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One of my all time favourite bands. Anything with Criss Oliva gets my vote! Criminally underrated guitar player that turned down the Megadeth job to concentrate on Savatage. What a player.
@@TheRealProdigyMany years ago I read it in an interview. Criss decided he wanted to carry on furthering the career of Savatage. Mustaine has since denied the rumour, but I remember the rumour and the interview. So who knows 😂
1. Gutter Ballet (1989) 2. Hall of The Mountain King (1987) 3. Streets: A Rock Opera (1991) 4. Sirens/The Dungeons Are Calling (1983/1984) 5. Edge of Thorns (1993) 6. The Wake of Magellan (1997) 7. Power of the Night (1985) 8. Poets and Madmen (2001) 9. Dead Winter Dead (1995) 10. Handful of Rain (1994) 11. Fight for The Rock (1986)
One of the forerunners of Symphonic Metal and the poets of Heavy Music. Savatage is pure gold. Just a few bands with such big catalogue have a discography so consistent. I mean, all their albums are awesome! "The Wake of Magellan" and "The Hall of the Mountain King" are their peak, imo! Great list, dude!
Hall of the Mountain King, Gutter Ballet, Edge of Thorns and Dead Winter Dead are my favorite Savatage albums. Criss Oliva is another great underrated guitarist and his brother Jon is an awesome vocalist. I also like Zac Stevens. I met Zac Stevens and Jeff Plate one time and they were cool. RIP Criss Oliva.
Hey, many thanks for this. I did not think much of Savatage except as some kind of guilty pleasure in the 90s but really came to appreciate them since then. Top list!
I know it sounds different than their other albums (and it doesn't have Chris Oliva), but "Handful of Rain" is awesome in my opinion. Top 3 in Savatage's discography, IMO.
Alright, my Ranking. 12: Fight for the Rock 11: Poets and Madmen 10: Handful of Rain 9: Sirens 8: Dead Winter Dead 7: Power of the Night 6: The Wake of Magellan 5: Streets: A Rock Opera 4: The Dungeons are calling 3: Gutter Ballet 2: Edge of Thorns 1: Hall of the Mountain King
#1-Mt. King, #2-Gutter, #3-Power of the Night, #4-Sirens, #5-Dungeons(EP or not, it belongs), #6-Streets 'Devastation' off Mt. King, 'Mentally Yours', 'Hounds' off Ballet, and 'City Beneath the Surface' off Dungeons are ALL GREAT songs
Great video as usual! I feel like you took your time to share your impressions on the records which is awesome! As for Savatage, I consider them an amazing all killer no filler band (an honor shared with King Diamond and a few others). I've been listening to Edge of Thorns a lot these past years. It has a really haunting atmosphere, it kind of foreshadowed the darkness that was to come.
Great band. Remember buying the "Power of the night" album back in 1985. I was 20 years old and buyed the album only becouse of the albumcover that looks Metal. Its still my favorite by the band. But everyone is good.😁🤘
never really got into them… but honestly i never really listened to them either… but… but i‘m just streaming the sirens album… it seems that i freaking love it! cheers
I was late to the game with Savatage. Never heard them back in tbe 80s and really didn't check them out until about 10 years ago when I bought Hall Of The Mountain King on a whim. Incredible album and an excellent band. They've been re-releasing their albums on vinyl lately and they're fantastic reissues.
Yes! Thanks so much for ranking my 5th favorite band Savatage! I have been into them since Edge Of Thorns (first album I heard and my favorite from them) dropped in '93 on a local radio station! I honestly feel they have not put out a bad album in their whole career. And I also know and listen to the other side projects from the different members as well. Trans-Siberian Orchestra which I've seen live back in '08 were absolutely incredible! I also love Jon Oliva's Pain and Zak Stevens "Circle II Circle" Please next do 3 of my other favorite bands "Fates Warning" "Dream Theater" and "Symphony X" Keep up the great work man and keep the metal! \,,/
Love Savatage. Hall of the Mountain King is just one of those great 80’s US Power Metal Records. Also love their debut LP, Sirens, and their criminally underrated EP The Dungeons are calling. Criss Oliva (RIP) was a total riff master on top of being an excellent lead guitarist. We lost a true icon when he tragically passed away.
Eugh, saw a few Savatage cassettes in a store a while ago and didn't pick them up for whatever reason! Oh well. Another good video man always like watching these
Love Savatage, one of the best metal bands ever. The guitar tone of HotMK drew me to them, such a special sound! Criss was one of the best, period! The Criss era albums are all amazing. But Jon is the real mastermind here, especially in combination with Paul O'Neill. Any Savatage song is instantly recognizable.
I just got an original release Hall Of The Mountain King and I have to say few albums give such a powerful and awesome experience as this. The riffs are pure genius I just wish I could sing along better with the epic vocals lol
1. Sirens 2. Power of the Night/Dungeons are calling 3. Hall Of The Mountain King 4. Gutter Ballet 5. The Wake Of Magellan 6. Edge Of Thorns 7. Streets: A Rock Opera 8. Fight For The Rock The later albums I’ve ran through only once so I need to revisit them. As such, I don’t feel fair in ranking them. The above albums I’ve listened to several times however and have always gone back to. Even though I recognize The Wake Of Magellan is walking away for the most part of that heavy sound, there’s a lot of solid moments in several of the songs and I have a personal bias toward any music that includes themes of the ocean and sailing, so I really enjoyed that. It definitely has a more sentimental vibe mixed in there which I really enjoy. I also love concept albums and those that tell a story in general. Savatage is one of my many bands I always go back to and it’s something like a muse to get through the challenges of life. If a band can do that, it’s a really great gem. I ranked Fight For The Rock as last since I logically see it as lesser in comparison as it’s definitely got that commercial sound. However, there’s at least 2 tracks on that album that comes off strong and redeeming in my opinion which is Red Light Paradise and Hyde. You have to realize that the more commercial albums can be beneficial such as Queensryche’s Operation: Mindcrime because it helps get people INTO the band in the first place. Musical taste is something that has to be built upon so you have to start from some point to reach a higher level of understanding for older and more “difficult” albums to break into. Plus if you’re to the point like me of being autistic with how far you go to analyze the lyrics and riffs and over symbolism and message of the music you really have to build your palate to that point. I always try to be fair with the lesser albums and avoid saying it “sucks,” etc basically. Although we can all agree that pop/mainstream music does suck. 😅
My favourite albums: Hall of the mountain king, Gutter ballet, Dead winter dead I also hope that rumors are true, and that they will actually record new album. Altough there were no news about it since the end of 2021.
Great video. Although I completed dropped Savatage after Hall of the Mountain King at the time,I feel as if I may have wrote them off too soon. I bought Power of the Night about 6 months after it came out from the cutout bin for $1.99 so in my heart that one will always be my #1 since its my introduction to them. I remember hearing bits of stuff after Hall and thinking wtf happened here? Horns and broadway show tunes,lol. I guess its time to revisit the "chorus line" lps. Cheers
Good list; hard to argue with Mountain King as their best. I'd put Gutter and Streets in 2 and 3, but Sirens/Dungeons (I grew up with a release that put them together as 1 CD) is right up there. I frankly need to spend more time with Power Of The Night. I prefer the albums with Chris on guitar and Jon on vocals; Zack was good, but he also sounded like 20 other late 80s/early 90s metal singers. That said, I do really like Dead Winter Dead. The albums after that (Magellan and Poets) sound more like TSO and I always wondered why they even bothered releasing them as Savatage given that TSO was in full force by then.
I’m very partial to Edge of Thorns! Great vocals, songwriting and melodies. Started listening to them around the time of Power and loved Dungeons as well. Fight for the Rock was a big departure at the time and kept me away for a few years.
Pretty good ranking. Close to mine. 11.) Poets and Madmen 10.) Fight For the Rock 9.) Handful of Rain 8.) Dead Winter Dead 7.) Wake of Magellan 6.) Power of the Night 5.) Sirens/Dungeons 4.) Edge of Thorns 3.) Streets 2.) Gutter Ballet 1.) Hall of the Mountain King
Poets & Madmen is not a concept album in the strictest sense. It was just supposed to be a regular album but I guess someone got he idea to tie in the songs with a concept story arc. If you read the liner notes that tells the story and then look at the lyrics and listen to the songs, you can tell this is just a "concept" album "in name only". Fight For The Rock is seriously under-rated and not nearly as bad as anyone (including the band) say it is. The covers are not that bad, if only in hindsight (at the time they probably definitely would have been ignored by me when I was a "metal snob" and only liked the heavy stuff). The good songs on the album are GOOD and make up for the weaker ones. TSO is not a "continuation" of Savatage, cos Savatage still carried on alongside TSO. TSO is more like a "spin-off". Jon Oliva's Pain (JOP) is more like the "continuation" of Savatage, as Criss' unfinished and demo ideas were used in these albums, especially towards the end when the final album was released simply under the name "Oliva" (2013's Raise The Curtain). Streets is technically not supposed to include the "A Rock Opera" subtitle. It was just a description that producer Paul O'Neill made on the music sheets or track list (for Atlantic's reference) , and it was assumed to be part of the title. The two versions of Jesus Saves should have been included on the "narrative" reissue, NOT replace the BETTER one with the "original demo" arrangement. I find the original released heavy version the best to open the album with (after the title track, of course), and the longer "gospel" version works excellently as a reprise to close out the album. I'll never understand why it was not done that way, cos screwing the album and the fans out of the heavy version of the song is a crime. The Dungeons Are Calling should have been the debut release, since it was an EP, but I understand it was only an EP cos it was the "leftover" songs that the label at the time refused to allow included on Sirens without making the album a "double-length". So technically, TDAC is a "Sirens Part II" release, and should be included with Sirens when Sirens is reviewed, and not excluded just cos of its EP status. Eventually, it was finally re-released as one complete album (around 2010 or 2011, as part of the EarMUISC box set that released all the albums individually - in a jumbled order ; totally stupid move, btw - and the CD title spines formed the Savatage logo in red set against a black field). Personally, I Believe (Sirens track 3 pun intended) that they should have used TDAC as the collective title, not Sirens. But I suppose it's a small consolation that both titles were used, separated by a forward-slash - make all fans happy, I guess, haha.
Yes, TSO is not a continuation because Savatage continued on but you know what I meant. But Dungeons was released as a separate thing. Thinkgs don't always go as planned but you dont call Sabbath's Seventh Star a Tony Iommi album even if that was the intention when they recorded it. :) Cheers!
I like your list, except I would move "Gutter Ballet" up to number 2, and I would move "Poets and Madmen" up above "Wake of Magellan." I don't think Savatage recorded a bad album, and I enjoy the progressive, symphonic elements, hence why I put "Gutter Ballet" at number two. I also think "Poets and Madmen" is a very underrated album with some killer songs.
Such an underrated band…savatage is a genius metal band!..its so sad and very devastating for me when Cris Oliva died at a very young age…their album Edge of Thorn …one of the best metal album i have ever heard!
Yesss Probably So many of yours followers and suscribes wait for this rank. Savatage is like old vine.. Early records have got that vibe and mood i prefer so much. Now I recomend to rank Candellmass again.. Keep strong and stay in tune like always.. ♣️🤘👂
I rarely listen to live albums at all. I just prefer the studio sound in general so. But who knows, maybe I'll take some time and get into it, we'll see.
Well, I'm not too familiar with all of their discography, but I've at least heard something from each of their albums anyway. So, of the stuff I know, though I truly love "Hall Of The Mountain King" to bits, that's still my runner-up; my favourite Savatage album is instead "Gutter Ballet" (also one of my favourite albums ever, metal or not). I feel "GB" is the perfect balance between their early power metal and later symphonic periods. I still think "HOTMK" is basically perfect, but "GB" is just on another level for me: it's equally fast, heavy, powerful, violent, majestic, sophisticated, captivating, haunted, profound... Also, I found "Power Of The Night" a bit disappointing as nothing from it really stood out for me and isn't a great-sounding album. As for "Sirens", I found it a bit too unripe overall (though there are some indisputable masterpieces there), also the production was somewhat unrefined, which doesn't help. I agree that "The Dungeons Are Calling" deserves mentioning, as some stuff on that is ridiculously good.
A friend of mine was working for WEA at the time. I asked him for a copy of Magellan (we would trade since I worked for PGD) and he asked if I wanted the whole box! 😂 Weird time to be into metal. Excellent band, excellent list.
I'd rank HOTMK, Gutter Ballet, Edge Of Thorns then Streets. Gutter Ballet is superb. Tracks like Hounds, Thorazine Shuffle, She's In Love are all stellar. Criss Oliva is easily one of my all-time top guitar players and criminally under rated.
Great band! My ranking: 1. Hall of the Mountain King, 2. Sirens (and Dungeons are Calling), 3. Power of the Night, 4. Edge of Thorns, 5. Gutter Ballet, 6. Handful of Rain, 7. Fight for the Rock, 8. Dead Winter Dead, 9. Streets, 10. Poets and Madmen, 11. Wake of Magellan
Probably my all time favorite band. I actually prefer their 90’s material better than their earlier albums. Dead winter dead, Streets and gutter ballet being my favorites. But do love all.
Sirens,The Dungeons Are Calling,Hall Of The Mountain King and Streets My Favorite albums...Chris one of the best guitar player..with Randy Rhoads and David Pritchard...🤘
1. Streets 2. Edge of Thorns 3. Sirens 4. Dungeons are Calling 5. Dead Winter Dead 6. Handful of Rain 7. Power of the Night 8. Fight for the Rock 9. Hall of the Mountain King 10. Gutter Ballet 11. Wake of Magellan 12. Poets and Madmen
I liked Savatage when they were a power metal band on their earlier releases. I had bought The Dungeons Are Calling when I was a teen in the 80s only because of the Combat record label it was on, because a lot of the albums I was buying were bands on the Combat label kicked ass. I didn't care for their whole symphonic metal change. I heard a manager of theirs took the singer to an opera or something, and that put that seed in the singer's head to start up with that change. That manager should be pimp slapped. Sirens is awesome.
That's Paul O'Neill and he shouldnt be pimp slapped because without him they would have no financing of Hall of the Mountain King and Gutter Ballet for example.
Lyssnade av en händels på Poets and Madmen för första ggn idag. Vr överraskad av några av riffen här och där som var riktigt tunga och stack ut. Annars var plattan en 3/5 enligt mig.
I was so sure I knew your least favorite was going to be 'Fight for the Rock'... and I was so WRONG. 😁 'Gutter Ballet' brought Savatage into my life as a teen, and I suspect that's why I've always loved the later and more symphonic albums. I believe 'Streets: A Rock Opera', together with Queensryche's 'Operation: Mindcrime', are the two most listened to albums in my entire music collection. To me, the earlier and more metal sounding Savatage albums (which I obviously discovered AFTER Gutter Ballet had blown me away) always felt a bit simplistic to me. Not "bad" of course, but never as interesting as the more symphonic and bombastic stuff, and that feeling just never went away. I even adore 'Dead Winter Dead'. The first ten minutes of that album ranks among the greatest album openings I've ever experienced, and I think Zak really delivers a dynamic and fantastic vocal performance here. Not many vocalists do "silky smooth" quite like Zak Stevens, and I think his harsher (and often far from perfect) delivery is great as well, like when he steps it up a couple of notches at the end of 'He Carves His Stone' on Edge of Thorns. A raw and gloriously tormented barrage of vocals that I've only come to appreciate more over the years. So, yeah... I guess I'm pretty much diametrically opposite to how most hardcore Sava fans feel about the discography. 😆
There are a few that I barely listen to I almost always go with the top 7 or so Savatage albums when I listen to them. Yeah the early Savatage wasn't as unique as later SAVATAGE. THAT'S FOR SURE. Cheers!
1. Hall OTMK, 2. Gutter ballet, 3. Streets... All the others. Would rate Power of the night quite lowinsh though. Title track is AMAZING, other than that, it really didn't grab me. Also Jon O is my favourite singer by far! His voice is like a drug to me
I absolutely love the more symphonic albums, and my rank would be: 1 - Dead Winter Dead 2 - The Wake of Magellan 3 - Handful of Rain 4 - Hall of the Mountain King 5 - Edge of Thorns 6 - Streets - A Rock Opera 7 - Gutter Ballet 8 - Power of the Night 9 - Sirens 10 - Poets and Madmen 11 - The Dungeons are Calling 12 - Fight for the Rock
Do you enjoy Machine Head? I just bought myself a ticket to see them live for the first time this coming December 🤘 just an idea but it be cool to see your opinion on their albums. They've had different lineups and sounds over the years too.
Hey, for $35, to see Machine Head and all their different line ups (at least that's what they're saying. Not sure 100% but regardless) play for 4 hours? To be that cheap? Why not? 😁🤘 It's at a kick ass bar/venue here in downtown Charleston which I've been to before not that long ago to see GWAR so I couldn't pass the opportunity up! 😁🤘
my favorites are Power of the Night, Hall of the Mountain King, and Dungeons are Calling. Sirens is second only because of the terrible Twisted Little Sister aka going down, down, down to the Penitentiary. My top 3 are equal. Favorite songs Unusual Sirens Beyond the Doors of the Dark Grace of the Witch Scream Murder 24 Hours Ago Midas Knight Fountain of Youth Hall of the Mountain King I Believe Hyde Gutter Ballet Hounds Edge of Thorns No Downtown Jesus, or Dead Winter Dead really do it for me, but I don't hate their Rock Opera albums, just not my preference. I used to own the complete Savatage catalog, but decided to donate them to the Pawn shop because I just never listened to them often enough
"The Dungeons Are Calling" may be an EP, but it's still 6 original songs w/a running time of 25 minutes. Maybe 1 song away from qualifying as a LP. I would rank it 2nd overall, I like your rankings, but I would switch FFTR with The Wake of Magellan. True, FFTR was disappointing, but they showed signs of this with a few tracks on POTN as they were pressured by their label to go in a more radio friendly direction, but it's still the Olivas in their prime, just not their best effort. \m/
Really? I expected Poets and Madmen to be at the lowest rank, but it surprised me to see it at the very last. For me, I would change position with Fight for the Rock. But of course, it’s a matter of personal taste. I do love the concept albums; that said, I agree With Hall of The Mountain King a the top, but my second favorite is Streets: A Rock opera. The rest will depend on my mood, but the first two and the last two remain. R.I.P Criss Oliva one of my favorite guitar players of all time… I really though it was over for Savatage when he died, but even though it wasn’t the same, I’m glad they kept making music.
Yeah I generally like the sound of several of them but I don't feel as invested in them as I do with the bands that came before them. I did a documentary on the wave. called New Wave of Metal, check it out!
Despite what others say, including the band, I really like Fight For The Rock. Sure, I could do without the two covers and the poor production, but I would still rather listen to that over the Zak Stevens era albums. 1.Hall Of The Mountain King 2. Sirens 3. Gutter Ballet 4. Power Of The Night 5. Streets 6. Fight or The Rock 7. Wake Of Magellan 8. Poets And Madmen 9. Dead Winter Dead 10. Handful Of Rain 11. Edge Of Thorns
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One of my all time favourite bands. Anything with Criss Oliva gets my vote! Criminally underrated guitar player that turned down the Megadeth job to concentrate on Savatage. What a player.
Yes, Top 5 metal guitarists of all time!
His guitar work on Hall of the Mountain king is awesome.
Is that statement about Megadeth true
@@TheRealProdigyMany years ago I read it in an interview. Criss decided he wanted to carry on furthering the career of Savatage. Mustaine has since denied the rumour, but I remember the rumour and the interview. So who knows 😂
MADNESS REEEEEEEEEEIGNS!
In the Hall of the Mountain King !
@@jakrac2790 no no no no no no no
In the Haaaalll......... Of the Mountain KING!!! 🤘🤘
Nice ranking! Hall of the Mountain King is one of my favorite albums ever, such a classic!
Thank you Sir. Yes, it's near perfect. Cheers!
1. Gutter Ballet (1989)
2. Hall of The Mountain King (1987)
3. Streets: A Rock Opera (1991)
4. Sirens/The Dungeons Are Calling (1983/1984)
5. Edge of Thorns (1993)
6. The Wake of Magellan (1997)
7. Power of the Night (1985)
8. Poets and Madmen (2001)
9. Dead Winter Dead (1995)
10. Handful of Rain (1994)
11. Fight for The Rock (1986)
Solid list there good Sir! Cheers!
One of the forerunners of Symphonic Metal and the poets of Heavy Music. Savatage is pure gold. Just a few bands with such big catalogue have a discography so consistent. I mean, all their albums are awesome! "The Wake of Magellan" and "The Hall of the Mountain King" are their peak, imo! Great list, dude!
Thank you Sir! Cheers!
I literally just discovered this band
Perfect timing
Indeed! Cheers!
Hall of the Mountain King, Gutter Ballet, Edge of Thorns and Dead Winter Dead are my favorite Savatage albums. Criss Oliva is another great underrated guitarist and his brother Jon is an awesome vocalist. I also like Zac Stevens. I met Zac Stevens and Jeff Plate one time and they were cool. RIP Criss Oliva.
Good stuff. :) Cheers!
These my 4 favorite albums too
Hey, many thanks for this. I did not think much of Savatage except as some kind of guilty pleasure in the 90s but really came to appreciate them since then. Top list!
Thank you Sir. Say hi to Guybrush from me. ;)
@@RuthlessMetalYT will do, just returning to monkey island
One of my all time favourite bands, so damn consistent
For sure. Cheers!
I know it sounds different than their other albums (and it doesn't have Chris Oliva), but "Handful of Rain" is awesome in my opinion. Top 3 in Savatage's discography, IMO.
Yes, pretty much every Savatage album has their moments. Cheers!
Its a pretty good album and best song is the closer "alone you breathe" is my favorite on it
I consider Handful of rain such an underated album. On my list I place it at least top 5. Great video as always! \m/
Cheers
Alright, my Ranking.
12: Fight for the Rock
11: Poets and Madmen
10: Handful of Rain
9: Sirens
8: Dead Winter Dead
7: Power of the Night
6: The Wake of Magellan
5: Streets: A Rock Opera
4: The Dungeons are calling
3: Gutter Ballet
2: Edge of Thorns
1: Hall of the Mountain King
Good stuff! Cheers!
Love Savatage! Have got to see them and hang out with them many times. Been a fan since the mid-80s. Damn I'm old.
Yes you are. ;) Must have been some cool times. :) Cheers!
#1-Mt. King, #2-Gutter, #3-Power of the Night, #4-Sirens, #5-Dungeons(EP or not, it belongs), #6-Streets
'Devastation' off Mt. King, 'Mentally Yours', 'Hounds' off Ballet, and 'City Beneath the Surface' off Dungeons are ALL GREAT songs
Good stuff! Cheers!
Criss' guitar playing on Edge Of Thorns is so good, it's frightening.
Yes, absolutely amazing!
Great video as usual! I feel like you took your time to share your impressions on the records which is awesome! As for Savatage, I consider them an amazing all killer no filler band (an honor shared with King Diamond and a few others). I've been listening to Edge of Thorns a lot these past years. It has a really haunting atmosphere, it kind of foreshadowed the darkness that was to come.
Thank you Sir, Edge of Thorns is one of the best metal records of the 90's. Cheers!
A nice one, one more time! I totally agree with the top1 spot but I would rank all the others differently, haha. Thank you man, take care! \m/
hehe, nice, thank you Sir. Cheers!
Great band. Remember buying the "Power of the night" album back in 1985. I was 20 years old and buyed the album only becouse of the albumcover that looks Metal. Its still my favorite by the band. But everyone is good.😁🤘
Solid choice! Cheers!
never really got into them… but honestly i never really listened to them either… but… but i‘m just streaming the sirens album… it seems that i freaking love it! cheers
You got some good times ahead of you then. Most of their albums are excellent. Cheers!
The best band in the world. My favorite band...
🤘🤘
I was late to the game with Savatage. Never heard them back in tbe 80s and really didn't check them out until about 10 years ago when I bought Hall Of The Mountain King on a whim. Incredible album and an excellent band. They've been re-releasing their albums on vinyl lately and they're fantastic reissues.
Me too, my neighbour was a huge Savatage fan but he liked so much over-melodic stuff so I kinda disregarded them way too early. Cheers!
Great list! Still waiting for Death Angel ranking, I believe it might be the only band from the Bay area which you haven't done yet haha
I haven't done Defiance. ;)
Ah, one of my favorite bands. Glad to see we get to the same number one!
nice. :) Same here. Cheers!
MADNESS REIGNS!!! HAHAHA! In the hall of the Mountain king! Great suff Ruthless, love Savatage.
Thank you good Sir. Cheers!
Yes! Thanks so much for ranking my 5th favorite band Savatage! I have been into them since Edge Of Thorns (first album I heard and my favorite from them) dropped in '93 on a local radio station! I honestly feel they have not put out a bad album in their whole career. And I also know and listen to the other side projects from the different members as well. Trans-Siberian Orchestra which I've seen live back in '08 were absolutely incredible! I also love Jon Oliva's Pain and Zak Stevens "Circle II Circle"
Please next do 3 of my other favorite bands "Fates Warning" "Dream Theater" and "Symphony X" Keep up the great work man and keep the metal! \,,/
Thank you Sir. Cheers!
Amazing band thanks for great video 😊
Thank you good Sir!
Great list! My ranking wouldn't necessarily be the same, but pretty close with Mountain King for sure being number one. Great job, I enjoyed it.
Thanks boss. Cheers!
Another great, in depth video
Thank you Sir!
@@RuthlessMetalYT My pleasure
“In aDream” off of Power of the Night is one of my favorite Ballads of any band Ever. Hits me hard every time.🤘🏻
good stuff, Cheers!
Good band, good video and best channel🤘
Thank you!
There is this song 'Before I Hang' that was only on a Japanese release which is just amazing for those who've never heard of it.
Cheers!
Love your ranking videos! Can get enough of them.
Thanks boss! Cheers!
Love Savatage. Hall of the Mountain King is just one of those great 80’s US Power Metal Records. Also love their debut LP, Sirens, and their criminally underrated EP The Dungeons are calling. Criss Oliva (RIP) was a total riff master on top of being an excellent lead guitarist. We lost a true icon when he tragically passed away.
We sure did. RIP Criss.
Greate ranking!!!! my song forever " Scream Murder" from the Sirens Album 1983
Great song!
Cheers.
Got a soft spot for Power o.t. night. Might be, because I bought it, when it came out.
Rest is very similar to my ranking.
Greetings
Good stuff. Cheers!
Power of the Night !
I saw them in a small club on the Mountain tour, Trouble opened.
Cheers!
Eugh, saw a few Savatage cassettes in a store a while ago and didn't pick them up for whatever reason! Oh well. Another good video man always like watching these
Go back there now! ;)
🤘I have search this band, i don´t hear this band🤘thankx ranked🤘
thank you, yeah SAvatage is awesome. Absolutely essential listening. :) Cheers PS I have a Savatage playlist on Spotify. check the links. ;)
@@RuthlessMetalYT 🤘great🤘
open.spotify.com/playlist/2GsjWjomxZvhPcu2FSGhZn?si=7a79b6824b694ddd
Love Savatage, one of the best metal bands ever. The guitar tone of HotMK drew me to them, such a special sound! Criss was one of the best, period! The Criss era albums are all amazing.
But Jon is the real mastermind here, especially in combination with Paul O'Neill. Any Savatage song is instantly recognizable.
I agree. Cheers!
I just got an original release Hall Of The Mountain King and I have to say few albums give such a powerful and awesome experience as this. The riffs are pure genius I just wish I could sing along better with the epic vocals lol
Yes, it's a masterpiece.
1. Sirens
2. Power of the Night/Dungeons are calling
3. Hall Of The Mountain King
4. Gutter Ballet
5. The Wake Of Magellan
6. Edge Of Thorns
7. Streets: A Rock Opera
8. Fight For The Rock
The later albums I’ve ran through only once so I need to revisit them. As such, I don’t feel fair in ranking them. The above albums I’ve listened to several times however and have always gone back to. Even though I recognize The Wake Of Magellan is walking away for the most part of that heavy sound, there’s a lot of solid moments in several of the songs and I have a personal bias toward any music that includes themes of the ocean and sailing, so I really enjoyed that. It definitely has a more sentimental vibe mixed in there which I really enjoy. I also love concept albums and those that tell a story in general. Savatage is one of my many bands I always go back to and it’s something like a muse to get through the challenges of life. If a band can do that, it’s a really great gem. I ranked Fight For The Rock as last since I logically see it as lesser in comparison as it’s definitely got that commercial sound. However, there’s at least 2 tracks on that album that comes off strong and redeeming in my opinion which is Red Light Paradise and Hyde. You have to realize that the more commercial albums can be beneficial such as Queensryche’s Operation: Mindcrime because it helps get people INTO the band in the first place. Musical taste is something that has to be built upon so you have to start from some point to reach a higher level of understanding for older and more “difficult” albums to break into. Plus if you’re to the point like me of being autistic with how far you go to analyze the lyrics and riffs and over symbolism and message of the music you really have to build your palate to that point. I always try to be fair with the lesser albums and avoid saying it “sucks,” etc basically. Although we can all agree that pop/mainstream music does suck. 😅
Cheers!
My favourite albums: Hall of the mountain king, Gutter ballet, Dead winter dead
I also hope that rumors are true, and that they will actually record new album. Altough there were no news about it since the end of 2021.
That would be something. Cheers!
Great video. Although I completed dropped Savatage after Hall of the Mountain King at the time,I feel as if I may have wrote them off too soon. I bought Power of the Night about 6 months after it came out from the cutout bin for $1.99 so in my heart that one will always be my #1 since its my introduction to them. I remember hearing bits of stuff after Hall and thinking wtf happened here? Horns and broadway show tunes,lol. I guess its time to revisit the "chorus line" lps. Cheers
Yes, you definitely need to check out Edge of Thorns and Streets. Two very different albums but both great in their own ways. Cheers!
One of my favorite bands, Hall of the Mountain King is a desert island disc, hope they release a new album soon. RIP Criss.
Definitely, but I don't think fo them as a one album band. :) Cheers!
@@RuthlessMetalYT Neither do I, I have all of their albums.
Great video. What is the music playing in the background during the review?
just some youtube audio library stuff. :) Cheers!
Good list; hard to argue with Mountain King as their best. I'd put Gutter and Streets in 2 and 3, but Sirens/Dungeons (I grew up with a release that put them together as 1 CD) is right up there. I frankly need to spend more time with Power Of The Night. I prefer the albums with Chris on guitar and Jon on vocals; Zack was good, but he also sounded like 20 other late 80s/early 90s metal singers. That said, I do really like Dead Winter Dead. The albums after that (Magellan and Poets) sound more like TSO and I always wondered why they even bothered releasing them as Savatage given that TSO was in full force by then.
Good stuff! Cheers!
Great video!!! Can't disagree with Hall being one of the best metal albums of the 80's !
For sure. Cheers!
I’m very partial to Edge of Thorns! Great vocals, songwriting and melodies. Started listening to them around the time of Power and loved Dungeons as well. Fight for the Rock was a big departure at the time and kept me away for a few years.
Yeah they got back on track again fortunately for us fans.
I agree with everything you've stated.
I think it's time for the Riot discography. What say you?
Maybe it is. :D Cheers!
Summon up the legions!
Cheers!
great video
Thank you Sir!
Pretty good ranking. Close to mine.
11.) Poets and Madmen
10.) Fight For the Rock
9.) Handful of Rain
8.) Dead Winter Dead
7.) Wake of Magellan
6.) Power of the Night
5.) Sirens/Dungeons
4.) Edge of Thorns
3.) Streets
2.) Gutter Ballet
1.) Hall of the Mountain King
Nice, Cheers!
I can understand why it's not your"CUP OF TEA..YEAH,A CUP OF TEA!"
hehe ;)
Power of the night and Sirens até the two Best ones for me. I like Poets and madman too.
Yeah, good stuff! 🤘
Poets & Madmen is not a concept album in the strictest sense. It was just supposed to be a regular album but I guess someone got he idea to tie in the songs with a concept story arc. If you read the liner notes that tells the story and then look at the lyrics and listen to the songs, you can tell this is just a "concept" album "in name only".
Fight For The Rock is seriously under-rated and not nearly as bad as anyone (including the band) say it is. The covers are not that bad, if only in hindsight (at the time they probably definitely would have been ignored by me when I was a "metal snob" and only liked the heavy stuff). The good songs on the album are GOOD and make up for the weaker ones.
TSO is not a "continuation" of Savatage, cos Savatage still carried on alongside TSO. TSO is more like a "spin-off".
Jon Oliva's Pain (JOP) is more like the "continuation" of Savatage, as Criss' unfinished and demo ideas were used in these albums, especially towards the end when the final album was released simply under the name "Oliva" (2013's Raise The Curtain).
Streets is technically not supposed to include the "A Rock Opera" subtitle. It was just a description that producer Paul O'Neill made on the music sheets or track list (for Atlantic's reference) , and it was assumed to be part of the title. The two versions of Jesus Saves should have been included on the "narrative" reissue, NOT replace the BETTER one with the "original demo" arrangement. I find the original released heavy version the best to open the album with (after the title track, of course), and the longer "gospel" version works excellently as a reprise to close out the album. I'll never understand why it was not done that way, cos screwing the album and the fans out of the heavy version of the song is a crime.
The Dungeons Are Calling should have been the debut release, since it was an EP, but I understand it was only an EP cos it was the "leftover" songs that the label at the time refused to allow included on Sirens without making the album a "double-length". So technically, TDAC is a "Sirens Part II" release, and should be included with Sirens when Sirens is reviewed, and not excluded just cos of its EP status. Eventually, it was finally re-released as one complete album (around 2010 or 2011, as part of the EarMUISC box set that released all the albums individually - in a jumbled order ; totally stupid move, btw - and the CD title spines formed the Savatage logo in red set against a black field). Personally, I Believe (Sirens track 3 pun intended) that they should have used TDAC as the collective title, not Sirens. But I suppose it's a small consolation that both titles were used, separated by a forward-slash - make all fans happy, I guess, haha.
Yes, TSO is not a continuation because Savatage continued on but you know what I meant. But Dungeons was released as a separate thing. Thinkgs don't always go as planned but you dont call Sabbath's Seventh Star a Tony Iommi album even if that was the intention when they recorded it. :) Cheers!
PERFECT RANKING ORDER OF A EXCELLENT BAND !!!
thanks boss
I like your list, except I would move "Gutter Ballet" up to number 2, and I would move "Poets and Madmen" up above "Wake of Magellan." I don't think Savatage recorded a bad album, and I enjoy the progressive, symphonic elements, hence why I put "Gutter Ballet" at number two. I also think "Poets and Madmen" is a very underrated album with some killer songs.
Yeah I agree with that, they are way to talented to call them bad even if a few of their albums are a bit outside the usual stuff I listen to. 🤘
Oh, such a great band!
Yes Sir. Cheers!
Such an underrated band…savatage is a genius metal band!..its so sad and very devastating for me when Cris Oliva died at a very young age…their album Edge of Thorn …one of the best metal album i have ever heard!
Yes, one of the absolute best but still somewhat underground.
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Yesss Probably So many of yours followers and suscribes wait for this rank. Savatage is like old vine.. Early records have got that vibe and mood i prefer so much. Now I recomend to rank Candellmass again.. Keep strong and stay in tune like always.. ♣️🤘👂
Yes it was time for some Savatage! :D Cheers!
Ghost in the ruins is a great live album. Maybe a ranking of live albums some time? 🤘
I rarely listen to live albums at all. I just prefer the studio sound in general so. But who knows, maybe I'll take some time and get into it, we'll see.
Well, I'm not too familiar with all of their discography, but I've at least heard something from each of their albums anyway. So, of the stuff I know, though I truly love "Hall Of The Mountain King" to bits, that's still my runner-up; my favourite Savatage album is instead "Gutter Ballet" (also one of my favourite albums ever, metal or not).
I feel "GB" is the perfect balance between their early power metal and later symphonic periods. I still think "HOTMK" is basically perfect, but "GB" is just on another level for me: it's equally fast, heavy, powerful, violent, majestic, sophisticated, captivating, haunted, profound...
Also, I found "Power Of The Night" a bit disappointing as nothing from it really stood out for me and isn't a great-sounding album. As for "Sirens", I found it a bit too unripe overall (though there are some indisputable masterpieces there), also the production was somewhat unrefined, which doesn't help. I agree that "The Dungeons Are Calling" deserves mentioning, as some stuff on that is ridiculously good.
Yes, they have a handful of masterpieces that's for sure. Cheers!
I think I would have put Edge of Thorns before Streets in my opinion. 🤘😎
Yeah, both are great albums in my book. :) Cheers!
A friend of mine was working for WEA at the time. I asked him for a copy of Magellan (we would trade since I worked for PGD) and he asked if I wanted the whole box! 😂 Weird time to be into metal. Excellent band, excellent list.
haha. nice. a box like that must be expensive these days. :D Cheers!
I'd rank HOTMK, Gutter Ballet, Edge Of Thorns then Streets. Gutter Ballet is superb. Tracks like Hounds, Thorazine Shuffle, She's In Love are all stellar. Criss Oliva is easily one of my all-time top guitar players and criminally under rated.
Same here. He deserves to be mentioned amongst the greats.
the dungeons are calling..my friends..🤘
That's for sure! Cheers! 🤘
Great band!
My ranking: 1. Hall of the Mountain King, 2. Sirens (and Dungeons are Calling), 3. Power of the Night, 4. Edge of Thorns, 5. Gutter Ballet, 6. Handful of Rain, 7. Fight for the Rock, 8. Dead Winter Dead, 9. Streets, 10. Poets and Madmen, 11. Wake of Magellan
Solid, Cheers!
Awesome Power Metal band, my favorite albums are Sirens and Hall of the Mountain King
Cheers!
Entombed would be cool one day! Cheers
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¡¡Savatage for life!!
Cheers!
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Probably my all time favorite band. I actually prefer their 90’s material better than their earlier albums. Dead winter dead, Streets and gutter ballet being my favorites. But do love all.
Good stuff! :) Cheers!
automatic like forever savatage¡¡¡¡¡¡¡🥰🤩😈🤘
Thank you Sir. Cheers! 🤘
Damn that’s a hard ranking! I get that savatage may not be the best metal ever but my god they had there time!
I think a handful of their albums really are up there amongst the best ever. Such a great band overall. Cheers!
Sirens,The Dungeons Are Calling,Hall Of The Mountain King and Streets My Favorite albums...Chris one of the best guitar player..with Randy Rhoads and David Pritchard...🤘
yes, a godlike guitar player.
1. Streets
2. Edge of Thorns
3. Sirens
4. Dungeons are Calling
5. Dead Winter Dead
6. Handful of Rain
7. Power of the Night
8. Fight for the Rock
9. Hall of the Mountain King
10. Gutter Ballet
11. Wake of Magellan
12. Poets and Madmen
Good stuff! Cheers!
From the later ones I dig Poets and Edge. Power, Sirens, and Hall are my top ones for sure
Good stuff!
Well done R.M. I would change.....nothing!🤘🍺
Thank you good Sir. Cheers! 🤘
I liked Savatage when they were a power metal band on their earlier releases. I had bought The Dungeons Are Calling when I was a teen in the 80s only because of the Combat record label it was on, because a lot of the albums I was buying were bands on the Combat label kicked ass. I didn't care for their whole symphonic metal change. I heard a manager of theirs took the singer to an opera or something, and that put that seed in the singer's head to start up with that change. That manager should be pimp slapped. Sirens is awesome.
That's Paul O'Neill and he shouldnt be pimp slapped because without him they would have no financing of Hall of the Mountain King and Gutter Ballet for example.
Lyssnade av en händels på Poets and Madmen för första ggn idag.
Vr överraskad av några av riffen här och där som var riktigt tunga och stack ut.
Annars var plattan en 3/5 enligt mig.
Har en polare som älskar den skivan så nått har man väl missat.
Recently bought all bought the new vinyl reissues amazing.
nice. the old ones are getting pricey though. Cheers!
I was so sure I knew your least favorite was going to be 'Fight for the Rock'... and I was so WRONG. 😁
'Gutter Ballet' brought Savatage into my life as a teen, and I suspect that's why I've always loved the later and more symphonic albums. I believe 'Streets: A Rock Opera', together with Queensryche's 'Operation: Mindcrime', are the two most listened to albums in my entire music collection. To me, the earlier and more metal sounding Savatage albums (which I obviously discovered AFTER Gutter Ballet had blown me away) always felt a bit simplistic to me. Not "bad" of course, but never as interesting as the more symphonic and bombastic stuff, and that feeling just never went away. I even adore 'Dead Winter Dead'. The first ten minutes of that album ranks among the greatest album openings I've ever experienced, and I think Zak really delivers a dynamic and fantastic vocal performance here. Not many vocalists do "silky smooth" quite like Zak Stevens, and I think his harsher (and often far from perfect) delivery is great as well, like when he steps it up a couple of notches at the end of 'He Carves His Stone' on Edge of Thorns. A raw and gloriously tormented barrage of vocals that I've only come to appreciate more over the years.
So, yeah... I guess I'm pretty much diametrically opposite to how most hardcore Sava fans feel about the discography. 😆
There are a few that I barely listen to I almost always go with the top 7 or so Savatage albums when I listen to them. Yeah the early Savatage wasn't as unique as later SAVATAGE. THAT'S FOR SURE. Cheers!
How about an Annihilator ranking list? Would love to see your opinions. :)
would be a boring rank since I only like 2-3 albums. hehe;) Cheers!
1. Hall OTMK, 2. Gutter ballet, 3. Streets... All the others. Would rate Power of the night quite lowinsh though. Title track is AMAZING, other than that, it really didn't grab me. Also Jon O is my favourite singer by far! His voice is like a drug to me
cheerios!
It's hard to rank Savatage albums because of the different eras of the band.
Yeah, and so much quality. Cheers!
@@RuthlessMetalYT Jon and Criss Oliva were musical geniuses.
I absolutely love the more symphonic albums, and my rank would be:
1 - Dead Winter Dead
2 - The Wake of Magellan
3 - Handful of Rain
4 - Hall of the Mountain King
5 - Edge of Thorns
6 - Streets - A Rock Opera
7 - Gutter Ballet
8 - Power of the Night
9 - Sirens
10 - Poets and Madmen
11 - The Dungeons are Calling
12 - Fight for the Rock
Nice, cheers!
Do you enjoy Machine Head? I just bought myself a ticket to see them live for the first time this coming December 🤘 just an idea but it be cool to see your opinion on their albums. They've had different lineups and sounds over the years too.
No, I think they are total garbage. haha
@@RuthlessMetalYT to each their own. Nothing wrong with that.
From the album "Through the Ashes of Empire" they are very interesting. And first album not so bad)
Hey, for $35, to see Machine Head and all their different line ups (at least that's what they're saying. Not sure 100% but regardless) play for 4 hours? To be that cheap? Why not? 😁🤘 It's at a kick ass bar/venue here in downtown Charleston which I've been to before not that long ago to see GWAR so I couldn't pass the opportunity up! 😁🤘
hehe, yeah. Cheers!
"Hall of the Mountain King" is a 10/10 amazing masterpiece. One of the best metal albums of all time!
For sure but they have several albums of that top class quality. Cheers!
Check out the Savatage Vinyl Re-releases by Edel Music!!!
"Hall...." is also my favorit, absolute Masterpiece!!!!
cheers
Next : Voivod Ranking 🤖🔥🤘 !!!
maybe some day. :) too many weird prog albums for my taste but hey. ;)
@@RuthlessMetalYT Yeah, that's exactly what's interesting about pushing the limits 👍🙂 !!!
my favorites are Power of the Night, Hall of the Mountain King, and Dungeons are Calling. Sirens is second only because of the terrible Twisted Little Sister aka going down, down, down to the Penitentiary. My top 3 are equal. Favorite songs
Unusual
Sirens
Beyond the Doors of the Dark
Grace of the Witch
Scream Murder
24 Hours Ago
Midas Knight
Fountain of Youth
Hall of the Mountain King
I Believe
Hyde
Gutter Ballet
Hounds
Edge of Thorns
No Downtown Jesus, or Dead Winter Dead really do it for me, but I don't hate their Rock Opera albums, just not my preference. I used to own the complete Savatage catalog, but decided to donate them to the Pawn shop because I just never listened to them often enough
Good stuff there! 🤘
"The Dungeons Are Calling" may be an EP, but it's still 6 original songs w/a running time of 25 minutes. Maybe 1 song away from qualifying as a LP. I would rank it 2nd overall, I like your rankings, but I would switch FFTR with The Wake of Magellan. True, FFTR was disappointing, but they showed signs of this with a few tracks on POTN as they were pressured by their label to go in a more radio friendly direction, but it's still the Olivas in their prime, just not their best effort. \m/
Yeah. Dungeons is absolutely excellent. Cheers!
My number 3 for sabotage goes to dungeons are calling EP and number two goes to Hall the mountain King and my number one pick is Streets😊 a rock opera
cheers!
Really? I expected Poets and Madmen to be at the lowest rank, but it surprised me to see it at the very last. For me, I would change position with Fight for the Rock. But of course, it’s a matter of personal taste. I do love the concept albums; that said, I agree With Hall of The Mountain King a the top, but my second favorite is Streets: A Rock opera. The rest will depend on my mood, but the first two and the last two remain.
R.I.P Criss Oliva one of my favorite guitar players of all time… I really though it was over for Savatage when he died, but even though it wasn’t the same, I’m glad they kept making music.
yeah. its hard to rank the lowest albums since those is often the ones that I've listened to the least. Cheers!
And suddenly I'm craving hot tea
haha 🤘
Di you like any of the nwothm bands?
Yeah I generally like the sound of several of them but I don't feel as invested in them as I do with the bands that came before them. I did a documentary on the wave. called New Wave of Metal, check it out!
min number 1 favorit album med savatage är sirens och ep the dungeons are calling och hall of the mountain king 🤘😎🤘
Good stuff. :) 🤘
Despite what others say, including the band, I really like Fight For The Rock. Sure, I could do without the two covers and the poor production, but I would still rather listen to that over the Zak Stevens era albums.
1.Hall Of The Mountain King 2. Sirens 3. Gutter Ballet 4. Power Of The Night 5. Streets 6. Fight or The Rock 7. Wake Of Magellan 8. Poets And Madmen 9. Dead Winter Dead 10. Handful Of Rain 11. Edge Of Thorns
Ah, I think Edge of Thorns are way better than Fight for the Rock but hey. ;) Cheers!
what about razor and warbringer?
Doubt that there will be enough interest for warbringer. Razor makes more sense. :)
@@RuthlessMetalYT ok wait razor its fantastic band! and they dropped new album few days ago
They were never my cup of tea but I still respect their musicianship 🤘🏻
No? Give 'em another chance. ;)