I think wow would really benefit on focusing more on RBGS since its been quite dead on retail and overall i love bgs and it would be cool to earn some new exicting rewards cosmetic or gears etc with it. but like you said in the video add something more with arena (Retail) to make it more exicting than waiting for dampening for 20min to kill a healer and then reque and do the same thing.!
I got back into WoW PVP half way through Dragonflight for a few months and I was hyped at how they added solo queue but after a while I stopped playing because of the crazy long queue times for DPS and playing healer just sucks. They should have a ranked soloqueue for DPS only 2v2. The queue times would be super fast and it would be lots of fun.
Not sure about this i remember back in Cata there where like 1 ret paladin who got like 3k rating and that was vanguard. Rest of Ret paladins struggle really badly in 3s.
That intro of the song is New Noise, by legendary Swedish punk band Refused. I nearly fell out of my chair when it started. I was like what in the actual shit? Savix listens to Refused? But then it transitions into some other song.
Yeah because pve has completely busted classes for pvp. The power creep has become insane. When classes have to have insane dmg and defensives and self healing for m+ it bleeds into pvp. Around Cata its like perfect. But also PvP is so dogshit in retail because they have basically only focused on 3v3. Took away 5s and Titles from 2s. Like who cares if people want to play 2s and get a title? Only rank 1 glads get to keep the glad title when every fucking pver gets to keep titles they earn. PvP has been shit on for years. When PvP arguably gave WoW the most exposure and advertisement over the years with PvP videos. I never went on warcraftmovies to look at PvE videos when i was younger lol
@@betahumanx Yeah it is much faster and reaction time based as it should be on 2024, take classic arenas are so fekin slow it is impossible to enjoy them under 80yo.
damn this hit me in my nostalgia feels harder than I thought it would great vid mr savix sir, glad i got to see you take a trip down memory lane with cata classic v enjoyable :)
I agree that WoW should 100% shift focus from the current arena-centric PvP design and work on diversifying the PvP experience. Reallocating resources and other support into synergizing and making different modes of PvP like Regular, Rated, and Epic Battlegrounds and *WORLD PVP* relevant would be a homerun for content and would reinvigorate the player pool, which has steadily diminished from WoTLK to its current all-time low. It would also serve to fundamentally remap PvP as a topic of discussion: In 2024, 90% of the usage of the term PvP in relation to WoW is only in reference to Arena. When someone calls themselves a PvPer, they are realistically just an arena player; they don't do BGs and they don't pursue World PvP. With a focus shift to other forms of PvP, players can start asking each other "what kind of PVPer?" That's the dream. *TLDR: YES THEY SHOULD STOP FOCUSING ON ARENA AND FOCUS ON MULTIPLE FORMS OF PVP CONTENT EQUALLY*
They absolutely should add more competitive bg's to WoW. Arena is so boring nowadays (Retail and Classic). So I'm totally down for more types of competitive bg's
I genuinely feels cata is the peak of paladin. It have all the resistance in the world to deal with mage, and seal of justice to perfect counter Druid.
I agree that RBGs are the way to go, they have to overhaul them, create something brand new, and see how it goes. Like warfronts but really to be done for PVP.
Ranked solo Q BGs could be the future of wow PVP if they balance it right RBGs are fun already but the strugle to find a group that doesnt get disbanned after first game is just too much time waste
Ret community (and by ret community i mean Savix) should really be a little loud about wings gettin stolen. I mean, they did made some changes in previous classic iterations so, maybe, there's still hope.
Savix Retail PvP needs you! You are the messiah! Always ahead of the curve on PvP design. We need a serious Savix Retail PvP video for the Blizzard Devs! Ultimately the answer is not in the BGs, Solo RBGs, or RBGs simply, but in a new mode constructed ground up for WoW. Something like they are doing for War Within but I am worried that they are making for the rules they set for BG Blitz instead from ground up.. Arena is an S tier mode in WoW, but as far as PvP modes it is bottom of the barrel.
i played a long time RBGS at top rating and must say it kinda feels pretty meh it makes fun at lower rating bc you have then chances to win teamfight and so on but if everyone is at a top peak games mostly over if they 2 cap at lets say Gilneas hard to not loose it then if both are equal in teamfight strenght. i think they should maybe just put objectives in Arena make it that you have 2 conditions to win 1 is to capture the point hold it for a min or so or something diff idk or kill a dps or so. i agree its kinda meh since Arena is always the same since years but it could be good like its now if the balancing and rewards are correctly. skillshots should be a huge point in WoW you dont really have any skillshots like you do in League mass root being a skillshot could be insane for Arenas and RBGs but yeah. 1 Problem about RBGs aswell is that to 90% the optimal lineup is 3 Boomies 2 Rogues 1 Lock 1 Dk or so 2 disc 1 rsham many classes arent really having any impact in RBGs bc they are so much weaker then the other and you cant do so much things with it then with other that sucks kinda hard aswell so every player that plays not the best class just gets declined.
Savix usually you have some semblance of reasoning even when I disagree but wanting healers to be forced into the do everything role is the exact opposite of what the game needs if people want more healers to do pvp content. Right now most healers are already responsible for cc healing and damage because blizzard has forced every single healing spec to be that way because they are trying to make every spec viable in M+. Retail is by far the most active healers have ever been in pvp.
Competitive bgs and I'll return to retail wow, cause I don't like arena, I've never liked it, I thought it was boring, like super boring, as a player that started doing arenas in Shadowlands, I didn't understand why people liked it, I still learned and was taught a lot of things from Arena, but even with the knowledge of arena I have now, It's still boring to both play and watch, cause it's basically either dampening gives the win, or whoever messes up their defensives first, that isn't fun imo
I hope they see how much people enjoy the ret design in cata and maybe, finally, re-introduce some of the favourite design aspects back into trhe retail ret.
as an ex wow enjoyer i would LOVE to see them add more minigames in pvp, like 1v1 duel arena, or more BG mechanics, like variant game modes like free for all in a big map, like minecraft survival games that the last man standing wins
I think wow would really benefit on focusing more on RBGS since its been quite dead on retail and overall i love bgs and it would be cool to earn some new exicting rewards cosmetic or gears etc with it. but like you said in the video add something more with arena (Retail) to make it more exicting than waiting for dampening for 20min to kill a healer and then reque and do the same thing.!
This :
I got back into WoW PVP half way through Dragonflight for a few months and I was hyped at how they added solo queue but after a while I stopped playing because of the crazy long queue times for DPS and playing healer just sucks. They should have a ranked soloqueue for DPS only 2v2. The queue times would be super fast and it would be lots of fun.
Not sure about this i remember back in Cata there where like 1 ret paladin who got like 3k rating and that was vanguard. Rest of Ret paladins struggle really badly in 3s.
That was mop
@@Kikkanone vanguards has been R1 since wotlk
Ret paladin is more good in 2s.
Ret paladin is amazing all xpac long 😂 you can even put 2 rets on a team lmao
Anyone thinking ret isn’t strong in cata arena doesn’t know wtf they are talking about. Rank 1 in 2s , and Rank 1 viable in 3s
Some of the music is top notch in this video. Wish I had some links to said songs! 0:17
sounds like doom music or similar
Welcome to night city by Headsplitter.
Thanks Siri/Shazam.
That intro of the song is New Noise, by legendary Swedish punk band Refused. I nearly fell out of my chair when it started. I was like what in the actual shit? Savix listens to Refused?
But then it transitions into some other song.
Undyne - Spear of Justice dual guitar. Undertale.
Freaking love how your pvp videos still feel like the old school pvp montages videos I was so obsessed with.
I don't know how but Cata PvP just feels better than retail
Cata is the best PvP expo along MoP.
@@karama300video Retail PvP seems like a complete mess to me. A crazy amount of procs, insane bursts and mobility of meele classes..
Yeah because pve has completely busted classes for pvp. The power creep has become insane. When classes have to have insane dmg and defensives and self healing for m+ it bleeds into pvp. Around Cata its like perfect. But also PvP is so dogshit in retail because they have basically only focused on 3v3. Took away 5s and Titles from 2s. Like who cares if people want to play 2s and get a title? Only rank 1 glads get to keep the glad title when every fucking pver gets to keep titles they earn. PvP has been shit on for years. When PvP arguably gave WoW the most exposure and advertisement over the years with PvP videos. I never went on warcraftmovies to look at PvE videos when i was younger lol
cata and mop were the best for sure. legion was pretty damn good too
@@betahumanx Yeah it is much faster and reaction time based as it should be on 2024, take classic arenas are so fekin slow it is impossible to enjoy them under 80yo.
damn this hit me in my nostalgia feels harder than I thought it would
great vid mr savix sir, glad i got to see you take a trip down memory lane with cata classic v enjoyable :)
reminds me of when started watching savix in cata he used to make dueling guides and montages
Objective focus would be a massive benefit. i only play arenas for cap to have the necessary gear to have fun in battlegrounds.
Low rated rat why don't you just improve and get Glad?
0:08 best part of the video, wish it was the thumbnail
12 year old spotted
mr Savix, what are your addons for enemy targets
I agree that WoW should 100% shift focus from the current arena-centric PvP design and work on diversifying the PvP experience.
Reallocating resources and other support into synergizing and making different modes of PvP like Regular, Rated, and Epic Battlegrounds and *WORLD PVP* relevant would be a homerun for content and would reinvigorate the player pool, which has steadily diminished from WoTLK to its current all-time low.
It would also serve to fundamentally remap PvP as a topic of discussion: In 2024, 90% of the usage of the term PvP in relation to WoW is only in reference to Arena. When someone calls themselves a PvPer, they are realistically just an arena player; they don't do BGs and they don't pursue World PvP. With a focus shift to other forms of PvP, players can start asking each other "what kind of PVPer?" That's the dream.
*TLDR: YES THEY SHOULD STOP FOCUSING ON ARENA AND FOCUS ON MULTIPLE FORMS OF PVP CONTENT EQUALLY*
Yo bro ! do you have the profile code for ur UD ?
2:20 is a remix of some runescape song, anyone got it?
Ret Paladin was my first main when I was 12-15. I was so bad at the game. Literally the worst in every LFG, LFR and RBG. I had so much fun.
They absolutely should add more competitive bg's to WoW. Arena is so boring nowadays (Retail and Classic). So I'm totally down for more types of competitive bg's
Miss that Guardian of Ancient Kings, bring that back to Retail! I do NOT miss getting Wings stolen though, F That lol
How much do i have to pay you for a couple hours of ret coaching i need key bind set ups and well everything else
I genuinely feels cata is the peak of paladin. It have all the resistance in the world to deal with mage, and seal of justice to perfect counter Druid.
Savix randomly dropping some Witcher 2 battle music. I knew there was a reason I always watched even when I don't play
What Plater addon is that? is it Plater or something else?
Cata-WoD was prime ret paladin gameplay. I miss my class. Retail paladin class designer is garbo and has been since legion.
Ret in WoD was really fun to play
I agree that RBGs are the way to go, they have to overhaul them, create something brand new, and see how it goes. Like warfronts but really to be done for PVP.
Fuck yes old Savix is back
Ranked solo Q BGs could be the future of wow PVP if they balance it right RBGs are fun already but the strugle to find a group that doesnt get disbanned after first game is just too much time waste
Song from 2:17 to 2:40??
sounds like something off runescape
yea that guys right, its the lumbridge theme but fancier and more done up
Harmony · James Hannigan
@@tiagoborges8178 legend ty
the first song sounds like the song from The Bear. which is new noise.
Nice vid. Awesome points on PvP improvements!
In Cata and Pandaria Ret Beat any rogue no matter who.
what a badass thumbnail. Wish I could see more of that in WoW
Ret community (and by ret community i mean Savix) should really be a little loud about wings gettin stolen. I mean, they did made some changes in previous classic iterations so, maybe, there's still hope.
It sucks my realm turned medium pop when it was high last expansion on classic
Hoooly thumbnail, comix did it again. I can clearly see the highlights on the tip of the sword OM
Savix Retail PvP needs you! You are the messiah! Always ahead of the curve on PvP design. We need a serious Savix Retail PvP video for the Blizzard Devs! Ultimately the answer is not in the BGs, Solo RBGs, or RBGs simply, but in a new mode constructed ground up for WoW. Something like they are doing for War Within but I am worried that they are making for the rules they set for BG Blitz instead from ground up.. Arena is an S tier mode in WoW, but as far as PvP modes it is bottom of the barrel.
Yes RBG"s should be the future. Arenas suck to watch.
If they balanced for RBgs cata could be great.
Guardian ability was my fav thing for pala
Dude, your editor is hilarious
Did you have Grumbae edit this?? Cuz this is amazing lol
Finally...the war has come back to world of warcraft.
i played a long time RBGS at top rating and must say it kinda feels pretty meh it makes fun at lower rating bc you have then chances to win teamfight and so on but if everyone is at a top peak games mostly over if they 2 cap at lets say Gilneas hard to not loose it then if both are equal in teamfight strenght. i think they should maybe just put objectives in Arena make it that you have 2 conditions to win 1 is to capture the point hold it for a min or so or something diff idk or kill a dps or so. i agree its kinda meh since Arena is always the same since years but it could be good like its now if the balancing and rewards are correctly. skillshots should be a huge point in WoW you dont really have any skillshots like you do in League mass root being a skillshot could be insane for Arenas and RBGs but yeah. 1 Problem about RBGs aswell is that to 90% the optimal lineup is 3 Boomies 2 Rogues 1 Lock 1 Dk or so 2 disc 1 rsham many classes arent really having any impact in RBGs bc they are so much weaker then the other and you cant do so much things with it then with other that sucks kinda hard aswell so every player that plays not the best class just gets declined.
0:08 This photo is of a character from a Brazilian program called Fofão hahahahahahahahah
Loving in the cyberpunk music
4:51 Savix, bro, it's not laggin, it's script
Savix usually you have some semblance of reasoning even when I disagree but wanting healers to be forced into the do everything role is the exact opposite of what the game needs if people want more healers to do pvp content. Right now most healers are already responsible for cc healing and damage because blizzard has forced every single healing spec to be that way because they are trying to make every spec viable in M+. Retail is by far the most active healers have ever been in pvp.
shoutout to the editor ofc
W takes keep going Savix love your content ppc ofcourse Cata Hype, Cata Hype!!!
Competitive bgs and I'll return to retail wow, cause I don't like arena, I've never liked it, I thought it was boring, like super boring, as a player that started doing arenas in Shadowlands, I didn't understand why people liked it, I still learned and was taught a lot of things from Arena, but even with the knowledge of arena I have now, It's still boring to both play and watch, cause it's basically either dampening gives the win, or whoever messes up their defensives first, that isn't fun imo
good takes as always man.
Ohhh shiiiit he didn't reroll
PvP needs some SERIOUS love.
HANSOL is back boys LETS FKN GOOOO💪👀🤳
The Start killing me xD ahahahhaha
Do some raiding as a ret pls
What’s name of addon, which shows verdict proks ?
It’s in game
Im pretty sure your american not korean bro
but on topic they have to add laotl and wings to sod now...
Best ret paladin is cata and mop expansion
Retail healers are insane broken lmao
You just described Gw2 support general gameplay. Not healing spam, CC oriented and kite to actually survive
Yeah since we are under microsoft the quality of the servers is insane xD
What the sigma 2:15
I hope they see how much people enjoy the ret design in cata and maybe, finally, re-introduce some of the favourite design aspects back into trhe retail ret.
Brazil reference mentioned! Pega o fofão caralho
as an ex wow enjoyer i would LOVE to see them add more minigames in pvp, like 1v1 duel arena, or more BG mechanics, like variant game modes like free for all in a big map, like minecraft survival games that the last man standing wins
Gentlemen !!!!~~~
They need to nerf paladin healing its a joke.
bro what is that hair
poggers
competitive bgs
CHILLS is this THE RANK 1 BACK TO BACK IN ACTION thank god u quit s-
o7
Im the 666 like
RBGs are just too cliquey its annoying af
dear god, the editing is so forced. I felt like I was on a Ben Shapiro's cringe video
Savix needs to fire his editor
Retail is not "looking great" at all.
arena is not popping off cuz its too hard to get into for the non wow player but its the most skillful pvp mode in any game hands down
there is nothing skillfull about pillar humping and tunelvisioning the enemy healer...
Playing pala human ane think u are pro player xD 🤣🤦
fiiiiiiiiiiirst my lord and savior
boring
Dude whats with all the zoom? You do understand the purpose of a video is to actually show whats going on and not zoom in on 3 pixels?
broken as always