In that scenario, the 4-way valve is not necessary. Just hook the LDH suction line to the large port on the hydrant, then pump through the line that was reverse laid back to the first engine. Saves a step and a piece of equipment.
@@joshuahollar9880 You're a clueless VOLLY! I forgot more than you know. here's a quote from probably the last time you're little dept went to a fire, 2020...."Firefighters performed an aggressive fire attack and were able to contain the fire to the single bedroom." AMATEURS
We knee on the supply hose when doing a reverse lay or any lay. If that second connection catches, it's gonna pull right out of the firefighters hands and rip/mess up that engines suction/intake. Otherwise like the idea of testing/flushing hydrant to check for debris if there's time. Definitely if you roll up and a caps off/missing.
Flushing only 2.5 inch would meet the standards of Flushing a hydrant?? Back in my day I was taught to flush the 5inch side of hydrant to ensure ALL debris was flushed. Which would include soda cans or other large debris. Please and thank you.
That 2.5 inch gated valve looks like a good way to cannon shot a hypodermic needle into some unsuspecting person walking past. Definitely flush from the 5 inch, without all the pressure before any hookup of things
Why would the supply (second due?) if that’s what you mean, engine stop and give the tank to the first due. The attack engine already has water. The point of the second due engine in this scenario, obviously, is to get water to the first due engine. It wasn’t mentioned in the video, or maybe I missed it, but this looked like a relay pump. This is clearly a training video, so the fact that the 2 engines were right next to each other in this video makes it confusing to some. These guys probably only had a small parking lot to work with in their town. If that second due engine has to lay a lot of length, then they would relay. Did you see the HAV? If your department’s (or you) second due engines strategy is stopping to give tank water to another engine, and then find water.. that would HENIOUSLY reduce “the time to get water to the attack engine”
@@Bukhumdum if i understand your reply, i think you misunderstood me. after the supply engine stops at the hydrant, send their tank water before hooking up to the hydrant. in this drill, the supply engine took 3 minutes to get water to the attack engine.
@@Bukhumdum This must be suburbs of Boston and not the city. No, busy city does half the nonsense you guys did. It's clear to busy departments...you don't do much work.
That’s some crazy set up you guys do onto 1 hydrant…
Hope you guys get a lot of water out of it
Painful to watch. Pretty sure these guys have never been to a fire. So many unnecessary steps. If you know you know.
Love that hydrant assist valve it a god send to our department
Wouldn't it be more efficient to check hydrant function before making the connections?
In that scenario, the 4-way valve is not necessary. Just hook the LDH suction line to the large port on the hydrant, then pump through the line that was reverse laid back to the first engine. Saves a step and a piece of equipment.
Good job.
What would be the purpose of using a HAV on a hydrant if it's a reverse lay?
Good video
its actually everything you DONT want to do at a fire. Seriously. You're not a firefighter
@@billyburn2759 you are very wrong
@@joshuahollar9880 You're a clueless VOLLY! I forgot more than you know.
here's a quote from probably the last time you're little dept went to a fire, 2020...."Firefighters performed an aggressive fire attack and were able to contain the fire to the single bedroom." AMATEURS
Why even bother with the second engine. Just attach supply to the attack truck?
thats what im saying u only need the relay pumper if its over a great distance
We knee on the supply hose when doing a reverse lay or any lay. If that second connection catches, it's gonna pull right out of the firefighters hands and rip/mess up that engines suction/intake. Otherwise like the idea of testing/flushing hydrant to check for debris if there's time. Definitely if you roll up and a caps off/missing.
if there's time? Takes 10 seconds to properly flush. Ever been to a fire?
Flushing only 2.5 inch would meet the standards of Flushing a hydrant?? Back in my day I was taught to flush the 5inch side of hydrant to ensure ALL debris was flushed. Which would include soda cans or other large debris. Please and thank you.
That 2.5 inch gated valve looks like a good way to cannon shot a hypodermic needle into some unsuspecting person walking past. Definitely flush from the 5 inch, without all the pressure before any hookup of things
Nice video!!!
Awesome!
Did you say "soft suction?"
your supply engine could have given their tank water, before hooking up to the hydrant. this would reduce the time to get water to the attack engine
Why would the supply (second due?) if that’s what you mean, engine stop and give the tank to the first due. The attack engine already has water. The point of the second due engine in this scenario, obviously, is to get water to the first due engine. It wasn’t mentioned in the video, or maybe I missed it, but this looked like a relay pump. This is clearly a training video, so the fact that the 2 engines were right next to each other in this video makes it confusing to some. These guys probably only had a small parking lot to work with in their town. If that second due engine has to lay a lot of length, then they would relay. Did you see the HAV?
If your department’s (or you) second due engines strategy is stopping to give tank water to another engine, and then find water.. that would HENIOUSLY reduce “the time to get water to the attack engine”
@@Bukhumdum if i understand your reply, i think you misunderstood me. after the supply engine stops at the hydrant, send their tank water before hooking up to the hydrant. in this drill, the supply engine took 3 minutes to get water to the attack engine.
@@akamaiokole1962 yeah Nate has no clue
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Please use proper radio technique. Talking into your shoulder is not a good way to ensure "Say it Loud, Say it Clear"
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Its not called a front suction, its called a front intake. Gonna make a video, know what you are talking about.
Where’s that video at?
@@Bukhumdum This must be suburbs of Boston and not the city. No, busy city does half the nonsense you guys did. It's clear to busy departments...you don't do much work.
@@billyburn2759 Boston? The license plates say New Jersey but I don't think he was asking for a location...