NOTICE: I designed the original version/prototype of this tool, so while none of us benefit financially from it selling, it might not come as a surprise that A) we like it and B) it does well on the dyno it was developed on. If another review shows up, we'll link to that here in the interest of not being blindly biased idiots.
I love seeing tools like this born from an idea! And under a car, that palm impact is a game changer! Less weight over your head makes it safer for us! Takes one slip and you hurt yourself
There's a few more things with my hand in it coming out or has recently, we'll sprinkle some here and there when we think it would be cool to cover. But not really something we want to focus on
@@TorqueTestChannel I can understand not wanting to focus on your own work when the channel thrives on variety. Speaking of variety, can you get your hands on a Jonnesway air wrench? They're more refined than the Central Pneumatic air ratchet, but I'm interested in how it might compare to a Chicago Pneumatic air ratchet.
mechanics always come up with the best ideas....too bad it's a real feat to get it patented...I had a few tools yrs ago and it would have cost $5000 dollars then just to do a patent search...can't compete against the big boys when those kinds of dollars are being thrown around
I was told it was already in the process of being copied before it came out, as Taiwain is a small island and word gets around. It's how it goes. Honestly if someone makes a better one for less why shouldn't you buy it? Because I need an atta boy pat on the head? Use what works.
@@fascistpedant758 That happens alot. For example, the invention of the Fast Fourier Transform (a common and widely used computer algorithm) often gets credited to James Cooley and John Tukey in the 1960s. But the basic algorithm was invented by Carl Frederick Gauss in 1805. But at the time, there wasn't much use for it, so it sat virtually unknown until computers got invented.
@@fascistpedant758 But left to rot because it's technically illegal to produce such tools/ideas cos the "originators" just sit on it. Puts a real [insert offensive word of your choice] up the **** of independent parallel discovery too.
@@fascistpedant758 absolutely. My step fathers uncle held many patents, but many of his best ideas were already taken. He has books with notes and ideas and successful patents. Very smart man, thought in ways that normal men couldn't. He was also schizophrenic. He would lock himself up for days while working on his ideas.
Ever since I saw this on Astro's website I knew it would show up here eventually. This is genius. Well done coming up with it and getting it approved. This will definitely be helpful in RV and bus engine compartments. Thanks for your continued diligence.
I saw this video months ago when it was first posted, been looking for an excuse to buy one and the engineers at John Deere finally gave me a reason. Got it shipping to my house right now, thank you for designing this tool
This is a cool idea. It isn't every day someone comes up with a whole new concept in a mature market. I don't need one, but I'm happy to know it exists.
That remote impact seems like a case I don't know what I'm missing until I have it. On newer semi trucks there one particular trans bell housing bolt that I always struggle with. Usually I resort to the long cordless ratchet neutral drop routine, but this seems like a genuinely great alternative to that.
Yeah, sometimes uses for a tool show up after you get it. In my case, I picked up a cordless hot glue gun in a 'well why not?' moment. I've used that glue gun a surprising number of times.
You mentioning bellhousing bolts made me interested in that frankenstein creation. I'll keep it in mind should I start getting more of that kind of work in the future. Also, I never though about it before, but those palm nailers might be a pretty nice addition for tight spaces when the normal air hammer won't fit...
Super cool, I could see an M12 Fuel or Dewalt Xtreme 12V version of this where the battery, chip sets and switch are remote, with a 0-gauge cable leading to a handheld palm-style brushless motor and mechanism.
Many years ago I 'designed' a 'remoted' hammerdrill for use by a robot in confined spaces in the Great Pyramid in Egypt (of all places). Drill a hole, stick a borescope in; that sort of thing. We bought the fanciest DeWalt cordless, I think it was 24V, and took it apart to suitably repackage the thing. I remember doing current measurements out back behind the lab, drilling 3/4" holes into old concrete barricades and the like. We saw ~100A for 10's or seconds at a time - presumably until the BMS cried uncle. Sizing the cable needed to put the battery a couple feet away (long skinny robot, drill at the front, battery at the back) was no fun at all.
@torquetestchannel - awesome idea and tool, can't believe we actually haven't seen something like this on the market before now. I imagine this will benefit quite a few mechanics and even some DIY'ers. awesome job mate!
This little palm gun and a co2 tank is perfect for off road emergency repairs, as in my experience broken parts have less clearance and generally aren’t the super tight mounts that get busted up. I’m seriously considering getting a power tank just for this now, as I’ve been running battery tools for this emergency task previously. But this allows a killer air up and emergency repair kit in less space than both previously took up, which is critical for small Jeeps. Seriously I love this idea and I want to test it out on the trails… just not on my Jeep.
I think you really nailed it at the end. This will be perfect for the times when the only way to get a regular impact on the bolt is a Frankenstein of extensions and swivels.
You know it's funny, I have to do a clutch job on my 3rd Gen. 4runner soon and I was thinking damn that would be nice to get the bell housing bolts out and then you said it at the end of the video. because last time I had to do one I needed at least 2ft of extensions with an air impact. You've got me sold
I bought the pair just as soon as I saw Clay Koon show one on his MTN video a few months ago. Very few know how many companies rely on Astro for a huge selection of products, I've been to the repair center/warehouse just east of Los Angeles, lots of boxes with high end company names on them there.
I sometimes use a palm nailer when I don't have space to swing a hammer under a car. You might need to make a small punch or chisel for it but it's sometimes useful.
Found your channel about a week to two weeks ago, with the Milwaukee 2767-20 Impact H96A VS H96B, and have been hooked on your other videos since. I don't really have any need to buy an impact wrench, but find you to be both easy to follow and honest facts about the power of the tools you show. Thank you for your honest tests and showing which tools to absolutely stay away from, and showing that Kobalt is a decent battery family for those starting out and with a budget.
Never used a palm nailer for its intended purpose, however i did make a different hammer for one to use as sort of a handheld planishing hammer for sheet metal work. So far it is one of my favorite tools, very fast when needed, yet can be very gentle and controllable. Works wonderfully for hammering out smaller dents in car bodies. As far as air tools in general go, it would be interesting to see a test between two tools where one had some intake work done (port/polish, larger valve, larger hose even) and the other had the same on the exhaust (port/polish, drilled out exhaust ports). On one hand, more air=more better. On the other, making 'spent' air flow out easier would increase pressure difference between in and out, giving the tool more power.
I once used a mini air rattle gun to pull off an L76 crank bolt on a VE Commodore; it was my boss's car. The mini rattle gun had high RPM, it smooshed my hand between the crank bolt/rattle gun and the thematic fans. It tore the skin off my hand.
ngl, with the advent and power of modern cordless impact wrenches, Ive been struggling to find a reason to have my own air impact, but holy crap that palm design is amazingly compact, especially without the handle
Video suggestion. Tire inflation tools speed and accuracy. I inflate semi tires as high as 120psi and I remove the valve core till it inflates to target pressure. Then install the core. Some chuck just barely bleed air in. Others don't have enough grip to install the chuck and walk away
Watching this gave me a dumb idea about right angle impacts like the Kolbalt. I wonder how they would stack up on the ratchet gauntlet vs just the Dyno.
i've got the small Bosch palm nailer. works great between floor joists and for stuff yer holding together with yer other hand. the palm impact is a good idea
I'm blown away guy, this is legitimately a good idea. There may be some spaces a right angle wouldn't fit as well plus the power is excellent in that small package. How big of a compressor is acceptable for running one of these?
The only thing I can see that would make it better would be a swivel end air fitting on the base of the tool where the hose mounts. This thing is phenomenal
I have the 1/2” version of this palm impact. While powerful, it does have its downside also. 1. The air trigger valve is too sensitive. Needs a safety feature similar to a die grinder. While working on suspension components the tool was accidentally triggered a few times while being moved around on the ground with all the other tools in the area. This also caused sockets to come off the tool and go flying. Go ahead,put a socket on a swivel head, and then put that on the tool. Take your chances and squeeze the air valve with no load on the tool. It’s like playing Russian roulette. 2. No 3rd hand. 1 hand to hold a wrench on a bolt head, one hand to hold the impact, and use what to activate the air valve?
You made suggestion and a company actually made the thing? Wow, that almost never happens anymore. So many companies come out and say "don't give us suggestions for new products or improvements". Always nice to have another option. Take a few "atta boy"s out of petty cash, You have earned them! It is also cool to see a brand name palm nailer. I almost bought a no name one at Menards way back when we were renovating our house but I figured it would blow up on the 31st day and I would be stuck with a paper weight. I will have to look up what Metabo/HPTs warranty is. I still don't understand that rebrand. "We bought a middle of the pack power tool brand. Let's use our high end brand on them but not beef up the design any. No way that will dilute the value of our brand right?"
well you dispelled the notion of some of the applications I was thinking of. But I guess really specialized and repeat processes on certain bolts. Maybe Assembly line work?
I was JUST THINKING about something like this. Well, more like welding the end of an auger to a socket and seeing what happens, but this looks way safer and better!
man i just saw those for sale not long ago and was like sic, of course he had something to do with it haha love astro so underrated, so many guys at auto school never heard of em
Dude, Ridgid used to make a tool literally called the "palm impact screwdriver" Since they stopped making them, their value has gone off the rails. On eBay, they're selling for up to $300. New they were $99(?) I found one at a pawn shop, and got lucky, getting it for $60 with charger and battery
Next version of the palm impact should be a bit more ergonomic for the holding orientation. Maybe also move the valve lever to where the thumb would be, then make the design to where the valve module can pop off and be reversed to make the tool ambidextrous; so that the other hand can be freed up, as not every fastener goes into a rigid block after all, sometimes you need a wrench in your other hand. With a sizable lever and the thumb's finer movement, it shouldn't be too difficult to feather the valve if you don't want all the beans. Alternatively, a palm-actuated valve, more pressure means more power, I remember some electric screwdriver AvE reviewed doing something similar to this, but that kind of activation makes more sense within this context; I also don't really foresee an issue with this kind of valve implementation as the tool will always be palmed, it also frees the thumb again for better grip on the tool. Palm tools are interesting, but I think they need a bit more design work considering we're all used to holding some kind of handle; square-backed tools, with sharper corners and no contours, like we see on handle-based guns, just aren't all that ergonomic for palming a tool, nor is it ergonomic for a claw-like grip.
I have an air palm nailer and have only used it a few times. I've grown to haaaaate using air tools. Being on both m12 and skil 12v, I'm really interested in a comparison of that m12 nailer vs the Skil 12v 'Auto Hammer'. To me, the form factor of the Skil looks more functional, and if it's even close to the m12, that would cement my decision.
I've been an Engineer for nearly 35 years, and the Intellectual Property (IP) Agreements that employees sign states that any idea you come up with during the period of employment working for a given company is theirs. This is true for what you develop at their office, while commuting to/from, or even what you think of at night when you're sleeping or on vacation. So things are pretty well locked down. The only way to get real credit and income from a patent is to a) be self employed and not work for anyone, b) come up with your own idea, c) perform all the IP "prior art" research, d) employ your own IP Attorney, and so forth. It's a bitch!! Often times, just coming up with an idea and getting credit for it, is the best one can hope for. I'd be impressed if TTC got a bonus or other perc. Being Engineers isn't as easy as many think. Love the channel and your contributions to the community!
perhaps use a bolt in yer dyno with a 1/2" square hole so you can attach a 1/2" square anvil w/o using a socket. that way you can determine any loss due to the socket itself, perhaps find which brand is best at transferring torque to the load
I WANT THIS NOW! I want a TTC Meatball (yes, its what Im calling it!) Congrats. I know it feels good just being part of advancements, and watch other companies take your idea and run....You probably could have patented this, and make a buck or at least get formal recognition.
@@TorqueTestChannel Not always. I tried patenting a process (less tool related) but GE came in and stole it (long story), and now its not being used at all. A patent can block, but also ensure an idea makes it out there. I still think its cool that they made your idea, and will be ordering it from your link, so you get something!
@@TorqueTestChannel @Torque Test Channel I love tools, so its no skin off my back...ok, well 140 bucks worth but its worth it. By supporting the sales, they may be more inclined to take you up in the future for another idea! And yes, I totally see this working on rusted exhaust manifold bolts. Its a great idea, and I see the TTC Meatball becoming a tool thats in every technicians toolbox!
Skilz have a Auto Hammer, it's cordless, airless and is a battery operated air hammer.... need to have more reviews before purchasing one. Seen videos of people knocking out control arms off of vehicles with it.
I am not a mechanic. Just a home workshop guy. My front line tools are 1/2 impact and Milwaukee 1/4 bit impact. Ive been planning on buying a 3/8 socket impact as I use the 3/8 adapter on the Milwaukee more than any other tool. But there are A LOT of places where the 1/4 is a tad too long. Frustrating. This will come first and may even eliminate the need for the 3/8 electric
Test idea: Test which grinders/cutoff tools cut rubber horse stall mat best while using a standard cutting wheel. it will be so cool on video...........
@@TorqueTestChannel Cool,But you never tried cutting a horse stall mat...did you? it liquefies the rubber...tons of smoke...makes nearly any grinder overheat....try it!
Great video and I like the remote air valve. I worked at a place that had a 1 inch drive and the air valve was on the back of a handle and the nut on the u bolt loosened and pined his hand to the concrete with the air valve full open. Luckily someone heard him yelling and turned the air off at the wall. I don't remember how you changed directions on it but it messed up his hand a little bit.
OH! very nice, I want one. But 160+60 dollar to get it here is a bit steep and switching jobs soon. So next year I know if need to get one. But man such a good idea!
It's $120 right now at CPO not sure what shipping it though so probably works out about the same. Seriously considering picking on up as I seem to find myself working on forklifts lately and they are not built bolt removal in mind. Don't know why they don't just weld everything in would be only slightly more of a PITA to work on... that's sarcasm folks.
Strange that no cordless manufacturers ever made remote battery tools. 'The post apocalyptic inventor' converted a few old drills to remote battery. Seems like that nailer could be smaller with a clip on battery pack on his belt. And with more capacity too.
NOTICE: I designed the original version/prototype of this tool, so while none of us benefit financially from it selling, it might not come as a surprise that A) we like it and B) it does well on the dyno it was developed on. If another review shows up, we'll link to that here in the interest of not being blindly biased idiots.
I love seeing tools like this born from an idea! And under a car, that palm impact is a game changer! Less weight over your head makes it safer for us! Takes one slip and you hurt yourself
It would be awesome to see a pass through palm impact for long bolts.
@@paedahe4975 I've seen air air ratchet like that. But it's like $160 PER SIZE (15mm, 16mm, 17mm ect)
I feel like you should get a least something for your idea
@@TorqueTestChannel Have you tested the Klein pass through on this channel? The one that take DeWalt batteries?
It's really satisfying finally seeing your R&D at Astro bearing fruit.
There's a few more things with my hand in it coming out or has recently, we'll sprinkle some here and there when we think it would be cool to cover. But not really something we want to focus on
@@TorqueTestChannel I can understand not wanting to focus on your own work when the channel thrives on variety.
Speaking of variety, can you get your hands on a Jonnesway air wrench? They're more refined than the Central Pneumatic air ratchet, but I'm interested in how it might compare to a Chicago Pneumatic air ratchet.
mechanics always come up with the best ideas....too bad it's a real feat to get it patented...I had a few tools yrs ago and it would have cost $5000 dollars then just to do a patent search...can't compete against the big boys when those kinds of dollars are being thrown around
I was told it was already in the process of being copied before it came out, as Taiwain is a small island and word gets around. It's how it goes. Honestly if someone makes a better one for less why shouldn't you buy it? Because I need an atta boy pat on the head? Use what works.
You'd be surprised to see how many of your "original" ideas have already been patented 50 or 100 years ago.
@@fascistpedant758 That happens alot. For example, the invention of the Fast Fourier Transform (a common and widely used computer algorithm) often gets credited to James Cooley and John Tukey in the 1960s. But the basic algorithm was invented by Carl Frederick Gauss in 1805. But at the time, there wasn't much use for it, so it sat virtually unknown until computers got invented.
@@fascistpedant758 But left to rot because it's technically illegal to produce such tools/ideas cos the "originators" just sit on it. Puts a real [insert offensive word of your choice] up the **** of independent parallel discovery too.
@@fascistpedant758 absolutely. My step fathers uncle held many patents, but many of his best ideas were already taken. He has books with notes and ideas and successful patents. Very smart man, thought in ways that normal men couldn't. He was also schizophrenic. He would lock himself up for days while working on his ideas.
As a millwright that often has just enough room for his hand to be in a machine, I would love having something like this. Great job
Ever since I saw this on Astro's website I knew it would show up here eventually. This is genius. Well done coming up with it and getting it approved. This will definitely be helpful in RV and bus engine compartments. Thanks for your continued diligence.
Your work at Astro Pneumatic is finally bearing fruit. I always look forward to your videos in Friday. Thanks.
I saw this video months ago when it was first posted, been looking for an excuse to buy one and the engineers at John Deere finally gave me a reason.
Got it shipping to my house right now, thank you for designing this tool
I appreciate your honesty both in testing and history of the new tool. This is the reason this channel is so highly rated and trusted.
You really NAILED IT with this video.
I hate you
I love that you gave them an idea and they made it, props to Astro for listening to customers!
He does work for them in r&d, which probably helps.
The fact that there is an Impact like that Onyx is amazing when it comes to the current technology.
Amazing job TTC! Keep up the great work!
I can think of numerous times where this palm impact would have been such a knuckle saver. What a cool idea!
This is a cool idea. It isn't every day someone comes up with a whole new concept in a mature market. I don't need one, but I'm happy to know it exists.
That remote impact seems like a case I don't know what I'm missing until I have it. On newer semi trucks there one particular trans bell housing bolt that I always struggle with. Usually I resort to the long cordless ratchet neutral drop routine, but this seems like a genuinely great alternative to that.
Yeah, sometimes uses for a tool show up after you get it. In my case, I picked up a cordless hot glue gun in a 'well why not?' moment. I've used that glue gun a surprising number of times.
The palm impact looks handy!
Palmy.. looks palmy....
You sir have made the million dollar idea congrats on this masterpiece 👏
You mentioning bellhousing bolts made me interested in that frankenstein creation. I'll keep it in mind should I start getting more of that kind of work in the future.
Also, I never though about it before, but those palm nailers might be a pretty nice addition for tight spaces when the normal air hammer won't fit...
Super cool, I could see an M12 Fuel or Dewalt Xtreme 12V version of this where the battery, chip sets and switch are remote, with a 0-gauge cable leading to a handheld palm-style brushless motor and mechanism.
oh cable :)
If you're putting the battery on a tether, there is no reason to limit yourself to 12v.
@@Kineth1 Right! Why not use 120 volts and no batteries at that point? /s
Many years ago I 'designed' a 'remoted' hammerdrill for use by a robot in confined spaces in the Great Pyramid in Egypt (of all places). Drill a hole, stick a borescope in; that sort of thing. We bought the fanciest DeWalt cordless, I think it was 24V, and took it apart to suitably repackage the thing. I remember doing current measurements out back behind the lab, drilling 3/4" holes into old concrete barricades and the like. We saw ~100A for 10's or seconds at a time - presumably until the BMS cried uncle. Sizing the cable needed to put the battery a couple feet away (long skinny robot, drill at the front, battery at the back) was no fun at all.
@@hiugyuhgf I was thinking of the ubiquitous 20v batteries that each manufacturer also makes.
You had me at palm being able to use it as a bola is just icing on the cake.
First warning label I've seen in a long time that is probably needed. hahahha
@torquetestchannel - awesome idea and tool, can't believe we actually haven't seen something like this on the market before now. I imagine this will benefit quite a few mechanics and even some DIY'ers. awesome job mate!
Most of the difficulty is in making an impact head that small make power, which super modern air impacts can - so I just added a hose really
@@TorqueTestChannel it is still genius, even if the contribution was small to the effort, the overall product is genius
This little palm gun and a co2 tank is perfect for off road emergency repairs, as in my experience broken parts have less clearance and generally aren’t the super tight mounts that get busted up. I’m seriously considering getting a power tank just for this now, as I’ve been running battery tools for this emergency task previously. But this allows a killer air up and emergency repair kit in less space than both previously took up, which is critical for small Jeeps. Seriously I love this idea and I want to test it out on the trails… just not on my Jeep.
That is so dope astro Made a 3/8 and 1/2 palm Impact off your Design and idea @Torque Test Channel
that's awesome that they built a tool based on your design input. congrats.
That air palm thing is easily the coolest tool I've seen, now I just need to find something to need it for lmao
Dude I've been talking about this exact thing I can't believe you made it and astro listend... thank God
I think you really nailed it at the end. This will be perfect for the times when the only way to get a regular impact on the bolt is a Frankenstein of extensions and swivels.
You know it's funny, I have to do a clutch job on my 3rd Gen. 4runner soon and I was thinking damn that would be nice to get the bell housing bolts out and then you said it at the end of the video. because last time I had to do one I needed at least 2ft of extensions with an air impact. You've got me sold
A two handed compact impact wrench. Well that's something I never thought of
I bought the pair just as soon as I saw Clay Koon show one on his MTN video a few months ago. Very few know how many companies rely on Astro for a huge selection of products, I've been to the repair center/warehouse just east of Los Angeles, lots of boxes with high end company names on them there.
I would definitely purchase your new design if TTC got some royalties.
Only buy tools that are useful to you, we dont need your $
@@TorqueTestChannel This right here is why we trust you guys so much. Keep up the good work and I'm gonna keep repping my impact shirt :)
@@TorqueTestChannel I certainly meant no offense.
TTC is a fantastic channel that I've greatly enjoyed.
WOW! What an awesome idea. Not for me as a home mechanic, but if I was a pro, this would absolutely be in my toolbox.
I sometimes use a palm nailer when I don't have space to swing a hammer under a car. You might need to make a small punch or chisel for it but it's sometimes useful.
Those palm nailers work great with a pneumatic hammer bit to get in tight spots that a regular length one would not
Found your channel about a week to two weeks ago, with the Milwaukee 2767-20 Impact H96A VS H96B, and have been hooked on your other videos since. I don't really have any need to buy an impact wrench, but find you to be both easy to follow and honest facts about the power of the tools you show. Thank you for your honest tests and showing which tools to absolutely stay away from, and showing that Kobalt is a decent battery family for those starting out and with a budget.
That's a awesome idea. Congratulation on the new product
Nice! I need it! I work on compact Japanese cars so this is exactly what the doctor ordered.
Never used a palm nailer for its intended purpose, however i did make a different hammer for one to use as sort of a handheld planishing hammer for sheet metal work. So far it is one of my favorite tools, very fast when needed, yet can be very gentle and controllable. Works wonderfully for hammering out smaller dents in car bodies.
As far as air tools in general go, it would be interesting to see a test between two tools where one had some intake work done (port/polish, larger valve, larger hose even) and the other had the same on the exhaust (port/polish, drilled out exhaust ports). On one hand, more air=more better. On the other, making 'spent' air flow out easier would increase pressure difference between in and out, giving the tool more power.
I saw that on amazon! Sick!
Love that it's being sold now
I once used a mini air rattle gun to pull off an L76 crank bolt on a VE Commodore; it was my boss's car. The mini rattle gun had high RPM, it smooshed my hand between the crank bolt/rattle gun and the thematic fans. It tore the skin off my hand.
ngl, with the advent and power of modern cordless impact wrenches, Ive been struggling to find a reason to have my own air impact, but holy crap that palm design is amazingly compact, especially without the handle
Would love to see how the new 12v skil brushless nailer stacks up against the m12 palm nailer.
I love that you went to astro n were like bro n they were like bro we got you
Oh _suuuuuure,_ you don't care AT ALL how well this tool sells, which is totally why you did a good job engineering it.
Video suggestion. Tire inflation tools speed and accuracy. I inflate semi tires as high as 120psi and I remove the valve core till it inflates to target pressure. Then install the core. Some chuck just barely bleed air in. Others don't have enough grip to install the chuck and walk away
I JUST watched a Short where someone used a cordless palm nailer to remove a ball joint. Seems not unuseful.
Saw it as well and bam, had this video pop into my feed. Would love to see them test the skil
@@jimmyvaught the a l g o r i t h m!
Nice little powerhouse. Also doubles as a medieval flail weapon for the the inevitable zombie apocalypse.
Watching this gave me a dumb idea about right angle impacts like the Kolbalt. I wonder how they would stack up on the ratchet gauntlet vs just the Dyno.
i've got the small Bosch palm nailer. works great between floor joists and for stuff yer holding together with yer other hand. the palm impact is a good idea
I'm blown away guy, this is legitimately a good idea. There may be some spaces a right angle wouldn't fit as well plus the power is excellent in that small package. How big of a compressor is acceptable for running one of these?
only need a 10gal compressor, 130psi static
That is the most ridiculously hilariously wonderful thing I've seen in a while 🤣
The only thing I can see that would make it better would be a swivel end air fitting on the base of the tool where the hose mounts. This thing is phenomenal
TTC, has anyone sent in Masterforce (Menards) brand tools? Us folks in the Midwest would love to know if they are any good.
Ever person who is a mechanic needs to watch this channel.... would settle a lot of arguments haha 😄
Someones got influence in the tool world now! 😆👍
Good idea.
Very handy tool, no pun intended.
I have the 1/2” version of this palm impact. While powerful, it does have its downside also.
1. The air trigger valve is too sensitive. Needs a safety feature similar to a die grinder. While working on suspension components the tool was accidentally triggered a few times while being moved around on the ground with all the other tools in the area. This also caused sockets to come off the tool and go flying. Go ahead,put a socket on a swivel head, and then put that on the tool. Take your chances and squeeze the air valve with no load on the tool. It’s like playing Russian roulette.
2. No 3rd hand. 1 hand to hold a wrench on a bolt head, one hand to hold the impact, and use what to activate the air valve?
Omg that Milwaukee Palm Cordless Nailer is huge @Torque Test Channel
I highly recommend doing a dyno test on the new Skil 12v & 20V 3/8 impact wrenches
You guys are awesome. Glad to see your ideas getting fragmented into actual development
When I was working on rollercoasters that would of been amazing. Especially for an RMC raptor
Added to my wish list. Can't wait. Thanks for sharing.
You made suggestion and a company actually made the thing?
Wow, that almost never happens anymore.
So many companies come out and say "don't give us suggestions for new products or improvements".
Always nice to have another option.
Take a few "atta boy"s out of petty cash,
You have earned them!
It is also cool to see a brand name palm nailer.
I almost bought a no name one at Menards way back when we were renovating our house but I figured it would blow up on the 31st day and I would be stuck with a paper weight.
I will have to look up what Metabo/HPTs warranty is.
I still don't understand that rebrand.
"We bought a middle of the pack power tool brand. Let's use our high end brand on them but not beef up the design any.
No way that will dilute the value of our brand right?"
Neat idea
The tool truck at my work has them on it. Pretty cool
Thats a pretty neat tool! 137$ doesn't seem that bad either for what it is
well you dispelled the notion of some of the applications I was thinking of. But I guess really specialized and repeat processes on certain bolts. Maybe Assembly line work?
I was JUST THINKING about something like this. Well, more like welding the end of an auger to a socket and seeing what happens, but this looks way safer and better!
Love the creativity!
man i just saw those for sale not long ago and was like sic, of course he had something to do with it haha love astro so underrated, so many guys at auto school never heard of em
Dude, Ridgid used to make a tool literally called the "palm impact screwdriver"
Since they stopped making them, their value has gone off the rails.
On eBay, they're selling for up to $300. New they were $99(?)
I found one at a pawn shop, and got lucky, getting it for $60 with charger and battery
Morning fellahs
Good morning
I bought a palm nailer from Harbor Freight. Haven't used it much but it's sure nice in tight areas.
I liked the "...and ugga-dugga away".
Made me exhale through the nose a little.
No coffee on the keyboard though. Still nice.
Ridgid used to make a palm impact driver, R8224.
Next version of the palm impact should be a bit more ergonomic for the holding orientation. Maybe also move the valve lever to where the thumb would be, then make the design to where the valve module can pop off and be reversed to make the tool ambidextrous; so that the other hand can be freed up, as not every fastener goes into a rigid block after all, sometimes you need a wrench in your other hand. With a sizable lever and the thumb's finer movement, it shouldn't be too difficult to feather the valve if you don't want all the beans. Alternatively, a palm-actuated valve, more pressure means more power, I remember some electric screwdriver AvE reviewed doing something similar to this, but that kind of activation makes more sense within this context; I also don't really foresee an issue with this kind of valve implementation as the tool will always be palmed, it also frees the thumb again for better grip on the tool. Palm tools are interesting, but I think they need a bit more design work considering we're all used to holding some kind of handle; square-backed tools, with sharper corners and no contours, like we see on handle-based guns, just aren't all that ergonomic for palming a tool, nor is it ergonomic for a claw-like grip.
This was a super fun video, thanks!
I have an air palm nailer and have only used it a few times. I've grown to haaaaate using air tools. Being on both m12 and skil 12v, I'm really interested in a comparison of that m12 nailer vs the Skil 12v 'Auto Hammer'. To me, the form factor of the Skil looks more functional, and if it's even close to the m12, that would cement my decision.
Agreed, I think the skil auto hammer is a sweet tool, and would love to see it tested here
Lets see who can come up with the best slogan for the TTC
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I've been an Engineer for nearly 35 years, and the Intellectual Property (IP) Agreements that employees sign states that any idea you come up with during the period of employment working for a given company is theirs. This is true for what you develop at their office, while commuting to/from, or even what you think of at night when you're sleeping or on vacation. So things are pretty well locked down. The only way to get real credit and income from a patent is to a) be self employed and not work for anyone, b) come up with your own idea, c) perform all the IP "prior art" research, d) employ your own IP Attorney, and so forth. It's a bitch!!
Often times, just coming up with an idea and getting credit for it, is the best one can hope for. I'd be impressed if TTC got a bonus or other perc. Being Engineers isn't as easy as many think.
Love the channel and your contributions to the community!
That palm impact looks like a game changer for something. I bet there are a couple jobs that this thing would shave hours off of.
perhaps use a bolt in yer dyno with a 1/2" square hole so you can attach a 1/2" square anvil w/o using a socket. that way you can determine any loss due to the socket itself, perhaps find which brand is best at transferring torque to the load
I WANT THIS NOW! I want a TTC Meatball (yes, its what Im calling it!)
Congrats. I know it feels good just being part of advancements, and watch other companies take your idea and run....You probably could have patented this, and make a buck or at least get formal recognition.
A patent just makes the tool cost more, which helps no one
@@TorqueTestChannel Not always. I tried patenting a process (less tool related) but GE came in and stole it (long story), and now its not being used at all. A patent can block, but also ensure an idea makes it out there. I still think its cool that they made your idea, and will be ordering it from your link, so you get something!
@@RipRoaringGarage Haha, only order it if you see it being useful to you! These are tools after all
@@TorqueTestChannel @Torque Test Channel I love tools, so its no skin off my back...ok, well 140 bucks worth but its worth it. By supporting the sales, they may be more inclined to take you up in the future for another idea! And yes, I totally see this working on rusted exhaust manifold bolts. Its a great idea, and I see the TTC Meatball becoming a tool thats in every technicians toolbox!
Skilz have a Auto Hammer, it's cordless, airless and is a battery operated air hammer.... need to have more reviews before purchasing one. Seen videos of people knocking out control arms off of vehicles with it.
really just made an entire new tool
I am not a mechanic. Just a home workshop guy. My front line tools are 1/2 impact and Milwaukee 1/4 bit impact. Ive been planning on buying a 3/8 socket impact as I use the 3/8 adapter on the Milwaukee more than any other tool. But there are A LOT of places where the 1/4 is a tad too long. Frustrating. This will come first and may even eliminate the need for the 3/8 electric
Eric O is gonna be ecstatic
when your such a bad ass you make your own tools hell yeah
That’s crazy that Astro actually made that after it was suggested
Would love to see different brands of palm nailers
I want one of those
Test idea:
Test which grinders/cutoff tools cut rubber horse stall mat best while using a standard cutting wheel.
it will be so cool on video...........
We're building a digital dyno for die grinders right now!
@@TorqueTestChannel Cool,But you never tried cutting a horse stall mat...did you? it liquefies the rubber...tons of smoke...makes nearly any grinder overheat....try it!
Dude! You invented a new tool, and the company was line... "K... thanks. [disappears into the hedge.jpg]"
It's my job
@@TorqueTestChannel Ah, not too bad then... I thought you had a different job, and they were just like watching your videos to "borrow" ideas. XD
Great video and I like the remote air valve. I worked at a place that had a 1 inch drive and the air valve was on the back of a handle and the nut on the u bolt loosened and pined his hand to the concrete with the air valve full open. Luckily someone heard him yelling and turned the air off at the wall. I don't remember how you changed directions on it but it messed up his hand a little bit.
OH! very nice, I want one. But 160+60 dollar to get it here is a bit steep and switching jobs soon. So next year I know if need to get one. But man such a good idea!
It's $120 right now at CPO not sure what shipping it though so probably works out about the same. Seriously considering picking on up as I seem to find myself working on forklifts lately and they are not built bolt removal in mind. Don't know why they don't just weld everything in would be only slightly more of a PITA to work on... that's sarcasm folks.
Very good idea.. no doubt this could be "handy"...I'm definitely going to buy one...☝️
Harbor freight palm nailer. My deck building best friend
Some cool stuff, I have been running the p air palm nailer for a few years
Strange that no cordless manufacturers ever made remote battery tools. 'The post apocalyptic inventor' converted a few old drills to remote battery.
Seems like that nailer could be smaller with a clip on battery pack on his belt. And with more capacity too.