Hey Lvladen thanks for the Vid keep em coming. I noticed the radiant Glory talent replaces AW/Crusade at the moment. Does it synergize with Divine Wrath talent to extend AW/Crusade? Would a 13 Sec Crusade procd off Wake of Ashes every 30 sec give more value than the standard 23 sec Crusade every 2 min?
As of yesterdays build it no longer does. Unless they unnerf wings I don’t see radiant glory being that great for Templar. Still decent for herald though
What a juicy heal+absorb, gets Ret closer to DH. However, it's sad for me to see an awesome hybrid DPS spec go further away from offheals and more towards the way pure DPS specs heal. While Ret uniquely makes up for the lack of offheals with an array of defensive healer-power CDs for allies, it really is just like a pure DPS with support CDs and not a hybrid DPS.
@@LvladenPvP That makes perfect sense, thank you very much! I hope the flow of your rotation is smooth now having to basically push Crusader Strike twice instead of none lmao
i think ret is back for the most part man last duels vid our survivability looked so bad i literally held back on buying epic addition now i just might buy this week or maybe even later today loving what they did for our talents look like we lowkey getting the one shot build back like how vanguards of justice was and inquisitors ire was before big nerfs and judge jury executional is now what i hoped it would be and love the new sacrosanct heal id agree makes ret survivability just as good as herald just need a slow now or armor pen to seal the deal lol and i like that they reduced mana cost on our heals so we can atleast spam our weak ass heals lol
Thanks for the video Lvdaden, question whats the reason you choose Reckoning over Execution, execution lines up much better with wake of ashes and your hammer of light windows. Both are nerfed in pvp but execution has been hitting for me for 2 mill including the nerf in instanced pvp, its not like its dispellable and using execution also reduces the cooldown significantly on your stun so in theory you can stun much faster + a burst window than a Reckoning ret
I might run it! I been going back and forth a bit but it seems like it could be good. The reason I played FR was to test out how high the new vanguards of justice and empyrean hammer hit.
@@LvladenPvP i definitely understand your point of view on that matter for heavy chunky hits but having access to full burst power every 30 seconds will wear out the competition since no class gets their full power that often, the least is a min. Also I'm most pleased to see you using templar strikes to extend STH, it was in my theorycrafting head but was working double shift so didnt had the time to put it in to practice or recommend it. Or are you no longer running radiant glory when running Execution S?
Good change, but I'm still waiting for the 50% nerf in pvp to be removed, and for new pvp skills. Then changes within GCD on defensive skills and some changes in forbearance.
Would 100% rather that bode be some sort of small damage reduction from hammer of light like 10% after using it for 15 sec and they buff our baseline heals back up.
Herald of the sun is pretty good. Templar is now on par with it. Overall the damage is roughly similar. Herald actually might be higher and now survivability is similar. Versa>mastery>haste>crit
@ lvladen currently hammer of light cant be used in cast sequence macros, can you and others on here that see this push this as a bug to help it get fixed, some of us like to use it in a combo macro, ATM when you get to the hammer of light part in the cast sequence it just does nothing and doesnt recognise the spell. and yes before anyone asks I do have 5 holy power at that stage of the macro to use it. cheers all!
Still hoping they nerf healing on other classes. Don't see why a hunter should heal more than a paladin for example, but looks like we are going in an okay direction atm
hammer of wrath doing negative damage AGAIN. they need to unnerf wog and fol for templar . offhealing teammates is part of a paladin kit it should just be a herald thing to be able tp heal others effectively
Of all the classes I play, Ret feels like it's an expansion behind on the beta right now. Just does NOT move health bars, and feels like it's made of paper with no heals. If it's really this bad at launch, I think we're gonna have another BFA where ret is dead all xpac and I unsub
Taking WoW PvP seriously is like taking Elden Ring PvP seriously. Rarely is it balanced, it's just about running cheese. Sad to see. Hope it improves tho!
Like I said in the video, Ret is better than it was yesterday. But almost every class still heals more than Ret. I debated putting that opening clip in or not. That mage could have pretty much lived forever if he wanted to/ good enough. Same with that DK. Every class has at minimum equal or better healing to what this version of Ret has no aside from rogues.
@@LvladenPvP yeah mage could probably lived but still ret keep doing more dmg and healing output, so yeah maybe that could broke the game as a youtuber you should not support blizzard fuck the game insted of just clap hands for that crapy work
@LvladenPvP how have you been going against fury warriors? Doesn't look like they have had a crazy amount if healing and their second wind change can barely keep them alive with dots on behind a pillar
Hey Lvladen thanks for the Vid keep em coming. I noticed the radiant Glory talent replaces AW/Crusade at the moment. Does it synergize with Divine Wrath talent to extend AW/Crusade? Would a 13 Sec Crusade procd off Wake of Ashes every 30 sec give more value than the standard 23 sec Crusade every 2 min?
As of yesterdays build it no longer does. Unless they unnerf wings I don’t see radiant glory being that great for Templar. Still decent for herald though
What a juicy heal+absorb, gets Ret closer to DH.
However, it's sad for me to see an awesome hybrid DPS spec go further away from offheals and more towards the way pure DPS specs heal.
While Ret uniquely makes up for the lack of offheals with an array of defensive healer-power CDs for allies, it really is just like a pure DPS with support CDs and not a hybrid DPS.
Love the beta content! I'm curious why Templar Strikes over Crusading Strikes, though
Extending shake the heavens buff from templar
@@LvladenPvP That makes perfect sense, thank you very much! I hope the flow of your rotation is smooth now having to basically push Crusader Strike twice instead of none lmao
i think ret is back for the most part man last duels vid our survivability looked so bad i literally held back on buying epic addition now i just might buy this week or maybe even later today loving what they did for our talents look like we lowkey getting the one shot build back like how vanguards of justice was and inquisitors ire was before big nerfs and judge jury executional is now what i hoped it would be and love the new sacrosanct heal id agree makes ret survivability just as good as herald just need a slow now or armor pen to seal the deal lol and i like that they reduced mana cost on our heals so we can atleast spam our weak ass heals lol
Thanks for the video Lvdaden, question whats the reason you choose Reckoning over Execution, execution lines up much better with wake of ashes and your hammer of light windows.
Both are nerfed in pvp but execution has been hitting for me for 2 mill including the nerf in instanced pvp, its not like its dispellable and using execution also reduces the cooldown significantly on your stun so in theory you can stun much faster + a burst window than a Reckoning ret
I might run it! I been going back and forth a bit but it seems like it could be good. The reason I played FR was to test out how high the new vanguards of justice and empyrean hammer hit.
@@LvladenPvP i definitely understand your point of view on that matter for heavy chunky hits but having access to full burst power every 30 seconds will wear out the competition since no class gets their full power that often, the least is a min.
Also I'm most pleased to see you using templar strikes to extend STH, it was in my theorycrafting head but was working double shift so didnt had the time to put it in to practice or recommend it.
Or are you no longer running radiant glory when running Execution S?
@@LvladenPvP could you share your 2 cents on that?
question Lvlanden, is running templar strikes a MUST? or can I still use crusade passive >_>
Definitely not a must. Just niche extensions of shake the heavens are sometimes good.
@@LvladenPvP Thank you for replay, appreciate your vids!
When u use templar, what is your burst rotation when everything is of cooldown? Want to test ret instead of arms. You play insane!
I go over it in this video!
Good change, but I'm still waiting for the 50% nerf in pvp to be removed, and for new pvp skills. Then changes within GCD on defensive skills and some changes in forbearance.
Would 100% rather that bode be some sort of small damage reduction from hammer of light like 10% after using it for 15 sec and they buff our baseline heals back up.
Unholy will be nerfed. They're meant to be a caster killer, which means they have to suck vs. melee.
What about Herald of the Sun for pvp? is it even viable? How does it compare to Templar?
And which stats are you stacking?
Herald of the sun is pretty good. Templar is now on par with it. Overall the damage is roughly similar. Herald actually might be higher and now survivability is similar. Versa>mastery>haste>crit
Im still torn between Ret and War
I'm going to ply my pally sham and solo warr
Me to i prot pala or prot war i dont know
@@richardsaunders7157Enh is the wild card
Same, I'm leaning towards my war more atm
Warrior doesn't look good though in tww
Looks fun!
If only this artwork for your thumbnail could have been the damn theme for Templar man..
@ lvladen currently hammer of light cant be used in cast sequence macros, can you and others on here that see this push this as a bug to help it get fixed, some of us like to use it in a combo macro, ATM when you get to the hammer of light part in the cast sequence it just does nothing and doesnt recognise the spell. and yes before anyone asks I do have 5 holy power at that stage of the macro to use it. cheers all!
Have you tried writing wake of ashes twice in the cast sequence macro?
@@LvladenPvP wow excellent advise, that works thank you sir! keep up the good work.
What is the yellow weak aura that looks like a crescent on the right of your screen
It’s actually not a weakaura it’s part of the game base UI and it’s judge jury executioner proc. Probably should have mentioned that oops haha
Why do you play the judge jury executioner which doesn’t add prio damage over the divine storm proc which is buffed by other talents?
Still hoping they nerf healing on other classes. Don't see why a hunter should heal more than a paladin for example, but looks like we are going in an okay direction atm
Yeah defensives are wayyyy too high right now.
@@LvladenPvPnot to mention all the number bloat, 7 million HP? Lmao
Bruh why didn’t you use that bis turn evil talent do you not know how good it is . Wtb divine arbiter MS PvP talent
What mount is that in the beginnng?
Frost dk actually tanky now. Awesome, too late I swapped for slayer fury though lol
when they improve it?
laden you are a good player
hammer of wrath doing negative damage AGAIN. they need to unnerf wog and fol for templar . offhealing teammates is part of a paladin kit it should just be a herald thing to be able tp heal others effectively
do you coach? :)
Of all the classes I play, Ret feels like it's an expansion behind on the beta right now. Just does NOT move health bars, and feels like it's made of paper with no heals. If it's really this bad at launch, I think we're gonna have another BFA where ret is dead all xpac and I unsub
will these buffs help me get my girlfriend to watch One Piece with me? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Unfortunately no. Buffs for that would require a game breaking level.
Paladins are either insanely broken or insanely trash. Blizz doesn't know how to find the middle ground for them lol
Its soo f easy to do That, Just need to neerf 15% principal abilitys, and buff 15% The principal heals. 😅
This isn’t insanely broken. I can post clips of every class except rogue and evoker outhealing this :P hunters don’t even have to move in duels haha
I would say they're a pretty good middle ground right now they're not weak by any means but they're not the strongest class out there either
Can we Show all your macros please ?
Taking WoW PvP seriously is like taking Elden Ring PvP seriously.
Rarely is it balanced, it's just about running cheese.
Sad to see. Hope it improves tho!
😂that mage plays like he cant get passed 1600 rating in the first fight
He might just be new to mage
Broken again
Yeah now rpally can heal tank and hit like a truck thanks blizzard you just broke the game again i rather pally suck than what it is right nos
why dont you get better at the game rather then wanting classes to suck
@@reecegarysmith7613 because pally would be overpower and the game will still be broken
Like I said in the video, Ret is better than it was yesterday. But almost every class still heals more than Ret. I debated putting that opening clip in or not. That mage could have pretty much lived forever if he wanted to/ good enough. Same with that DK. Every class has at minimum equal or better healing to what this version of Ret has no aside from rogues.
@@LvladenPvP yeah mage could probably lived but still ret keep doing more dmg and healing output, so yeah maybe that could broke the game as a youtuber you should not support blizzard fuck the game insted of just clap hands for that crapy work
@LvladenPvP how have you been going against fury warriors? Doesn't look like they have had a crazy amount if healing and their second wind change can barely keep them alive with dots on behind a pillar