Thank you so much! Means a ton, been working really hard at it, and gonna go back to a lot more traditional content as well as these big videos as well. Appreciate all the support
Ah man I got to use this in class just now. Worked really really well and even had success against some higher belts. im going to keep repping this out. i appreciate the free knowledge, thank you!
Happy to hear it! It’s such an effective system it honestly is so easy to implement immediately, if nothing else you can stifle their open guard by keeping the shield, takes a bit of time to learn to deal with the strong shield but over time gets easier
Holy moly! That's a lot of information packed into one video, but was easy to understand. I'm in this position a lot and never thought that I could use their knee shield against them this way. I liked the live portions of the video and maybe for the future, you can add some narration along with instructional portion. Great stuff Coach!
Yeah I was thinking about just adding that in at the end of the video would be easier to fit in there and not break up the flow of the whole video. Great idea
Roger Gracie been doing and showing this for a looong time. Typically starts by grabbing pants outside of knee shield leg and then same side hand controlling their bottom leg and leaning pressure on knee shield while inching forward to eventually pop over the knee.
Yeah that’s kind of a variation similar to an over under and I have seen him do that before and it’s definitely a similar concept trapping the foot out of play. I have started playing with that as well now too. I think Paulo Miyao does it as well now too. This system reminds me a bit more of Lepri style.
Excellent content Jon. I’ve been working on it and it’s going quite well. It was great to learn it from you in person at your recent seminar in Belfast. Top job as always 👏👏👏
Incredible! I've been playing around with this concept since you told me about it a few weeks ago and its been working really great. Cant wait to work on it even more. Thank you bro!
It is just combining different passes and knowing your grips. Purple and up study your game and develop your way to pass with your prefered grips. Combining far, middle and close distance passing. Combinations is the way to go.
Great vid as always.. And that last lasso thing is actually genius. This is awesome.. the things you show in your videos really fits my game and has helped me alot through the years!
Thanks, will try all of this. (Shoulders flat, not get in rdlr, no lasso) But people often use a stiffarm with their left hand (to push and hold u before they quickly lasso) or use their left hand as a cross collar grip also stiffarming.
I think this is a concept a lot of no gi people use, I haven’t seen it but watching Gordon a bit I see him in the shield a lot but it’s usually on both knees.
@@JonThomasBJJ i first started thinking about using the split squat camp in the gi when i saw this meregali video ruclips.net/video/-GmEu4ckOdk/видео.html . interesting concept as the grips make it allot easier to force him flat. Thanks for the knowledge!
Hell yes. I always thought that half guard/split squat camping was even more powerful in the gi than in nogi. Yet it seems to be used a lot more by nogi guys. The part covering the strong shield/Z guard is great too. Lots of people will switch to this when they feel the pressure of the first position. Very interesting video
Thanks a lot! Yeah it’s such a powerful concept just locks the foot out of play and wears on opponent. Another great concept is toreando from there I should have covered it in this video but forgot to include it. Great clip of Leandro Lo doing it vs Adam Warzinski.
Yeah I should do a whole video on reverse dlr passing and also I should have mentioned more in this video how to prevent it early. You want to make sure to hold the ankle of the trapped leg long enough until you place your shin down.
I believe that a passage that could be complementary to this would be the Rigan trap, for the DLR passing. If you can't force your opponent to put up a knee shield and he continues to insist on a DLR, you can resort to this pass, which is very simple and difficult to defend against.
Shin intense passing with a main focus on pinning legs has pretty much become my meta due to my hand injuries. I've uploaded a video 2 years ago or something if you want to check it out Jon. Hopefully I'll find some time to do some film some more in my limited free time.
Hey I haven’t really watched what they do on this but I have noticed Gordon goes to knee shield a lot and is largely on both knees here and uses it to work in to chest to chest half, so I can imagine there is a lot of overlap in the system and concept
So bottom person wants to go for that extreme knee shield but don't get overextended. Maybe changing to butterfly hook or at the right moment. Attack armbar or omaplada If the top person 's position gets unsecure and you can shuck that arm closest to the knee shield down across your body towards the mat to the other side, the top person doesn't want to be?
Personally I think the best thing bottom player can do is try hard to free that bottom leg and control the far sleeve or maybe if you are super fast try to risk the cut and fast extend the leg and try to lasso
Question: at 12:00 could he shrimp away to his left and making space to thread the right leg back in around your waist line in order to return to closed guard ?
Hey! It would be really hard the top leg is smashed so it can’t even shrimp it would need to be the bottom leg but you can’t really turn out of that without massively opening elbow knee space and giving a pass
Hey buddy it’s actually really hard because to turn back the other way they need to over extend the leg and it gives cut. It’s a lot tougher to turn back out of than it looks
Well it depends on the situation sometimes putting feet on hips can be an easy pass for top player, and in this case it’s very hard to get the foot on hip once you force the shield
I’m the super flexible dude (in the way he is talking, not flexible in other areas) my main guard retention goal is get my feet or knees in and always stay attached in the quicker stronger guys.
Yeah for sure, the one thing I would say is getting your knee in is much less powerful than the foot, if the foot is in the pass is basically dead, the knee spending on context can be dealt with.
@ any advice on keeping the legs and knees safe for those flexible guys. I assume (I’m a 4stripe white belt) I could maybe blow a knee out in my weird position so I try to “push” so I push with my hands in my leg or the other foot, I’m often not pushing but just leaving it in the way while doing other stuff.
Imo you have the best jits content on the internet, everything is well explained and made easy to digest and understand, appreciate it coach
Thank you so much! Means a ton, been working really hard at it, and gonna go back to a lot more traditional content as well as these big videos as well. Appreciate all the support
@@JonThomasBJJ God bless, may you continue to have success!🙏🏽👊🏽
I love it when people who know what they are talking about have the ability to explain it very well! Nice video, appriciate it!
Thanks so much buddy! Really appreciate the support!
Ah man I got to use this in class just now. Worked really really well and even had success against some higher belts. im going to keep repping this out. i appreciate the free knowledge, thank you!
Happy to hear it! It’s such an effective system it honestly is so easy to implement immediately, if nothing else you can stifle their open guard by keeping the shield, takes a bit of time to learn to deal with the strong shield but over time gets easier
Holy moly! That's a lot of information packed into one video, but was easy to understand. I'm in this position a lot and never thought that I could use their knee shield against them this way. I liked the live portions of the video and maybe for the future, you can add some narration along with instructional portion. Great stuff Coach!
Yeah I was thinking about just adding that in at the end of the video would be easier to fit in there and not break up the flow of the whole video. Great idea
Watching this to consolidate my notes after an awesome weekend at the Lake District BJJ camp. Thank you!
Roger Gracie been doing and showing this for a looong time. Typically starts by grabbing pants outside of knee shield leg and then same side hand controlling their bottom leg and leaning pressure on knee shield while inching forward to eventually pop over the knee.
Yeah that’s kind of a variation similar to an over under and I have seen him do that before and it’s definitely a similar concept trapping the foot out of play. I have started playing with that as well now too. I think Paulo Miyao does it as well now too. This system reminds me a bit more of Lepri style.
Excellent content Jon. I’ve been working on it and it’s going quite well. It was great to learn it from you in person at your recent seminar in Belfast. Top job as always 👏👏👏
Incredible! I've been playing around with this concept since you told me about it a few weeks ago and its been working really great. Cant wait to work on it even more. Thank you bro!
So happy to hear it! Also can’t wait to catch up on call soon buddy
It is just combining different passes and knowing your grips. Purple and up study your game and develop your way to pass with your prefered grips. Combining far, middle and close distance passing. Combinations is the way to go.
Great vid as always.. And that last lasso thing is actually genius. This is awesome.. the things you show in your videos really fits my game and has helped me alot through the years!
Yeah it had helped my lasso passing a lot! Happy you liked the video!
That tapping the knee before the knee slice was smooth :o
Yeah I love that quick tap
remembering hearing you talk about this on a podcast recently... glad to have this resource available!
Yeah that was with Matt Kwan right? Happy you heard that one!
What podcast was it?
Thanks, will try all of this. (Shoulders flat, not get in rdlr, no lasso) But people often use a stiffarm with their left hand (to push and hold u before they quickly lasso) or use their left hand as a cross collar grip also stiffarming.
Hey Jon! I got couple of insights from this video! Thank you very much!
No problem happy to help
Brilliant! Love these longer detailed videos.
Thanks so much! Was fun to make!
3:11 "I can't let you get close!" (Chael Sonnen)
lol great reference
would love a general folding pass video
i love knee cuts thanks for the details
Please do a folding pass video - love the content !
Definitely gonna do it!! Been working it all more as well as back step passing.
Such a great channel for Jiu Jitsu 🤙🏿
good stuff! this reminds me of the split squat camping position in no-gi
I think this is a concept a lot of no gi people use, I haven’t seen it but watching Gordon a bit I see him in the shield a lot but it’s usually on both knees.
@@JonThomasBJJ i first started thinking about using the split squat camp in the gi when i saw this meregali video ruclips.net/video/-GmEu4ckOdk/видео.html . interesting concept as the grips make it allot easier to force him flat. Thanks for the knowledge!
Hell yes. I always thought that half guard/split squat camping was even more powerful in the gi than in nogi. Yet it seems to be used a lot more by nogi guys.
The part covering the strong shield/Z guard is great too. Lots of people will switch to this when they feel the pressure of the first position.
Very interesting video
Thanks a lot! Yeah it’s such a powerful concept just locks the foot out of play and wears on opponent. Another great concept is toreando from there I should have covered it in this video but forgot to include it. Great clip of Leandro Lo doing it vs Adam Warzinski.
World class as always 🎉❤
Thanks so much!
I like the term weak shield , ty
No problem happy to help
Folding Pressure video please!
100 percent gonna start working on it soon!
I've been doing this for a while but never saw it explained like this
Yeah me either it was a new concept for me as well I’m sure people have done it before but understanding it this way really changed my passing
Thank you !!
Could be good to add the reverse delariva pass with this !
Yeah I should do a whole video on reverse dlr passing and also I should have mentioned more in this video how to prevent it early. You want to make sure to hold the ankle of the trapped leg long enough until you place your shin down.
@@JonThomasBJJgood tip
can you explain the principle of relaxing in bjj ?
Thank you for the videos
Yes more on folding pressure
Will definitely do it soon!
I believe that a passage that could be complementary to this would be the Rigan trap, for the DLR passing. If you can't force your opponent to put up a knee shield and he continues to insist on a DLR, you can resort to this pass, which is very simple and difficult to defend against.
Never seen the that I need to check it out
Been doing that since I was a white belt. Really think it's worth for you to check
No bs, this guys teaches me more jiu jitsu than my actual "professor" .
Thanks so much buddy! Happy it has helped you so much
that's solid shit. thank you.
Thanks happy you appreciate the effort that went into it!
Shin intense passing with a main focus on pinning legs has pretty much become my meta due to my hand injuries. I've uploaded a video 2 years ago or something if you want to check it out Jon. Hopefully I'll find some time to do some film some more in my limited free time.
Good stuff!
How do you relate this style of passing to what Danaher and Gordon call 'camping'? Seems like the knee shield is under attack these days.
Hey I haven’t really watched what they do on this but I have noticed Gordon goes to knee shield a lot and is largely on both knees here and uses it to work in to chest to chest half, so I can imagine there is a lot of overlap in the system and concept
So bottom person wants to go for that extreme knee shield but don't get overextended. Maybe changing to butterfly hook or at the right moment. Attack armbar or omaplada If the top person 's position gets unsecure and you can shuck that arm closest to the knee shield down across your body towards the mat to the other side, the top person doesn't want to be?
Personally I think the best thing bottom player can do is try hard to free that bottom leg and control the far sleeve or maybe if you are super fast try to risk the cut and fast extend the leg and try to lasso
Question: at 12:00 could he shrimp away to his left and making space to thread the right leg back in around your waist line in order to return to closed guard ?
Hey! It would be really hard the top leg is smashed so it can’t even shrimp it would need to be the bottom leg but you can’t really turn out of that without massively opening elbow knee space and giving a pass
If anyone tried this on me I'd simply stop it
Always the best option!
lol
Break the wrist, walk away
That's what I was thinking. When Jon Thomas tries to capture the knee shield, I will just not let him.
I have to try this! Anything to get past the %$#^ knee shield.
Haha for sure, but also you gotta learn to not stress when you are in it, it’s not a huge problem
Your side-on posture against the strong shield, do you have a name for it? i've been calling it shield HQ
How can we stop this ruthless passing system?
Is this what you were talking about on Matt Kwans podcast?
Yup absolutely
Nice! I'm taking my son to train with him next week
at 9:33 is not a delariva window there?
Hey buddy it’s actually really hard because to turn back the other way they need to over extend the leg and it gives cut. It’s a lot tougher to turn back out of than it looks
he should be getting his feet on your hips in open guard
Well it depends on the situation sometimes putting feet on hips can be an easy pass for top player, and in this case it’s very hard to get the foot on hip once you force the shield
hey, im looking to buy a gi from vital kimonos, do you have a creator code i can use?
Hey I don’t actually I can ask them about getting one
I’m the super flexible dude (in the way he is talking, not flexible in other areas) my main guard retention goal is get my feet or knees in and always stay attached in the quicker stronger guys.
Yeah for sure, the one thing I would say is getting your knee in is much less powerful than the foot, if the foot is in the pass is basically dead, the knee spending on context can be dealt with.
@ any advice on keeping the legs and knees safe for those flexible guys. I assume (I’m a 4stripe white belt) I could maybe blow a knee out in my weird position so I try to “push” so I push with my hands in my leg or the other foot, I’m often not pushing but just leaving it in the way while doing other stuff.
Fold
To me when u we're stretched out you exposed urself to a armbar
I don’t think so not when I have the lapel and they have that leg configuration I have used this on tons of high level people I don’t feel a threat
@ nice ima try it then thanks