Grant in 2 years: "Real Scale Marines Only - Deathless - Nightmare - No Build - Pacifist - Blindfolded - One Handed - No Hotkeys - Speedrun World Record - part 463" We're here for it 😁
So the 100% true lore here is that the Mengsk holograms get power from 3 Marines that endlessly run on giant hamster wheels, that's why when you break the holograms they run out and join you.
Imagine walking out of an outhouse and just seeing the leader of the rebel group that is basically public enemy of the dominion and proceeding to just gun him down
the back to back juxtaposition of lines like a shell-shocked, traumatized woman telling Raynor "Don't go up that road..." and the next mission "BAD GUYS THATAWAY" is certainly an interesting one
I'm always in for marines only... but this is going to get funny against any capital ship. How much damage will a max upgrade marine do to even a Void Ray on this mod lol.
If you somehow manage to get there, Maw of the Void will probably be impossible. Unless they've been nerfed since last time you were there, Rip Field Generators do 30 DPS... your Marines currently have 35 hp. Their life expectancy is 2 seconds, and Combat Shields won't make any difference.
@@andrewgreeb916 Lets do some maths (if anyone sees any mistakes, or changes since the last time Grant played let me know). The vault has 10000 hp and shields, as well as zero armour, so 20000 damage needs to be done. The rip field does 30 damage every second, Marines have 35 hp (+10 from combat shields and -10 from stim) so they can survive roughly 2 seconds (dunno how drop pods interact with this). With +3 they should do 8 damage per shot, while stimming they fire a shot about every 0.41 seconds, meaning they will be able to fire 4 times before dying, for at total of 32 damage per marine. Assuming no marines are killed while attacking, Grant will need 625 marines to kill the vault. Edit: forgot to mention that because marines have a supply cost of 0.5, only 400 marines can be on the field at once, reducing the total damage down to 12800. If grant can't send in reinforcements before the shield regens, the he will have to send in 4 waves total, that's 1600 marines.
@@solaariel2692 Don't they take damage when you stim them, so they get killed with the first tick of the rip field? I feel like that would actually make them do less damage compared to not stimming them.
If it's already going bad on the obligatory Marine-only mission, I can't imagine how things like Supernova will go. Sounds awful. Excited to see more of it.
@@lonesometomb773 As someone who played real scale wings of liberty, marines sucks ass in this version. No health, almost close to no damage and gets bundled together into a ball of sadness.
When Grant left that single marine alive at 6:30 and then Raynor dropped to 4HP at 7:15 I already knew what would happen. :D Edit: the line "Bad guys are that way" prepares us for another one that comes later in the campaign: "Get him and all his terrorist friends". ;-)
Grant: "The only thing we need here is blood, sweat, and the firepower of MY TERRAN MARINE CORPS!" I swear just do the Captain Buck edition challenge in Real Scale, Grant. You might need the Firebats and Goliaths lol.
I'd recommend taking a look at the hyperion crew mod as well, it has gotten some interesting updates, one of which massively changes mission 3, the one where you unlock bunker
Finally! An RTS where the flame thrower units are good! :D Fire-only might be a -good- fun idea for a challenge run, allowing for SCV/Missile Turret support for sustain/anti-air.
I love having the VODs back! I really loved watching them, I was really excited when there was an extra channel mentioned for them this challenge looks nuts and I love it
While I’m sad you’re not going to try a deathless Age of Mythology run, this is just as good. This ought to be a wild ride. Thanks for putting in the work to bring us this entertainment.
You know, if you don't rescue the allies but get in range of the medics, u can get some nice healings before u have to murder the medics, idk how viable that is though, or if it's possible, worth a try tho.
Theres something really encouraging about hearing Grant mock the idea of Real Scale deathless and then doing it. Had to get it done on NORMAL- after 3 days of attempts, dont think Outlaws is possible due to the Hellions on Hard. But its DEFINATELY possible on NORMAL
Man, im in the middle of the work when i read the tittle and it was like "no way, there no fcking way that s possible", and now im here , for you to prove me wrong
So, I did some quick math and you may have already found this out and whether I'm right or not, but here's what I tallied together for marines' damage within a minute with upgrades whether you took Ultra Capacitors or not. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, not a total surprise. Note, this is WITHOUT stimpack, so keep that in mind. I don't use it really, so I didn't think of it. Marine damage with upgrade and attack values Base weapon: 5 damage every .86 seconds Damage without Ultra capacitors (total attacks 69) 0/0 is upward of 345 every minute 1/1 is upward of 414 every minute 2/2 is upward of 483 every minute 3/3 is upward of 552 every minute Damage with Ultra Capacitors (-5% of speed cooldown for every upgrade) 0/0 69 attacks deals upward of 350 every minute 1/1 (.817) 73 attacks deals upward of 438 every minute 2/2 (.744) 80 attacks deals upward of 539 every minute 3/3 (.731) 82 attacks deals upward of 656 every minute
As enjoyable as it would be to see you endlessly throw men into a literal meat grinder, maybe we could expand the challenge to just be "barracks only?" xD
After you do 'The Evacuation' you should allow yourself ONE medic, and have your headcanon be that that medic is Hanson. If she dies, you do haven's fall. If she lives, you do safe haven, and no, you can't just have her die immediately. After Havens fall/safe haven, you cant use a medic anymore. I think that might add an extra, interesting factor to the game and help you out, be it how small. Having them sit in the base and heal your troops instead of having to buy more troops or send in hurt marines might have a noticeable effect.
The scale we need to talk about - the cost of a marine vs the cost of a command center. I was in the military we didn't make an eighth of a building money
Yeah but included in the price of the Marine is their gear as well, of the 30 minerals for a marine it's probably 29 minerals worth for the gear and 1 for the poor soul they throw in there
YES. Also Day 2 of asking Grant to check out Beyond All Reason. Been playing it a bit and it seems a bit like Supreme Commander, but less overwhelming than said game, due to less grand scale and more unit diversity.
Grant: "why are hellions so dangerous?" Me: "I don't know, Grant. Why would you have trouble with a mass amount of anti-light anti-bio units with area of effect? Especially since you're locked to using the light bio basic unit. Can't even heal them." Don't know why hellions are such a problem for this pro SC2 player.
So, uh, is the battlecruiser mission with the rip field generators even possible with marines only? I'm not familiar if the adjusted stats for size make it instant wipe marines. Also to be fair you're effectively using slightly better civilians from the first level against tanks and hellions. I'm very interested in seeing the Real Scale Terran mod be updated to have hard points and the other stuff from LOTV, but if it's too much work taking away from other cool stuff it's not a problem.
Grant in 2 years:
"Real Scale Marines Only - Deathless - Nightmare - No Build - Pacifist - Blindfolded - One Handed - No Hotkeys - Speedrun World Record - part 463"
We're here for it 😁
you forgot no build - pacifist :D
@@tackywheat1295 Thank you! Added
@@Mistersheeaun 1 handed
No hotkeys!
You forgot the coop race swap bit
So the 100% true lore here is that the Mengsk holograms get power from 3 Marines that endlessly run on giant hamster wheels, that's why when you break the holograms they run out and join you.
"Get the civilians in front."
-Jim Raynor, freedom fighter.
They need to do something
They bought their own freedom... With their blood...
Two years from now:
“Hi, I’m Giant Grant Games and today we’re going to throw ping pong balls at a Sherman tank until it explodes.”
Imagine walking out of an outhouse and just seeing the leader of the rebel group that is basically public enemy of the dominion and proceeding to just gun him down
He Gavrilo Principed the hell out of Raynor!
the back to back juxtaposition of lines like a shell-shocked, traumatized woman telling Raynor "Don't go up that road..." and the next mission "BAD GUYS THATAWAY" is certainly an interesting one
I'm always in for marines only... but this is going to get funny against any capital ship. How much damage will a max upgrade marine do to even a Void Ray on this mod lol.
WoL Voids have the line attack as well, each beams going to kill like 50 marines.
@@Apollad2 I know, its going to be great :D :D :D
I think capital ships have a lot of armor so it's gonna be like 0.5hp per marine shot most likely.
This run will probably be entirely impossible as soon as void rays/carriers/fucking anything shows up. Remember thors have splash in this
I smell many turrets and bunkers in the future.
Grant: "Real Scale it's good to be back."
Me: "That's a giant dog."
Comically large dog(e)
well judging by the species it's less a Doge and more a Caesar(Doge 2) but anyway
If you somehow manage to get there, Maw of the Void will probably be impossible. Unless they've been nerfed since last time you were there, Rip Field Generators do 30 DPS... your Marines currently have 35 hp. Their life expectancy is 2 seconds, and Combat Shields won't make any difference.
@@andrewgreeb916 Lets do some maths (if anyone sees any mistakes, or changes since the last time Grant played let me know).
The vault has 10000 hp and shields, as well as zero armour, so 20000 damage needs to be done. The rip field does 30 damage every second, Marines have 35 hp (+10 from combat shields and -10 from stim) so they can survive roughly 2 seconds (dunno how drop pods interact with this). With +3 they should do 8 damage per shot, while stimming they fire a shot about every 0.41 seconds, meaning they will be able to fire 4 times before dying, for at total of 32 damage per marine. Assuming no marines are killed while attacking, Grant will need 625 marines to kill the vault.
Edit: forgot to mention that because marines have a supply cost of 0.5, only 400 marines can be on the field at once, reducing the total damage down to 12800. If grant can't send in reinforcements before the shield regens, the he will have to send in 4 waves total, that's 1600 marines.
so there is a chance
@@solaariel2692 Don't they take damage when you stim them, so they get killed with the first tick of the rip field? I feel like that would actually make them do less damage compared to not stimming them.
@@Schilani The Stim is canceled by the combat shield.
@@Schilani Marines have 35 hp, combat shield increases this to 45, stimming reduces this back to 35, so marines can take 2 hits from the rip field.
"Jim Raynor is a Marine"
_immediately drops jim to red healthbar in first engagement and ends up having to stow him away._
"Apologies that this is a stream vod" - my god his archives channel actually being archive for once lol
Haven't started but my first thought - Grant, you are a brave, brave man, and I absolutely do not envy you lol.
If it's already going bad on the obligatory Marine-only mission, I can't imagine how things like Supernova will go. Sounds awful. Excited to see more of it.
@@lonesometomb773 As someone who played real scale wings of liberty, marines sucks ass in this version. No health, almost close to no damage and gets bundled together into a ball of sadness.
You know what’s more interesting ?
Real scale zergling only with the even playing field mutator
Now they can jump up and chew up star ship
@@anvietanh6723 problem: zerglings jump up and chew ships
Solution: LEMON JUICE
That may be slightly more possible
When Grant left that single marine alive at 6:30 and then Raynor dropped to 4HP at 7:15 I already knew what would happen. :D
Edit: the line "Bad guys are that way" prepares us for another one that comes later in the campaign: "Get him and all his terrorist friends". ;-)
Oh bois can't wait to see max out Marines army got melt by like, one or two real scale Colossi. The Dig is gonna be extra EXTRA spicy !
I feel like thats the definitive end, collosi will kill ~40 marines a shot i fear
"Real scale bunkers only" more like. Unless they have extended thermal lance.
@@TheArbieo oh yes they do, colossi outrange all bunkers
maybe Ghosts with Ocular Implants have it on equal
I fully support including Medics in the mix as Marines.
Not Medics, "Healy Marines".
Grant: "The only thing we need here is blood, sweat, and the firepower of MY TERRAN MARINE CORPS!"
I swear just do the Captain Buck edition challenge in Real Scale, Grant. You might need the Firebats and Goliaths lol.
SCG could had been glorious~
You love pain, don't you? This is going to be glorious, thank you Grant.
Blood for the blood god skulls fir the skull throne
Mostly ours
Khorne cares not from whence the blood flows, only that it flows.
I'd recommend taking a look at the hyperion crew mod as well, it has gotten some interesting updates, one of which massively changes mission 3, the one where you unlock bunker
Finally! An RTS where the flame thrower units are good! :D
Fire-only might be a -good- fun idea for a challenge run, allowing for SCV/Missile Turret support for sustain/anti-air.
I think The Dig is going to be the true final mission of this.
Nah it’s gonna b trains. It’s always trains
@@dadpounder4209 Trains doesn't have map-covering Carriers and splash void rays
@@garretthopkins7035 but it has seeker missiles. And besides, it’s always trains. Even when you think it won’t be trains it’s always trains.
I love having the VODs back! I really loved watching them, I was really excited when there was an extra channel mentioned for them
this challenge looks nuts and I love it
"I see your boss runnin' around down there; they look like ants" Tychus
Love how "oh no, race cars" goes from a cheeky jab to an actual problem to overcome.
YESSSSS I'VE ALEAYS WANTED GRANT TO DO CHALLENGE RUNS WITH REALSCALE
I legit saw this right after I commented basically the same thing xd
Wait hey you’re the reapers only guy. Are you happy that you got what you wanted so badly? It was miserable and everyone hated it
@@dadpounder4209 bro one comment didn't bother noone
Saw the twitch notifs but dont have time to catch streams so Im so pumped to see this on youtube
While I’m sad you’re not going to try a deathless Age of Mythology run, this is just as good. This ought to be a wild ride. Thanks for putting in the work to bring us this entertainment.
I'm all for more Real Scale content. This run will be fun if it finishes.
I hope sometime there is also a Real Scale Nightmare, that would be amazing!
>"You guys sure are welcome sight!"
>kills their medics
Protoss missions are kosher because they're Jim's dreams, and Jim is a marine.
You poor fool. I will love every part of your torment. I wish you luck
I cannot believe ive somehow delusioned myself into thinking i saw "real scale *deathless* marine only" on the title.
Hanks all we need here is blood, sweat and the fire power of MY terran marine corps!
You know, if you don't rescue the allies but get in range of the medics, u can get some nice healings before u have to murder the medics, idk how viable that is though, or if it's possible, worth a try tho.
Ah realscale WoL, good to come back to this series. I loved it the first time.
"What's my prize? What do I win?!"
A butcher's bill!
The live definition of “Marines: Pretty Much OP against everything”
Maybe the civilians do 5 damage as spell damage instead of weapon damage.
That's the only explanation I can think of.
Grant: I've got lag...
Ahh yea Grant is a real sc2 player :P if something goes bad. It's lag :P
That first mission gave me an idea. We slash Jim's funding. No vehicles, no power armor, no guns, a firebomb civvies only run.
Dominion Marine: OCCUPIED!!
James Raynor:
Thanks for this episode of the crew is expendable! Because I feel that we will go through a lot of marines in this challange run. x)
32:56
"Is this my time? Do I go?"
"Go, go, go!"
"Okay"
LETS GOOO I love these fun challenge runs.
Didn't Grant have to use the SCVs to get past the tank on his original playthrough of this...?
Grant, this challenge sounds like masochism. I love the idea.
Can a maxed out marine army even hurt a carrier? Stay tuned to find out!
Sorry for your loss 😢 when facing colosses
3:49: "We don't talk about those things here"
Marine: "Why not?"
Theres something really encouraging about hearing Grant mock the idea of Real Scale deathless and then doing it. Had to get it done on NORMAL- after 3 days of attempts, dont think Outlaws is possible due to the Hellions on Hard. But its DEFINATELY possible on NORMAL
"Put the civilians in the front" says Definitely Not Giant Warcrimes Grant.
grant 3:59 "we dont talk about those things here"
marine: "why not"
Man, im in the middle of the work when i read the tittle and it was like "no way, there no fcking way that s possible", and now im here , for you to prove me wrong
I was just re-watching RSWOL and was thinking about how terrible this run would be! Great to see you trying it, I look forward to the pain
No need to apologize if it is not specifically for the archives, I would not want to miss this!
I dont know Jim has some pretty strange friends. Tosh, artanis, zeratul, stetman
Don't forget Tychus himself
Well belshir will be fun, some 3 or 4 void rays will eat through entire max armies. Im excited!
Legacy of the memes should now be possible with zealots only
that fuckin thumbnail bro, you've outdone yourself. we have here a true artist.
Ah yes. Pain.
So, I did some quick math and you may have already found this out and whether I'm right or not, but here's what I tallied together for marines' damage within a minute with upgrades whether you took Ultra Capacitors or not. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, not a total surprise. Note, this is WITHOUT stimpack, so keep that in mind. I don't use it really, so I didn't think of it.
Marine damage with upgrade and attack values
Base weapon: 5 damage every .86 seconds
Damage without Ultra capacitors (total attacks 69)
0/0 is upward of 345 every minute
1/1 is upward of 414 every minute
2/2 is upward of 483 every minute
3/3 is upward of 552 every minute
Damage with Ultra Capacitors (-5% of speed cooldown for every upgrade)
0/0 69 attacks deals upward of 350 every minute
1/1 (.817) 73 attacks deals upward of 438 every minute
2/2 (.744) 80 attacks deals upward of 539 every minute
3/3 (.731) 82 attacks deals upward of 656 every minute
YES! The madlad is actually doing it.
As enjoyable as it would be to see you endlessly throw men into a literal meat grinder, maybe we could expand the challenge to just be "barracks only?" xD
Ultralisks, colossus, siege tanks, high Templar…Grant, I had no idea you despised yourself so much.
We always knew itd come to this...man with gun demolishing ships the size of planets
While the enemies of the emperor still draw breath there can be no peace.
I saw this I insteadly needed to see this
All the little bois are comin' out for this run.
Grant apologising for uploading a stream vod on the channel that he created to put stream vods is funny.
After you do 'The Evacuation' you should allow yourself ONE medic, and have your headcanon be that that medic is Hanson.
If she dies, you do haven's fall. If she lives, you do safe haven, and no, you can't just have her die immediately. After Havens fall/safe haven, you cant use a medic anymore.
I think that might add an extra, interesting factor to the game and help you out, be it how small. Having them sit in the base and heal your troops instead of having to buy more troops or send in hurt marines might have a noticeable effect.
The first try at the end was hilarious.
I'm still waiting for LOTV & HOTS Terran Edition Marines Only 👀
Nice job cleaning out that bunker Jimmy
please continue this series!!!
The scale we need to talk about - the cost of a marine vs the cost of a command center. I was in the military we didn't make an eighth of a building money
Yeah but included in the price of the Marine is their gear as well, of the 30 minerals for a marine it's probably 29 minerals worth for the gear and 1 for the poor soul they throw in there
Heart of the swarm real scale zerglings only
"It's going to be a fun run" like Isaac Clarke getting a needle to the eye type of fun yeah?
Rip to all marines died in this video. Your sacrifices will be remembered ( probably)
That was a hellish number of Hellions
Yay the content i want on this channel and unexpected fun challenge run to, double win
HOLY SHIT GRANT. Marines real scale only? DUDE
It's like a reenactment of Korean War human wave attacks.
I thought this was a new mod where only the Marines were Real Scale and I was very confused
Please remember in the next mission that "Bunker isn't named Marine so I can't use it".
I'm very excited to see if he can *somehow* figure this out
Really excited for this series
I can't believe Raynor literally just got Pulp Fictioned.
Double challenge runs are such a fun idea!
Real Scale Marines only. The casualties are going to be enormous for almost every macro mission.
Oh no. Multiverse of GGG has begun
I've been binge watching College Humor lately and I was wondering, is every person named Grant a giant?
Grant,
We now need randomizer real scale.
YES.
Also Day 2 of asking Grant to check out Beyond All Reason. Been playing it a bit and it seems a bit like Supreme Commander, but less overwhelming than said game, due to less grand scale and more unit diversity.
Grant: "why are hellions so dangerous?"
Me: "I don't know, Grant. Why would you have trouble with a mass amount of anti-light anti-bio units with area of effect? Especially since you're locked to using the light bio basic unit. Can't even heal them."
Don't know why hellions are such a problem for this pro SC2 player.
You have my upmost condolences for your sanity
Real scale deathless zerglings only HOTS!
I wonder how he ever is going to complete ''ALL IN'' like this :D
So, uh, is the battlecruiser mission with the rip field generators even possible with marines only? I'm not familiar if the adjusted stats for size make it instant wipe marines.
Also to be fair you're effectively using slightly better civilians from the first level against tanks and hellions.
I'm very interested in seeing the Real Scale Terran mod be updated to have hard points and the other stuff from LOTV, but if it's too much work taking away from other cool stuff it's not a problem.
Time to make all of terrans enemies EAT LEAD