The Very Latinx History of Punk
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- Опубликовано: 31 окт 2019
- Punk is more than music: It’s a way of life; it’s a politic; it says something about the world we’ve lived in and the world we want to create. It’s also served as a haven for the misfits, the disillusioned and the marginalized. But the narratives that exist about punk, outside those in the know, treat it as though it was just about angst. Punk is treated as though it’s simply the byproduct of a particular kind of punk: the angry white boy. But the history of punk is a history that intersects across communities building on similar sounds and politics. In the final episode of Pop Americana’s first season, Sana Saeed explores the Latinx punks - from Lima to Los Angeles - and their role in making punk, well, punk.
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Host & Senior Producer: Sana Saeed
Producers: Kathryn Wheeler, Sean Gordon-Loebl, Maral Satari
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Editor: Ben Angeloni
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Hey everyone! Whew! This is the last episode of Pop Americana’s first season. We’ll be back soon with a lot more episodes. How are you liking it so far? We’re still experimenting with everything, so whatever you wanna tell us - tell us!
And we know the use of the word “Latinx” can be contentious, but we decided to use it for this video for purposes of not just inclusivity, but also to respect how many people in the video identify themselves.
You guy's should interview raw brigade. They're a hardcore punk band from Columbia.
what I would like to see in videos like this... how about a play list for people to check out, and/or book, article, web or film recommendation for people that want to know more.
In line with this video please do another about Latinx musicians in the 80s punk scene, the cowpunk scene and the college rock scene.
Noticia Amarillista hate to break it to you but all words are made up
@@I-Ren-Zero Second this! It would be great to see a playlist, especially of the artists featured in this video
I guess you should come back with 'The Black Rock Coalition'.
Many MANY Hispanic people like punk rock and metal. There isn't a shortage of rock fans in general among Latin folks
When I was in a band I remember seeing sooo many latinx punk bands come and go in the local scenes of SoCal.
@@dannyapeshit "latinx" is linguistic appropriation. Please stop anglicizing spanish words. It's racist, it's insulting and it's completely un-pronouncable in Spanish. It's an insult to millions of Latinos.
@@peterbanderas8184 Yeah but I'm writing in English so who cares. If I write in Spanish then I obviously wouldn't write latinx. Chill out, I'm not even that fond of the use of latinx either haha.
lilahdog 568 I think it depends where you are. On the west coast I notice that lots of Latinos love rock music. On the east coast where I’m from, rock is “blanquito” music 😂
@@ladydontekno True, but historically latinos have always been a part of rock music (ritchie valens, thee midnighters, Santana) and it was created by black Americans in the south anyway. It's just that "blanquitos" took it over and mostly only support blanquito bands haha.
I'm Chicana, from Boyle Heights, East LA and all my siblings grew up punk/goth/metal. Gigs in the hood are always incredible
No you're a liar, everyone in East l.a. grew up on Chicano rap and oldies.
Check out the 80s band called the Stains from east los Angeles.
@@javiervega1065 u sound dumb most the punks i knew lived in east La jus say u never been there jack but punks dying in latinx communities everyones on gangsta rap now
It's about time we give props to all the latino influences that made punk the strong standpoint we all aspire to.
cheers!
just imagine the day we remember how much better it was when it was majority white, no lets never recognize how special whites are, gotta stay virtue-signaling and pollitically correct, how punk
@@uncleruckus3149 did you even watch the video
@@uncleruckus3149 your white supremacy is showing…
Living in Mexico, I grew up with punk in Spanish from Spain and every country in Latin America. Now that I think of it, the almost all of the punk music in English I have ever listed comes from the UK. The idea that Punk music in the USA is not associated with Latin people is bizarre to me.
Well what you said is true except that latino isnt really a race .People from Espana are white , in fact unfortunately Ive met a neo nazi spaniard before.
Yeah it's bizarre to me as well,I'm a salvadorian from cali , orange county ( mis padres son de El salvador).You don't know how many other latinos I knew ( including me ) that listened to all types of music especially various rock sub genres from punk ,metalcore ,indie rock,nu metal and many metal.As a child my parents exposed me to literally almost any type of music and my dad is really into pearl Jam ,Queen,Rage against the machine.
For the record:
'Punk Rock'---as with Spirituals, Blues, Country Music, Ragtime, Jazz, Gospel, R n B, Rock n Roll, Soul, Funk, Doo Wop, Rap & Hip Hop, House Music etc., are music forms that enjoy African American roots.
Post Francoist Spain was one of known scene of Hardcore Punk.
I highly suggest you watch the American Hardcore documentary
My currently band's name is Turiros, coloquial name for Termitas, which is an analogy for the punks, of how we will survive and our legacy will continue no matter, how hard the system will try to get rid of us, even tho if the world explotes and get burn!!! Greetings, from Bolivia!!! Keep on going, spread the word, and be the resistance!!!!!
🤘🏾
Resistance to what and with what goal? As marxist leninist i ask you, wtf is it you wanna achieve?
yes please... every time someone talks about punk being 'white' I just think you don't know your history..
additionally in San Francisco during the 70s, Alejandro Escovedo played in The Nuns who opened the final Sex Pistols show... he later was in pioneering Cowpunk band Rank'n'File and then after playing in several bands before becoming one of the pillars of the Alt Country scene , he was named the artist of the Decade for the 90s by No Depression Magazine..
I just got schooled today...good history lesson
punk was always inclusive by not actually giving a single shit. This documentary has some nice footage but is making a none point. Bad Brains Death Black Flag. To name but a few.
@@punkisinthedetails1470
A) the standard narrative about punk has been that it is white
B) the West Coast US Scene has largely been left out of punk history until recently
C) Death was not part of the 'Punk' scene and were not known out side of a small cult of collectors until the Doc came out.
D) Punk was inclusive in the early days because it was open to everyone, and that meant that the outsiders who didn't fit in the majority or minority groups, as time went on it became more closed, uniform
E) Just as most people don't know that the original Skinheads were Black working class people who had immigrated to the UK from various outposts in the empire in the gulf of Mexico (mostly Jamaica) for blue collar job, most people don't know much about the 4 main punk scenes --inspired mainly by Reggae, Pubrock, the Velvet Underground, The MC5, The Stooges and 60s Garage Rock -- that sprang up in the mid 70s in London (growing out of the Pub Rock Scene), New York City, LA/SF and Sydney..
F) your dismissive comment comes off as know it all, too cool for school and really isn't adding anything to educating about the topic of punk, it's history and the role of people of color in it's history. .. so cool story bro.
@@I-Ren-Zero hey eric, my comment was just a brief agreement with your comment "...every time someone talks about punk being 'white'..." as a side note I checked out your book reviews which I liked. I wasn't sure if that was you or a video you had uploaded by someone else? Good reviews. (I am assuming that's you in the book case)
I thought punk was a white youth thing wow
This makes me want to start my own band.
Maria M. 🤘🏼
xNoXChingesx
do it
Do it yo
Same dude, but sadly my music tastes are everywhere, so that'll be hard to do lol.
The most influential and unrecognized punk band in the world, Bad Brains.
What? Never heard of them. So... Trump & family are going to sing after the Impeachment?
Unrecognized??? But my dude, they're one of the most famous punk bands of all time... how do u mean?
@@mikerphone. he was being sarcastic i think.
@@lumpenproletarier9584 i kinda figured, but that's why i asked.
pretty recognized for being super homophobic, yeah
If someone calls me a Latinx to my FACE THEY'RE GETTING THESE HANDS!!
@Sean Diaz being latino is not a culture...los colombianos por ejemplo no somos lo mismo que los mexicanos, are we? stop trying to make of the term "latno" and identity.
@@DavidRamirez-ue8gv they look the same
@@rudyzk how many of is do you know? like 2? hahahaha
Vos sos LatinX. Ahora vení a pelear si te animás.
@@13tuyuti 🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 en mi cara huevon!!
"Latinx" has to be the most patronizing term I've ever heard.
Every time I hear “latinx” a little piece of my soul screams and dies
lol damn r.i.p. snowflake
Same
@@eli8582 *Latino 🤡
Latin sex is awesome
Okay, I’d like to formally apologizing to anyone who saw my comment before, I was very uninformed, and foolish. I don’t know if it’s even up anymore.. but it was out there a very short while (like three seconds-) but that’s not an excuse. My actions are my own. They were foolish. And I was uninformed. And it’s perfectly okay to not accept this apology even if you haven’t seen it. Okay I’m done . Before I make a bigger fool out of myself
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If you would like to roast the shit out of me I deserve it.
As an aging hardcore-era guy, I'm THRILLED to see so much of Alice Bag! Te amo, big sister!
Alice is rebel to the core even now 😎 u see back in the day, punk is not just accessories but also way of life.
I never heard about the "white boys groups" theory creation of Punk.
It's something new and alien to me.
It's well known that Punk scene from beginning is diverse in terms of race, ethnicity, nationalities, gender etc.
Punk was actually a lot racially diverse in underground scene.
Wasn't punk started by white people tho? Or did we steal that too
@@pablogats4627 punk was started by white people. They just like to minimize everything white people do lol. But everyone in the punk scene for the past 30 years or so have been mostly a dominate white culture. Same for metal
London Ska/Reggae and Punk in the 1970’s were intricately linked. The Clash, The Jam, The Specials, The Beat, etc.
@@pablogats4627 No
There’s no way the term “latinx” was a name that Hispanics came up with
Gustavo Almanza simply Americans clinging onto something they can’t let go of.. overuse of pride.
White liberals did this, idiots!
Idiots created that "ideology", and even more idiots accepted it.
Well, they did.
The Dice man no they didnt but alright
why "Latinx?".. I see it written all over that way now but don't know the significance if anybody can explain.. thanks
From what I’ve gathered people use the term so as to not exclude gender fluid latinos and reject the gendered aspects of spanish language.
It's just a gender neutral dude. Just to include both men and women. I find easier than saying latinos and Latinas.
@Eugene Fisher uh what?
@Eugene Fisher what culture? Latin America is a very vast place with an abundance of peoples and cultures. So which one's offended?
Doom Santana so we have to change our language because some random white people find it easy?
I'm hispanic and followed punk since 1979 by getting into the Ramones. I'm part of the Washington DC 80s punk scene featuring the Bad brains, scream minor threat and Government issue. We are everywhere.
I’m sure I’m beating a dead horse, but it’s not “Latinx,” it’s Latino. Spanish, like many other European languages, features gendered suffixes. If I’m saying I’m with my friends, Maria and Felipe, I’d still refer to them as “mis amigos.” Using the term Latinos doesn’t mean you are ignoring women, it’s just the way you refer to Latinos. I don’t travel in any circles that use the term Latinx, because if you speak Spanish to any degree, you know that Latinos is the correct way to say it in Spanish. Also, it’s easier to say “Latinos” than to say “Latinx people” and anyway all of that categorization is vague and confusing. And English uses a lot of loan words from other languages. The word taco for example has no translation in English. And it uses a host of French words for which there are not really any alternatives. bourgeois.
brunette.
blond(e)
adieu.
au contraire.
chauffeur.
chic.
critique.
So on top of the fact it’s sort of whitewashing, it’s also not really helpful in communicating information, and it isn’t any more or less difficult or foreign to say “Latino” than it is to say “chauffeur.” It would be like replacing that word with something like “drivist.” I don’t even really understand what the point of eliminating the Hispanic origin in a word that is mostly used by and refers to Hispanic people. I’m not upset or anything, I’m not saying this is a bad video for using Latinx in the script, I just think if i was gonna discuss a wide group of cultures’ impact on a certain genre of music, I would probably try to use the correct word instead of making one up, especially if it kind of removes the identity of that group of cultures from the word that refers to them.
Anyway, I just wanna note that the polish word for “German” translates roughly to “mute” because Germanic tribes did not speak the same language as Slavs of (modern day) Poland. Romans called them something different, it seems everyone had a different name for them. In Spanish, Germany is called Alemania, named for a large Germanic tribe called the aleman. It happened all the time and I’m sure the Germans aren’t any more upset about it than we are but it’s kind of weird and interesting to think about. I think I’m talking about it mostly because we have some say in what we’re called in a place like the United States, where a lot of us live and refer to ourselves as Latinos, whereas ancient Germans had probably no idea that people in Iberia were referring to the entire region as Aleman, or that some Slavs called them Mutes because they couldn’t understand each other, or that the Romans called them by the name they made up for the region that spoke that specific language.
Its honestly disgusting that white liberals try to dictate the language of latinos.
Yeah and that same language was developed and changed so why aren’t you okay with change if it helps other amongst the community feel validated.
glksjgkrjhkehjks the term "Latino" is WHITE so come up with another argument. The Latin languages are WHITE.
Isn't mexican culture still heavily influenced by the Spanish? Like it's pretty shocking to me how many catholics are in Mexico given the history there. I think latinx americans have to deal with a really racially polarized environment, and given that, it should be understandable they'd want to take a step away from European culture.
@@gh6766 that's what I'm saying too. Like whats with the catholicism, am i right?
Calling Ron Reyes the original singer of Black Flag is downright wrong.
Get your facts straight.
I noticed that too. He's my favorite but not first
That made it obvious that the presenter is just reading off of a script and didn't know who any of these bands were a month before this was made.
Yeah I like him but keith morris is first .
Anyway whats all this talk about latinos in punk rock lol hispanic is not a race its a culture .
And no one even mentions Dez Cadena?
“Latinx” yes let me change my language because some white people said I had to. Isn’t the first time I’ve been told what I can and can’t say by them.
Why are you blaming whites for "latinx"? The term was created by a Latina.
@@LigaFantasma White people, mainly liberals in the USA, are pushing hard to mainstream the word
@@sun4437 they're pushing it because they think we like the term. How did they come to that conclusion I wonder? Now, it's going to take a serious effort to keep "latinx" from becoming the official term for Latin American decended people.
*twitter users
@@LigaFantasma where you trying to suggest latinos like this term? just take a look at the comments
This is, overall, pretty well done. I was in bands in L.A. in early 80s, and worked for The Plugz and their label - Fatima Recordz. The Plugz were the first punk band in L.A. to create their own label.
There were Latinos in several bands, as well as in the scene. I always went to shows with a group of friends - all Latinos. Most of us were in bands. Latinos were a large part of the L.A. scene.
Well done? This video is atrocious. There are no Afro-Latinos, Carribean Latinos, the central American rock wave of the 1980s, the MASSIVE contribution Carribean Latinos in New York made to Punk, nothing out of Brazil, nothing . Just light-skinned Californians and bands popularized in the US. Incredible. You can tell this was put together by a bunch of American-Born Latinos that can't hold a conversation in Spanish outside of L.A.
This was the type of SJW crap that people were uploading to youtube in the late 2010s to look woke and diverse and in the end just made fools of themselves. These videos are really badly reserached and not aging well.
No1 is using “Latinx” but journalists
I know actual Hispanic folk who use it.
@@ruggedobserver4987 No, they are half Venezuelan and half Columbian. First generation too.
@@ruggedobserver4987 That I have to agree
@@professorrosenstock5026 Colombian*
Can we have a punk resurgence pleaseeee
It never left. There's still way too many punk bands and most of them are not good or interesting.
It never stopped lol
it’s still going on you just have to look for it
Raven W I feel like it’s starting now honestly
Check out Generacion Suicida, newer band and they are AMAZING
i stumbled across this video a while ago when i first started getting into punk music, and it was such a great surprise to hear los crudos here! my dad was the original drummer and it's so cool that the music he helped write was a part of this
Punk is for everyone who wants it
im mexican no punk says latinx lol
I'm Mexican
I'm punk
I say latinx lol
@@RenatoRegalado oh buddy why...
Kripa Khanal just say Latin there’s no gender involved in that at all and means all Latin people why add the x?
@@tx2sirk466 no it doesn't. You guys are literally the establishment now. Trying to censor everybody who doesn't agree with you. Quite the opposite of punk
@@tx2sirk466 that's irrelevant tbh. We're not talking about sexuality here, we're talking about Latin Americans and their legacy for punk music. If we're talking about sexuality, we can go there, but it's sort of irrelevant in this discussion.
This hits home! What a beautifully put together piece. Mil Gracias!
Thank you for making this!!!!
Love how they mentioned Pilsen instead of Chicago. Pilsen is a neighborhood in the heart of Chicago.
I once heard about a girl who didn't know how to balance being latino with being punk.
I hope she discovered this.
Love this , the video I needed in my life
Suicidal Tendencies instantly came to mind
Yea I was shocked they weren't included.
the stains
@@subzon yeah they were pretty diverse with members who were all black or mexican except for Mike Muir.
Literally wearing their merch as I watched this lol
Ron Reyes wasn't the original vocalist of Black Flag. Keith Morris was Black Flag's original frontman. That's pretty common knowledge too. Certainly, Ron Reyes was one of Black Flag's few note worthy vocalists since he was one of the few who actually sang on a record but he wasn't the first
Ever heard of Los Bros Hernandez? They did(still do!) a great punk comic, with that proper fusion of hispanic and punk culture (I think the brothers actually went from being low riders to being punks).The comic is called Love and Rockets (And they named it that before the band!). It tackles a lot of stuff many writers today still can't do very well, and does them gracefully. Two of the most famous characters:Maggie and Hopey, bisexual punk women who date each other on and off.Just as an example,there are many more. And they've had this comic running on and off since 1981!
Nardcore!
La Llorona still rawks!
Man super glad someone made a video about this super into a lot of these bands and got to hear about new ones
Imagina usar "latinx" não ironicamente.
Imagina usar latino(a)/x n ironicamente
Soy una hispana de los estados unidos y aquí la mayoría de gente que usa latinx son los ingleses-americanos, lo usan por que creen que es una tema que usamos pero no lo es. No se quien les metio ese idea en la mente.
@@briananavarrolopez9286 su ridiculez de lo políticamente correcto.
@@briananavarrolopez9286 It's a term that liberal white people came up with then tried to force of the Hispanic community.
@@haeresis_ Nunca he escuchado a una persona hispana usar ese término
Wow that one part of that los crudos song really spoke to me as a Greenlandic ( inuit) American ( white and native American) ... wow soo cool! If i did have a punk band it would be something like Los kalaalli criminals ( the criminal people) yes i used Spanish for the Greenlandic ( kalaallisut) for people and English for criminal. It would be about marngalized people and how they are treated and other subjects facing the world especially for us marginalized people
I say, please do! Can't wait yo hear your cassette tape!
@@caldehh wow really? That's sooo cool, I made a CD of me rapping in English and Greenlandic ( kalaallisut) I can't make beats worth shit, I had to record it at night when my man was asleep and I wasn't working, it sounds wierd even to me who made it lol. I did do some songs on the marnglized people part, my favorite track was the last one I did 1st world nation 3rd world problems talking about the big imbalance of the better off/ athority people and the marnglized lesser off / non athority people. If I could I'd send you a CD!!
I can get behind that
Punk is all colors...always has been - unity!
I disregard the opinions of people who unironicly use the term "latinx"
While her name is POP AMERICANA hahahaha
Stop using ‘Latinx’!
No!
Y e s
@@joshuaacosta5671 it's disrespectful to our culture and language
On god !
Literally it’s a gender neutral term for Latino/Latina
🤘🏿Sweet! Love stories like this and _A Band Called Death_ .
0:30: Yeah... "a White boy thing". Despite the fact that PoC (Black people in particular) created Rock🎸, it's so associated with White people that PoC are seen as anomolies.
Did white people create anything, oh yeah, they created thievery
@@pauledmondson5654 They created the language that your typing.
BuddyL this is a Documentary about Latin Proto Punk
@@gheleonthedriven649 loool cus no one else was speaking before white people? we are speaking this because english people would FORCE people to speak english and not their own language. Theu FORCED people to give up their own culture for CENTURIES or face punishment. You can keep it
@@pauledmondson5654 Also social class & homophobia and the idea of race 🤷🏾♀️
*Latino
can someone tell me the name of the song at 6:41 ? i have to write an essay about punk and i need an example for the latin side of punk, so if you have something you think is important please please PLEASE write it in the comments
Hell yeah taking me back! I love this! Via los punks! In crust we grind 🙌🏻🖤
Ron Reyes wasn't Black Flag's original singer (Keith Morris was) but he is considered by many to be their best
Punk and all it's derivatives (hardcore, skacore, crust, thrashcore, Oi!, grindcore, etc,) is a universal kinda thing. One of the few genres of music where ya can go to a show and see the whole rainbow of humanity in the crowd and onstage. It's a beautiful thing and one of the biggest reasons it's always been a hotbed of resistance and alternative ways of living and building a future worth having.
I'll actually never forget when I was in my mid-teens and got shipped to Florida from NYC to stay with an aunt and cousin cause I got into some trouble (again) and me and my cousin went to a show and as soon as the first song started these 2 Latinx dudes grab me and we started dancing around the pit as a three-person wrecking ball dragging people in lol I ended up becoming good friends with em later and found out they were 1st generation Mexicans, twins, surprisingly straightedge and cool as hell. We'd burn a flag at almost every show and that was just to start the night 😂 We beat down Nazis anytime they showed up and even had a routine as to how we'd go about it. They ended up moving a few years later but we've stayed in touch. Miss those cats.
Punk is for the PEOPLE!
Long Live Punk! ✊👊✌♥A///E
Latin X made me immediately change the channel
Amen for the video! Thanks!!!
I would love to listen to this music in a concentrated session. Are there any playlists on the interwebs?
To be honest, punk is pretty terrible.
Sana: It seems you do your homework so well, every time. Love the content on this channel and more power to you.
Bless this video!
Awesome video!
Why not just use the term "Latin"? That would take care of everything - no gender issues, no disrespect to the Spanish language, and everyone is included because the term is more cultural than racial. So how about it? The Very Latin History of Punk. There. Mission accomplished in all aspects!
Because Latin isn’t the same as Latino/Latina. Latin is a ancient language from Rome (Parabellum, Vini Vici Vidi, etc).
If anything using Punk Latino would be a correct grammatical use (El punk o el genero Punk would need the use of the O ending)
Get a life weirdo. I would rather be called a beaner than white liberal term. I have nothing against whites just hate the liberal elitists
Thank you so much this was awesome lots of hidden gems
Chicano rock and even country scene is and was huge in Texas also
Shout out from el paso texas
Matthew Sifuentes so country music is conservative and Texas is a republican state. None of that is punk. Los Angeles chicanos are the originators and muses of this video.
@@FA-te4yt buddy; have you ever heard of folk punk??
@@cielosphere man shut up
@@FA-te4yt Have you ever heard of the band At the Drive-In? I’m not saying California wasn’t influential, but Texas does have a punk rock scene too that’s not limited to just country music (ew). Hell, I’m Tex-Mex and we have a huge alternative scene here in San Antonio. You should come by sometime, it’s pretty rad. 🤘🏼
You should make a video on the history of punk in the middle east. Particularly in Iran. Interesting stuff right there.
Wtf really?? I had no Idea, isn’t playing in a band forbidden under sharia law??
@@mopes2713 Read Persepolis by Marjane Satrapi. She touches on western influences under Ayatollah’s regime
@@miamartinez1833 There was a similar movement of art and Freedom of expression in Spain, it gave rise to Punk in Spain. It was called the “Movida Madrileña” Iran is a beautiful country I am going to read up on it thank you.
@@mopes2713 That sounds so interesting, I’m trying to touch in with my Latina side more alongside with the punk movement. Definitely will research up on Spain. And Satrapi’s comic book is such a great read, I highly suggest it. There is also an animated movie.
Latino music and culture is often kicked aside, especially when looking back on rock, blues, punk, and metal.
So nice to see The Plugz mentioned! I still listen to them regularly.
It's Echemos, not hechemos. Funny how latin x is a term only for english speakers, in spanish, it would be latinequis, which makes no sense. But it's cool, we know gringos always want to colonize, no matter what race they are.
esteban andres alvarez barberena i don't use latinx actually, either. The only thing i colonize is a bag of doritos
I agree, it’s stupid. But that’s why it should be a real discussion, not just us getting offended to the point where our perfectly valid reason to be offended by such blatantly ignorant terms is obscured by an incoherent slurry of racial resentment. There’s no point in standing for your people if you’re just going to stoop to the level of the people who would like to walk all over us.
Por qué no está una persona latinoamericana hablando del punk en latinoamerica? Y que lo haga en español latinoamericano... Por qué? El término latinx no es nada punk. Nadie en latinoamerica lo usa, es sólo una nueva palabra que apela a lo "políticamente correcto" que se ha generado en gringolandia.
(Podemos jugar a este dilema tonto todo lo que queramos, ambos bandos).
found out about this Directly From Alice Bag and didn't even know that the New York Dolls Would Be Mentioned in this Punk Rock Documentary about Latin Proto punk
Awesome stuff!
Please comment some radical punk bands, BIPOC preferred, Latinx in particular, besides ones mentioned. : )
The Stains
Nervous Gender !
heterofobia y soga
eskorbuto
I was in an East LA punk band called Crucial Justice in the 90s. Good times and great gigs back in the day! So many fantastic bands!
"Latineks" as "inclusive language" not only does it sound horrible, it implies that Spanish syntax is sexist and therefore other languages are better.
Be real. Spanish syntax as well as all romance languages are sexist. Who are you kidding?
@@marllon9786 When you state that "Romance languages are sexist" you show ignorance regarding syntax and linguistics. Basque and Persian, for example, have no third person singular pronouns equivalent to "he" or "she". Does that mean that their speakers are non-binary and respectful of gender identities?? Basque speakers belong to a traditional Catholic region while Persian is spoken in and around Iran. Are these regions and countries examples of tolerance towards women and other non- cisgender individuals???
@@libardolucumi I can't speak to Farsi or Basque as I haven't done my own research on those languages. However, I know the usage of unisex pronouns in Sweden has accelerated the Swedish culture in being more inclusive and embracing gender equality. I am a second generation Brazilian immigrant living near Boston. Brazilian Portuguese is also a sexist language. It's too bad, because Romance languages have more flavor and are more lyrical, but name one Latin American or Latin European culture that isn't sexist... because I can't think of not even one.
Loooved this
Correction, Ron (Chavo) Reyes was not Black Flag's original singer, Keith Morris of the Circle Jerks was Black Flag's original singer.
Please stop calling us "latinx". We're Latin-Americans.
I love punk rock/Metal. Most of my favorite bands are either from latin america and caribbean.
Hell yeah! This was a great video! The Plugz are my favorite punk band; always will be.
I'm latino and i honestly think they ruined shit when they mentioned latinx.
i was gonna like the video but that ruined it for me too :/
Why did you completely ignore the Stains? That’s the first and greatest punk rock band to ever come out of East Los Angeles, and they were on Black Flag ‘s SST record label. Extremely important band!!!
And latinxs still dominate the punk scene, and the skacore / ska punk scene.
Especially Skacore.
Wtf is latinx
@@animock3051 latin(a/o) .
@@Belowone
Why not just say Latino? It's represents both Latina and Latino
@@animock3051 easier, instead of writing both
THANK YOU!!!
Also very important to note Latinx involvement in the Post Punk scene, namely death rock in LA 🖤
Death rock sucks
Cool story bro, name one deathrock band.
"latinx" is linguistic appropriation. Please stop anglicizing spanish words. It's racist, it's insulting and it's completely un-pronouncable in Spanish. It's an insult to millions of Latinos.
Peter Banderas I’m Latina. 😂
@@jchoi5066 then you should know beter than to allow our culture and languages to be corrupted by racism and linguistic appropriation.
What is the difference between someone telling us to "speak English" and someone telling us that our language is wrong and needs to be fixed to suit them?
Michelle Gonzales- Spitboy
So in love with Alice's hair!!.....I do like the mini doc.... similar to AfroPunk being introduced...This should be expounded on...I would love to see that....
So many fukin dots lol
Minor complaint/correction: The Zeros, while definitely apart of the initial Southern California punk scene, were not: A) in the first “Decline Of Western Civilization”, nor the subsequent sequels & B) Not from LA. They proudly proclaim Chula Vista home.
Seeing this video before even having seen the contents my mind jumps to Rotting Out. Such a good band.
Forgetting Alan Vega from Suicide here is unforgivable.
There is nothing “punk” about the PC term “LatinX” that term really pises me off to no end.
Is there a transcript of your amazing content available in Español, please?
Clicked on this specifically to see Los Illegals and The Plugz mentioned. 👍
The band in the beginging is called Los Crudos btw..
dodie rules lmao they literally say that bruh did u watch
Oh my god, I can't wait for the next season and what comes out. This video is amazing. I went to a hardcore show last night and it was so inspiring. With latinx punk band Rotting Out, and trans representative SeeYouSpaceCowboy, highly advocate of all great things Stick to Your Guns, and the leaders of the new wave of hardcore music Knocked Loose, seeing this video makes me want to see more of what you guys could talk about with Pop Americana and hardcore music. Drill music and its connection to violence and inner city struggles, trap metal in its rise and roots in nu metal and hardcore, queer representation in heavy music all the way back to Rob Halfrod. I know you guys could cover some amazing stuff!!!!!!
nice!!! absolutely love this.
@Connors Music dude, I LOVE punk. you have no idea. this is why I love it. I've been listening to punk for 15+ years. and that's why I'm so annoyed that I don't know about this.
@Connors Music I wonder if you listen? clearly, you are not antiestablishment if you hate this so much?
@Connors Music Damn, your assumption really pissed me off for some reason. Damnn. The only concert Ive been to out of my own volition was a punk one: a Rise Against, Anti-Flag and AFI concert. It was an honor to finally see these guys in person!
@Connors Music where did i make everything about race??? the point is these guys now have exposure. we know MORE about punk now. and identity politics?? are your serious as punks, we feel like misfits in society. punk is all about identity politics. it doesn't devalue you for your race of course.
@Connors Music PUNK IS POLITICS. FACE IT.
Some great stuff here! Thanks for the quality and for the important content. #CRUDOSOMOS
if the saicos arent here...
liquidpebbles 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
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Keith Morris was the original front man Black Flag not Ron Reyes. Sorry, Black Flag is one my favorite punk bands.
Well Ron reyes was the frontman in the decline of western civilization so he became the first thought in people's heads when thinking on pre-rollins black flag
It also doesn't make mention of the New York Hardcore scene which is renown for strong hispanic voices or of the historic punk scenes in Santiago, Chile, Montevideo, Uruguay or Buenos Aires, Argentina.
What was some of those bands the dude from los crudos was naming? Logo seco, narcosis and something else?
the Zeros were not in ''The Decline...Of Western Civilization'' the bands that were in that movie were Alice Bag Band,Black Flag,Catholic Discipline,Circle Jerks,Fear and the Band X. ' trust me i know i own ''THE DECLINE...of western civilization'' on Cassette and I use to own it on VHS but maybe there's another Version with The Zeros on it and the movie came out in 1980
I really love this, I've never came across this type of information before, and being a Latinx punk, this is really inspiring. Will definitely take inspiration from this and influence my punk band.
Please dont
Don't let guerros force you to call yourself LatinX
You have to much soy in your diet.
@@javiervega1065 and vaheenah
Thank you. I had no idea.
Holy cool!!
Podrian dejar de usar el termino "latinx" que no soy capas de pronunciarlo y suena horrible cuando ustedes los gringos lo dicen, si quieren ser "inclusibos" usen latinos y latinas o latin@s, tambien se me hace que solo habla de bandas en usa y no de las bandas de barrios pupulares que tocan por pación.
pan :P Somos Latinos no latinx
Latinx, latin@AOaO...a quien xuxa le importa como pija quieras hablar
@@XGRIFOXRUIDOX420 Exacto
Creen que nos gusta ser llamados ese nombre estúpido.
@@schnoz2372 Típico de yanqui
The plural of vinyl is vinyl. Just fyi
Mannn tht intro Is sickk
Wish dis video came with a playlist
Literally sameeeee. Like where do I start??