Unsolved Mysteries with Robert Stack - Season 4, Episode 14 - Full Episode
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- Опубликовано: 7 мар 2019
- This episode includes: Larry's Last Race & UD, UD: Til Death Do Us Part, Millionairess Murder & UD, Dances With Moomess & UD.
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Unsolved mysteries was a huge part of my childhood robert stack is the best host of unsolved mysteries
mal_30 Yea Yea we know
I don't trust anyone in authority that doesn't blink their eyes. That prosector is guilty of his own sinister crimes.
What a charmer that Larry Race is. Wants to stop cheating on his wife because of the most romantic reason ever: "there's nothing wrong with her".
He sounds exactly like William H Macy’s character in Fargo.
Of course can meek people like that actually kill? Yes. But I smell a rat in his conviction. He’s personally a silly man, but I think the idea he’s swimming back and forth in Lake Superior to cut life rafts?
That’s a sell. I’m not sure I would’ve bought it as a juror
Nothing wrong with her *except for the fact she looks like a bloated female version of **_Carrot Top.._* 🤔
Honestly, I see nothing wrong with it. Obviously he is not in love with her, but he is trying. Many people get married before ever knowing why, and for all the wrong reasons, usually society-mandated. So... He was just being honest.
Larry's whole victim-blaming tone really bothered me, the way he talked about his wife, almost like the mechanical issues with the boat and the way it was handled, was all her fault and because she was panicky, that's why Larry panicked and made had decisions. Uh huh...
He definitely seems sus. I really don't think he would be blaming her for nearly every aspect of her death if he wasn't trying to shrug off responsibility.
The only thing with more holes in it than that boat is Lying Larry’s story.
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You won!
Hope she sees this bro 🤣🤣🤣
@@chrishansenisapatofile5746 Wait til i find u. U will end up just like Debbie mfer.
Thanks to a viewer's tip, Helen Rose Myerion was found living in West Chester, New York, where she had lived since 1986. Her daughter and granddaughter were put in contact with Helen's siblings and they made arrangements for a reunion. Her siblings have since passed away, but she remained in contact with them until their deaths.
"Join me, maybe perhaps you can solve a mystery"--Robert Stack. Man, I liked this guy. What a great narrator!
Its somewhat convenient that Larry's boat miraculously started after he put his wife in the raft and she went adrift.
I guess you know nothing about mechanics huh because I’ve had many vehicles that had starter issues. Sometimes I’ll go out and start my truck and it would fire right up. Sometimes it would take me 20 minutes and two batteries to get it to start once but then, right after that, it’ll fire up every time for a week and then it randomly won. It’s called an intermediate starter like the expert stated I guess you’ve never experienced that, so he must be a murderer then.
Yeah, butt ur car and/or boat is a 1959 clunker sadly sadly @@yamaha230xxx
Forgive me Mr Race but if you are innocent then your story is one of the most unfortunately unconvincing explanations from an innocent man I've ever heard.
Not sure the year of this, I missed that, but radios on boats have been around for a LONG time for emergency reasons. I'm still suspicious 🤔.
I believe him 100%. It’s all completely plausible. What I don’t believe is the district attorney. His experts were hired by him to prove his points, but yet all the defense experts, according to him all wrong, but all is that he paid for all right.
Speaking of unconvincing.....the Prosecution's theory (him swimming all over the place in scuba gear and cutting the raft from underneath) is about as ridiculous as it gets.
@@09rja are used to scuba dive when I was younger, and in the story, they said that he possessed a dry suit, not a wet suit. This is important because they said that the waters were freezing cold, and it was nighttime a dry suit is designed for warm water and offers no protection against so they want us to believe that he was scuba diving at night and freezing, cold weather, with no protection and no light, and was able to magically find a tiny raft, and then find his way back to the boat all at night freezing cold water with no protection or light
@@yamaha230xxx That DA is so full of shit.
Larry killed her. Also, did anyone else notice how the guy wearing glasses talking about the case didn't blink once?
OMG, he only like, HALF-BLINKS. SO weird.
"I got this woman here, theres nothing wrong with her". Wow, what a love letter to a departed wife. My friend was murdered by her cheating husband 13 year ago, and sorry but I smell a rat here with Larry. AFTER he pushed his wife out into the water he swam back and the boat started? Uh huh.
Exactly... His story doesn't hold water (pun intended). Larry sounds this like this girl I once dated that had substance abuse issues... "I've been clean and sober for 10-days!" Yup heard that a million times before....
I really enjoy Dennis Farina, but no one does it like Robert Stack. ❤️
Farina blows
@@MaximusWolfe I actually liked Farina in 2008 (although I was like Stack the best)! But, looking back I'm not much of a Farina fan compared to in 2008. But I do respect Farina because he was a police officer. Considering I back the blue.
Nailed it Katie! Robert Stack is one of my idols. Big respect to both men, moreso because Stack was an Ariel gunnery instructor in the army, and Farina was a veteran, AND Farina was also a police officer!
Both awesome men in service forces. And hosting the greatest crime show of all time. May both rest peacefully. Thankful for their services, and hosting of shows, and because of their caring hearts for the innocent.
One more thing to add on irrelevant to the comment, but about this episode.
Age 18 with 46 is a fucking weird combination! But I smiled when I read the wife's killer died in prison.
Grammar error. I meant to say "although I always like Stack the best".
Just because Larry told the deputy that he had two rafts, doesn't mean he really did and further, he could have easily poked a hole in one.
That's what they said in the show
he was a cheater, no one should believe a word he says
Just because the DA said he didn’t doesn’t mean he didn’t I own four trucks but if my friends only ever seen me drive two of them does that mean other two simply don’t exist
@@howdareyouexist yeah cause we all know that someone who cheats is also a murderer by your logic someone who speeds because they’re late for work is also a murderer
The guy seems to have done it. But I will admit from a legal perspective I could see why so many people think the jury was biased.
Who takes the risk of going out on a _freezing cold_ great lake, at _night, with no radio_ , a flimsy raft, or even two flimsy rafts, to celebrate getting back together? He may be innocent, but for sure, most unwise.
Piatequila you’re referring to the Powell’s
not to mention a boat that supposedly has had problems before. If your boat has had problem before then wouldn't you make sure your raft is in good condition? and you have oars
The biggest mystery of all is how Larry Race managed to sell that leaky-ass boat!
How do you let a guy who looks like that cheat on you? Multiple times!!
@Piatequila sound advice.
Low self esteem
That guy is infinitely better looking that his wife. That is a fact
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@@jwhite1559 this is why. You speak the truth.
This is gold thank you so much for the upload.👍🏻
I grew up watching this show with my grampa. Thanks for the uploads, I ove the show, and I love the comforting memories it gives me.
Me, too.
"If you only knew Larry.", "Except for his affairs." Hello?? Anybody home?
doesnt mean everyone who cheats is a killer. thats idiotic thinking. its just as easy to leave the person youre with and be done. and the insurance pay out wasnt even worth it.
Well, there are many millions more people who have serial affairs than who have serial affairs and then end up murdering their wives, so implying that him having serial affairs is a cincher for him being a murderer too doesn't really, well, cinch anything at all.
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I raised an eyebrow at that too but I understand why his children believe him. I don't have a good relationship with my father, he and my mother have been divorced since I was a toddler and I still would have difficulty believing he killed my mother. As far as her parents, keep in mind that that's just what her mother said publicly. That may not be what they feel in their hearts. I know many people who absolutely loathe their children's spouses or even their adult children themselves but they keep their mouths shut for their grandkids' sake.
Larry killed her.
That Larry Race story.. what a doozy. Sounds like the jury got it right.
Be fair to flare!
Larry was my grandfather's best friend before my grandfather passed, I've known Larry my whole life and the jury was definitely right in convicting him. He visited about a month ago and I have no doubt in my mind that he intentionally murdered Debbie.
@@laurensimon4046 Tell us more. All you've told us is that you have no doubt that he did it, and that Larry was your grandfather's best friend before your grandfather passed. That tells us nothing about the specifics of why you think Larry definitely did it. The question it DOES raise is that if you are so intensely sure, then it makes me wonder about your grandfather that he should consider Larry such a loyal friend when he so obviously came across as someone willing to intentionally murder his wife. Either your grandfather approved of someone everyone could see had the ability to murder, which raises questions - he either looked past that in a very grace-filled way, or he approved of it himself. Since your comment here doesn't on the outside come off as particularly grace-filled, it certainly tips gut feeling towards the latter, but only circumstantially, and with no concrete context. Just like the forensic and legal basis for Larry's conviction, whether he did it or not.
@@catherinespark sorry for the late reply, but my grandparents were his friends for years and are very adamant about him being innocent. Larry has always been very off putting to me and the fact that he immediately got married after the murder tips me off even more. he has no remorse to this day about the murder.
Amen. He's Guilty.
Boating rule # 1, never leave your boat unless it's sinking...
Rod Severson little too late for that
Oh I guess you’re a boating expert...hey look...it’s Christopher Columbus kids!
He caused her to panic all while knowing the boat wasn't sinking, he was guilty imo.
COON HUNTER #1 you haven’t lived on the seas like I have. I grew up in a boat. You are not an expert.
@@CheapJabroni The sea has nothing to do with it, it's about a murder remember, you don't know me.
I HAVE GOT TO ASK - if the boat broke down the first time; why not install a cb radio?
duck featherland That’s what I’m saying I grew up on boats and would go boating all the time. My family always had radio
There’s a lot wrong with this story
He didn't think he needed too since he went on his boat all the time. My grandmother has been on his boat and he always had two life rafts, one that had holes and one that was in good condition. I have said before that I have no doubt in my mind that he intentionally ruined both rafts to murder Debbie ESPECIALLY since he married another woman after Debbie's death. His new wife has always given me weird vibes. Larry has always been a creepy ass man to me especially in my childhood.
37:15 that car, that color, is EVERYTHING
D R2 1941 #PIMP 😂
I bet it was fun to rent those vintage cars for the re-enactments.
Omg! Red flags straight away... Larry U guilty as hell
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When he swam back to the boat, it started. Miracle. He should still be in prison!
He is unfortunately out as a free man. Every time that man visits is torture, he is amazing at lying and manipulation which is why I assume he was let out on good behavior.
@@laurensimon4046 I'll never forget watching this episode many years ago. Murderer! If you know him, I'm sorry you have to be exposed to him. He will get his, one day.
@@Daniela-Christianson The double slit science experiment proves God is always watching. Karma gets everyone.
The Jeanine tovrea case was one of the spookiest scariest segments
If you watch and saw mysteries there’s way spookier ones. I wonder why somebody wanted her dead
Joe Joe Robinson
I wonder as well.
@@joejoerobinson8724 i even looked on Unsolved Mysteries website recently....its still unsolved 😕😕😕😕😕💀
What I don’t get, is the guy who committed the murder was caught and sentenced.
Why didn’t anyone ask him who hired him?
@@bobbeaumont324 It was her husband son. Look it up
Helen Rose was gorgeous! To join the military in the 40's, (or pretty much anytime), as not only a woman but an aboriginal woman, took some guts.
jennifer ryerse jones she wasn’t gorgeous (you just expect Ojibway women to be ugly squaws and when u see one who is pretty you gasp with amazement) but I agree that the professor did a great job instilling a sense of urgency into her young, impressionable mind. Having had the drive and determination to pursue her dream, i bet her life was far more accomplished and adventurous than that of her siblings, who remained primitive savages stuck in propaganda about some mythical past. No wonder that she does not want to meet with them. She has nothing in common with those people and would probably be embarrassed to introduce her family and friends to them.
@@bauTom She was gorgeous actually. And it seems many here agree.
@@bauTom "ugly squaws"? You have no idea what the OP thinks of natives anywhere. Don't project your ignorant shit onto people. "Primitive savages"??? Wow. "Mythical past"? You mean their heritage? Class.
Native Americans of any gender join the military in ratios that are the highest of any race. Even when we weren't even considered citizens in our own land.
I think the uniform is very becoming on many young pilots. My family is Air force as well but I am curious if there was maybe more to her life style that they argued over. I feel like a dick face assuming anything because leaving the reservation alone is enough to ignite inner turmoil in a protective father but it just sent a question mark off in my brain.
A viewer recognized the voice of "Gordon Phillips" as his brother-in-law, James Cornell Harrod. He contacted others who knew him and played a recording of the message; they agreed that his voice was on it. One of these friends contacted the police and told them about their suspicions. In 1995, he was arrested after fingerprints found at the scene were matched his. Some were found on the kitchen window, which was the killer's entry point. Others and a palmprint of his were found in the kitchen.
According to his ex-wife, he also confessed to being involved in the murder, claiming that he was paid $100,000 to commit the crime. Jeanne's daughter, who had previously met Phillips, identified Harrod as him in a live lineup. In 1997, he was tried and convicted of first-degree murder. He was sentenced to death in 1998 and re-sentenced to death in 2005. However, he has yet to identify who hired him to kill Jeanne. In fact, he continues to maintain his innocence.
It is suspected by many that the person who hired the contract hit was Ed's son, Ed "Hap" Tovrea, Jr.. Ed's children did not get along with her, and police believe that they may have hired Harrod because she received most of his money after his death. Authorities did discover that Harrod and Ed Jr. had been in contact with each other through phone for several weeks up to her murder. 52 calls were made between them on the day before it. Ed Jr. had also paid Harrod $35,000 around the time of it. However, neither Ed Jr. nor any of his siblings were ever charged. He has since passed away.
Thank u for that. So sad.
That is sad that the person who most likely hired Harrod died a free man. His siblings need to pay the price he didn't, and they shouldn't have gotten a dime of Ed's money.
Hey Jewel Fuck off youre in every thread.
@vegeta solo...thank you for that update. Please keep it up because I enjoy hearing how these cases get worked out over the years!
That is terrible the son was not convicted of hiring Harrod! That's horrible they let him be free
Why didn't he set the flares BEFORE the situation got way worse?
Really, I think it's obvious. 🙄
Flares and where is the radio to call for help
Forgot all about the radio.
@@matthewspaltro7142 me too
BE FAIR TO FLARE !
I have never for one second believed Larry Race. He can barely hide his disdain for his wife in this interview. I think he's a dangerous narcissist.
Yes. He says "there was nothing wrong with her", trying to make it seem like he really wanted to quit being a philanderer. Comes off sounding like he thought there was a whole lot wrong with her.
@@jenniferryersejones9876 Yeah, his hatred for her just seeps through. He almost wants to say "You know, if she wasnt such a bitch I wouldn't have HAD to cheat on her!" but stops just short. He also still seems angry and annoyed over her emotional reaction that night. A cheater does not a murderer make, but this cheater certainly hated his wife and wanted her out of the picture.
Yep & he shouldn't of ever gotten out of prison, that poor woman basically froze to death in that lake suffering til her last breath.
If only you are all judged by the same measures you judge others.. you would be shocked to find out what some see you as.
@@Panwere36 i've never murdered anyone. That dude's story was as full of holes as that raft.
1:58 Larry's Last Race
19:15 Til Death Do Us Part
22:37 Millionairess Murder
34:48 Dances With Moomess
MVP
You have such a good memory.
Larry Race got convicted but Natalie Wood died in a similar situation except she was afraid of water and I don't know about you but I'd not get on a plane if I was afraid of heights and I certainly would not go out onto open water if I was afraid of drowning.
Robert Wagner murdered Natalie Wood and Christopher Walken witnessed it.
@@luke125a likely scenario they both know what happened drunk as they all were
RIP Jeannie! So sad, she loved her husband and he loved her very much. Really wanted her to live comfortably even after he died. Somebody's greed and love of money caused her to lose her life.
Whoever would have the most to gain by her death would be a likely suspect. No idea who though
I guess their a few good ppl still left that's not consumed with greed.
It is sad how Justice has not been fully served.
@@s.m.9008 100k means very little when you're sitting on Death Row.
I can't stand kids of wealthy parents who just expect to inherit their money!! It shouldn't go to the kids..if the kids want money ..they need to get off their lazy a** and make their own!!!!! The spouse and or charity should get the inheritance!
What Larry said on camera is not what a man falsely convicted of murder would say. They wouldn't be offended the prosecutor was able to convince a jury he was guilty, they'd rather be outrageously alarmed over their being an innocent person being wrongly convicted.
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they really tried to make the RESIDENTIAL school seem like a regular school. ugh
it was
UPDATE: It turned out that the person that hired Harrod to kill her was her husbands son. He wanted to get his hands on the assets her husband had left her.
@Piatequila I do not know for sure, but I don't know why since I am sure Harrod had to have told police about his coconspirator.
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If the boat took on water, it would definitely cause starter issues. The water would short out the starter.
The Helen Rose story is heart breaking in so many ways.
Pockets MacCartney it doesn’t break my heart to know that a young lady got away from a life of primitive poverty and went on to accomplish great things in Canada, Europe and the USA. Feel free to side with the losers and whiners who stayed and wasted their lives.
@@bauTom How do you know they wasted their lives?
@@Darkasknightfall You mad bro? 🤣
Now I want to find a wife that there's nothing wrong with.
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The music is so eerie
The prosecution certainly didn't have an airtight case, but I feel pretty safe saying Larry Race is guilty.
The affairs, the cuts in the raft and the fact the whole thing took five hours before he went for help. She's in the raft / water at 9:30pm and you're getting help at 2am.
I don't think Larry swam back and donned his scuba gear and swam back over to puncture holes because that would have taken too long and she would have drifted away and he might not have been able to find her again. I think he did it while he was pushing her away from the boat. He had a knife in his pocket, took it out and punctured away, then swam back to the boat and fired it up after fixing what he'd deliberately messed with to make it not start earlier. Also notice how conveniently he left the light on, on his boat knowing full well that he'd need to see his boat to swim back to it. And they didn't find the knife he used, because it's at the bottom of Lake Superior.
Agreed
His account sounds so phoney him playing the hero bigging himself up about being stronger etc, what a loser.
@@michelleg89_12 Yup
Exactly 👍
That sounds about right, plus she had insurance on her life.
Larry wasn’t sorry, he’s just sorry he got caught. And saying sorry only to look humble on tv.
@Robert Gardea To be honest, his adultery doesn´t bother me, its his inexplicable actions on the boat. Why didn´t he call the coast guard when they initially had trouble? Not recognizing the light from his own boat, is just silly, then miraculously, the boat starts when he arrives and THEN he decides to call the coast guard. lol. His story just sounds like total BS.
@Robert Gardea Interestingly, they gloss over the fact, Larry was unfaithful to his wife up until the weekend prior to his wife´s murder. lol. But here he was saying, they were reuniting and working out their problems.
@Robert Gardea
Because they are gullible.
Knowing the boat had...issues...he still takes his wife out for a midnight cruise. Knowing the boat had issues, he still doesn't bother getting a radio put in? I'm pretty dang sure he wasn't falsely convicted!
@Robert Gardea he may have been paying for their support
My Father is full blooded Cherokee, and my he told us a real Indian man or women always keeps their word, no matter what. So I'm not surprised she didn't return
NO ONE CARES 😂
At first I thought Larry race was innocent but if you really analyze every aspect of the case he’s guilty as shit
Larry is trying to act like this was Titanic and his wife was Rose, but a super manic Rose. Not letting him on the damn life raft.
Patry Atry It was just a reference I made, not the show. I’m sure once the film came out Larry would try to use it as an example though ;)
Larry, we had a renewed spirit, tapes of favourite music. What crap 😂
A viewer recognized the voice of "Gordon Phillips" as his brother-in-law, James Cornell Harrod. He contacted others who knew him and played a recording of the message; they agreed that his voice was on it. One of these friends contacted the police and told them about their suspicions. In 1995, Harrod was arrested after fingerprints found at the scene were matched his. Some were found on the kitchen window, which was the killer's entry point. Others and a palm print of his were found in the kitchen.
According to his ex-wife, he also confessed to being involved in the murder, claiming that he was paid $100,000 to commit the crime. Jeanne's daughter, who had previously met Phillips, identified Harrod as him in a live lineup. In 1997, he was tried and convicted of first-degree murder. He was sentenced to death in 1998 and re-sentenced to death in 2005. However, he has yet to identify who hired him to kill Jeanne. In fact, he continued to maintain his innocence. He died in prison on January 28, 2019; he was sixty-five.
It is suspected by many that the person who hired the contract hit was Ed's son, Ed "Hap" Tovrea, Jr. Ed's children did not get along with her, and police believe that they may have hired Harrod because she received most of his money after his death. Authorities did discover that Harrod and Ed Jr. had been in contact with each other through phone for several weeks up to her murder. Fifty-two calls were made between them on the day prior. Ed Jr. had also paid Harrod $35,000 around that time. However, neither Ed Jr. nor any of his siblings were ever charged. He has since passed away.
Larry is guilty AF. The way he explains the situation in such a calm way and acts like he was trying to clean up his act..don't buy it. Total narcissistic sociopath.
Yeah, I have to agree, the feeling I get from him is like a powerful wave of "get away from this person IMMEDIATELY!"
cases shouldn't be about feelings
Larry Race's situation is one you almost never hear. How often does the victim's family believe the accused person's story, especially in the case of in-laws.
they were lightweights. Even if Larry didn't kill her, he treated her like shit for years. If Debbie was my daughter I wouldn't piss on this dude if he was on fire. And if he killed her in such a cruel way wouldn't be alive.
@@joshlight6892 she choose the relationship tho she could have left
Larry Race was released on parole after 22 years. He is guilty as sin.
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Them glasses is whats a sin. Dayum.
You seem to think EVERYONE charged with murder is guilty. There was absolutely no evidence to convict him.
@@ytyt3922 There was plenty of evidence. He had motive, opportunity and his story did not add up. I've been around boats my entire life and can tell you that the nonsense he said does not add up. Those punctures in the life raft didn't get there by themselves. Who goes out on a boat in the dead of winter? The boat magically started when he tried it? He didn't get to shore and call for help immediately? Nope. Not buying it.
I think he is guilty
I definitely think that guy killed his wife. He is sketchy. He "wanted" to stop cheating on her? How about just not doing it? And he so generously says that there was "nothing wrong with her." I also wonder why they were out in the middle of the lake at night. His story sounds like total BS.
I mean why does his entire family buy the lie then? And the wife’s family?
Maybe unsolved mysteries got that blurb wrong, and I don’t know any of those people personally but usually when a husband murders a wife there’s a history of violence and controlling behavior and it’s usually always the same response from the wife’s family “oh he beat her, he drank, he was controlling, etc” they’re not shocked at the idea he would do it.
So I don’t know why her family is willing to go on TV and say they don’t buy it. Not evidence sure but it’s unusual.
Also, if Debbie had no faith in the boat after the problem the year before, why would she willingly go out with him in it after dark?
never believe a cheater, they are liars by nature
@@eriknervik9003 Different times, my father used to beat my mother but my grandparents on my moms side never had a bad thing to say about him. They always believed my mother must have done something wrong for him to hit her because they thought he was a great guy, most of the time it was because she couldn't keep my brother and I quiet enough for him to sleep during the day. She stayed with him for years because of this and even when I confronted my grandparents when I was an adult they still never thought anything was truly wrong. Denial is a very real thing. Oh and by the way I don't know how many murder cases you are aware of but many do not have a history. Some of the most recent ones to point to is Scott Peterson, Chris Watts and Martin Mac Neil just to name a few, no abuse history but all had affairs.
That's the exact prejudice they are talking about. He cheated on his wife -- wishes he didn't, but so do millions of people. Worth examining why.
After the broadcast, two witnesses came forward, claiming to have found a life raft on Lake Superior a year after Debbie’s death. They believed that it was the same type Larry had used that night. However, their testimony was inconsistent. In some instances, they claimed it was found in 1983. In others, they could not be certain when it was done so. Certain details in their story suggest that they actually did not find it until 1992. Furthermore, they sometimes changed the location of where it was done so, from Lake Superior to a nearby river. As a result, during one of Larry's appeals, their testimony was dismissed.
After all possible appeals were exhausted unsuccessfully, Larry was eventually released on parole after serving twenty-two years of his life sentence, pursuant to statute allowing him to be considered for parole after seventeen years. He continues to maintain his innocence. No one has yet come out to prove his claims.
In fact, some evidence brought up at trial (but not in the segment) seems to point towards Larry's guilt. First of all, five hours passed between the time that he lost Debbie and the time he reached shore. He claimed that he was passed out from exhaustion during this time. Several friends were with him on the boat a few days before the incident; they noticed no problems with it. Also, no one reported ever seeing two life rafts on board.
Several gallons of water were found in the life raft found on the boat, despite the fact that Larry initially claimed that it had never been in the water. When told of this, he then changed his story, claiming that he had thrown it in the water. Also, both caps to its air chambers were securely closed, even though he claimed that he had thrown it aside after it couldn’t inflate. His diving knives (which prosecutors believed he used to slash it) were not found on the boat. Finally, he had been in an extramarital relationship up until the weekend prior to Debbie’s death.
Although this evidence seems to point towards Larry's guilt, many are still certain that he was wrongfully convicted.
Absolutely nothing you said actually points to his guilt. On top of that they even specifically said in the segment his knives were checked and none of them matched the holes in the raft.
All you did was present circumstantial stuff that proves less than nothing.
Whether he did it or not, it's important to remember that evidence is important and the prosecution, whether correct or incorrect, was completely in the wrong for trying to convict him on absolutely nothing.
@@TheTrueDiablix 👍
@@TheTrueDiablix The holes in the raft didn't match the ONE knife found on board. Larry was known to own divers knives. The type of knife prosecution believe made the holes. They were never recovered.
Just a clarification.
@@refinedsugar And that also would clarify my point about the case being purely circumstantial. The importance of strong evidence can not possibly be overstated
@@TheTrueDiablix I understand your point. No solid evidence. Not enough to convict.
The only counterpoint I can make is the defense didn't do much to overcome the state's circumstantial case.
Jim burnside was a nut my uncle and grandfather knew him in Florida
He looks like that bag guy with the mustache in the movie 'Gangs of New York'
Good on Helen! She wanted to make a difference, to do something to make the world better. She didn't deserve to be punished for that.
This legendary shows' re-enactments are true works of art. The research and attention to detail is unmatched, especially with anything that you would see today.
Most shows if, let's say for example, there's a girl who was jogging with a dog through the woods at the time she was abducted you would have a modern show's creators say "okay let's get a girl with brown hair and find me a dog trainer that will do this for cheap".
Unsolved Mysteries was more like " find me a girl who's 5'4", brunette, 120 lbs, have her wear a blue blazer and Grey sweatpants. We also need a black and tan German Shepherd with a white stripe on its chest. "
Right here in this very video at 20:31 the actor playing the assailant has a small tattoo of a knife on his forearm. Earlier in the show the real guy was shown in a picture with that same tattoo.
Basically, if you see it happen in an [Robert Stack version] Unsolved Mysteries re-enactment you can take it to the bank that it probably happened almost exactly like that.
John Desanto later served as a judge at the St. Louis County Courthouse in Duluth,MN. He retired about 4 years ago I think.
Harrod died in prison in 2019. Though never substantiated, it is believed that the man's kids from his first marriage arranged the hit as they never got along with the second wife and it was she who had receiced most of their father's estate. The oldest son believed to have been the ringleader of the hit has since passed away.
I don't believe this dudes story. He used the flair gun when his wife was out on the lake by herself?? That should have been the first thought. I have been on lake Superior before. You don't mess around out there. Very large body of water that NEVER warms up. Super deep. Most people who go on that lake do it with plenty of equipment on board for reasons I have just mentioned.
@cinnamongirl3121 yes I have. It's quite Erie in fact. Bc like you said, it is so big and deep. It's beautiful up there though. Just gorgeous. Sad such a bad thing happened in such a beautiful place.
The thing that makes zero sense is why not call the coast guard when they first had trouble? Instead of doing it after he swam back to his own boat by "mistake". THEN he decides to call the coast guard, and miraculously his motor starts working. Too much BS in his story.
@@Romans8-9 I agree. Also... Who carries emergency punctured rafts with them? You always make sure your equipment is intact.
if she died of hypothermia , how'd he manage to swim 🏊 all over creation
He took her out there just to kill her I believe, that lake looks like a ocean it's so big.
Ok first story: why were they out in the water again? I trust no one on the water or cliffs.
Yeah but that's you. Plenty of people obviously differ in that and come to no harm from it. Do you trust no-one in cars too in case they crash them? Nobody around bonfires or camp fires in case they turn arsonist? Nobody handing out drinks in case they're poisoned? What's your stance on the constitutional right to carry a gun?
@@catherinesparkI said what I said.
Larry, Larry, Larry...
We really aren't that stupid. 😂
True that Larrys case was totally circumstantial. They really failed to definitively prove he killed his wife, however, the lack of evidence also fails to prove he DIDNT either. That case was a total stinker from the start. Inept prosecutors hurrying to indict and try suspects often bring them into court with insufficient evidence. The Legal System needs a *MAJOR OVERHAUL.* Education and patience when it comes to taking cases to trial needs to change
It’s guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Not innocent beyond a reasonable doubt.
If your life is on the line in court always speak on your behalf if your innocent & trust God will see you through.
My husband wouldn’t have left me no matter what he’d die with me before he left me for anything I’m serious I don’t know either if he truly is guilty but I just don’t see how you could ever leave your loved one in the dark cold while she’s crying and screaming
He didn't love her he wanted her gone.
COON HUNTER #1 it’s 😞 so sad ; scary
@@debeden444 it's very sad, it shows some ppl have no souls or feelings.
no if he thought she was in a safe raft then he had to leave her or die like Leo in Titanic. Whether he did it or not im not sure id have to hear witness testimony
IF I was that poor wife of Larry Race, I would have said, " on a boat in the dark and I can't swim? NO way in hell! - take me to a FIVE star restaurant!"
Love this show
Never go out on a mini ocean like that in a little boat.
My Uncle did time with James burnside he's a sick dude
This is gonna be awesome.
It's hard to believe someone could walk away from their entire family and not see them for 50 years just because the dad didn't sign the paper.
I wonder if Helen Rose just didn't wanna be found. She left, went on with her life, and never looked back. She knew that her life and destiny were bigger than being on the reservation. She could have kept regular or some contact with her family. It's odd that she lost touch so much that they put it on Unsolved Mysteries.
My guess is that she was estranged from her father and family for some reason, probably stemming back from her mother's death and her father not wanting to sign the papers. She left and didn't look back. Something more must have been going on for her to do that.
I live in MB and the condition of the Reserves are like living in a 3rd world country...even back in the 40's. So I agree with your whole Hypothesis cause that's exactly what happened!
Contary to white belief, we are close to family she would never stop talking to any of her relations.
Jewel Clark sh was located. She didnt meet them.
Hemi204 that’s EXACTLY what PROBABLY happened. ⬅️I’m with stewpid 😂
DiscoverPlatinum limited minds, primitive people, alcohol abuse, incest, limited opportunities... she had plenty of reasons to leave and fulfill her dreams/destiny. She’s probably embarrassed to introduce those people to her own friends and family that’s why she will not met them.
No the murdering cheating husband planned the whole thing. I made poor judgement, lol yea, deciding to kill her instead of being divorced and being done. It sickens me to hear he got parole
Only a narcissist/sociopath would be delusional enough to think it would be a good idea to testify at his own trial. The second Larry opened his mouth, I felt he was lying.
PHUS! PHUS!
“a government boarding school” A RESIDENTIAL SCHOOL.
Some top-notch acting from the guy playing the principal. "AND DEATH!!"
For those that don't know anything about Lake Superior, no one takes 'a romantic midnight cruise' in a 20' boat, on May 11th. It was 50F ambient airport temp at midnight, with a water temp of under 40F. Winds were 10-15 mph out of the northwest. This would simply have never happened, ever. It would have been miserable and frightening. The insurance money may not sound like much today, but in the Iron Range economy of 1982, it was a lot. I think Larry came up with the idea from Natalie Wood's death in 1981. Larry simply isn't the trained actor that Robert Wagner is.
Also, I noticed in Larry's interview claiming his innocence, he repeatedly adds 'that night' as a qualifier to his claim that he didn't kill his wife. Almost as if it isn't a lie if it happened after midnight.
He killed her and her parents are traitors. He probably found somebody he wanted and couldn't figure out any other way out of it so he let her die. I think he's exactly where he needs to be.
Jeanne Tovrea (toe-vray-ah) lived in a HUGE castle on the outskirts of Tempe, its still there to this day. I just drove by it about an hour ago.
Glad that the Ojibwe Indian Family of Helen Rose Myran’s found her.
Larry Race served 22 years of his life sentence and was released on parole in 2005. He was released with condition of being under probation for 17 years (to expire in 2022).
It was the best "Final Appeal" ever!
That music! 👍🏼
Ed Tovera's son Hap is probably the one who hired Harrod to kill Jeanne. Due to a dispute of the inheritance Jeanne received.
Makes sense.
sdb4884. Follow the money...
Nope he’s not.
@@bauTom Feel free to elaborate ...
Hap is dead now, I doubt the truth will ever officially come to light.
I can't understand how Larry's parents in laws in the first story would actually be willing to believe their son in law, this guy was and is guilty
@Piatequila yeah sadly there are some of us whether young middle aged or old whom are going spiritually blind without even being aware of it to some of us out there whom are very clever at conning others. Its real sad :(
Some ppl are able to convince ppl their innocent and some ppl are gullable.
Piatequila but the daughter believed him too
Lies.
Sorry I'm late to the party, just found this. I wouldn't want to believe that a member of my family killed my daughter either. Also, we need to keep in mind that that's just what they're saying publicly and that was before his conviction. I know a lot of people who detest their kids' spouses, or their adult kids themselves, but keep their mouths shut because they want to see their grandchildren. 🤷
This guy Larry should have been sentenced life without parol. He is guilty as hell.
Larry took life insurance off of her and killed her. Crazy that this was on UM
Not sure why people cheat end the relationship before hurting someone and R.I.P Debbie
@@nannerlchanel5045 weirdo goes both ways
Pretty sure Larry Race did it. Forensics don't lie, all the points brought up by prosecution don't lie, and overall his summary of the events is just way too unbelievable to be genuine.
Yeah, I just hope he shows remorse and admits to what he did. He probably hasn't confessed because he doesn't want his family to disown him.
I don't know. It seems a little unlikely but not beyond reasonable doubt. The prosecution's sequence of events is equally implausible.
Jonathan Turbide get real her family believes he’s innocent when does that ever happen
@@darrendoyle568 You'd be surprised.
@@darrendoyle568 It must be tough for them to accept that he did it, simple as that. Still, it doesn’t make his version of the story plausible.
Larry guilty .. I agree with the jury
He's actually a better liar, than most killers
Larry Race instantly strike me as a smooth talker looking for sympathy. In other words.... I don't believe him. He looks like a well thought out performance... after continued watching, I see that he has a huge amount of attention placed on every second and punctuation mark.
Larry is guilty lol. But that leaking with motor still working and you can see the shore...Lol dude just drive it to the shore.
Who the Hell would cheat with Larry? He looks like a complete dork.
money honey
😂😂😂
Thats what I said.
with women who are dorks lol .. there's someone for everyone
Larry probably had another woman on the side, I don't believe her death was an accident. No way.
Well, Larry calm demeanor had me fooled. I definitely started to believe he didn’t do it. After 22 years it’s between him and God now.
Even if I don't like the stories I can't change to the next episode until the music finishes!!
A violent butcher...who would've thunk it?
This guy was an experienced waterman and he killed his wife. He deliberately took an unsafe craft into freezing waters and sunk it, knowing his wife would never make it in that water. Honestly, shame on Unsolved Mysteries for giving this murderer a platform.
I’m kind of stumped by this one.... No idea if he’s guilty or innocent but I was surprised that her own parents were so adamant that he’s innocent. Very interesting.
Naw, Larry was a great guy who would never kill his wife, all he did was cheat on her non stop! LOL
A cheater does not make you a killer, and yes I speak from my own experience:
@@jessicag4422
Strumpet!!
Whoever received Jeannie's estate and wealth when she was killed is responsible for the hit. It seems like a disgruntled family member who felt entitled to the inheritance when Jeannie's husband passed away.
I think someone said it was Ed’s son who orders the hit on her.
larry should have known it's a jinx to take a woman on a boat. everybody knows that.
Larry did it.