Can the Hunters be infected by the Flood?
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Today we're sort of continuing on from last video, by this time looking at whether the Hunters are immune to the Flood. It might seem like a weird species to talk about in regards to the Flood, but their biological make up may give them some significant advantages over other species...
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Hunter worms do not breath. The covenant encountered them on a forunner installation with no atmosphere
Starlesslemon actually the installationen had 20% oxygen left
A Random guy lol thats funny the hunter worms in night fall were also on a forerunner installation with 20% oxygen. Lol coincidence
Seedonator i mean them
And they can live anywhere as yhey were in space with no oxeygen and no need of it
Julio Torres living without oxygen and living in the cold void of space aren't the same thing
I would not like to see such a flood form, I think having hunters as uninfectable would make them a more interesting and important member of the fight against the flood cannonically
Unholywolf19 that would kind of ruin the point of having the halo.
Digiorno Digiovanna There can only be so many Lekgolo at once. They can't protect the other species enough to fight off a reasonable flood infection. Not to mention they can still be killed through conventional means and used as biomass.
Alex Reid you can have a fuck ton of lekgolo, by developing cloning technologies. But yeah I guess.
Digiorno Digiovanna mean, how do they breed? It could be possible that cloning wouldn’t be any faster...
TheNaturalnuke I mean they might breed like any other worm, but getting a working colony might take a while so I guess you have a point.
When I first played Halo 3 I thought the pure tank forms were infected hunters.
Steve Tomato me too
Steve Tomato dude same, I told all my friends that too and I think they believed me
Steve Tomato I didn't
Steve Tomato same here.
Same here
>flood infect individual lekgolo worm
>use them to take over vehicles
>flood-infected vehicles confirmed
romand271 not enough mass for infection
in halo wars 2 there is flood vehicles like there is a warthog somehow infected idk the flood took over it
They can’t infect vehicles but they can probably cover one in biomass
Backwater Moron Either that or they infect the drivers and/or pilots and/or gunners, then cover said vehicle in Biomass to secure control.
Well, the did take over a covenant corvette in halo 3.
Can the flood be infected by the flood?
Major Chief please let this be top comment
Thanks ;)
Major Chief GET THIS COMMENT THE TOP
Can the flood infect Chuck Norris or would the flood that try’s to infect him become a Chuck Norris
Major Chief yes it can
I don’t want to see a flood hunter. That would be a million times worse than a rocket launcher Flood
Leonidas the Great I agree and plus normal hunters are already to tough for me
How about a shotgun flood?
I BROKEMYOWNHEART Hell
@@ugandanknuckles3981 how about a Flood combat form driving a scorpion with 4 Flood combat forms sitting on the scorpion with rocket launchers?
@@raptorwithagun5206 They're not that hard, just shoot them in the back
So in regard to why the Lekgolo were on the Alpha shard, I've had some thoughts on that. The Lekgolo were used in some manner as an attempt to stop the Flood. At some point the Forerunners would have had to test this. We know Halos were used for Flood research and to store species. So, what if the experiments where Forerunners tried to battle the Flood with Lekgolo were carried out on Installation 04?
I still couldn't tell you why the Forerunners left the Lekgolo there, but it explains why they were there in the first place.
I don't think they had the time to test on them because they were probably too busy designing weapons to combat the flood or they were just extinct at the time. Also its really cool to see you here Halo Cannon.. i mean i love your videos but i never thought you'd take interest in other peoples XD
The Forerunners certainly did run tests. They were constantly looking for other ways to combat the Flood, anything that didn't involve the Halos being fired. As has been said, "1000 other plans were tried and failed"
And yeah, I regularly watch other Halo channels, even if I don't always comment. Always like hearing what other people think :)
I like this theory, gives I04 and even cooler history as an experimental anti-Flood countermeasure testing ground
Halo Canon u my man,is genius!!!
I thought the worms in Nightfall where remnants of the covenant that survived on the halo ring after it's destruction by the pillar of autumn. Being on that ring shard with no food and with such harsh conditions must have made them become less domesticated, more feral, and likely would result to caniblisum for any worms that died of starvation or was too weak to serve the colony, which would explain why they would still be around over the years.
Virtually any creature can be infected to become a combat form, but the most frequently-used hosts are Sangheili, humans and Jiralhanae. Unggoy and Kig-Yar can be used as combat forms, but this is uncommon due to their weaker body structure. A small number of species are known to be immune to conversion, including the Mgalekgolo/Lekgolo (which are composed of boneless worms that do not have a central nervous system), the Yanme'e, whose exoskeleton lacks the required amount of calcium which renders infection impossible, and the Huragok which is an artificial organism, and therefore believed to be immune.
SHAIBAL CHOWDHURY well wouldn't lekgolo be able to be infected as biomass because it wouldn't be big enough to be an infection form
Drones
I didn't know that about the yanme'e. Boy was forerunner research flawed
This guy knows his stuff!
A dead person quickly rip out your bones!
Lekgo is best alien race to fight against flood
SHAIBAL CHOWDHURY Sharquoi
SHAIBAL CHOWDHURY in halo wars 2 upgrade them with the laser cannons and your all set in the awakening the nightmare DLC
Especially if they have airtight suits to keep out the spores. They don’t even need to breathe, so they don’t need filters!
Drones are actually better. They cant be infected (cant remember why) and can fly out of reach of most flood attacks. Plus in canon drones were actually physically equal to elites in strength due to their high gravity homeworld
Is it the exoskeleton? Because that wouldn't stop the spores. Also, in one of the books, (primordium?) a forerunner witnesses a test-firing of a halo ring, and it reduces a biologically rich world to being home to nothing more complex than moss and bacteria, neither of which have nervous systems. I would be inclined to believe that everything more complex than that is capable of at least being infected by flood spores.
Remember when everyone thought the tank forms were hunters?
Those were strange days.
@n/a shut up
@n/a Nope.
n/a no?
@n/a not at all
What did he say guys?
That's why the covenant usually deploys hunter pairs during flood infections, No central Nervous system
It has been said in a book that hunters can't be infected because they function like a hive mind, and they are immune to the infection of the flood.
Ruby Rose Indeed. Their physical construction doesn’t allow the Flood to infect them.
What book?
It'd be *kinda hard-* for a hive mind to control a *SEPERATE* hivemind, no?
@@andrewadent4733 I think the comic, halo:bloodline
Aren't Hunter worms also in the scarabs ?
Yes shit... imagine a flood scarab
@@fossilyboi1056 scary
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I disagree. Flood require a central nervous system to infect. Aka a brain and spine. Lekegolo lack both.
Yes biomass is still an option. But that's not really infecting at that point.
There's also the fact that the Flood take the knowledge of their host, so they could learn how to form the bigger forms
Nah, lack of a spinal column does not = lack of a nervous system. Your spinal column is just a bone grouping with a central nerve running through it. And I also don't see how the LekGolo don't have brains. Nervous systems are kinda moot if there is no brain. Futhermore, even if a single flood spore were to enter something, it would still be considered infected, expecially if that things ends up fully converted into flood biomass. Remember that even though SGT Johnson was able to resist a flood infection form on Alpha Halo, he was still infected. After returning to Alpha base and getting checked, it was observed that some of his dna had been shuffled, a sign that he had in fact been exposed and went through only the beginning stages of being converted into either a combat form or biomass.
@n/a there are no infected hunters lol
@n/a But they aren't the same 😎
@n/a I've seen flood tanks, never seen any infected hunters 🤔
I didn't know the worms in Nightfall were Lekgolo... interesting
Your Mate Luke I thought they were a type of flood pure form
Even though Locke specifically says they're hunter worms.
NumericChaff cut him some slack he’s slow.
I don't think the Lekgolo worms breathe, considering the fact that there are/were many worms living in AN ASTEROID in the Halo 2 Anniversary terminals.
Asteroids CANNOT have an atmospere of their own due to ther weak gravity and the worms can live with no problem where Humans can't breathe (the nuked remainder of Installation 04A, for example).
They’d probably be used primarily as biomass to bolster other forms or as organic structural support. Perhaps that’s where most of the biomass on high charity came from
I like how you use the music that was used on Halo 2 when the chief had to just jump into a 3 way battle between the brutes and elites and a pair of hunters. Greatest moment in gaming history
you might want to sit this one out....
@@Silver4Hire yes!!! Cortana is love
Honestly, having a flood monstrosity made of a thousand worms as a sort of boss fight, rather than it being a normal enemy, sounds like it would be a really cool concept.
DON'T GIVE ME NIGHTMARES! i want to belive that i can't be infected!
Tell me, How come brutes kill your friends with 2 melee attacks but I have to max out my ammo and grenades, whyyy???
@@Lizwe I second this!
I personally always assumed they breathed through their skin. I also think if they are able to be infected, they'd act as some sort of infection form, slithering in groups up to a host, subduing them until one can force its way inside and infect the target. The rest possibly forming some sort of organic armour.
Sting Rey you are very intilligint
Didn't the Lekgolo live in the rings of a planet before the Covenant subjugated them? If so, they might not actually need to breathe.
i’m sorry but the second half sounds a lot like tentacle rape
5:33 Reminds me of the clip from the Halo 3 E3 trailer.
Did anyone else always think that the flood pure forms were infected hunters that were shape-shifting into forms while being controlled by the flood, before discovering this channel of course.
Endertale sans I did
Well, least i wasn't the only one
when i was a kid i tought that the tank pure form was a infected hunters
Endertale sans god u must either stupid or young at the time kid, they are nothing alike
No need to be rude, And i mean... i had the thought process of "The flood forms are all infected members of covenant and humanity, and those new flood *while looking at a tank form* look like a hunter more than anything."
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breaking benjamin; blow me away, written for halo 2, awesome song. go listen to the full version with vocals
Eduard X99 Not the valora one though🤢
Auxigamerz Yeah I'd give that one a hard pass
Dude, that intro was sick !
I love the Breaking Benjamin soundtrack you're playing in the background. That's one of my absolute favorite songs ever
I used to think the pure forms were hunters since they ran at you and pretty much moved like Hunters when going for a melee.
Three words...GIANT INFECTED WORM!
I mean...if, for some random ass reason, they decided to add biomass to an already infected Lekgolo( I hope I spelled that correctly) we could be dealing with a Giant Flood Worm...which could be used to breach defenses via tunneling underground. I mean it would be kinda cool to come up against something like that on legendary in my opinion.
Flood tries to get a flood Hunter
*Gets a pile of worms instead*
By infecting enough individual worms, the Flood can gain knowledge on how to get together to make Hunter forms.
Der Thinker Not how that works
TmanTheTdog it is actually the flood is not just some zombie virus there's a reason why the four runners failed to kill them the flood out smarted the the smartest ai in the whole halo universe
Justin Palmer YA DON’T SAY
Der Thinker An infection form would have to be riding each individual worm (to control the nervous system of the worm). This would make a Flood “Hunter” ridiculously easy to kill.
Spores can do it
Brilliant, this is something i wouldve suggested i also had this in mind, the Hunters man. Great creatures, lets see what the video says
Inhales: Becomes a infection form sized worm
Exhales: becomes like a earth-worm sized worm
The worm doesn't have spinal chord
Yeah it doesn’t make any sense for them to not have some kind of impulse highway if each one has to relay signals to the next.
They also don't even have a brain
You don't need to have a brain to get infected by the flood though. You just need a certain level of nervous system.
But in halo night fall you seen how they attack then how flood will infect them if they try then they will be killed or eaten by them I think the leko golem can defeat even grave mind
Divyam Srivastava i guess that makes sense. If they weren’t killed by the halo array then they probably can’t get infected.
All things considered, the neural connection between worms could stay intact after being infected. Like, the Lekgolo are essentially just hiveminds of worms, so one could trick the others into staying on board, and could convert the others by releasing spores through their connection.
Shelby Sigouin Ohh, I get what you mean. That's a way more boring answer, since the Flood is pretty much worthless against pack organisms like them.
I hope they don't ever make it so that the Lekgolo can get infected. I honestly really like how Hunters are like the ONE being in Halo that can't get infected, aside from Prometheans and other Forerunner tech of course.
Conner Richards prometheans weren't immune
@@tavianarmstrong974 Technically he’s right, Prometheans are hardlight/mechanized forms piloted by digitalized minds of whoever got whammed by a Composer. Nothing organic to get infected by the Flood Supercell. I assume either the Lekgolo is either too difficult to infect normally, or has some kind of ability to prevent infection that hasn’t been shown....or the Flood is pulling the same trick again and pretending the Lekgolo is immune.
Imagine if a h2 scarab being driven by a flood in a mission like on thr ark in h6
Like you said in the Spartan video, the flood has all of the knowledge and brain-power that the host has when it gets infected. This might mean that if all of the worms of a hunter were infected, they would still know how to work together to be a hunter, they would just be controlled by the flood.
For the longest time I thought the flood pure forms "Tank Forms" were infected hunters
Dan Ander same
I thought they was drones
But actually their pure breed flood forms and not the typical infected host form
cant a single infected worm just be shunted by the other worms
The real question is can doggos join the Spartan program ?
Mista Macho we need an ICONIC video on this
Mista Macho I wish
Please Xperia make this a thing.
Mista Macho I wish, I pray
They are welcomed openly to the flood program
When I was younger, I thought the tan forms from Halo 3 were infected hunters. Kind of makes sense too since lekgolo worms can change forms.
They aren’t by far I can’t remember what they were but they aren’t
Somewhat late on this. But if there was any possibility of the flood infecting and taking control of lekgolo worms, and still be able to maintain a combat viable form, then theoretically they could infect a scarab. Seeing as how those are essentially just much larger lekgolo colonies, just with a lot more technology involved.
Thx for another great video which answers my question 👏👍
Shadow the blood of Night cool
I always thought that the Tank flood was a hunter
ApexPredator tank flood is a pure form bro.
EVA Spartan 928 I know that know I meant like 5 yrs ago when so played halo 3 when I was younger and it looked like a hunter but like a year ago when I bought a book I was like Ohh it's not
You forgot to mention the radioactive fuel rods they're always lugging around also prevent them from being infected.
i love watching your videos just to see how much knowledge i have of the basic law and seeing what parts of it i need to improve on plus the extra info i get from your content is amazing. thanks for the entertainment keep it up.
can't wait for the day halo properly innovates and let's me rip off a hunter beam in campaign
MaximumRageQuit I don't think you'd be able to make use of it since it's designed for worms
BCV 424 lame excuse
@@TheRageEnterprise Well, SPV3 does allow that
Cyborg Mark VI I know and it's awesome. However it should be a feature in a dev game and not an awesome fan made mod
In HALO 5, i saw a guy walking around with one in Warzone: Turbo, but i think its like, extremely, incredibly rare
Short answer...yes, but it could take to long. And alot of effort
Shadow King what about the engineers from odst
no, there artificial, kind of like androids. they are also immune to the halo array.
An idea. Remember the swarm clouds from Halo Wars? Have that be our reintroduction to the flood in Halo Infinite. It covers a Hunter as the bond brother on the other end of the room watches, and suddenly a blast from the cannon shoots out of the cloud and slashes at the weak points as a decayed, flood hunter writhes out of the cloud as it dissipated, and finishes off the dying bond brother, sees chief, and let's out that familiar screeching.
Man that opening song brings me back to when I played halo 2 competitively (I practiced a lot with ogre 2/ the ogre twins if anyone remembers them) I miss the days of the BxR, Double shot, and the super jumps those were some good nostalgic times
Aren't scarabs made of these worms aswell?
96Lincoln TC no i think the scarabs are controlled by worms.
Yes they are
Neo Crusader yes i knew it! Thx for the lore
Shelby Sigouin ok im confused why does it take 2 elites in halo 2 to control a scarab but millions of lekgolo to control a scarab in halo 3.
Itz The One ikr who would have thought the scarab could have so much lore
they cant be infected, but they can be turned into biomass for the walls that then turn into jelly monsters
Maybe the Lekgolo absorb oxygen through their skin like some worms here on earth do, therefore making them invulnerable to flood spore infection
Grave mind: so how many living organisms do you want to be infected?
The flood: yes
Neither Hunters or Drones can be infected by flood, they lack a vertebrate like nervous system.
Nice vid!
Love how Blow Me Away Instrumental is playing in the bathroom. Sad how some people don't understand the reference because they don't have the original Halo 2 for the Xbox.
I always thought that those shapeshifting flood from halo 3 were infected hunters...
Now I know...
What about the fighting scene in halo legend when human and covenant fought together against the flood? There you can see en infected hunter.
Wait for real? Which specific one was that?
SolutiionxD
⚠️ Extremely long comment below:
I think Halo Legends was written by different people.
Different people, different story.
We never saw the Flood invade Harvest during the Covenant scourge and the UNSC never fought with the Covenant in the normal Halo.
Also, High Charity being infected, in Halo Legends, was started with crashing phantoms, contrary to the Halo 2 scene where UNSC Pelicans drop flood forms out of them.
Halo Legends is supposed to be a representation of the past events where Master Chief fought.
You can say these are the memories of Cortana which are becoming unstable due to the logic plague seeded in her.
We don’t see the Huragok being infected by the Flood because usually, they implode, reducing the fact of being infected in the first place, and the Prophet Of Regret being killed by Arbiter (Thel’ Vadamee) in High Charity which never happened (Regret was killed and infected in Installation 05-Delta Halo not High Charity.
If you still don’t get this, then here’s another thing. You know the Prophet Of Mercy, we never saw him infected whilst the Arbiter was there. Only Chief (S-117) did, which he killed the Infection Form latching on to Mercy proving that the scene is, possibly, non-canonical. Hunters don’t appear to be vulnerable to Infection through traditional means. That scene could have been a Pure Form or a Combat Form, excluding Hunters.
Just my opinion though...
The flood can just use the pistol from ce, one shot to the back and they’re done
Sorry I didn't watch the video on Friday, I was busy. Great video by the way 😀
Lekgolo worms don't breathe, they lived in space on the rings of Te
I smoked pot but I didn’t inhale
seems like that went over some kid's head, ha.
Wouldn't the infection form be too big for a lekgolo worm?
*sienfield theme plays*
When Blow me away song started to play in that one mission on halo 2 was such a badass moment
Im still proud if myself for reccomending this topic a while back! Im not gonna not live this down.
The Lekgolo are Immune to Flood infection
5 bucks is watching this and wondering, aren't those big dudes infected hunters?
*well no, you're talking about the flood tank, which is comprised of biomass(pure form) but if enough worms were used like Xperia said, the biomass could probably be used to create it*
I can imagine a Lekgolo infection being a sort of hit-and-run idea; nab at least one worm, get it the hell out of there and let the Graveminds use its biomass and knowledge - from there, the Gravemind could probably learn how to make Flood Hunters use a new type of pure form
Lekgolo are the key to destroying the flood
What about the other species like the grunts, jackals, and drones? Is it possible for them to be infected?
Sean Welch your a dumb dumb
Yes, because they have a central nervous system. Why there's no infected counterparts in Halo CE, 2 and 3 however is beyond me.
I know that they infect thru the nervous system. That's not what I was trying to ask. What I was trying to ask was is there a biological reason why they haven't or is it most likely that they never designed the concept of these species being infected. Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the closest thing we got to that was a carrier form with a jackal shield on it.
Sean Welch Well most jackals and grunts are made into carrier forms(The slow ones that explode) because of their weak bodies as combat forms are usually Elites, humans and brutes as their strong physiology better for combat.
Makes since. It would be interesting to see concept of what they would look like if they had combat forms of themselves.
Would I be correct in saying the Hunters and Flood are extremely similar?
Koty Wilkinson no
Don’t roam Kapkan! But are sort of like a hivemind they also form different versions of themselves? Like the flood
The hunters are not a hive mind. They are a collective mind. A bunch of worms, fueled by instinct, gather to create something smarter. The Flood are a bunch of organisms under an overarching authority- a Gravemind, that controls the Flood. It's debatable whether the Thanolekgolo from Nightfall are even completely sentient in the first place, as they seem to only munch on electronics. But then again, they did form into a human, so maybe they are.
That Breaking Benjamin opening got me hyped XD
God I haven't played this in like 2 years and I are and I remember it all like I was playing yesterday
Can hidden Xperia be infected by the flood? Hmmm.
God our Halo news is dry dry dry, I feel like a crackhead searching everyday for H6 news
I’d like to think of two scenarios involving infection forms and lekgolo.
1. An infection form only infects one worm which the gets ejected from the body and then killed
2. The infection form crawls into the neck without infecting any worms, which then proceed to kill the infection form
So is it a new addition that blow me away is played at the beginning of each video?
Haven't watched it yet but I'm sure it's a no since the hunters don't have a centralized nervous system
Wait so what were those HUGE flood forms with the big arms in Halo 3? I thought those were the hunter flood form?
Mad Amd those were pure forms made completely from flood biomass. Those crawly ones, the one that shot you and the big form were actually all the same type of flood, it can change between them in the game.
that would be a pure form, specifically the tank variant of it
First time I saw s pure form in Halo 3 I thought I was a infected hunter.
Matt K same
Pretty sure the lekgolo as biomass would be the only way to convert them. And it makes sense since we've had covenant ship's taken over by the flood with no traces of lekgolo.
I'm starting to think Xperia is running out of ideas.
Thel 'Vadam You think that?
Leonardo Farias He's already answered the question in multiple previous flood videos.
Flood cannot infect lekgo because they do have bone
SHAIBAL CHOWDHURY Fam why would that matter
SHAIBAL CHOWDHURY do not*
Tony Flamingo check information of flood in halopedia .It is written that lekgo cannot be infected by flood
They do have a spine! Also halopedia is wrong
Clarification. You need a central nervous system to be infected (Not a spine necessarily). Hence why things like lekgolo or plants can't be infected
I love the way you speak, it sounds so genuent
For gameplay purposes A pure form tank could take the Hunter armor and gun. And if the flood could get a hold of one and the worms tagt controlled it to gain the knowledge, there could be a flood controlled scarab by shoving biomass and a few moving pieces into the scarab frame
I love the song for you opening
Theres a book I'm pretty sure it was about spartan team black and gave plenty of flashbacks to how Spartans were trained. Anyways in the book they found themselves on a forerunner installation that was designed to find species immune to the flood and in the book it found the hunters to be immune due to their lack of having the proper amount of biomass for the flood to use.
The Flood wouldn't really need their larger forms I think, since they can already make Pure forms that have Tank morphs. Although it would be reaaally interesting to see if the Flood infected all the Lekgolo in a Scarab, if they could control the Scarab without a dedicated crew like the Covenant. (SInce ya know, scarabs are just ALOT of Lekgolo with some armor plating and weapon systems to hold them in place.)
I always used to think the Flood Tank forms were infected Hunters when I was young.
I always figured that the Lekgolo as biomass theory was probably the safest assumption for starters.
That music is so nostalgic
Thank you a lot, I was thinking about Hunter flood forms, now I discovered what I wanted
the hunters where found on a forerunner homeworld i like to think they are one of the last bio weapons the forerunners developed to fight the flood before they reset. hunters and humans being mvps in a all out galactic flood war would be pretty cool.
The hunters face or head always looked cool to me. Halo reach’s hunters are so damn cool
Great video!
Kool, watching all the Hunter outakes takes me back to each of those moments. Halo was so freakin awesome.
an infection form can force it's way inside the hunter, stretch all of its tendrils, and take control of multiple worms, that will force the other worms to move and shift forcefully by the infection forms