**Any comments disputing the speed of the train in a negative manner will be deleted. The speeds of passenger trains on this line are GPS tracked and can be seen in real time daily**
Drivers see a train far off in the distance while the gates are down, thinking they can beat the train only to find out it goes much faster than the standard 79 mph.
The most dangerous thing that people underestimate about trains is the speed if they're looking at it from the front only and thinking it's slow moving. Exactly like how a tornado doesn't seem to move horizontally fast if it's coming your way.
@@PereMarquette1223Really loved the video. When looking at the right of way it scared me a little bit how unprotected that line is from people casually walking along it and all. Or maybe there were some fences I didn't see. When I was visiting over in France one time and riding on a train that was almost that fast, not one of their really high speed ones, they had a right away that wasn't well protected as well and I got almost knocked off my feet except I grabbed one of the seats and it turned out the train had to do close to an emergency stop because some cows had gotten onto the tracks. But anyway, I love nicely shot videos of trains and I'm not surprised your videos have gotten this many views. I watched it a few times myself. And to anybody reading this, I encourage you to go look at some of his other videos, If you'd like trains. Of course, I'm one of those people who can't possibly understand anyone who doesn't like a good train. 😁
@@2ndfloorsongs the rural locations like this one don’t have fences but in towns the line is fenced off. Amtrak has plans to fence the whole thing off, which in my opinion is a waste but more power to them
@@PereMarquette1223 I've noticed, and I think it's an objective observation, that people don't seem to pay as much attention to tracks anymore. My maybe because they aren't as aware of trains as they used to be. I realize that roads where people travel almost as fast don't have fences, so it's probably not necessary as a car hitting you at that speed, well not as devastating as a train, probably leaves you dead just as often. When I was traveling in Europe, I first thought of making sure my driver's license was okay and renting a car and then I discovered what they said is true: There's truly superb rail service with interconnecting buses and I can pretty much walk anywhere in Germany that's close to an urban place and go anywhere to anywhere inexpensively. And I mean they really have that place covered, you really didn't need a car. Sigh. The US is really backward when it comes to this. Though I guess I shouldn't say backward as the US used to have a good rail system and urban system before the oil companies bought up all streetcar lines and the interurban lines and closed them down. I found that hard to believe at first but I've since read well documented histories and that's exactly what they did. When I was a kid my grandfather used to visit us every weekend, he lived in Houston and we lived in Baytown a medium size town about 20 mi from us. On a Sunday he could get a bus in Houston and go to the Interurban line and get another bus that let him off within a few blocks of our house. It was also easy to go down to Galveston from Baytown which was about 40 miles. They had regular rail service to their in Baytown actually had a station, the same one my grandfather got off at. But all that's gone now And I guess it isn't coming back. Anyway, it's nice watching the trains in your videos, keep up the good work.
Great zoom shot! I thought how can the train be traveling as fast as he says. When you zoomed out, it put things into perspective. Loved the light conditions and sound of the birds too.
Ive been parked at a crossing that was elevated when an intercity 125 came past at full beans. It scared the crap out of me. You can tell this thing is flying just by the sound of the air its pushing
That’s some nasty track for 110!!!! Former NS conductor on the Toledo to Pittsburgh and our track looked better than that and we were limited to 60, most places 50!
How do you figure it’s nasty? This is by FAR the best mainline in terms of condition in the state of Michigan and one of the BEST in the country. A “nasty” railroad would not get a federally approved speed limit of 110, which requires special qualifications to allow trains to run at these speeds. The zoom on the camera is more then likely distorting the appearance of some things.
I thought it was at first, but I'm pretty sure those hilly sections are more than a quarter mile long each. They're quite far away, and the angle is almost head-on.
The Broadway Limited would have sometimes been going faster than 110 on portions of your Chicago to Pittsburgh route when the Pennsylvania Railroad was running it.
I’m no expert but that looked like a slow 110 mph. I was always under the impression that train followed post speed limit as they travelled through cities /towns. Where in the US is speed posted at 110?
It is 110. In fact on this day my buddy was with me and they did 111 mph through here. The camera angle does not do it justice. This rail line between New Buffalo and Kalamazoo is the Amtrak Michigan Line, and it is a recognized high speed rail corridor. Signs dictating the speed limit are posted along the ROW and the track is rated as such by the FRA.
Glad you enjoy it. I plan on doing a remake of this in the future to celebrate the milestone of this video. Hope that it is more stable and less shaky.
It was just a cam corder I was borrowing at the time. I stopped using it because it was too sensitive to ground vibrations. The one I use now has a similar zoom that doesn’t go as far, but it’s not noticeable
@@Real-Tecnica I don’t remember what it was, it was an older white video camera that I was borrowing at the time. It was beyond a camcorder too, but I later bought a similar one
Just an older video camera that I actually don’t use now cause the stability stinks. I had to replace it with an equally capable camera that had better stability
@@TonyTheTruckGuy absolutely, and as I tried to state the camera and angle does not do it justice. If you were there, you’d get a better angle. I plan on revisiting this spot in the future and doing a different angle to better demonstrate the speed.
Does the United States have train tracks meant for +100 mph apart from the Northeast Corridor? In Canada, the only fastest train tracks I can think of is The Corridor, but the speed limit is only 95 mph.
Speed limit on this part of the Michigan Line is 110, not 95. It’s slowly being upgraded to 110 everywhere. There are a few lines in Illinois and some new ones in Florida and California also receiving upgrades to 100mph plus
Around 40 seconds from crossing bell to the train being on the crossing. Absolutely zero chance the train could check itself enough to respond to a problem. In other countries, for highway crossings, the time lags from trigger to arrival are measured in minutes; on many crossings signalling only allows trains to proceed on confirmation the crossing is clear. No wonder US railcars are built like Dreadnought battleships and Brightline trains are picking off pickups once a week. The risk profiles are all backwards. Appalling.
😂😂😂 you clearly do not do your homework. The differences here are as follows. To start, the brilliant people in Florida in Brightline’s case people ignore the crossing signals and go around the gates. Even in instances where there are at least 4 gates to completely block a crossing people try to rush them or plow right through them. That is not the railroad’s fault. People are their own worst enemy. Here on the Michigan Line, Grade crossing incidents on this line are basically zero and many crossings have been eliminated in the process. The people here know how fast these go, and respect the trains’ speeds. Everything you see here is at FRA levels of safety, since the federal government owns, operates and maintains this high speed rail corridor. It is Easily a Top 5 railroad in terms of safety and quality of the equipment. Speaking of equipment, all of the newer locomotives and cars are built by European companies in the US using European designs, so saying they are built like a battleship is completely false. Check itself to respond to a problem? Not sure what you mean. Slower trains have problems too, and take equally as long to deal with. Most of that equipment is privately owned and operated by private companies. Equipment of this type is checked regularly and rigorously before runs considering the cargo they carry. While human error is not completely eliminated, the risk profiles are no different then that of any other job or form of transportation.
Saying that crossing abuse ‘isn't the railroad's problem' lacks credibility - in the best case, collisions damage RR equipment, cause delay, increase insurance costs and make people think rail is unsafe. Collisions traumatise engineers and rail staff, and in the worst case can lead to injury or death for staff and passengers. Local awareness is definitely worth noting and I appreciate the differences between FL and MI, but it's far from reliable - people visit from out of town. People drink and drive, or drive tired. How good are 'FRA levels of safety'? Whoever manufactures the rolling stock, those FRA regulations require higher crash resilience than many other countries, which sounds good until you realise that's to compensate for the basic lack of preventative or avoiding measures in any other part of the whole system. There would be no need to build cars that way in Germany, France or Britain. This increases the cost of passenger rail for much less benefit, increases the chance of death or serious injury for road vehicle occupants in a collision, and makes the infrastructure costlier to deal with higher axle mass. The train covers 4½ miles in this video and meets three grade crossings, so at this location at least very little crossing elimination appears to have been done. By 'check itself' I meant the engineer's chance to stop the train rather than checking the equipment (poor choice of words by me). It's basically zero at these closing speeds. All the bells and barriers are doing is warning cars of imminent threat. They add no value in terms of actively preventing collisions and ensuring a fail safe condition.
@@tomdarling-fernley3178 the crossings you see minus the one I am standing at are rural dirt roads which have light traffic. All crossings in the high speed areas have extra signage warning of the high speeds along with ample warning time. Much like a traffic light or a stop sign, the crossing signals are not designed to fully prevent you from crossing when they are activated. The gates are super easy to drive through if you don’t care about damaging your car. You will always have people who find a way to try and beat the trains. Signaled crossings by default are designed to be fail safe. If they malfunction it’s because something about them is not right. That’s the neat thing about how the crossings in this country are set up. Higher crash resilience doesn’t mean anything when it comes to speed here since trains in Europe and Asia travel at much higher speeds then we do. It has nothing to do about avoiding preventative measures or anything else like that. The folks in Europe laugh at our “high speed rail”, and they have every right to, but their safety is no different then ours. I understand the human variable cannot be removed, but when you look at past wrecks involving Amtrak on other lines in the past all have involved the host railroad (Amtrak mostly operates on other railroads track) or people racing to beat the train. In places such as the Michigan Line and NE corridor, wrecks are basically nonexistent. Amtrak runs and manages these lines. Trains have the right of way, so if someone fouls the line with a vehicle or whatnot engineers are supposed to hit whatever is in their way and then stop safely if able to do so. Throwing on the brakes risks causing a derailment due to the momentum of the cars behind you especially on longer trains, and can actually cause more harm then good. Train crews are usually first responders, so they see some nasty things. I’ve known people who have killed individuals on the job, and there is nothing they can do. If you work on a train crew long enough you will see someone get hit in a vehicle, killed, ran over etc… it’s just the nature of the job unfortunately. Suicides are also very prevalent, especially on this line in particular. The cost of rail travel doesn’t go up simply because a car is hit. Cars are hit everywhere everyday by trains. The occupants of the vehicles are always at fault, not the train. If you play chicken with a train that has thousands of tons of metal behind it or in this case is moving at 110mph then you are just asking for a Darwin Award. Amtrak also has plans to fence off this entire railroad in between crossings. Not just some tiny wire fence either a legitimate fence. It won’t prevent things from happening completely but it’s the best they can do and that’s what their insurance wants them to do. It will force anyone who wants to cross to do it in a legal location. Railroads have some of the best insurance in the country and it’s not cheap but it covers all of your concerns that you had. All of the modern equipment has many ways to alert crews if something is wrong on the train while it is in motion. Sensors are in place everywhere. Most of it is computerized. These modern engines and coaches have many systems in place to prevent such issues or catch them in transit so that the train can be stopped in a safe manner or alerted to a potential problem. Train travel has been and always will be a viable option for travel, and has just as many risks as other forms of travel. You cannot eliminate the risks no matter how you travel. This discussion is fun by the way. Totally serious I love it.
The new Brightline trains from orlando to miami travel in excess of 100. I tried to pace it from state road 528. I was doing 100 and it walked away from me
Brightline is the way things SHOULD be done. Privately funded and building their own ROW… it’s unheard of and a legitimate threat to Amtrak. If other states catch on, it will be a big problem for Amtrak going forward.
@@PereMarquette1223 A little is more than nothing. And I understand your point. My Grandfather was with CNR-Toronto for 52 years. I was riding boxcars & caboose with him when I was a boy. I study Geology out in Oregon and love trains. Ever read 'A work of Giants’? I do like your video. Cheers
@@Taskerofpuppets the tracks are simply moving ever so slightly due to the weight passing over them. Nothing seismic about it. Roads and bridges are designed to do the same.
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Oh I agree! The problem is money and the existing lines are privately owned for the most part. If we are to get high speed lines in this country it will have to be all new construction.
@@2teethPogZa it’s not that they aren’t capable for passenger they just have to meet a certain criteria and usually the freight railroads have to host them which they aren’t fond of.
Yeah America definitely lags behind in the speed category. Our fastest rail lines are still under 140mph. People for whatever reason don’t seem to care much for trains here
Amtrak Michigan Line is the name of the line (no subdivision on the entire thing), and the milepost is visible in the video. Not sure what you mean by timetable, as Amtrak no longer makes paper timetables.
I would assume just as another visibility measure in all honesty. They definitely grab your attention especially at night. Just as much as those blinding LED’s up front
@@PereMarquette1223 But my calculations were rough, neither accounted for angle nor perfectly timed. So not contesting. But will stick with my estimate.
@@sundareshvenugopal6575 as noted in the pinned comment. The trains are GPS tracked with a live feed on speeds. The train registered 111mph on that, and the posted speed limit is 110mph.
It’s kinda when you look at an aircraft that’s airborne and you’re like no way 600 mph but yep it’s flying that fast.It’s an optical illusion.It’s pretty cool.
Just goes to show you how educated the human population is. I’ve had some people tell me that this is maybe 50th tops and I gotta be wondering where they are getting their drugs from cause that stuff is really effective lol
If Amtrak were 110 mph (180 kph) system-wide, the world would be a better place and you Could go from Washington DC to Chicago in 6.5 hours, or NY to Atlanta in 8 hours. Who would want to drive that when there was a train?
If they had their own track it would definitely help… the freight carriers don’t do them any favors. Still… riding versus driving is still the better option in my opinion.
@@PereMarquette1223 110mph would be a doable speed if we could get past the freight companies. Amtrak equipment can handle that speed now. What kind of sleepers are they using? It is a welded rail, right?
@@eottoe2001 it’s not the equipment that’s the issue it’s the track conditions and Amtrak getting precedent over freights (which is supposed to happen but doesn’t). These trains do not need sleepers and the welded rail you see here replaced welded rail installed by Conrail.
@@PereMarquette1223 I get that. The tech to get 110 or 120 is here now. As much as I would like a New York to Chicago Shinkansen, what your videos shows is what is doable and would change rail travel in the US.
@@eottoe2001 almost all of the equipment in this video is state funded as well, so it all depends on what the government Is willing to pay for in the long run.
Most of that was due to the camera I was using. The ground doesn’t shake all that much. This camera was particularly sensitive to any vibrations and thats why I quit using it. Bummer because the zoom was fantastic
@@PereMarquette1223 is there a way to prop it up so as to lessen vibrations? To construct something that has sway maybe, or even put it in a tree somehow. I don't know, just spitballing.
@@dubaiedge I tried everything and anything with this camera… it simply was just too sensitive by default. I switched to a different one, same manufacturer and almost identical and it fixed the issue. Not sure why this happened to this one.
@@dubaiedge camcorders and such has anti-vibration equipment installed into them that stabilizes the footage to avoid this. For whatever reason no matter what I did and how much I messed with the settings or tried to weigh the camera done it didn’t help. I almost always film with a tripod. I use a different camera now that basically is the same thing and I have no issues besides that the batteries don’t last as long but I’m working on that.
@@PereMarquette1223 yes, I'm from Spain. We have a different transportation system, we are also a smaller country, but I hope that high speed rail will come to the USA sooner rather than later. I still remember that during the last Obama administration a technical delegation was in Spain on official visit taking details of how high speed had been carried out here, with the idea of doing something similar in the States, I do not know if there has been any progress since then.
at first I was like "naaaaah that's way to slow for 150+ kph" but then the camera zoom decreased and and I was like "oh shit, that was zoomed in... that thing HAULS AT MACH JESUS"
That's my point.. the train is Private, NOT owned by the Fed, the track is fed owned.. the service is incredible.. I went on Amtrak. and Brightline makes Amtrak look like it's form 1985. very high end, the girls that work there are super polite, pretty, everyone has a smile and is ready to help, very clean on and on time.. it is worth every penny.. and unlike Amtrak that has NOT made a profit in almost 50 years.. Bright line is making money. @@PereMarquette1223
No you're not... Brightline doesn't run their trains that fast yet... They've tested them that fast. Also Florida could've had government funded highspeed rail but their corrupt government messed that up because Rick Scott and Friends had money invested into All Aboard Florida.
I wish they had kept the tight shot until the train ran through the dip evident in the foreground. that should not be in a track qualified for 100 mph, in my estimation.
You mean me? That dip is yards long… it’s not a sudden drop. This is among one of if not the best railroads in the country. Millions of dollars have gone into making it what it is today. The trains run at these speeds daily, and they never have any issues because of it. The ride is smooth, and the track is maintained to a standard that is higher then the majority of the nation’s rail network. You have to get federal permission to run at these speeds. The zoom just emphasizes the minor dips, they are no where near as bad as they appear and nobody is in any danger
Many have been eliminated with bridges or just outright removed, only the necessary ones were left in. All are gated, even in places where the crossings are private.
Yeah. They definitely have the speed game figured out. The destruction from war inadvertently helped modernize their infrastructure to make it more efficient and more effective.
I have no idea what the rules have to do with anything but considering they own it I would assume so. NS might handle some spots but it depends, since they are contracted to handle the freight traffic where it exists.
You aren’t disputing the speed of the train. This line is specifically a high speed rail corridor, so it has special permissions and certifications to run at these speeds. It will make 70 seem like you are barely moving at all.
The opening scene of this video could be the opening credits scene of a 1968 coming of age drama about a new high school graduate Matt (Jeff Bridges) during the summer before shipping off to Vietnam. He gets his girlfriend Beth (Maureen McCormick in her first role with a nude scene) pregnant. Matt returns home 2 years later all grown up to find the girlfriend, who was kicked out of her house by her pastor father, living with his widowed father. She's gained 150 pounds. She's been sleeping with Matt's father (Orson Welles) and now has a second child by him. Matt meets his 2 year old child and his new brother at the same time. Matt gets a job at the local Poulan factory making chainsaw motors, and tries to adjust to civilian life. A few months later, Beth continues to gain weight and Matt returns home, walking in on Beth and his dad engaging in an unspeakable form of sexual intercourse. He pauses; watching the act to completion. The next day, Matt calmly steals a Model 306a chainsaw from work and moves to Texas. He gets a job as a butcher and moves in with a family who kindly open their home and welcome him into their lives. Fearing he'll be found and arrested for his theft, Matt changes his name to Bubba.
next time see on max F.L., let the train fill the frame, but instead of zooming back (which tends to merely point out what a swell piece of glass you own)do let the train FILL the frame, and then slowly pull out with it, keeping max interest in the colossus evolving in front of our eyes..when you zip back full wide i think it kills the shot, actually turns it into two shots, which perhaps was your intent if you capturing stuff for a longer sequence: dead automobile car off the tracks, or a little kid chasing a ball to the tracks, or some other brio silent movie schitck,..- in such a scase, makes sense so snag two different shots from the same set up -- if not, it is kind o' silly B DUNLAP
**Any comments disputing the speed of the train in a negative manner will be deleted. The speeds of passenger trains on this line are GPS tracked and can be seen in real time daily**
the frame duration and train length seem to indicate 106.9 (nice) mph as it goes past the camera, but that was a decent downhill over in the distance.
@@chompette_ very nice, you are the first to actually think about it and not just assume. GPS trackers had them at 111mph so you were close.
@@chompette_ (nice) (nice). High five bro.
@@chompette_ What is the train length?
@@3dprintedhardware that I do not know. If I had to guess it’s just under 1000 feet.
Wow. That's some zoom.
Indeed! Incredible zoom on that camera!😮
Came here to say same thing
Drivers see a train far off in the distance while the gates are down, thinking they can beat the train only to find out it goes much faster than the standard 79 mph.
Love hearing all the birds😊
Yeah the ambience at the beginning was something I liked too
So does my cat!!
ThAT is some Zoom Lens you got there!
Very nice zoom on those lenses, maybe an experienced photographer would notice on first sight, but i was genuinely surprised with the close up level.
The most dangerous thing that people underestimate about trains is the speed if they're looking at it from the front only and thinking it's slow moving.
Exactly like how a tornado doesn't seem to move horizontally fast if it's coming your way.
1:23 really shows how sound travels
That it does. Hope to redo this video soon
Until it got to his crossing, I thought the sound wasn't synced up with the video lmao
“There’s no way that train is moving at 110 MPH. That bell would have to start miles before it arrives.”
*camera zooms back to normal*
“Oh…”
I was thinking the same!
Yeah, I believe the bells on this line are set to go off a full 30 seconds or so before the train enters the road. Everything is gated too.
@@PereMarquette1223Really loved the video. When looking at the right of way it scared me a little bit how unprotected that line is from people casually walking along it and all. Or maybe there were some fences I didn't see. When I was visiting over in France one time and riding on a train that was almost that fast, not one of their really high speed ones, they had a right away that wasn't well protected as well and I got almost knocked off my feet except I grabbed one of the seats and it turned out the train had to do close to an emergency stop because some cows had gotten onto the tracks. But anyway, I love nicely shot videos of trains and I'm not surprised your videos have gotten this many views. I watched it a few times myself. And to anybody reading this, I encourage you to go look at some of his other videos, If you'd like trains. Of course, I'm one of those people who can't possibly understand anyone who doesn't like a good train. 😁
@@2ndfloorsongs the rural locations like this one don’t have fences but in towns the line is fenced off. Amtrak has plans to fence the whole thing off, which in my opinion is a waste but more power to them
@@PereMarquette1223 I've noticed, and I think it's an objective observation, that people don't seem to pay as much attention to tracks anymore. My maybe because they aren't as aware of trains as they used to be. I realize that roads where people travel almost as fast don't have fences, so it's probably not necessary as a car hitting you at that speed, well not as devastating as a train, probably leaves you dead just as often. When I was traveling in Europe, I first thought of making sure my driver's license was okay and renting a car and then I discovered what they said is true: There's truly superb rail service with interconnecting buses and I can pretty much walk anywhere in Germany that's close to an urban place and go anywhere to anywhere inexpensively. And I mean they really have that place covered, you really didn't need a car. Sigh. The US is really backward when it comes to this. Though I guess I shouldn't say backward as the US used to have a good rail system and urban system before the oil companies bought up all streetcar lines and the interurban lines and closed them down. I found that hard to believe at first but I've since read well documented histories and that's exactly what they did. When I was a kid my grandfather used to visit us every weekend, he lived in Houston and we lived in Baytown a medium size town about 20 mi from us. On a Sunday he could get a bus in Houston and go to the Interurban line and get another bus that let him off within a few blocks of our house. It was also easy to go down to Galveston from Baytown which was about 40 miles. They had regular rail service to their in Baytown actually had a station, the same one my grandfather got off at. But all that's gone now And I guess it isn't coming back. Anyway, it's nice watching the trains in your videos, keep up the good work.
That sounds awesome at 110 mph
I love to see Amtrak trains traveling at a speed almost equal to the slowest trains in Europe. Way to go!
Blame America’s favoritism towards cars and planes for that.
@@PereMarquette1223 soon...
@@GhostScout42 some trains on the Northeast Corridor are being tested to 150mph
Very pretty video. The ambiance is great
That zoom in and out is crazy...
Great zoom shot! I thought how can the train be traveling as fast as he says. When you zoomed out, it put things into perspective.
Loved the light conditions and sound of the birds too.
THAT WAS FIRE.
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Ive been parked at a crossing that was elevated when an intercity 125 came past at full beans. It scared the crap out of me. You can tell this thing is flying just by the sound of the air its pushing
Absolutely. If I leave the camera too close it is at risk of being pushed over by the amount of air this thing moves.
That wide zoom was epic!!
Love the look of the new siemens kits. I see them on the 18th street yard in chicago often. But never at speed.
Good to see loco hauled train alive and well in the US.
That’s some nasty track for 110!!!! Former NS conductor on the Toledo to Pittsburgh and our track looked better than that and we were limited to 60, most places 50!
How do you figure it’s nasty? This is by FAR the best mainline in terms of condition in the state of Michigan and one of the BEST in the country. A “nasty” railroad would not get a federally approved speed limit of 110, which requires special qualifications to allow trains to run at these speeds. The zoom on the camera is more then likely distorting the appearance of some things.
I thought it was at first, but I'm pretty sure those hilly sections are more than a quarter mile long each. They're quite far away, and the angle is almost head-on.
the zoom effect
The Broadway Limited would have sometimes been going faster than 110 on portions of your Chicago to Pittsburgh route when the Pennsylvania Railroad was running it.
Wow, great zoom, wonderful to see the distance at which the crossing signals engage, then there train going by at 3 million
Whoever shot this knew what they were doing, that zoom is crazy!
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I’m no expert but that looked like a slow 110 mph. I was always under the impression that train followed post speed limit as they travelled through cities /towns. Where in the US is speed posted at 110?
It is 110. In fact on this day my buddy was with me and they did 111 mph through here. The camera angle does not do it justice.
This rail line between New Buffalo and Kalamazoo is the Amtrak Michigan Line, and it is a recognized high speed rail corridor. Signs dictating the speed limit are posted along the ROW and the track is rated as such by the FRA.
Great video and the zoom om that camera is amazing!
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Ok that was cool. At first I thought no way is that going 110, but then the camera went back to normal. The train was cruising!
It’s crazy that they allow that speed on those warped rails ….
They are not warped. It is an optical illusion due to the camera zoom.
When the camera shakes as the cars scream by it looks so awesome. It's like I can feel it too hahaha.
Glad you enjoy it. I plan on doing a remake of this in the future to celebrate the milestone of this video. Hope that it is more stable and less shaky.
That is SOME camera lens!!!
Could see a footprint on the moon with that zoom
A week later and we hit 10,000! Thank you!
Cool video. I like the locked down telephoto shot. Dramatic 👍
Great video! Thanks for sharing!!
I saw 110mph at New Buffalo, MI once - definitely a sight to see. What zoom lens are you using on that camera? 700mm?
It was just a cam corder I was borrowing at the time. I stopped using it because it was too sensitive to ground vibrations. The one I use now has a similar zoom that doesn’t go as far, but it’s not noticeable
@@PereMarquette1223 the zoom is incredible! I like long shots like that showing the track contour.
What camcorder is that ?
@@Real-Tecnica I don’t remember what it was, it was an older white video camera that I was borrowing at the time. It was beyond a camcorder too, but I later bought a similar one
It’s over 9000! 😂 thank you everyone! (If ya know ya know)
What kind of Black Magic zoom is that? Is that a lens or telescope 😅
Just an older video camera that I actually don’t use now cause the stability stinks. I had to replace it with an equally capable camera that had better stability
Omg I thought it would never come. Thing was definitely moving but just doesn’t look like 110 mph
It was actually clocked at 111mph by the GPS tracker on board that day.
@@PereMarquette1223 I believe you it just doesn’t look quite that fast. Hard to judge something that big on camera though lol
@@TonyTheTruckGuy absolutely, and as I tried to state the camera and angle does not do it justice. If you were there, you’d get a better angle. I plan on revisiting this spot in the future and doing a different angle to better demonstrate the speed.
@@PereMarquette1223 The camera shake definitely gives you a bit better idea of how the train is moving though haha
@@TonyTheTruckGuy which is funny since the ground barely shakes at all. I got rid of that camera because it was too sensitive to shaking
The Amtrak “Wolverine” train between Detroit & Chicago frequently hits 110+ in southwestern Michigan.
All of the Wolverines and Blue Water trains hit 110 through here barring any speed restrictions
Does the United States have train tracks meant for +100 mph apart from the Northeast Corridor?
In Canada, the only fastest train tracks I can think of is The Corridor, but the speed limit is only 95 mph.
Speed limit on this part of the Michigan Line is 110, not 95. It’s slowly being upgraded to 110 everywhere.
There are a few lines in Illinois and some new ones in Florida and California also receiving upgrades to 100mph plus
@@PereMarquette1223 Sweet. It's not a very cheap infrastructure upgrade, I can imagine.
@@Bammer2001 nope. A lot of federal money, minus the one in Florida. That’s all private
@@PereMarquette1223 Ow, ow, OUCH. 😢
@@Bammer2001 huh?
Around 40 seconds from crossing bell to the train being on the crossing. Absolutely zero chance the train could check itself enough to respond to a problem. In other countries, for highway crossings, the time lags from trigger to arrival are measured in minutes; on many crossings signalling only allows trains to proceed on confirmation the crossing is clear. No wonder US railcars are built like Dreadnought battleships and Brightline trains are picking off pickups once a week. The risk profiles are all backwards. Appalling.
😂😂😂 you clearly do not do your homework.
The differences here are as follows. To start, the brilliant people in Florida in Brightline’s case people ignore the crossing signals and go around the gates. Even in instances where there are at least 4 gates to completely block a crossing people try to rush them or plow right through them. That is not the railroad’s fault. People are their own worst enemy.
Here on the Michigan Line, Grade crossing incidents on this line are basically zero and many crossings have been eliminated in the process. The people here know how fast these go, and respect the trains’ speeds. Everything you see here is at FRA levels of safety, since the federal government owns, operates and maintains this high speed rail corridor. It is Easily a Top 5 railroad in terms of safety and quality of the equipment. Speaking of equipment, all of the newer locomotives and cars are built by European companies in the US using European designs, so saying they are built like a battleship is completely false.
Check itself to respond to a problem? Not sure what you mean. Slower trains have problems too, and take equally as long to deal with. Most of that equipment is privately owned and operated by private companies. Equipment of this type is checked regularly and rigorously before runs considering the cargo they carry. While human error is not completely eliminated, the risk profiles are no different then that of any other job or form of transportation.
Saying that crossing abuse ‘isn't the railroad's problem' lacks credibility - in the best case, collisions damage RR equipment, cause delay, increase insurance costs and make people think rail is unsafe. Collisions traumatise engineers and rail staff, and in the worst case can lead to injury or death for staff and passengers.
Local awareness is definitely worth noting and I appreciate the differences between FL and MI, but it's far from reliable - people visit from out of town. People drink and drive, or drive tired. How good are 'FRA levels of safety'? Whoever manufactures the rolling stock, those FRA regulations require higher crash resilience than many other countries, which sounds good until you realise that's to compensate for the basic lack of preventative or avoiding measures in any other part of the whole system. There would be no need to build cars that way in Germany, France or Britain. This increases the cost of passenger rail for much less benefit, increases the chance of death or serious injury for road vehicle occupants in a collision, and makes the infrastructure costlier to deal with higher axle mass.
The train covers 4½ miles in this video and meets three grade crossings, so at this location at least very little crossing elimination appears to have been done. By 'check itself' I meant the engineer's chance to stop the train rather than checking the equipment (poor choice of words by me). It's basically zero at these closing speeds. All the bells and barriers are doing is warning cars of imminent threat. They add no value in terms of actively preventing collisions and ensuring a fail safe condition.
@@tomdarling-fernley3178 the crossings you see minus the one I am standing at are rural dirt roads which have light traffic. All crossings in the high speed areas have extra signage warning of the high speeds along with ample warning time. Much like a traffic light or a stop sign, the crossing signals are not designed to fully prevent you from crossing when they are activated. The gates are super easy to drive through if you don’t care about damaging your car. You will always have people who find a way to try and beat the trains. Signaled crossings by default are designed to be fail safe. If they malfunction it’s because something about them is not right. That’s the neat thing about how the crossings in this country are set up.
Higher crash resilience doesn’t mean anything when it comes to speed here since trains in Europe and Asia travel at much higher speeds then we do. It has nothing to do about avoiding preventative measures or anything else like that. The folks in Europe laugh at our “high speed rail”, and they have every right to, but their safety is no different then ours. I understand the human variable cannot be removed, but when you look at past wrecks involving Amtrak on other lines in the past all have involved the host railroad (Amtrak mostly operates on other railroads track) or people racing to beat the train. In places such as the Michigan Line and NE corridor, wrecks are basically nonexistent. Amtrak runs and manages these lines.
Trains have the right of way, so if someone fouls the line with a vehicle or whatnot engineers are supposed to hit whatever is in their way and then stop safely if able to do so. Throwing on the brakes risks causing a derailment due to the momentum of the cars behind you especially on longer trains, and can actually cause more harm then good. Train crews are usually first responders, so they see some nasty things. I’ve known people who have killed individuals on the job, and there is nothing they can do. If you work on a train crew long enough you will see someone get hit in a vehicle, killed, ran over etc… it’s just the nature of the job unfortunately. Suicides are also very prevalent, especially on this line in particular. The cost of rail travel doesn’t go up simply because a car is hit. Cars are hit everywhere everyday by trains. The occupants of the vehicles are always at fault, not the train. If you play chicken with a train that has thousands of tons of metal behind it or in this case is moving at 110mph then you are just asking for a Darwin Award. Amtrak also has plans to fence off this entire railroad in between crossings. Not just some tiny wire fence either a legitimate fence. It won’t prevent things from happening completely but it’s the best they can do and that’s what their insurance wants them to do. It will force anyone who wants to cross to do it in a legal location. Railroads have some of the best insurance in the country and it’s not cheap but it covers all of your concerns that you had.
All of the modern equipment has many ways to alert crews if something is wrong on the train while it is in motion. Sensors are in place everywhere. Most of it is computerized. These modern engines and coaches have many systems in place to prevent such issues or catch them in transit so that the train can be stopped in a safe manner or alerted to a potential problem. Train travel has been and always will be a viable option for travel, and has just as many risks as other forms of travel. You cannot eliminate the risks no matter how you travel.
This discussion is fun by the way. Totally serious I love it.
The new Brightline trains from orlando to miami travel in excess of 100. I tried to pace it from state road 528. I was doing 100 and it walked away from me
Brightline is the way things SHOULD be done. Privately funded and building their own ROW… it’s unheard of and a legitimate threat to Amtrak. If other states catch on, it will be a big problem for Amtrak going forward.
What a lovely countryside morning. That thing did zoom on those rather warped un even gauge kine. .
The gauge is not warped or uneven. Southwestern Michigan is very hilly
@@PereMarquette1223 Sure, regardless there is organic seismic shifting.
@@Taskerofpuppets there is little to no seismic activity in Michigan
@@PereMarquette1223 A little is more than nothing. And I understand your point. My Grandfather was with CNR-Toronto for 52 years. I was riding boxcars & caboose with him when I was a boy. I study Geology out in Oregon and love trains. Ever read 'A work of Giants’? I do like your video. Cheers
@@Taskerofpuppets the tracks are simply moving ever so slightly due to the weight passing over them. Nothing seismic about it. Roads and bridges are designed to do the same.
In the background at 1:53 the signal changes from red to green
Coming from Decatur headed to Lawton. Nice catch.
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That was cool. Did you shoot this with the Hubble? Amazing zoom shot there.
Haha that’s a good one, haven’t heard that before. Thank you for the laugh. Needed that after watching my Lions loose yesterday 😭
It's like watching a C-5 in flight. Because it's so large, the speed is deceptive....right up until the moment it isn't.
Imagine high speed rail lines in the US... everytime I think about that my brain just runs wild of how many cities could be connected by one!
Oh I agree! The problem is money and the existing lines are privately owned for the most part. If we are to get high speed lines in this country it will have to be all new construction.
@@PereMarquette1223 yeah I heard that the rail lines in the US are literally only compatible for freight trains which made me go like... wtf?
@@2teethPogZa it’s not that they aren’t capable for passenger they just have to meet a certain criteria and usually the freight railroads have to host them which they aren’t fond of.
Fantastic zoom!
But slow trains! If you want see super fast train, come in Italia.
Yeah America definitely lags behind in the speed category. Our fastest rail lines are still under 140mph. People for whatever reason don’t seem to care much for trains here
Sud division, mp and timetable?
Amtrak Michigan Line is the name of the line (no subdivision on the entire thing), and the milepost is visible in the video.
Not sure what you mean by timetable, as Amtrak no longer makes paper timetables.
What are the strobes up top for?
I would assume just as another visibility measure in all honesty. They definitely grab your attention especially at night. Just as much as those blinding LED’s up front
As soon as the horn honks or bells chime the strobes flash
At least. Seems to be doing considerably more.
Nope, it’s actually doing 111 mph.
@@PereMarquette1223 But my calculations were rough, neither accounted for angle nor perfectly timed. So not contesting. But will stick with my estimate.
@@sundareshvenugopal6575 as noted in the pinned comment. The trains are GPS tracked with a live feed on speeds. The train registered 111mph on that, and the posted speed limit is 110mph.
What kind of camera are you using?
It was an older Canon Video Camera, I don’t remember the model
amazing filming bro thats eleite
It’s kinda when you look at an aircraft that’s airborne and you’re like no way 600 mph but yep it’s flying that fast.It’s an optical illusion.It’s pretty cool.
Just goes to show you how educated the human population is. I’ve had some people tell me that this is maybe 50th tops and I gotta be wondering where they are getting their drugs from cause that stuff is really effective lol
We getting closer to NEC speeds w/ this one
It’ll never go above 110
@@PereMarquette1223
Rebuild the entire line then, we can straighten out curves so we can finally get to 125
We need to get to NEC frequency
@@qjtvaddict why? No where near as many people and the line isn’t built that way. By the time you’d get up to 135 you have to slow right back down.
@@R162A-1-trainlol what? How about fox other lines to allow for 100-110nph speed?
If Amtrak were 110 mph (180 kph) system-wide, the world would be a better place and you Could go from Washington DC to Chicago in 6.5 hours, or NY to Atlanta in 8 hours. Who would want to drive that when there was a train?
If they had their own track it would definitely help… the freight carriers don’t do them any favors.
Still… riding versus driving is still the better option in my opinion.
@@PereMarquette1223 110mph would be a doable speed if we could get past the freight companies. Amtrak equipment can handle that speed now. What kind of sleepers are they using? It is a welded rail, right?
@@eottoe2001 it’s not the equipment that’s the issue it’s the track conditions and Amtrak getting precedent over freights (which is supposed to happen but doesn’t).
These trains do not need sleepers and the welded rail you see here replaced welded rail installed by Conrail.
@@PereMarquette1223 I get that. The tech to get 110 or 120 is here now. As much as I would like a New York to Chicago Shinkansen, what your videos shows is what is doable and would change rail travel in the US.
@@eottoe2001 almost all of the equipment in this video is state funded as well, so it all depends on what the government Is willing to pay for in the long run.
Wow, the way the ground shakes.
Most of that was due to the camera I was using. The ground doesn’t shake all that much. This camera was particularly sensitive to any vibrations and thats why I quit using it. Bummer because the zoom was fantastic
@@PereMarquette1223 is there a way to prop it up so as to lessen vibrations? To construct something that has sway maybe, or even put it in a tree somehow. I don't know, just spitballing.
@@dubaiedge I tried everything and anything with this camera… it simply was just too sensitive by default. I switched to a different one, same manufacturer and almost identical and it fixed the issue. Not sure why this happened to this one.
@@dubaiedge camcorders and such has anti-vibration equipment installed into them that stabilizes the footage to avoid this. For whatever reason no matter what I did and how much I messed with the settings or tried to weigh the camera done it didn’t help. I almost always film with a tripod.
I use a different camera now that basically is the same thing and I have no issues besides that the batteries don’t last as long but I’m working on that.
Must be Lawton, OK
Negative, Michigan. Pretty sure that’s in the description but I could be wrong. I know it mentions Michigan in the description
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Well....as a daily user of a +200mph train this feels slow for me 😅
I can definitely understand that. I’m assuming you are in Europe? Our network has a LOT of catching up to do 😅
@@PereMarquette1223 yes, I'm from Spain.
We have a different transportation system, we are also a smaller country, but I hope that high speed rail will come to the USA sooner rather than later. I still remember that during the last Obama administration a technical delegation was in Spain on official visit taking details of how high speed had been carried out here, with the idea of doing something similar in the States, I do not know if there has been any progress since then.
The lights make it look like the train is doing a little dance
Conductor - "I live my life 110mph at a time"
Forget EV’s I need to get me a train!
Where is this at???
Location is in the title, and description
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at first I was like "naaaaah that's way to slow for 150+ kph" but then the camera zoom decreased and and I was like "oh shit, that was zoomed in... that thing HAULS AT MACH JESUS"
I am gonna use that from now on… “Mach Jesus” 😂😂😂 that’s good stuff
We're doing 130mph on a privately owned Brightline train in Florida!! no fed red tape.
No red tape here either, the gov owns this track
That's my point.. the train is Private, NOT owned by the Fed, the track is fed owned.. the service is incredible.. I went on Amtrak. and Brightline makes Amtrak look like it's form 1985. very high end, the girls that work there are super polite, pretty, everyone has a smile and is ready to help, very clean on and on time.. it is worth every penny.. and unlike Amtrak that has NOT made a profit in almost 50 years.. Bright line is making money. @@PereMarquette1223
No you're not... Brightline doesn't run their trains that fast yet... They've tested them that fast. Also Florida could've had government funded highspeed rail but their corrupt government messed that up because Rick Scott and Friends had money invested into All Aboard Florida.
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Running in Push pull that's pretty cool
Normal operation for this train, as there is no where to turn the train in Port Huron.
Well done
Thank you!
Do they regularly hit this speed?
Yes. This is only about 10 minutes by car north of where the other video was taken. This is a 110mph high speed rail corridor.
Omg really
Yes
Is this Indiana, Illinois or Michigan
Read the description
I wish they had kept the tight shot until the train ran through the dip evident in the foreground. that should not be in a track qualified for 100 mph, in my estimation.
You mean me? That dip is yards long… it’s not a sudden drop. This is among one of if not the best railroads in the country. Millions of dollars have gone into making it what it is today. The trains run at these speeds daily, and they never have any issues because of it. The ride is smooth, and the track is maintained to a standard that is higher then the majority of the nation’s rail network. You have to get federal permission to run at these speeds.
The zoom just emphasizes the minor dips, they are no where near as bad as they appear and nobody is in any danger
Getting as good as the Florida Brightline.
These guys were good before Brightline. If anything they were the model
Trains easily doing 100+, surprised its only 110 mph honestly.
Technically on this day it was doing 111mph. It’s one of the fastest lines in the US, which isn’t saying much when compared to the world
110 with grade crossings, yeesh
Many have been eliminated with bridges or just outright removed, only the necessary ones were left in. All are gated, even in places where the crossings are private.
Very very slow compared to European and Japanese trains.
Yeah. They definitely have the speed game figured out. The destruction from war inadvertently helped modernize their infrastructure to make it more efficient and more effective.
Those front light's look like the twitter (X) logo hahahaha
Does Amtrak dispatch the Michigan line? Is it Amtrak and NORAC rules or Amtrak and GCOR operating rules?
I have no idea what the rules have to do with anything but considering they own it I would assume so. NS might handle some spots but it depends, since they are contracted to handle the freight traffic where it exists.
Smokin!!!!
I work for the railroad, all the runs I have been on track is 55 freight and 70 passenger......delete me!
You aren’t disputing the speed of the train. This line is specifically a high speed rail corridor, so it has special permissions and certifications to run at these speeds. It will make 70 seem like you are barely moving at all.
Engineer is not sparing the horses on that engine.
If it’s 110 or under then it’s fair game
Even if I was allowed, I don't think I'd run her up to 110mph...Talk about hauling a$$...holy moly👀🤯😎
Then you loose your job… this line is maintained with strict regulations outlined by the Federal Railroad Administration
@PereMarquette1223 I suppose you're correct, I wouldn't want to loose my job👍😑
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next time see on max F.L., let the train fill the frame, but instead of zooming back (which tends to merely point out what a swell piece of glass you own)do let the train FILL the frame, and then slowly pull out with it, keeping max interest in the colossus evolving in front of our eyes..when you zip back full wide i think it kills the shot, actually turns it into two shots, which perhaps was your intent if you capturing stuff for a longer sequence: dead automobile car off the tracks, or a little kid chasing a ball to the tracks, or some other brio silent movie schitck,..- in such a scase, makes sense so snag two different shots from the same set up -- if not, it is kind o' silly
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163 mile sign
That’s the milepost
@@PereMarquette1223163?
Is this the fastest train America has.How embarrassing!!
It’s not the fastest train, trains on the Northeast Corridor in the New England can hit 130-150 depending on what train it is.
Those tracks look terrible
It’s the camera zoom. The tracks are amongst the best in the US, hence why they are able to do 110 through here.
And here I was in Transport Fever 2 thinking my lines are too steep or crooked when in reality it is fucking worse :)))))