TEAM TALK: BRP CONFIDENTIAL INFORMANTS CALLED US!!! (ROTAX OUTBOARD)
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- TEAM TALK: BRP CONFIDENTIAL INFORMANTS CALLED US!!! (ROTAX OUTBOARD)
Over the last 2 weeks has been a real eye opener for us at Team Marine. Since day 1 we have set out to deliver the truth about the marine industry to our audience and today's video is no different. The calls, emails and text messages from individuals who were directly involved with this Project Ghost have come forth while choosing to remain anonymous to let Andy know the truth about this product. Multiple dealers have relayed information too. Will this be the biggest flop in marine industry history? Time will tell!
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#evinrude #rotaxoutboards #brp
They engineered a lot of interesting solutions to problems that shouldn’t exist.
Exactly!!!
Oh fuk ya!! Added a bunch of components that aren't needed if the engine was above the water line!!
Keep it simple! Lots of cool solutions. At what point did they look at each other and say WTF are we doing? It seems like the lead engineer may have a big ego. He/She and the company must have a toxic culture that does not accept critical feedback.
Attention BRP! Nobody wants this! Go back to the drawing board and try harder. One more thing...fire that idiot engineer that has held Evinrude back for the last 20 years
He sure hasn't done them any favors the last 20 years! Look at all of his other "creations"
You mean the CEO’s nephew?
20 years? I think it stretches a lil farther than that....
Cuppo examples
Evinrude sea drive
OMC stringer outdrives absolute over-engineered JUNK, that Techs didn't even wanna touch.
Evinrude 9.5 turtle, when they run good they are OK, but pita to work on
And more......
This will be the biggest flop ever! BRP CEO is just as much at fault as the ding-bat lead engineer
We certainly hope that both of them are held accountable in their own ways
I heard the lead engineer was the CEO's nephew
@@usmcdrifter8759 ha hope that's true
DUH!
Yes. If this "disease" spreads to the Ski-Doo line up, i'll be on a Polaris or Yamaha sled in a heartbeat.
You got me saying speed money to no brakes where are the shirts?? Lol
Being printed as we type! Coming very soon!
Dont hold back Andy! Give 'er buddy! You're a breath of fresh air, straight shooter, no sugar coating! If its junk its junk
Nailed it
it's called a ghost, not because of quietness, but because it will disappear just that fast
Hahahaha yesss!!!
I HOPE THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Andy on a rant always makes my day. I can't remember laughing this hard in a long time, Thanks, Andy!
Brutal honesty, absolutely love it, thanks Andy and Team Marine
All other outboard manufacturers: reverse engineering- take something that works apart and see if we can make it better
BRP: reverse engineering-take something that works and see if we can make it not work
The only elevation problems were how high the CEO and engineers were when making this project a plan!!!
I'm not super knowledgeable about the whole evinrude/brp dynamic, but at the very least I feel like they had some good ideas even if some of them weren't very reliable. I think they were ahead of the game on design appearance and I thought the integrated steering was a great move forward.
This was just an attempt to take yesterday's mashed potatoes and make it look different. I will be surprised if it is around in 3 ... no 2 years !
@@jackpatteeuw9244 in 2 years were going to be at least 1 year into a financial collapse. Really bad timing.
All other outboard manufacturers... "If it ain't broke don't fix it." BRP Engineers "If it ain't broke then you haven't tweaked it enough. Send it to us and we will remedy that."
This has to be the worst idea I’ve ever heard. What kind of CEO blows off experienced engineers when they say it’s not going to work and then hires on young inexperienced kids to head a project of that magnitude??? They need to clean house starting at the top! Great video as always Andy👍🏼
Worse than FICHT
That is Quebec. Same province that only hires French speaking coaches for their NHL hockey team, not the best coach possible.
The reason they call it the "bucket" is because that's what you're going to kick once the thing springs a leak and dies. . . .
HAHAHAHA!!!!!
I swear BRP never heard of not trying to fix something that isn’t broken
Please share this video with anyone and everyone who's involved in the boating world. We all work too damn hard for our money to go out and buy one of these.
Calm down Andy, this is personal for him. They're not that bad. Let them sort things out and recover. It's gonna get MUCH better.
My question is if dealers don't want to deal with BRP does that mean getting parts for our G2 or any other g1 evinrudes going to be harder?
Team marine and Andy is awesome !! Keep up the great content!!
Team Marine TV checking in!
Hey buddy!
Me as a boat guy but not an outboard guy this was quite possibly the funniest shit I've seen in 10 years
Submarine engineer builds a boat motor 🤣
Hahaha!!!!
More like submarine sanitation engineer eats LSD, and builds something birds don't even think is worth shitting on
You guys are awesome!
I surely hope Evinrude and gang are watching. this is epic takedown of corporate stupidity. You need to run for president Andy you'd be great 👍
Water intrusion detection system: pre-recorded announcement sounds off when water is detected inside your engine. “Warning, Warning - your engine if fucked”!
I live in the UK and saw your vids a few weeks ago such an hilarious way to put over info keep it up, as far as outboards go if it ain't broke don't fix it.
I'm halfway through this and I cannot believe that BRP is actually going to produce this. "That's what we need, some claps."
We the people want answers! Why did the CEO say that?
It's truly disappointing! We hope this video allows Jose to respond and clear the air.
Do the shareholders know how much bigger their dividends would be if they had gone with a non-idiotic design? And do they have the power to force a change?
The worst part is that BRP will do the same thing they did with Johnson and Harley did with Buell. They will shelve the names and not allow anyone to purchase them and restart the brands!
BRP only wanted the ETEC technology. It was maybe 5 years after they got it, it showed up on just about every Ski Doo made since 08/09. I have a G2 150 on my Alumacraft and love it. Previous outboard was an 83 Evinrude 50 which still runs. The Evinrude I knew and loved is dead, never to return...
A G2 150 is a in-line 3 correct? Did it have a ton of nanny systems if you got water in your gear case. My issue with a E tech remember your old OMC The dang lines on the new ones you couldn’t see the engine
The customers have spoken. 2 stroke is dead, except for 3rd world nations where it is owned by Tohatsu and Yamaha.
Truth is more overall torque is made with 2 strokes
I don’t know what they’re smoking in college up there in Canada but us 20 something down here in Texas be building 60 hp out of 35 Evinrude blocks, BRP needs to come holler at us
We need more people like you to tell it like it is! Call a spade a spade! I love it. Never laughed so hard Andy.
It literally makes me sick what the corporate sucks have done to Johnson and Evinrude. If someone ever decides to do it right, call me, I will help.
Awesome video!! Great job Andy! Love this video!! 👍
I've been following this since yall started talking about this and OMG! 🤣 🤣 🤣 what a joke. The CEO should be ashamed.
Don’t forget- They say it only needs to be serviced every 500 hours or 5 years however; they only warranty it for 3 years! What does that tell you. Another e-tech situation brewing! Run!!!😢
When is the Ceo going to get called on the carpet? I saw this same thing happen in the automotive industry. It used to be the newbie engineers would come in every two to three years and they would design in the faults and problems that the senior engineers had just finished correcting. An old engineer I knew at J.P.L. said he was kept around to stop that kind of wasteful stupidity . He would let the newbies run their course and then before they could damage a project He would step in an say stop, We tried that years ago, here is the report now go back and start again. So here we are with a Ceo. who has no idea what the Boaters want and it looks like there is no one to say stop!
Personally loved the sound of old optimax the new mercs are also pretty cool. Everyone loves the sound.
This is pure gold. Better than anything on the comedy channel. The sad part, it's 💯% true.
I deal with BRP on the watercraft side. My impression is that they just play the numbers game and just don’t care. They bank on uneducated consumers buying their products simply based on the cool factor. Consumers who are without any knowledge or foresight for the problems that are going to arise. I’m just a small business owner but I just don’t know how any of their decisions are sustainable in the long term. I guess time will tell. I enjoyed the video and am now a new subscriber 👍🏼
Unfortunately, Evinrude and Johnson died when OMC went under, and a French-Canadian company bought them out. I hate that because I grew up on Johnson and Evinrudes. When BRP started moving away from OMC's designs to their own, that's when they died imo. BRP products appear high-tech and ahead of the game, but they are well known for their lack of reliability and service life. Evinrude could no longer be taken seriously as an outboard because of BRP
I don’t have the patience to sift the useful information from this video.
I live on the other side of the creek in SE MN, love your videos and your humor. Keep up the good work kemosabe!
Glad i found this channel subscribed!
Welcome aboard!
Sell the Evinrude name to engineers who wear real pants! The name of the first manufactured outboard and the the name of the world record outboard speed record is dead. Come on, who in thier right mind would think consumers would want to buy a product from a company that killed that name and tried to reintroduce this garbage. Time to trade the Ski Doo for a Polaris
Yes BRP big horse power 4 strokes are wanted! It baffles me that these engineers don't get in contact with the marine mechanics that work on boats everyday and get thier advice and ask them what can we do to make a outboard more reliable!! Just take the best of everything and put it in one outboard!
What a disappointment of a company! Seriously considering selling my Can-Am
We are shocked that they were given the honest opinions and wen't against the peoples will and deceived them. This is 0% Rotax and 100% Evinrude
This thing makes me want to dry heave!! Imagine the poor employees at the upcoming boat shows are going have to wear bags on there heads when working the booth. And take the walk of shame everyday walking to the brp booth. Think of the heckling they are going to get! You will have to come to Mpls boat show next year and set up a booth across from brp and do this live
It’s not uncommon now for these young engineers or even older engineers to be designing things they care nothing about. They just view it as a job. No interest about what they are doing required.
I feel bad for any newbie who mistakenly purchases that pos.
LMAO. The part with trimming it up in the back deck 🤣😂🤣😂
Let the world know in the comments below what you think about this Project Ghost!!! BRP is watching so be honest with them!
🤷 well at least they called you, even tho they know you're going talk how bad the idea is. You can barely get mercury on the phone for any useful help.
So is it similar to a sterndrive but with the actural motor itself on the outside in the saltwater ??
Just one comment is needed,.this thing is SH*T and nobody want an underboard
BRP board of directors needs to be relieved of their duties. This decision should have consequences, those consequences being forcing BRP into bankruptcy where they can bring back Evenrude to their former glory.
@@rimike82 instead of creating this trash underboard, why they didn't try to create a 2strokes outboard with a valve train like 4strokes, they won't even need oil to be injected, so it is a win/win.
Mazda did it, but for cars only, but we know Almost nothing on it and they don't launch the engine on a car or anything else
Is all of BRP from California ? No more gas vehicles and no big H.P. Outboards LOL ☺️
Evinrudes new moto-
NO SPEED, NO MONEY, AND IT BREAKS!!!
Keep up the work Andy!
Hahaha! Will do buddy!
Ahhhaha... just laughed my ass off when you were talking about the 34 seconds to get on plane
We r heading down to Lacrosse for the weigh ins on Sunday. Wish you were open on sundays we would stop in and get our team marine hats!!
I'm from Utah and I would have loved to see this test and give them crap unbelievable
When you put 20 something year olds on a project with no background this is what you get.
Evinrude project ghost, was talked about before BRP killed the brand, was shown to stock holders, and dealers for manitou, and alumacraft. This thing is the G2 115-140-150 3 cylinder that was released just before the brand was killed, so it has very little time on the water. I'd post pics, but youtube won't let me
Time will tell if the motor itself holds up.
Back in the day OMC offered a different set of gears on an exchange program for stern drives in elevation. But they probably didn't think of that because anyone who knew anything about OMC is gone except for engineering.
Wow, final nail in the coffin for BRP outboards….
As a Park City local I wish I knew they were testing this thing out on the Jordanelle. I would have tried to see the thing and have laugh. The elevation is a big issue here for sure but is much less of an issue with 2-strokes vs naturally aspirated 4-strokes. On the Jordanelle with a 225 Pro XS I get only about 47 mph in my Ranger 619 FS using a 20 P Bravo 1 FS. On Mille Lacs last November, same boat nothing changed I ran 55 mph easy and probably could get more with flat conditions. My old 1998 Ranger 481 VS with a carbureted 175 Mercury 2-stroke ran 52 mph on Jordanelle using a 21 P Tempest prop.
Thank you for this information! Sharing
I don't know how to break this to my Evinrude 50 on my 1986 Alumacraft. This is how a company fully dies off and wonders what happened.
You are the best! Love your videos. Cheers from Sweden
Hello to all of y'all Swedes out there! We have a lot of views coming from up there and appreciate everyone of them!
I love my late 80s 70hp 2 smoke Rude. My 96 35 2 smoke is also bulletproof and. I don’t want none of the new crap that blows up every season.
Loved this one 💥🤙. It's probably gonna be a lot of fun problems for good old Neil
You have me F&*king rolling over here!
This has to be the dumbest idea I have ever heard of.I will refuse to work on them
We feel ya buddy!
Just wait till the deck actuators take a shit and people can't trim their motors up to go home
I won’t have to worry about it. I have already told people you buy one don’t call me when it breaks in in 3 weeks
As a regular commenter and detractor when you speak ill of my beloved Evinrude it pains me to say it but you guys were RIGHT. I for one was excited about the inline 3 G2 only for it to be cut before it really hit the market. I'm excited its a 2 stroke but the excitement ended there, what a complete failure. I hang my head in shame and any hopes of an Evinrude revival are gone. When my Johnson 200 dies I guess I go Japanese with a repower. I watched the Alumnacraft reveal and Mr. Heintz had to get the crowd to clap when it was shown.
Overall it's such a damn disappointment! We weren't E-TEC or G2 fans but dammit we would have rather had a G3 or a G2.2. Regardless if he would have hated it or not we would have rather seen that for you Evinrude guys than this POS.
"We're gonna fucking flip over" LMAO!!!!! Love this channel. Keep up the great work guys.
Hahaha One of your best videos ever. Wish I could have liked it more than once. Watched it before going to work. Great start to my day. Thanks from Canada
First comment. Andy is pure gold! This is the first video I’ve watched twice to hear it all. Pure gold!
I'm assuming the "bucket" is pressurized... if pressure is lost that means water is coming in.
or they could have just put the cowl out of the water....
why didn't they just do an inboard/outboard if they wanted a flat deck at the stern
I agree that there 100 percent will be sales to the guys that bleed brp...all the ski doo snowmobile and can am quad and sxs guys will run out and buy one if they looking for a new boat...... as far ass Tru fisherman buying them...I don't see it happening at all......then like u say 3 years tops amd it will be gone.....the not being able to work on it yourself thing will stop alot of guys....the fact that any seal in the world will eventually leak from being dry rotted will stop alot of guys from even thinking about it...then the fact that is has like 3 systems to keep water out all controlled by ur one cranking battery will make every single one they sell be in the junk yard in 10 years or less
How TF are they gonna sell these??? They can only go on brp owned boats ( probably due to reinforcing the transom for this monstrosity). Way to limit the options BRP
You have great shop acoustics for that booming voice. Keeps the mice out.
Just a thought Andy what if they turned the powerhead 180 degrees and mounted it in the boat where its dry and it has air to breath and it could be connected by a flexible joint in a rubber bellows at the transom and the exhaust could exit through another bellows and out the leg lower unit. WAIT a MINUTE I THINK SOMEONE HAS ALREDDY DONE THAT!!
BRP engineered even more ways for their outboards to catastrophically fail. BRP is one of the most incompetent brands in power sports history.
Some peoples kids ! My first question was water in the exhaust but I’m glad they made a air pump for that , should work perfectly 😅😅
Did you not see the ad with couple dancing on the pontoon with a guy on the back playing a violin?
Sadly my '76 200 Johnson is starting to show its age. It pains me to contemplate replacing it with anything but J/E. Suzuki here I come. Anyway thanks for the info and entertaining delivery.
So, let's say I wrap a line in the prop. How do I reach it if I can't be on the back deck? Does it come with a scuba kit?
The salt water is going to kill that motor!!!! Because the salt water here in VA has killed the rotex
Remember Andy a video about procraft I hope you do a series about the return of the procraft
Next weeks video will include a few minutes of ProCraft content dedicated to you!
As a tow guy I would worry about built up fuel vapor in the crap bucket ..boom like on the many salvage jobs I have done for insufficient blower time.
Im just glad the whistle is back!!!!!!!!
BRP sense you are watching... the real thing we need is Andy at this magical table to give real-time feedback. #childrenleadingtheblind
What's stupid is that Rotax has an engine that is 3 cylinder 4 stroke 1000cc that is capable of 200hp
The 3cyl in the PWC and Switch makes 170hp naturally aspirated and 300 with the blower.
I still love my old 2 stroke outboards it doesn't weigh that much they ksn take a few revolutions and the sound of a good solid 2 stroke engine
BRP, creating solutions for problems no one has.
Every time I'm watching one of your videos and you whistle my dog runs over to me like I'm calling her.
A sideways “Sea Drive” we know how that panned out.
The only thing better is if they resurrected “EconoMeasure”
Why did they do that I love my 2017 Etec 90 I-3 paired with a JVX20 Skiff. It was perfect it weighed 70lbs less than the four strokes.
As a longtime Evinrude fan this just makes me sick...... please just bring back a real Evinrude outboard.
Maybe the best Andy vid yet. See ya!
Man got my sub with the commentary and info 🤣🤣
It may flip over but at least the motor will stay dry lmao.
CIA Agent Andy, great video s always!!! When BRP is all pumped about and using "16 bolts" as an advertising bullet point, they need to trademark that ASAP! I can see the auto industry gobbling that catch phrase... "Hey, just picked up a new 2500 pick-up! Oil pan has 20 bolts! Things insane!"
Don't see it / Don't hear it / Don't fear it... Like you said, it's an underboard and yeah I kinda wanna hear it... The new Merc, when it frikn' growls when you start it, c'mon, who doesn't want that. As for the fear factor, let's not even... I can't waste my carpel tunnel & even go there with the keystrokes. LEAD Engineer saying big HP just a fad... well, just saw a vid with a pro angler doing a test ride with a new 2023 bass boat model that can hit the high 80's and the thing got a few million views, so yeah, big HP is not popular and won't sell. Engineering Team that has no interest in the marine industry; good don't do it. Shut it down BRP.
To the CEO of Alumacraft what in all that's holy are you thinking with this on the transom of your boats????
Love this guy!!!!!!
This cant be real? Is it? Andy is funny when he's frustrated or venting. But he seems honest. 😆
I’m so disappointed right now, I have always owned a Evinrude. So sad, WTF 🤦🏻
Tell us how you feel! 🤣 Jo Anne, Bob and Timmy are havin' a day! DON'T BE BOB! 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣!!!!!!
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Oh my boi Andy killed it in this one! 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣