Ret Paladin The War Within Beta! Best Talent Build + Discussion - WoW TWW 11.0 Beta PvP
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making us choose between shield or 20% wall is absolutely criminal. Rets are already kill target in arenas 90% of the time. nerfing our survivability is absolutely inexcusable
did they nerf the survivability even in war within?
fuck them i dont play it then , but for some reason they did the same in the Df too
Yeah, it’s most likely an oversight though. The spell has the pvp modifier on it still. It in theory should be 20%.
you're crying over a -10% DR on your usable in stun wall!? omg pally's are big babies lol
You still have divine protection, but it will be 20% DR instead of 30% which it is in retail currently. Still a demonic thing to do
If you're running radiant glory I recommend running crit wings. You don't have time or the haste and globals to get crusade ramped
he did the intro guys, he did the intro this time
Templar feels like so much fun. It feels satisfying seeing those hammers crush down on the opponent. I am kinda sad it's so much worse then herald. I will probably still play it though since I like the fantasy of a templar more.
Tbh templar has nothing to do with what expect of a real "templar".
I know a lot of people simp for the Templar vibe, but GOD im so happy about the being a SUN warrior blasting fire and light
So, with Crusader's Reprieve gone does that mean Rebuke and Crusader Strike (et al) are back to normal range or is it baked in now?
Normal range, not baked in.
@@LvladenPvP Aw dang :(
@@nOPE-fs3du they removed all melee range increase for all the classes ;_; atleast we can still use judgement and final verdict on increased ranged with talent for that
I'm. confused, what's the CD on shield of vengeance?
it it a lot faster than aegis?
if not it doesn't make sense to even consider it as a choice as. ots at 10 vs 30
Its a 1min CD.
@@LvladenPvP I don't understand what type of choice that would be.
1 is 30% on a 1 min timer, the other is 10% on a 1.min timer
what are the devs doing? that makes zero sense
@@cc66bb44 plus shield of veng. It’s likely just a pvp oversight for now.
Templar Strike should just do more dmg, cleave and always crit without a combo, just 1 spell. Would be much better then the combo or give more time then 5 secs for it 😅
Would you say that Ret would be a fun choice to play as, played Ret since classic (the real classic not the trash trip of nostalgia we have now) up until MoP then stayed a Monk but with Serenity removed, the fun to play Monk has subsided to me, I don't wanna be a Pokemon/Palworld master.
I'm looking at Ret once again that or DH unless Serenity is given back to Monks, I digress.. how do you rate RET as of now compared to DF.
It's still BETA and I'm aware of the tunings etc but I'm talking about the feel (and potential performance).
I enjoy herald of the sun Ret. It offers some of what Ret currently lacks on retail like self sustain and a slow. Feels fun to me! Blessing of anshe procs are really strong too.
@@LvladenPvP thank you for your input.
I decided to get access to the beta myself and see things for my self as well and fortunately I like both of the specs although fantasy wise I love the combination of wings and the shield proc for the short duration.
I also like the big hammer but herald definitely feels more smooth and seeing ridiculous anshe procs creates absurd numbers and makes it more of a long range class.
Self healing still feels terrible especially looking at other classes while ret paladin was the very first strong self healing/assist healing melee class.
Too many pvp exclusive nerfs when you engage in combat.
Hi Lvladen
can you talk about the survivability in pvp?
in the Dragonflight was pure trash , is is the same in war within?
Survivability in DF was generally pretty decent, I wouldn’t say trash. Especially after the rework. The self healing was really bad though. Herald definitely has higher self sustain than Templar and for sure more than retail but things need to be tuned. Hopefully some old talents will get unnerfed in pvp.
@@LvladenPvP yes that spell word of glory can heal 2X more than its healing in pvp with the same gear in pve.
and its need holy power + mana/ this means in long 1v1 fights like fighting a tank or something like that you will end up with zero mana and you cant even use it even with holy power.
its total garbage in healing if you ask me, thats why me and some of my friends stopped playing ret in season 3, if they dont fix these problems in ww more people will leave it ill promise
@@arashnozari4042 I quit because of the WoG nerf too!
@@LvladenPvP i mean in DF self healing is rly rly bad i wouldnt even call it decent. Doing a 70-80k flash of light when the hp pool is 1.7 mil is rly bad .
@@kgeo8541 yeah but healing doesn’t really equal survivability. Speaking from an arena perspective Ret is pretty hard to kill because of its defensive utility. Cooldown trading/ rotation is key to feeling that though. Without proper trading it probably does feel really bad compared to shadowlands when we could heal significantly more. For example I would consider blessing of sanctuary a defensive. Sanc your healer out of CC and you generally won’t need to press a SoV/DP depending on what CD is being used by the enemy. It’s true Ret no longer has any sort of healing capabilities outside of lay on hands without dampening (with late damp + MS Lay is weak)
i think looks like better fun is herald
i agree templar strike needs to be one big hit or dun dun dunnnnnnnnnnnnnn blizz this is your chance to give ret a 20% healing reduction strike we deserve it but not going divine purpose is a mistake to me i say run it but yea im so sad templar is running far below herald it atleast need a slow and bump in damage but also for ret i liked to see more dont to ret tree and last but not least is sanctified plates bugged because if you go in for the second point it does no increase anything for ret is that a bug ?
I’ll check out the sanctified plates talent point bug. MS would be so nice but I doubt we’ll get it. Templar strike either needs to be one big hit or have no expiration on the second strike timer.
@@LvladenPvP yea one big it works for me id take it then they could atleast add a slow or something to it too lol ima always aim for something big and unique for us tho lol
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Ret feel really weak now compared to other classs
it was the same in Df pvp too,
me and a lot of players changed to other classes in pvp . all were pala players,
It’s just beta, they haven’t tuned things yet. I don’t think we’re super weak but tuning definitely a bit off and bugs. Not worried
If you think ret is weak rn, do not test holy paladin lmao, worse healing, worse dps, absolutely garbage
@@luizfelipemelo1098 its a total trash.
you shield of vengeance is useless against casters and they can break it with 2 chaos bolts for example and they dont get the back damage.
world of glory is useless.
warrios priests and mages can remove break and still you shields.
and much more.
I dont know whats going on but someone in blizzard hates paladin really bad.
.dont consider this videos of youtubers in pvp as a fact. most of people are not pro and high end pvp players and its very hard to stay alive as a ret without healers in 2v2-1v1 and world pvp., but the same people can play very better with other classes than paladin.
@@arashnozari4042 dire times to main paladin, my friend, im a holy paladin player, but i feel your pain, ret survivability was absolutely gutted, as was holy paladin damage and healing, idk about prot, but the main pvp specs sucks right now.