Harley Davidson Milwaukee 8 Crankcase Venting - Trask Transmission Cover!
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- Harley Davidson Milwaukee 8 Crankcase Venting - Trask Transmission Cover! I have used both the @FeulingParts vented dipstick, and the @TraskPerformance vented transmission cover in the past (on my @harleydavidson) 131 crate motor, but as of yet hadn't done anything about it on my Road Glide. This time I went with a Trask vented transmission cover that I purchased from @DennisKirk (crazy quick shipping y'all).
Trask CheckM8 Vented Transmission Cover: www.denniskirk...
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Hey man I just wanted to drop on and say thank you. I bought a brand new rg in 2020 at the age of 26 and less than 8 months later I was put out of work with a stage 3 cancer diagnosis. I didn't get to ride much but thankfully I was able to hold onto the scooter and now I'm cancer free and actually putting miles down and thanks to your videos Im about to start turning my own wrench on some things. Again, thank you
I am so freaking happy for you bud. You take care of yourself and make that thing your own. I hope to raise a glass to you someday!!!
It's definitely rewarding and it was a lot more emotional than I expected it to be but it's together and running. Thanks again!
It's great to hear your doing better. Prayers from Alaska. You coming out to Sturgis or up to Milwaukee this summer? I'll be at both. Hope to see you.
Nah unfortunately it's gonna be a few years before I can do anything like that. I gotta get some other things taken care of financially before I can make any rally trips
Congrats Brother, every day is a gift, live with it love and enjoy Gods gift. Inspire my friend, pass that gift on.
I put an Amazon cover on my Road King by NiceCNC because it saved me about $300. The Trask is definitely nicer, but saving the money was nice also.
Just installed this on my 22 King. It is an easy but pita job to get those bolts out. I ended up just tucking the filter on the right side cover.
Built one of these for my SG, cost about 8 bucks on Amazon. The my biggest joy is getting all the condensate out. You can see steam come out some days once the bike gets up to temp. Also no milky cheese on bolts or oil fill.
Crankcase venting is necessary because air is being constantly displaced whenever the engine is running. Atmospheric pressure at sea level is 14.7 psi. When the piston travels downward it compresses the air within the crankcase, when it travels upward during it's compression stroke the pressure within the crankcase drops quite a bit. So the air within the crankcase is constantly fluctuating as is the air/fuel mixture within the piston chamber.
Oil being an incompressible fluid (air is just a compressable fluid) is constantly moving around with the fluctutions in crank case pressure as well as moving within the oil galleries due to the oil pump pressure. Some of this oil moving around becomes blowby: HD redirects that oil into the piston chamber in order to comply with EPA regulations. While this is good for the environment it's bad for the engine as it results in more carbon build up within the piston chamber.
You want to vent the crank case in order to reduce blowby, but you also want to vent the crankcase in order to reduce migration of oil between the engine and the transmission.
A vented dipstick from Fueling is a good thing to have, also a vented transmission cover from trask. DK customs makes a nice setup to catch oil blowby and instead of having that oil redirected back into the piston chamber it goes into either a catch can or a filter.
Venting the crankcase on an M8 is a no brainer. The larger the displacement an engine has the more venting it needs.
Also a no brainer for the M8 is replacing the OEM CAM plate and Oil pump with one made by either Fueling or S&S. Doing this esnures better lubrication which in turn reduces both wear and heat from friction.
Old mechanics trick... Get a ratchet wrench the size of the hex bolt and just use the allen bit and ratcheting wrench to spin the bolts in and out that way. Keep up the great vids!!
Got one. After going to a stage 3, I had oil dripping out of the air cleaner. Tried the vented dipstick first and that didn't help much, then added the air cleaner bypass trick. Lastly, got rid of the dipstick and added the trask case vent and that seemed to solve the issue.
I also installed the Trask vented transmission cover along with the external head breathers from DK Customs on my 2023 107 Street Glide. My previous two M8s had blowby issues and consumed excessive oil. I have also used the Fueling vented dipstick, which started to leak. Any hoot, the problem with the vented dipstick is the location. More is vented from that area because of the amount oil sloshing around. And because of this, Fueling highly recommends that the internals be replaced at every oil change. The Trask setup sits higher and does not suffer from the oil sloshing around. With the vented dipstick, I was still getting puke from the head breathers into the catch can. With my current combo, the vented transmission cover is doing such a great job that I get damn near zero puke out of the head breathers. So far, my oil level is staying steady. Time will tell. But I am happy with this combination. Trask highly recommends also venting your head breathers externally with their vented cover :-)
Trask also recommends running hose up under the seat and then down behind the right side cover... :-)
I would put my own fitting on the stock cover and run my own hose before I spend $350 on a new cover. Trask can go screw themselves if they think I’m spending $350 for that.
On my previous bike I ran a DK Custom oil catch can with my own hoses and fittings and probably only had maybe $75 in it.
Agreed. I have the DK stuff too. Works good.
@@alanquintus2069 I was very happy with their product.
Venting the transmission doesn’t help with engine oil blow by. The transmission and engine are not connected internally. This would only help with transmission to primary oil transfer which has already been fixed by Harley with a vent tube since 2020.
Nothing better than having peace of mind, knowing your venting excessive crankcase pressure & blow-by issues.
Love my Fueling Parts Vented Dipstick.
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Icon makes a racheting bit set that works perfect getting those bolts out.
I also put the Trask top cover on, it's the way to go, Biohazard Cycles sells it for $293, really quick shipping too, ride safe man!!
Installed the Trask transmission cover on my 2019 ultra which also has the S&S 475 cam. I haven’t had a single issue.
After you showed the Lexivon torx kit you had I went and bought it as well as their Allen head set. Love them!!!
I think that the Trask cover is better because it actually vents the crankcase. The dipstick only vents the oil tank.
I bought the transformer EBS system. With 828 outlaw air filter assembly. And had Harley dealer install S&S intake manifold. Already had the Screaming eagle Tune installed. My 2020 Street Glide is now full stage one. Runs fantastic. Just installed Super Shox and man what a great ride!
Ordered this because my plastic one is leaking a little after doing cams and dyno tuning. Hope this helps. I think you were supposed to route the hose in the caddy area. It's supposed to be at a higher level to the cover.
you are correct, I spoke with Trask, it needs to over the "backbone" of the bike frame under the seat, he has it installed incorrectly
I just installed the cover on my 2022 Heritage Classic 114. When I took off old cover found lots of moisture in the crankcase section. Hopefully it helps that too but wont know till spring
EBS for the breather banjo bolts. Lots of solutions out there but the DKC version is really slick. Got it installed with their 606 AC and looks / works great. The EBS is called transformer.
Ride safe 🤙
Trask is the way to go , after installing ,not even a hint of oil going back into intake!
That has been my experience... :-)
I did the EBS for my Trask Assault AC with Trask's breather plate, got the hoses and catch can from DK Customs and I have a vented dipstick from A1 Cycles. I may even get the Trask transmission vent plate too. You can never have too much venting 🙂As always Mr. Monkey your videos are awesome. Steel Pony over the Chip? Can'[t wait to hear your review and comments about that after Sturgis. PS I will be heading out there this year myself. Hope to run into you and the Mrs.
Your content/method/whatever is top shelf to me. it’s balanced so perfectly for my taste. No long-winded, time wasting intro. Humor, seriousness, honesty, quality educational tips… thanks for bringing it to us. Best wishes from Indiana.
If you miss them look me up. I'll be their too.
@BMG8892 I'm going to visit family in North Manchester. Where you at?
i think you are right on the fact that both products act the same. but it is way to check your oil with a trask cover vs the feuling dipstick. and its much easier to install the feuling dipstick
Most go stage 2 but I don't want the noise on long distance riding or have to do remapping,so opted for,S&S cam bearing ,cam plate, lifter's, Tappets, tappet guides,oil pump , and put a new stock M8 cam , and replaced the air filter with a washable one instead of the paper crap,I believe this is the way they should have come out of the factory
For $350 they should deliver it to your house & install it for you! 😅. It’s a $25 dollar piece of aluminum!
Man they are a pain in the ass trans cover bolts especially with BIG FINGERS CRAP
Yup. It’s one you curse at for sure.
The transmission cover is at the highest point so I think it’s best.
Love to see all your bikes in a lineup
It's hard to deny the off camera mechanics doing all the work when we can hear them with the musical wrenches. 😂😂
Any concern that the filter gets wet down there? (that’s what she said).
I routed mine up, and covered the filter with white t-shirt material so that I can easily see if there’s excessive oil coming out - and to catch that oil before it gets all over the bike.
Mr. Monkey, I truly love your videos. keep up the great work man.
Looks like the touring frame has more room than the soft tail. It was a pain but, worth it.
Socket Head Cap Screw.
Just curious, did you already block off the ports going into the throttle body? (Or did I just miss something?)
Hey I have been watching your videos for sometime now ,and they are so interning and all your bikes are so cool and they way your family also loves bikes is the best see you on the next one
Help me understand; how does putting a vent in the transmission alleviate crankcase pressure in the engine? Aren't the engine and transmission separate from one another and only connected by the primary? I'm new to the M8 coming from a Shovel.
They aren’t totally separate. The seals allow a certain amount of flow between the three.
@@ProfessionalMonkey Thank you friend. Love your videos and I appreciate you reply.
I HAVE THE SAME VENTED DIPSTICK AND STILL HAVE BLOWBY
Hmmmm.... lots??
to the point where there is no oil on the dipstick@@ProfessionalMonkey
I need to install on my low rider s. Is this something that requires maintenance like changing that filter screen or is it a one and done thing?
I know this is off topic a bit but if you're looking to do or put upgraded shocks on your bike you should look into super shox, like for the st bike hint hint 😉 😀
Is it excessive to install BOTH the Trask vented transmission cover and a fueling vented dipstick?
Nah
I’ve seen the vented dip sticks leak. Not sure they all do it?
Mine doesn’t.
Good video man.
Hey buddy! How ya been???
doing well now...had a bout with the ole C stopped my riding for a bit. But now cancer free and back to getting er done. Really enjoy our videos, kept me busy during dark times. @@ProfessionalMonkey
Correct me if im wrong but have read that Harley fixed this issue in 20 or 21. I have a 21 Street Glide and ive had zero issues.
Oil pump update... M8s still suffer from too much crankcase pressure. Your engine will run better if you vent it. The Trask setup in my opinion with external head breathers is the best combination. It is working great for me now. Not as good with vented dipstick, which started to leak over time.
Thanks Richard. I just realized that I had a complete brain fart when I made this comment. I was thinking of the M8 sumping issue. Duh!! Totally different from blow by. Anyway thank you again for the advice and I'm definitely going to look into one of these corrections for the blow by issue.
@@blownmouse another good insurance policy is to install the Fueling short sump plug... HD quality control is lacking these days. the sump plug they use on the bottom of the case is too long. and, if installed too high into the case, it can block oil pump flow, which could lead to sumping. it is amazing to me that HD has not sent out a recall on this. there is one particular service manager who admitted that HD is aware of this potential problem. the shorter plug is installed at a specific height into the case preventing protrusion. ride safe : - )
@@richardrussell500 Thank you again. I haven't heard of the plug issue. I'll definitely bring it up to my dealers service manager.
You bet... :-)
If you vent the crankcase with a Trask cover, would it make sense to seal off the breather bolts to the air filter to prevent oil ingestion?
Aren’t you supposed to route the breather up to a higher point on the bike ?
Also, the dipstick and trans top are not the same as external breathers. Re routing the breathers does just that. Sends the oily mist elsewhere and does nothing to relieve crankcase pressure. The vented dipstick and trans top do.
Iron Anchor Cycle has a great video that explains this. Thanks for sharing !
Yep exactly right I have the trask vent and the trask clear intake and mist still got into the intake and some oil , external breathers got rid of the mist
External breathers get rid of the mist in the intake and just send it elsewhere. To a catch can or into the atmosphere. It does not stop the mist !
@@toolmaker5150 yes that’s the point to not go into the intake lol who cares where else it goes !!!!!!
@@toolmaker5150 and mist will never stop if that’s what your getting at that’s how engines always work
Hey what tuner would u recommend I wanna do s&s 475 cam and few other little bits on my 2023 roadglide special. Mabey the 30/30 cam I just want the pull and that low grunting sound I got a bassani 2into1 exhaust going to get a trask assault intake and I'm doing the trask transmission cover any input would be appreciated from u brother!! Keep up the good work very informative and funny vidoes man lol!!!
Sorry loud and proud
I solved the misting issue into the air intake the breather bolts bypass with fuel line two into one to a see thru one way gas fuel filter when it turns dark chunk it put on another easy pesy i remember the harley solution drill hole pull the little vent tube thru don't know if it worked anyone know about this?
When can we get sime monkey merch to wear. Loads and proud
There’s a mercy store! www.professional-monkey.com
Would the Harbor Freight ICON flex head ratchet and bit set get you into where you need to be fro the crankcase breather cover?
I guess the link to the tool wasn’t allowed. 😂. Thanks for the content!
Quit teasing us bro!!!! 3 more days to wait!
What was the torque specs on that cover? If any.. just snug?
hey so a little off topic but i cant find it in your videos. what the bracket you have put on your bikes to center the mufflers with the saddle bags ?
Hogworkz has some adjustable exhaust centering brackets
I get alot of blow by gasses on my twin cam. Have had to change out the air filter that was full of oil. Wonder if that would work for the 103
Yes that or the dipstick will work
@Peter I don't do any of this crap I just ride the bike . Lol
@@Peter-nm1psYou can ! Just go to your dealer and buy one.
@@xtreme4stringbass not necessarily. I only put 3 quarts in my engine and still blow by and lose oil, 1qt every 1500 miles or so. I did a little different but much cheaper thing and haven’t had any leakage issues since. 🤷🏻♂️
Professional monkey, bro I just watched your take away from sturgis is 2022. Don’t forget to sit down with your wife and enjoy some time with her in your rv when you get there! And don’t forget. Just thought I would remind you.
if you want to sell the old cover I would be interested.I want to try to make my own.Thank You
Love your channel and to each his own, but is Trask owned by HD with those prices? Lol. I'm a cheap bastard so that's a no go for me.
I had to toss the Trask filter as it was faulty and use a different filter... :-(
Parts giant 319$
Hasnt anyone ever asked about the marshall mini stack ? Hows about you play us a tune.
Thanks for the content, how more times were you going to pick up that box, lol
For the money, shouldn't The Motor Company use metal parts?
Its sad that Harley has been aware of this problem for so many years and you still have to go to the aftermarket to fix a problem on a $30K+ motorcycle!!!
Why isn’t Harley doing this from factory !…..chrome cost to much, plastic would be cheaper
If a guy was buying a used 2022 low miler , Do you think its unreasonable to insist that the Harley Dealer do what should have obviously been done from the factory as a stipulation before the deal is done . At their cost of coarse . ?
Is it worth doing both? Oil cap and trans cover?
Nah, overkill, and people smarter than me have said that could be bad for the motor actually.