120 and sticking a bunch of pedals in front of it, but in a simple form factor and at a very reasonable price.
I have a katana 100, I am thinking of getting a vox ac15 to have it as the main dry amp and use the katana with the effects
Cheapest way I’ve found of doing it is to have a great tube amp as you dry, and two Roland Cubes as your wets. The benefit of this set up is you can buy Cubes in different wattages to suit your requirements, they have a great clean sound, plus you don’t have to re-tube them as buying tubes for three amps becomes an expensive proposition.
Andre Rodin I even heard Dave Friedman from Friedman amps suggest maybe using a small katana amp as “wet” amp in a simple wet dry setup ...mainly because you don’t need a ton of power for the wet effect only amp and solid state is fine.
How about that pedal show??😜
Barrel of laughs. More than a peck, at least.
Dan, every time you play the blues junior, a huge smile comes on your face :) great video!!
sound is pleasantly boosted from the first new shed episode! you guys are murdering it
That Pedal Bordello!
Now I like that A LOT. Mick here. :0)
That look mick gave dan when he started playing bryan adams....18:00
Now THIS is why I watch EVERY TPS show. Even the ones that I am not that interested in. I will jump to the chase.
Today's show, 6-22-18. Just by seeing and hearing what you two can do when you do try something different, well ...that makes ME want to try something different. Maybe even something I have tried before, but with a new twist. Now WET/DRY with KILL DRYS on? I NEVER would have even thought of that.
Sounded amazing. Who would have thought that the 3 amps were what they were. I loathed my HRD btw.
If only I had G2. Because every change for me requires a new cord path and rerouting.
But I got something today from the show today that really spoke to me. THIS is the kind of show that certainly I would like to see more of. Exploring what you can do with multiple amps by the placement and operation of the pedals.
Duh...that's what you already are doing anyway, for the most part.
Fab show today.
Cheers From NM, USA
(I am going to buy a T-shirt or two right now....big spender huh...)
Call it the Pedal Shedal.
Or the Stomp Box.
Or the Guitar Hangar.
Mark McQuillan I like the stomp box.
Next time you do this could you please, please, pretty please use a P90's loaded guitar and a humbucker loaded guitar. Just for me and anyone else.
Right on Nigel, and a Gretsch would be nice too, any thing with Filertron or Broadtron pickups. Pretty please with sugar on top :-)
Congrats guys. Looks and sounds great!
FWIW... Mick, I’m sure the sound of the new space is giving you a bit of a fit, but I’ve watched you for years, and you really excel with a couple of pedals and a single amp. The stuff from a couple of weeks ago was awesome, but I really think you need to get your OG setup... Strat, TS, Super... and hear that room in a simple setting. Break into it slow, this setup seemed super over the top for you. This sound is Dan’s wheelhouse. This is why I love the show, 2 different guys attacking the same sound in each owns personal way, see what they can get out of it and how different it sounds for each player. Love the show, you guys are the absolute best.
You’ll find next week’s show super interesting Eric... thanks for the feedback as always!
That Pedal Studio?
That Pedal Sonicallysuperiorrecordingspace?
21:38 oh damn that was my goal. I guess you can't mix torpedo and mic :(
Gee I love your shows guys! Real pleasure watching it - and as a bonus, you doing my favourite setup. Wet/dry/wet...! I have cheaper version on the sides ( Vox AC 30 VR) but DSL100 Marshall in the centre (dry) and I love it! I am still discovering the best sound out of it but hey - we never stop learning :-)
Keep up great work - learning of you a lot
Thank you !!! 🎵👍
I run a 50w plexi with an ac15 (through the ox amp top box which lets me play with different cab types with ease) and I’m having sooo much fun. The combinations are endless and the idea of routing delay, tremolo and reverb only into the high headroom plexi (with a 4x12 greenback cab) and using ox’s room miking on the flat monitor is entirely thanks to watching your channel... so many thanks and keep it up! Btw, the ox can keep up with the live cab without getting into weird phasing issues due to latency.
I run a similar setup using an ox box as well. I too have not had any issues with the ox causing any latency or phasing issues..
Pedals Advocate
Heavy Pedal
Pedal Tones
The Pedal Vessel
The Effects Set
Love & Effection... Lol
The Effects Collective
Dan and Mick "The Effects Duet"
G.A.S. - Great Ass Show
Ow My Wallet
"That Impulse Buy"
I also second "The Pedal Cave" If this happens theres a chance at another signiture pedal. The Pedal Cave Reverb!
Game Of Tones
Dan and Mick, First of their kind, the Reverands of Reverb, Delegates to the House of Delay, the Unphased, Defenders of Distortion, Heirs to the Almighty Overdrive, Fathers of Fuzz, Keepers of the Flange, the Cosmonauts of Echoes, the Protectors of Pedals, they are the Kings of Tone.
Bend the eq or lose your mids. All hail the true Kings of Effectsteros
You sir, have a talent for the smithery of words! Glad tidings to you!
That Pedal Show Thanks guys! Great show as always! Love the new space!
The pedal den.... the pedal lair...... the pedal sanctuary...... the hall of tone....
Great minds think a like. We both suggested That pedal Den only 10 seconds apart.
Too funny
Hall of Tone is nice
macleanclassics t the hall of tone is pretty good...
I'd flip it for Tone Hall
Call this show any name....all I care is that I look forward to Friday for this great show!!!!! I think "That Pedal Show" says it all!!!!
Wow the audio in the new place is really great. Awesome episode as always, guys.
How is Dan getting on with his newly chosen 12 gauge strings? How about calling it Man's Pedal Cave (M=mick -and 'an is from Dan)? Sounds better then D-ick lol.
"Hey guys, Man here!"
"Dick here, hello!"
I think this show is great, but sometimes with TPS I get a little weary of the supposed problems/issues with digital (talk of latency). Much to the detriment of my bank balance, I own loads of gear, analogue and digital. I use a G2 with fancy pedals, I also use a Strymon Timeline and BlueSky (digital), I use an Ox (sounds amazing) and record into Logic. I've owned fully digital pedals in the past and not found any problems. My Line 6 M5 is great! In isolation analogue might sound a little better, but it's very marginal with the good stuff. To the extent I'm thinking about a nice small HX Effects - easy routing and good sounds.
It's much more to do with the quality of the product and its use in context (as opposed to being used in isolation) than the principles of what seems to be prevalent here: analogue good, digital bad.
I work in film and TV. I work with great technicians and musicians, we use digital all the time. Purists and romantics want to work on film, but for a lot of uses it's not better - lenses, cameras, lighting etc have a big impact. We add film grain to things and even tell you it's shot on film and you would be none the wiser. I work on film and I love it. But I also work on digital and love it. Pixar is all digital, is plasticine animation shot on film better? No.
Like a good script and performance, the song and the playing is the most important thing that will resonate with you and your audience. Talk of digital latency vs analogue reminds me a bit too much of a trainset builder in his loft tinkering, when nobody even notices. Now, back to my Flying Scotsman...
benbutterworth you've set up multiple SS and Tube amps together and had no issues? Which ones did you use? Is there a video I could watch please?
Hulk Slayer nope, I’ve never done that, although I am using a Mark V and Amp 1 without issue (I don’t think the Amp 1 is digital, maybe elements are?). My comment was more about the general sniffiness around digital on TPS. I’ve used digital in various setups. I’ve never encountered latency with my Ox or torpedo live (which I had), I have picked up, and I’m sure others have too, what I think is a bit of a manufactured blanket bias against digital. I agree that valve amps sound better generally, but with effects and certainly recording devices and interfaces I think it’s much more of a mixed picture.
I always have issues with my setup (flexibility comes at a price it seems) ground noise with amps etc and had to call the GigRig to sort out the routing. They were really helpful, but it is complicated and so I am considering an alternative rig with just an HX effects and nothing else on the floor. By and large I have found valve amps to my taste, but even then my views are changing. Kempers are very impressive (no latency) and I think class D amps are changing the game. Look at the Blug Amp 1 and the Milkman floor pedal.
Talk to the GigRig guys about your setup, I know some of them are using kempers.
ruclips.net/video/QyvDZDYFFQY/видео.html Josh at JHS puts it well.
benbutterworth oh... well I think he was talking specifically running 3 amps as wet/dry/wet. That since SS and Tube amps work in different ways, that there might be a very slight perceived miss match in timing in that format. Which bummed me out cause I wanted to try it with my tube/hybrid/SS amps... but then I saw your post and got excited cause I thought you had done it before with no issues... let me know if you do it and post a video please
Hulk Slayer you’re right, but it just reminded me of a general disdain for most things digital on here. What about the Blackstar amps that are SS or a blues cube? Or a JC? Are they any good for you? Of course SS isn’t necessarily digital.
Love that ya'll are using amps I can afford! Thanks!
Call it Schwangri la!
Seriously though guys some tremendous sounds here and so inspirational. I've been toying with the wet/dry thing for a couple months now with a Deluxe Reverb and DSL40 and I think you've inspired me to dust off my Blues Junior and throw it into the mix as well. Also, the Boonar's been my favorite pedal for the lest six months or so, there are some really great sounds there and it seems endlessly tweakable.
Oh oh oh oh oh oh. We may have a winner. Cheers! Bet those three amps sound spectacular together! :0)
The Temple Of Tone
The new place should be called ”The Headroom”
Yes!! Thank you guys for the routing diagrams. I can do this!
So many good suggestions for the new name. Can't wait to hear what you guys select.
That Pedal Shack has the aaah sound as bookends.
That Pedal Den kind of sounds like That Pedal Dan.
That Pedal Barn or Farm are hilarious.
That Pedal Hall is kind of hard to say.
That Pedal Palace has the alliteration.
That Pedal Sanctuary makes it sound like a spiritual place of refuge. Absolutely fitting.
Chucking the old motif: The Shwang Shack is my favorite alternate option.
Thank you both as always! Have fun with all this new madness!
That pedal palace?
For the win!
Was going to suggest that my self, great name!
That Pedal Palace at Schwangri-La.
My problem with running multiple amps is that I get twice as much hum.
You need phase reversal in your outputs.
Phase reversal solves phase issues with multiple speakers, not hum problems. Phase reversal can theoretically not only cancel your hum, but also your regular guitar signal. So you really need signal isolators to stop ground loops. Like the gigrig humdinger, or more affordably: a behringer hum destroyer. Or just embrace hum as a fact of life.
That's what I meant! lol
Joseph Smith Ground lift with a Tele in the middle position or a humbucker and there is no hum
You may be having ground loops. Try something like EB Tech Hum Eliminator or Hum X.
Oh the clarity of sound!
Another great video! I tried a wet/dry setup using a little Crate set with gain and a Fender Mustang modeling a '59 bassman with modulation effects and besides being a truly great sounding rehearsal rig i am now completely rethinking what direction to go with my live setup. Thanks for the amazing information and inspiration.
When's Pete gonna be on?
Sooooooon. :0)
And there was I hoping to see a video deconstructing 'Love is All Around'... may be I'm a little too wet.
Congratulations on your move to the Pedal (Station). The sound and visuals are excellent. Listening the David G's performance of Sorrow on the 2016 Live at Pompeii DVD/CD has really inspired me to look at the Big Muff again after a long time away from one. It would be great if you could do a show on the Big Muff varieties and clones. Thanks for the continued inspiration!
PS thanks for all your hard work I’ve learnt heaps in the last year or so since I started subscribing
Every time i hear a wet and dry setup, i change my pedalboard. stop it ;)
That Pedal Sty
Totally loving the color grading & new aesthetic overall gents!
Bad day, bad week. AND made the mistake of getting into a horrible, depressing RUclips abuse fest.
But this has perked me up no end. F*$% it! It's Friday and the weekend.
Thanks for making the world a sane place again to you and all your followers.
And as my Friday now seems to be free I can make myself a Wet/Dry/Wet rig.
The Pedal Files
Oooof.
banjoboys Noooo
"That Pedal Farm"
Richard McEntee beat me to it 😀
A sonically superior episode. Love the new studio!
I love the comment about playing beyond yourself when it sounds right. We've all been there... when the humidity and temp is just right and the stars align and you become a guitar god!
New name ; “That Ampy-theatre” ... (as in the Greek word amphitheatre)
So... what you mean is that we don’t need £30k worth of gear now?!
Just when hundreds of husbands out there finally just convinced their wife already... please, delete this video now!!! :D
That Pedal Shed 2...looks super great dudes!
I don’t buy pedals anymore, but I love this show. The sound now is gorgeous.
One moron must have accidentally hit the dislike button.
We have one, usually in the first 10 mins. I get concerned when they’re late! Mick. :0)
Haha they must be jealous. Amazing sounds today, as always!
Can’t please some people