The Shadowcast #15 - THE SILENT SEVEN with WILL MURRAY (Full Interview)
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- Опубликовано: 11 дек 2021
- The Shadowcast is joined by venerated pulp historian WILL MURRAY, author of the recent Shadow bookumentary 'Master of Mystery: The Rise of The Shadow'. Then, we continue our reviews of classic pulps when The Shadow tackles a secret society of prominent criminal conspirators in THE SILENT SEVEN!
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Agent of the shadow reporting for duty, sir.
Where I grew up (not an American) pulp's been scorned and hardly viewed as part of literature. Many times I was thought a dummy by people for enjoying these kind of stories and the heroes, especially Shadow and Conan.
That's why I love conversations like this. It's rare for me to hear people with so much knowledge and enthusiasm for the pulp genre and Shadow talk.
Thanks for the effort and time you put on Shadowcast, dude.
On point. But Raz0r Shadow audiobook reading when? I would listen to all several hundred of them. I'd subscribe to the premium site for this.
I mean I'm poor but I'd definately was an epic listen. your two on your channel are so well done, I listen to them as I drift off to sleep. they are just so immersive. and the laugh is the best, it's actually like some of the originals
Holy shit, you asked my question about “modernizing” the Shadow. I do agree with Will how it requires a special touch to modernize a character, like The Shadow, for a modern audience and we can all point to the James Paterson novel as a textbook example of how not to do it. Matt Wagner’s work are a good example of how to modernize him, as far as recent Shadow offerings go.
Oh Razörfist blessing us with more gun toting action via the dark avenger!!! Merry Christmas and such! God Speed.
NICE Peter Lorre introduction Razor! Lorre was a great character actor. Keep up the great work and thank you.
Yeah Lorre was very good. M is a great movie.
The Shadowcast but it's double length and features a prominent guest? Talk about an early Christmas present. Godspeed, Razor! And thank you to Mr. Murray for the interview!
Id be down for Razor Reads Pulps more often. More Shadow Stories, and maybe some Doc Savage.
Perfect timing. A video to watch while I eat lunch. God fucking speed, Razorfist!
For a film adaptation I would choose "Crime, Insured" because stories of criminal masterminds attempting to get under the skin of heroes, uncover their secrets and subvert their "routine" seem to captivate and resonate well with audiences.
I too would start with an introduction, maybe the first 15-20 minutes or so refreshing the audience on who The Shadow is and establishing that he's been operating for some years now, viewed through the eyes of Harry Vincent or Margo Lane, before the criminal attempts to turn his world upside down.
The concept of "crime insurance" or similar isn't done very often in mainstream entertainment either, which would further give this film a unique identity. (The last time I remember anything similar in the mainstream was on the "Gotham" TV show when Penguin became mayor and was issuing "crime licenses")
I would perhaps bring in Shiwan Khan or another notable villain at the end to tease the next film as well, (which would be an adaptation of one of their major stories) after referencing them a few times during this film, maybe even tying them to the plot and setting them up as a greater threat.
And of course it would be set in period, that's not even up for discussion.
I just discovered your "Reject Modernity. Embrace Pulp Heroism" video the other day and have since binged watched the majority of your videos concerning the topic, as well as many others. I just wanted to say "Thank you" from the bottom of my heart for all the time and hard work you've poured into these subjects, and for vocalizing what I've been unable to for years. And for adding to my growing list of material to watch, read, and listen to.
It's because of you that I'm listening to "The Shadow" radio dramas with my grandmother (who is giddy to be listening to the radio shows of her childhood), and why I'm diving deeper into pulp than I already was. You also reminded me of The Rocketeer and Sojourn, and I plan on getting their collections soon. I'm a writer who enjoys more classic media than modern, and I also have values, morals, and ideas that don't lineup with mainstream media. Thank you for giving me hope that I'll find my audience. I'm still just a fanfiction writer, but I hope to become a published author just like yourself in the near future. God bless, and have a wonderful day.
This is an exceptional podcast which needs more episodes. I have already listened through what's available several times over.
You are a host who gives me hope. I spent years assuming that I was alone in being a fan of the pulps and especially The Shadow. I believed that I would be forever alone on a doomed sea of garbage culture, clinging desperately to the life-raft that is the precious media of the past. It is very good and extremely comforting to know that we are many and we all seem to give a considerable damn.
Damn I need to stock up Anthracite! #bluecoal
My god! I've never thought about it that way! In that the 2 dimensional characters like the punisher are suppose to be like that because someone made them that way! Because there not really characters as much as vessels for an idea and the reader to understand! No wonder these characters are timeless! It's because the ideas that manifested them are prevalent in society forever!
Will Murray, from Doc Savage to Squirrel Girl, this man is a cool dude. Why the Hell are we in a reality where he isn't he given the rights to do more Doc Savage and The Shadow?
Can't wait to sit down and listen to this!
Razorfist, I have just read a sample chapter of your book, The Long Moonlight, Its got me gripped to the story, I fucking love it, I will be buying your book, I know this comment isn't about The Shadow but damn good work on The Shadowcast and all pulp video content - Godspeed
Many thanks! Can't wait until we finally get the artwork sorted out for the second one!
Fantastic stuff!! Please keep it up!!
This was a great interview. Some of what Murray said I've heard from other places, but a lot it was fresh information for me. The clarity on his new book about the Shadow was especially helpful. Peter Lorre was an unexpected treat! Also, one of you comments about the Gibson biography makes me wonder if you will ever do a review video for it?
I actually did review it, in the previous episode!
@@TheShadowcast Dolt! This is what happens you try to sneak in episode son your lunch break. Thanks, I'll check it out!
One of the best podcast interviews I've ever heard. Will is a great speaker and an incredible pulp writer. He was kind and generous enough to read my unpublished pulp novel about the pulps, The Enigma Club, and provide me with a wonderful blurb. Thanks again to Will, and thank you for producing such a great podcast!
You consistently pronounce my name correctly. Well done Razor! This was a great interview.
I received “ Master of Mystery” for Christmas, read it, and then I saw this. Perfect. Thank you Razor. Best wishes to you from a Shadow Fan of more than 50 years
Super cool. I had to listen to it twice to get all the info, lol. Was awesome 👌 , same time next year ?
Loving the new intro
Don't agree with your politics but thanks for reviving, renewing, and introducing interest to both Battletech and The Shadow to thousands.
Easily my favourite episode yet! I especially enjoyed the segment with The Spider
Will Murray echoes my thoughts exactly about the new Patterson book trashing the pulps.
Sweet! Love these videos so much, man! God bless you, Razor, and merry Christmas!
Thank you, sir. Hope you're having a great one.
Thanks for another great episode and a wonderful interview with Will Murray. The amount of new information I keep learning about The Shadow just never ends with your podcast.
I have a quick story to share. I was fortunate enough to get to go to the "special edition" Comic-Con over Thanksgiving weekend and I thought I would wear my "The Shadow Knows" T-shirt. I got more positive comments wearing that shirt than any other T-shirt I wore to any convention. Every comment from "that is badass" to "did you get it here at the convention?" But the best part was someone asked me if I knew anything about the new Shadow book by James Patterson. I said that I have it under the best authority (being The ShadowCast) that the book is terrible.
Coffee brewed, a model to build, shadowcast on, bliss, thank you very much mate👍
Nice. What kind of model did you build?
@@abrahemsamander3967 At-St for my sons new room 🙂👍
Regarding the Isle of Doubt cover, I think it was supposed to be the cover for 'The Road of Crime', published 2 months later. Here's an excerpt from The Road of Crime:
'Burke had been deputed to keep track of Carma Wellerton. He learned that she was living under the name of Carma Urstead, and that she was still in New York.
Communication ended with his contact agent, The Shadow performed a new action. His hands produced a large map and spread it on the table. The fingers placed tiny pins upon towns marked there - the places where small bank robberies had been attempted.'
Excellent interview with Will Murray. 👍
Finally.. a podcast for real men.
I loved the Sinister Shadow. I haven't read the Empire of Doom but I have it on my kindle library, may as well start now.
These come out not often enough ...!
'The Radio Detectives' on BBC Radio 4 Extra had an episode on The Shadow last week. It's only half an hour long so doesn't go too deep but it might be of interest to those looking for an overview. I believe people outside the UK should be able to listen without an account, I know I can when I set my VPN to the USA.
Awesome going to watch this while I eat dinner razor thanks for all the great shadow content
Love istening to this video. Godspeed!
Just now working my way towards this episode, and man, I gotta hand it to you. Great stuff here. Very informative, very awesome.
We've talked about this. Quit bringing up books I'm going to want to read. Aw forget it. You could sell the phone book as fantastic literature (or at least better than the James Paterson waste of paper.) I'll add these to the pile with fresh Battletech books and TMNT comics.
Finished Voodoo Trail and Death's Harlequin with foreword by Mr Dennis O'Neill. Enjoyed it and hopefully becomes one of or the next installment of the Shadowcast. Wondered if you ever read his book on magic by Walter B Gibson? Considering taking a look at it. Godspeed.
Shangrala? Xanadu! Your guest is repeating Joseph Cotton in Citizen Kane.
Shangri La is a fictional idyllic place in central Asia; Xanadu is a poetic spelling of Shangdu, the capital of Kublai Khan empire described as an idyllic place. Is no big deal to mix up the names when both refer to fictional places in the mountains of central Asia.
Duende is a word in Spanish that means "Goblin". In Spider-Man the Green Goblin is Duende Verde.
Great episode with you and Mr Murray and will have to do some research and obtain his book on the subject of The Shadow. My question to you now since he had a peak of popularity unparalleled in his heyday in his native U.S, what was his influence in other countries around the world? A Bande Dessinee of the Shadow would be such a great recreation of the Shadow like they did with the three (hopefully four) Elric books. Well done on the interview and hope you get a chance for more Shadow writer episodes in the future. Godspeed.
Man. Wish I could complete the Shi Wan Khan stories without paying price scalpers.
man ive just started listerning to the audio books that you hve up on the Shadow and my god man they are so good
Always good to see another Shadowcast! And thanks for mentioning The Executioner, Razor! Read many of those when I was young in the early 90’s.
Great Stuff!
Amazing episode, good thing I waited till the end, otherwise I would've kinda spoiled The silent seven with my eager comment. Great Shadow story indeed. Btw, duende is spanish for elf (like Santa's, not Tolkien), I googled Duende magazine and hipster/sjw publications came up. Yikes. Is like when you look for the Shadow images and those cartoon characters that autistic people obsess with come up.
Does anyone k ow if The Shadow had a winter or Christmas setting in any of Gibson's novels? "Death on Ice" I own, but are there others?
Dam love it
i know that Batman is based on the Shadow but i got to say that i think the Shadow i way more frightening in the books
Oh wait? This guy co created squirrel girl? With Steve Ditko of all people? Huh. Neat. He seems like a cool dude.
cool
A Shadow/Doc Savage crossover should be called "Chad and Chadder"
Who knows… what evil lurks in the hearts of men?