Dodge Charger HEMI V8 AWD - History, Why It Got Cancelled, & When Will it Return?
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- Опубликовано: 11 июн 2024
- Today we are looking at the Dodge Charger Hemi AWD. Every so often I get the question: "Why doesn’t Dodge offer a Charger with AWD and a Hemi V8?" Or, "Dodge used to have a Charger R/T AWD, why don’t they anymore? Why on Earth would they cancel it?" Chasing down the answers to those questions inspired this video. There was indeed a Charger R/T with the 5.7L V8 Hemi from 2007 until 2014, but it was cancelled after that and has yet to return. The only AWD models since 2015 have been V6s and Police cars. So, we’ll take a look back at the previous AWD models from 2007-2014 for the Charger R/T, and then look at reasons why the thing was cancelled after that, and why it still hasn’t returned to the market today.
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It’s funny when a model is available. People don’t buy them. When it gets canceled people cry that it gone. 😂
Yeah it’s weird how that happens everytime 😂 no product will stay alive for long if people aren’t buying it, no matter how good it is
It seems to be every car lol
Probably the people who cry are different people than ones who buy. Crying ones are often armchair experts or people who drive old car because "buying new one is not worth it" but at the same time they get angry at car companies cutting models because of not enough customers 😂
People like the availability of the AWD option, even if it wasn't something they'd purchase. I still remember folks being upset with the AWD option being deleted with the arrival of the 2015 models. They weren't happy with the 2015 redesign either, but that's another story.
I wouldn’t be crying except at the time I was younger then 8 years old
Imagine a AWD charger hellcat redeye!
That would be fun but so expensive I wouldn't want to use it. Like awd is cool for performance but if I get awd I want to rip on gravel roads and in snow. So yeah
I would guess 0-60 3 seconds flat or 3.1
Ive got an 07 Jeep SRT8 boosted AWD 6.1 Hemi that can gap a Hellcat
Finally, I can be a *little* less worried during winter storms
aint happenin
You forget that the Magnum also has AWD with the Hemi. I have one sitting in my driveway.
I really wish the Magnum had survived long enough to get the updates in 2009 or even better 2011.
Cuz u a real boss the final boss
I had a 2006 Magnum AWD. Traded it for 2013 Dodge Charger AWD
@@ognp1970 smart man
I have one of the Hemi AWD and if they were offered I would pay the extra for a new one. I love my RT AWD.
I live in northern us. They are fantastic in the snow. The 5.7 gets you out of any deep snow easily. Love mine 120k miles and no mechanical issues
Thats why i went mopar i have a 300c awd hemi, to me thats what set them apart. Plenty of room for ky kids and actually fun in the snow
@@frankhartford5194 agreed i have an awd hemi magnum and i love this thing
An AWD Hellcat Red-eye Charger with 315's all the way around would be unstoppable!!!
I would love to see what that thing could do 🤤
@@MarspeedCars it would SPANK the Germans and the Italians, for sure
Agreed! The upcoming Tesla Model S Plaid + (Tri-Motor AWD) will do 0-60 in
@@waydephilpot3749 BS, a constant 1g acceleration is a 2.7 0-60.
AMEN MOPAR BROTHER!!!
I have an R/T AWD and It's amazing in the snow!
Same i just hate how slow they are
@@Justaeuropeanman that’s very true
@@Justaeuropeanman slow in the snow or in general?
Such an underrated car. People say you can't mod these awd cars but I think I have proven all the naysayers wrong. Pushing 619 awhp and 560 tq in mine. Marspeed did a video of it about a year ago, should check it out!
Can you post the link.. I gave a 14 Charger R/T AWD Max.. I want do a few things to it.. Would to see your video.
@@scottw2991 ruclips.net/video/ohTlefCasnk/видео.html is marspeed link. You can check my channel for more on the build process too
Can you do a 4 wheel burnout on dry pavement? I've managed it a couple times in the wet, but don't have the power for the dry. Will it send enough torque to the front?
@@snek9353 we have a lot of power removed at launch for the longevity of the car. At the beginning of the 2019 race season I spun all for for the first 60 feet at the track.
The AWD Hellcat would hook up great and whip the Camaros and Corvette
I sought out and found a nice AWD R/T. 2013 Max and this thing is absolutely fantastic. It’s launches are amazing and it handled very well.
Same bro love it with the beats stero system it’s a win
The Charger Pursuit (Police) is (near as I can tell) still available as AWD with the 5.7 as optional on the package. Currently shown on the Police vehicle websight.
This, of course, makes me wonder why it is not available to the public at large.
Sale's weren't worth the profit. Not enough sales or average shoppers had no clue they could get AWD. Engeniers said the 6.4 sedans couldn't be AWD because a part or part of the engine is in the way. Wouldn't be cost effective to re-engineer to slap AWD to existing platform for a couple more sales.
I've seen some of these v8 Awd police package... might be worth holding onto will be worth some money later on.
11-14 awd is enabled at 40f or lower.
I'm going to keep my '13 r/t awd till i find a 2018 or newer. For now i've added in a 2016 cluster and unlocked sport mode/srt. I'm going to just slowly update the interior to a '15+ lol
Living in Minnesota we have awd hemi chargers all over
I live in MN too, and have been wanting one of these
Ive got one
Live in the U.P. and have one. Hadn't been in the market for a new car for a while. Had a 4x4 truck, a little car, and a 2005 Grand Prix GXP, 5.3 V8. Was getting a lot of miles on the Pontiac and didn't like the small car so I started looking about. Only then I found some Chargers had AWD. Don't recall ever seeing an add for Charger RTs with that option. Looked at the newer AWD models because we are 72 and getting too old to shovel my way out of being stuck. When I discovered the RT version, I decided to find one. Found a 2014 with relatively low miles. Been very happy with it. Put real snow tires on it too.
Hell yeah mine does work in the snow!
I do love my 2014 Dodge Charger RT AWD. 😁😁
In 2013 when I was shopping for a sedan with power and AWD, I was stuck with European cars, the Taurus SHO and the Charger. I chose the Charger and I’ve been thrilled. The cost of ownership has been lower than an import. And it cost 10 grand less than the competition. Dodge has been all about doing what no one else is doing. They didn’t realize how unique/special this car was. Had they marketed it better, they could have justified the R&D to update it.
I have a 2008 300c 5.7 AWD as a daily and I love it! It's a super reliable car (mines got 150k miles with no major issues), it's still pretty quick by todays standards, and it's actually very very good in the snow.
Next maybe do a “The rise and fall of the Crysler 300” next
Has it fallen, though? Sales were pretty decent last year.
@@bradmurchison2770 Oh, I thought it had fallen
@Scotty secretly loves Chrysler’s I beat a 2010 300 in my 15 buick encore
More like the "The conspiracy to murder the Chrysler 300".
FCA has been killing the 300 on purpose, no advertising, no updates, no special models, and slowly removing options. The only thing keeping Chrysler alive as a badge is the 300, and the only thing keeping it alive is that despite their efforts it still sells.
@@snek9353 OMG, you read my mind. I think Chrysler should bring back the 200 and bring back the Dodge Dart, re-name it, get rid of that HORRIBLE dct transmission , and sell it as a competitor to either the Audi A4 or the BMW 2-Series
The RT AWD Chargers sold quite well in Massachusetts, it seems 90% of the used 5.7 Chargers I see in my area are AWD.
I couldn’t find a single RT AWD anywhere online when I was car shopping last year and I live in upstate NY
I live on the cape and I found one in NC. Was owned by the NC state police. 2015 awd 5.7. Pursuit “street” package. Flew down last Friday and it’s been great up here in the snow this week. Paid little over 10 cash.
The AWD R/T would be a rocket with the proper mods
I sold my RT , I found and AWD Charger 5.7 pro charged and I’m going out next week to pick it up in Texas 💯
I didn't even know this existed 😄👌🏽 greatly appreciate the video. Can't wait for part 2
This was an awesome video. I have a 2010 Charger RT AWD and just like you said, a lot of people don't know that it actually exists. It's fun as hell tbh
Still rolling my 07 AWD with 2160000 miles! Runs pretty strong still and plows through bad weather. It’s a fun twist in the Mopar world imo
2million-160Thousand Miles???? That's about 135K a year, 11K a month, almost 3K a week, 400mi a day,...for about 16yrs straight.
Did you even stop driving it long enough to have the oil and tires changed?
@@markjackson6134 my bad with the zeros! I mean 21600000
I'm looking to get an awd Challenger, I'd love to know how exactly the awd system works! Definitely make a video on that!
I learned quite a bit about the system so I want to make that video for sure! First challenger awd and then that one
I can tell ya, ask your questions.
I have the AWD V6 Challenger. I live in MN where the AWD is very handy and I can't afford a separate winter car. Been thinking about supercharging it to get more HP, but we will see.
I have a 2010 Charger R/T awd, and love it. I bought it brand new for my wife. The awd gives this car better handling than my 4x4 truck. Here in Alaska it gives me piece of mind when my wife is out driving in bad weather.
Brooooo im commenting to say sorry cuz i been following ya vids for over a year and u helped me with so much information mopar wise that i never subscribed to ya channel lol every vid u post just show up so i never thought i never subscribed lmao aayyee i am now part of the team officially and just wanted to say thank you for all u provide.
I think FCA dropped the ball on advertising and marketing. I’d like to find a retired R/T AWD police vehicle and build one.
Goonzquad did that (although wrecked ), then supercharged it after fixing it.
I have one for sale
@ FCA does exist
My 07 300c AWD is probably one if the most well-rounded car I've owned. Relatively nice interior, AWD system that works very well in this ice/snow we see this time of year (especially when coupled with a set of Hakka's), and while it isn't a drag racing machine, is still fairly capable of a healthy mid 5 second 0-60.
The 300C Hemi AWD is a rare beast. I do recall hearing from both owners and Dodge employees that the traction control on the RWD was comparable to AWD. Wonder if that's true with RWD Chargers.
What do you mean by comparable?
The several times I found myself SLIDING in my 2013 300S RWD, which I eventually traded for a 2014 300S AWD,...I SLIDINGLY disagree, as well as my underwear onetime when I found myself sliding by several cars on a tight street. How I didn't hit any,...I'll never know. I shopped for AWD as soon as I made it back home:):):) It took me about 2 months to find a V8 AWD.
Currently drive the 2014 rt awd. Love my car, no issues in 7 years. Only thing that has broken was my sunroof alignment sensor. Living in northern us. We get a lot of snow, but I didn’t like the idea of a suv nor did I need a truck. This car really is the best of both worlds without breaking the bank like the Germans do
Good Video. Impressive car I didn't know existed with Hemi and awd
Loved the video and couldn't have been more relevant to my life atm!
Do you know if the '07 SXT 3.5L V6 has an AWD system similar or identical to its hemi counterpart? Would one theoretically be able to take the hemi from a junked charger of the same year and mesh with the same drivetrain with all that extra power? Already upgrading my suspension and i keep seeing chargers of the generation appearing for parts locally.
Man I’m really enjoying these videos & I’m a Honda guy. I hope he expands these videos to included others cars & makes.
Great video brotha!
2011 R/T AWD with all options except adaptive cruise control. Handles Colorado winters like a champ. I can take almost any car off the line or from a roll. Burn out are pretty impossible as you have to manually drop to first and get really aggressive with the car. Anyone with the 7th Gen body type that spins donuts in powder snow knows that the leading side turn into a giant snowplow with 0% visibility. Thankfully I have leather and a few good towels, so I just roll down my window and let the snow in. I know... sacrilege. - I managed to jump my wife’s Honda Pilot AWD upon hitting a patch of ice and going into a shoulder ditch. I feel that if I were in my Charger, I wouldn’t have had a problem with the ice. Again, in my wife’s car, this time a Honda Pilot AWD that was from the previous year to the one mentioned above, I hit a moose because the car wouldn’t respond to fast handling. The car was totaled. Hence the second Pilot. And again, I feel like the moose would still be alive and I would be considering it a close call if I were in my Charger. I also take a solo road trip from Denver to Las Vegas every non-COVID year. I can drop the back seats, flatten the front passenger and throw down an inflatable mattress and stay in the car overnight in different rest stops. Decent room for someone that weighs 280 & 5,8”. Big guy. Anyway, the car slips into Eco mode for of the drive and it handles mid-May Vegas traffic just fine. I’m going to stay in the 7th Gen as I like the meaty body and grill. No major problems, except for factory recalls. But they have taken less than a day to address. I did replace the breaks with Brembo (?sp). I get a nice aggressive stop. Well, that’s it. My Charger is 10 years old and still an impressive machine.
I too replaced my brakes, but I used Power Stop, and kept the calipers stock, replaced at 33k, the stock rotors warped. Next time I'll upgrade the calipers. Rotors are slotted & drilled.. Stopping power is almost doubled with the stock calipers.
I have a '14 Charger R/T AWD Max.. It eats up the snow, will drive pretty much normal in the winter. I specifically went looking for this vehicle, not expecting to find the Max edition in 2015. I first looked at 2015 300's, then found out they didn't offer it anymore, so I went looking for a 2014, and found the AWD MAX Charger with 16k on it, the original owner had to trade it in for a new truck because his business was needing more trucks.. The happen by, actually looking another R/T AWD at a Chevy dealer and saw this, and the rest is history. I love it.. Will get a tune on it soon to improve performance. Updated fogs to led.. They need to bring it back, so I can buy a new one!
This was a really cool video
They still make it for the pursuit models I seriously need to get an exhaust for my 14 Pursuit V8 AWD
He said that
Discontinued for 2020.
@@benjaminwayneb he just wanted a chance to show of his pos lmao 💩🤡
@@benjaminwayneb Heard the Police Charger itself may be discontinued in 2022 due to stronger Police Durango sales.
@@Foxonian I haven't seen one Durango PPV on the road yet.
Great video. It would be awesome if you did a video on the 2012-2014 Charger SRT8 car and do a full break down of cars produced, colors , variants like the Super Bee etc.
At 8:18. That is my charger at the dealer that I bought it from. Great video!
I have a 2014 Chrysler 300S with the 5.7 Hemi and AWD and love it. It's great in the snow and has plenty of power. I had a RWD Challenger for 10 years before buying the 300 which was great, but I got tired of storing it in the winter and switching out to my winter beater truck. For myself, these AWD V8 300's and Chargers are the best of both worlds for summer and winter driving.
I have a 2012 300c awd,it’s amazing in the snow I just love passing other cars stuck in snow
I been waiting for this video, thanks for the upload marspeed👍
Awesome glad to hear it!
Hoovie in 4 months: I bought the cheapest AWD HEMI Charger in the USA!
"Car wizard shows everything BROKEN on my AWD HEMI Charger"
I've thought for a while now that a AWD Hemi 300 would be Hoovies ideal daily.
Yep. Can see it comin'.
Hoovie isn't a big FCA fan.
When i found out there were canceling the awd RT in 2015, i traded in my 08 awd RT for a 14 awd RT. AWD is just not for snow, its also great for handling. Audi, BMW and others have been doing this for years, awd drive really helps the car corner better and more stable. Just my opinion, but when it comes time for a new car, sadly it will not be a charger, which i love.
Totally agree, even more so the type of system these use is superior to the Audi, BMW, and most others in regard to handling.
I love the look of the old chargers
I have a 13 RT awd and it's an absolute beast in snow. I love it! After I got the mds problem fixed the car, it's been a great vehicle to daily
Mds 🤷🏽♂️
The Charger hemi AWD were the best “all-around” muscle cars on the planet
Ehh close, two problems...
1. The modern Charger isn't a muscle car.
2. The Chrysler 300 is a better car.
I like to think I know quite a bit about car knowledge and had never heard of these until I saw an AWD charger near me and came across this video when looking it up. Can confirm that marketing was poor. Now I really want one! Great video, thanks!
Being from Winnipeg where we have winter conditions 4 to 6 months of the year, would definitely like the AWD option on any Charger or Challenger
I don't live very far south of you in ND and I love my 2010 AWD R/T. My first winter with it and so far haven't needed my truck yet. Always had FWD cars for commuting, never again after owning my charger.
I have to say I am very happy with my 07 300 AWD, it definitely feels different than my 06 Limited and my 05C. I just bought it for my wife for Christmas. I like the fact that it pulls itself right up onto the ramps rather than trying to push them out of the way. Did anyone else notice the 5 speed is still the choice for severe duty AWD police cars? Telling me the NAG1 Mercedes transmission is the more robust of the two, plus the slap stick is nice too.
Marspeed: Your clips of The Awd Charger doing cookies in snow look so similar to me and my buddy doing the same in his grey Sport Edition at night time in a snowy lot, and you have a slide of his exact car. I like the current Charger front and rear treatment, but I think the 11-14 Charger is one of my favorite looking full size muscle sedans ever styled.
I just got a 2013 awd 300s with hemi for work, and it is amazing so far. I also have a 2018 durango rt for the family. I drive them both in pretty extreme cold (-40c) and snow (foot or so),... the performance is remarkably similar, with the durango feeling just slightly more confident. I bet if they do bring back some kind of awd performance charger or 300 it would be some kind of hybrid electric.
Yes please do a video explaining the awd
I have a full script that I made for that one while doing this one so it will be coming!
Thanks for making this video! Maybe dodge will see this and add it to next generation of chargers.
Interesting video!!! 👌😊👍😉
I'm looking forward to that AWD tech video
I remember AWD being an option for the V8 but I just couldn't afford it at the time. Fast forward to present day making more money and having good credit, I'm sad to see that AWD is no longer an option, that's the one thing that has kept me away from the car as where I go a 4x4 truck or AWD car that's more than an inch off the ground is required.
I got a awd hemi charger and it’s a beast in the snow. Just keep an eye on your control arms and sway bar links they tend to go bad
Good looks just got one a couple months ago
What year do you have?
@@chadn.3441 08
I love my 2013 RT AWD Blackout Sport Baby! I always wondered why they canceled the style, and this was the perfect explanation.
If you need more photos in the future of this car, I'll always have my Wraith! (His name)
2 weeks ago I got a 2015 Charger AWD 5.7. Got it from NC state police. And has been great up here in cape cod, ma with snow. It was a “street” pursuit model. But had to find info
Love my awd 2012 rt, comes in good use in New England winters
Yes make the video on how the AWD models work please.
Can somebody answer why they got rid of the heated and cooled cupholders I love those when I have my 2011 charger RT
And why they got rid of one of the groceries hooks in the trunk in 2021 (or between 2019-21)?
Reminds me to start watching for old highway patrol awd chargers... thanks for pointing it out ... want something with some more hrsprs and a little more room than my Volvo S60R.
Listening to this as I drive my 2017 dodge charger pursuit with awd lol 😁
I bought the 13 rt awd a few months ago and I love it
I have a 2011 R/T AWD max and I wouldn’t trade it for the world! It’s saved my life twice! I have never had a traction issue and it’s an absolute blast in an empty ice covered parking lot!
Where did you get the clip of black rt awd with wisconisin plates? Looks and sounds just like mine.
I’m looking into getting one of these but they are so hard to find with low mileage
I had a 2011 R/T AWD and it was amazing
Love my 2010 R/T AWD. I live up north and I have a truck as well but nothing beats the look on a jeep owners face when you can pull on them from a red light in the slush and snow in what they presume is a RWD sedan.
this video was perfect, looking at a AWD hemi from 07 with 124k miles on it and it’s mint still. absolutely sold on this car
I'm not a Mopar fan, but the V8 AWD is awesome. That'd be worth a look for me.
2:35 Yes I’m interested in a video about the different awd systems and how they worked
Love the AWD I have so much, it's made me pause on replacing it since I can't get a newer one.
I didn't even know these existed till about 5 months ago. Now I want one.
You don't even need an AWD model for winter conditions; just offer a rear differential upgrade package for RWD models with a limited-slip/torsion diff .
the only reason the vehicle cant maneuver in slow is that is has an open differential; so once one wheel spins, thats it.
As a Minnesotan who uses a charger year round, AWD is must. I’ve looked for eight years and have seen literally ONE R/T AWD for sale in that time(had almost 150,000 miles on it, so nah). I finally had to give in a buy a GT AWD last week.
Great video. I think small families under 5 people that live in hillsides or snowy terrains would benefit from a charger or chrysler awd sedans. I like them but I live in a flat sea level valley where most of the year it's dry, so a awd sedan wouldn't benefit me much. And yes I have been wanting a suv more and more over the years. I can understand their growing popularity.
I'm thinking of getting a 2015+ charger police package. Basically the only way to get a hemi with awd. I also want to swap front and rear bumpers to make it look like a scat pack.
Hello, please what exhaust had this black Charger? It was awsome sound. Thank you :)
I have a 2015 5.7 Pursuit AWD love it
Around here in Michigan you see a bunch of AWD v6s but I've seen a few of the v8 ones
I would love a video on how the awd system works and I would definitely love an AWD Scat Pack!
392 Cubes of Hemi power + AWD capability bc I live in a land of snow = a very happy customer [me] 😂
I got a14 charger r/t awd and love it and I pulled out the relay for the awd and tried to doing a burnout it started then stopped then started again idk why
The 2021 police version also canceled the v8 AWD option only v6 for AWD and only v8 on rwd.
5 years ago I helped a friend install a magnussen SC on his 2011' Awd RT Charger and that thing could launch like a catapult. SO fun spanking just about anything to 100mph.
Could you do a video on the 90s Lincoln town car
Keep doing awd videos!!
POLICE Chargers were available with 5.7 and allweel drive until 2019.,
They are still available.
@@reggmh In Canada 2019 was the the last year. We weren't able to order 2020's.
@@benjaminwayneb They discontinued them this year, something about the updated drivetrain cant fit the AWD and the Hemi
@@rb3tactical145 Mercedes 6 speed no longer available.
I love my charger rt all wheel drive its a 2007 but man is it fun as hell
Great video, I have a 2014 RT Max,such a capable car. Please check into the All week drive system, thanks
I just picked up an AWD RT max last month. I wanted a daily winter driver with a hemi. And suvs are too top heavy for me when it’s nice out. I didn’t buy it new, because I got a challenger instead. But any muscle car “feeling” guy hates driving a winter beater. Nothing worse than the “I miss my v8”. I do agree with the transmission change being an issue with the awd system and room. Hence the 5 speed still in the police package. I suggest to anyone who wants one, don’t wait too much longer. The mileage is going up and so are the prices. Took me a few months to find one.
That’s why got the v6 for 2020. I need an awd. Can’t wait for them to bring back the v8 awd.
07 SXT owner! Sitting at 40k so the car was practically new when i purchased it! I was almost disappointed as a previous owner of old volvos, but i very quickly learned how quirky and as reliable as you treat them type of cars. I'm a mechanical sadist and empathize with cars like I do natural locomotion (i would treat a horse like i wanted it to outlive me if this was 1821, not 2021.)
Anyone here own one? Do you like them? I live in NY and this weather has saved my life already from a collision on 9w (3 ft from a 250ft cliff for those who are from the rest of the world)
I loved my volvos, but there is a reason i always took the train in winter months
Do the AWD systems for charger/challenger, Durango and journey please !!
My son recently bought a 2016 AWD 5.7 V8, ex-highway patrol. Awesome in the snow. And during the driver's ed class he had to take recently when he got his first speeding ticket, the state patrolman noted the Charger & said it is the best vehicle in the snow bar none, including SUVs. Even with 154k miles, the Charger still has much energy.
Nice I have the exact some car as the thumb nail hemi awd 2013 red
Do you think awd will come with the next gen if they do a remodel?
Getting a 6.1 here real soon. I just cant bring myself to fork out extra for a hellcat. Did find one with high mileage so kinda debating. But am looking at a 6.1 procharged charger and a 13 awd charger. Not sure which id prefer just yet. The awd is tempting to build upon.
I had a 2008 hemi awd Magnum rt....it was awesome, just need more gears on the highway. Way cooler than an outback.
Last night here in upstate SC bunch of snow started coming down. We were expecting flurries.
Man it was literally the end of the world. Dozens of cars stranded and trucks couldn't get friction. And the rolling hill terrain didnt hell.
I saw a car in such a deep ditch the rear bumper was the only thing level with the road.
Meanwhile I'm giddy that my 4wd 4runner is doing something as I went to go save my mother.
4wd / AWD isnt always needed but so helpful when ya need it.