The Shadowcast #6 - 'THE SHADOW' (DC Comics, 1973) & A Possible TV Series?
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- In episode 6 of The Shadowcast, we review the legendary Denny O'Neill & Mike Kaluta DC Comics Shadow series form 1973... and discuss what the new Doc Savage TV Series may mean for The Dark Avenger!
wtf I just now am finding out about Razorfist's Shadow side-channel? Instant subscribe.
Nice to find this channel. I went to a couple of Pulp Cons back in the day. Saw Steranko at one of them.
I'll admit I'm unfamiliar with Doc Savage but a tv show of a buff adventurer exploring the world might be a hard sell to this supes heavy industry. Hope I'm wrong. Would you do a Enter Doc Savage for the uninitiated like me in the future? Keep up the good work.
Someone suggested on 'THE SHADOW KNOWS!' Facebook group that Adrian Brody would be great as The Shadow. I haven't seen him in anything, but he certainly looks the part.
Just because he has a massive schnoz.
@@vcdonovan5943 Gibson would have termed it "an aquiline profile."
I just hope they make a mobsmen on the spot episode. As for Doc Savage, I hope they get someone other than the Rock to play Doc.
I hope they get someone who can pass as a character, not a caricature. Dwayne Johnson is a plastic doll who can't act for $h!t. Heck even Arnie would be a better fit for the part. And I'm taking today Arnie, not even 1980s Arnie.
Thank you for another great podcast. I was fortunate enough to find all 12 issues at various comic shops during the mid-90's and eventually, I got Denny O'Neil to sign issue #1 years later at Comic-con.
As for casting The Shadow for a new movie or TV show, I'd love to see Jim Caviezel or Kyle Chandler tackle it.
If you ever find the time on your other channel, a video on The Avenger would be amazing. Like your Solomon Kane or Shadow videos I've always wanted to get into him. A video on pulp characters in general would be very cool honestly.
Nobody has drawn The Shadow better than Michael Kaluta. When I listen to the radio show or read one of the pulps, Kaluta's drawing of The Shadow is how he's pictured in my mind.
The reason Condé Nast made very little money from the Reprints, other than sharing it with Walter Gibson's estate, was because Condé Nast didn't distribute the reprints to regular stores. They were pretty much impossible to find over here in the UK. I've had to resort to eBay mostly to find what I can and at good prices.
I had never heard of the Art Nouveau movement! But those are my favorite artists, add Neal Adams.🗿
Bernie's Frankenstein is gorgeous.
Do you think that they'll green light more shadow pulp reprints once whatever they're doing here with the Shadow comes to fruition?
More on you talking about comics is golden
These are such a joy and so needed right now. You bring out such amazing details and your devotion to it shows. I am curious as to what you make of the mythology of the Temple of the cobras and so forth in the Shadow.
23:41 There are Frazetta's paintings from the 60's with that exact action.
If it was still the early nineties, I would have picked Bob Peck for the part of The Shadow. Right now, would go with Adam Driver
I hadn't thought of Adam Driver. He would be great.
If anyone wishes to have access to the 70’s comics - or several of the Shadow’s other runs - they’re all on the Internet Archive.
Adrian Brody. Basically get him to work out like he did for Predators, throw him in a scarf and slouch hat.
He will be a good fit for the character.
I've thought that for years.
Just because he has a big beak (that isn't in the correct shape, or even straight), doesn't mean he's good for the part. Stern eyes and strong cheek bones are need too. Also his tough voice was pretty goofy. And what would be the point of him putting muscle for a character that always wears a suit and a cloak? Not that he looked significantly muscular in that garbage predator movie, but still pointless. And f hollywood actors ruining good characters.
You doing a deardevil podcast would rock
using the ninja trope for an explanation on the shadows skills made sense in the era it was presented, many readers of this 12 issue series may not have known of his radio powers or pulp intelligent agent skills so those just being introduced to the character his skills would make sense. in the avenger cross over Kahn orders his men to fire I believe 5 feet to the left of the image they see it was as if the shadow could project an image of himself to misdirect his foes.
*_Sam Witwer_* would be a SOLID pick for The Shadow/Lamont/Kent. He's got the voice, he's got the look, he's got the _respect_ for source material like this (I don't know if he knows much about the Shadow, but he has repect for classic storytelling and pulp-inspired material.) As long as he is given the director's note that The Shadow isn't about brooding and pathos and _EmOtIoN_ and kept on that path of just raw badassery and _enjoyment_ of bringing justice, he should be fine.
He could totally pull off the White-Hat/Black-Hat 'Evil unto Evil-doers' where he arguabley does 'bad things' but you never doubt him as a _HERO_ bringing Justice.
*_Ben Feldman_* is another guy I would want to see get a shot at playing in this world too. He might be bit too _pretty_ and jovial to be The Shadow himself, but I could picture him as a great fit for one of The Shadow's agents, like Harry Vincent.
Adam Driver is the reasonable IT choice for Lamont with how hot he is in Hollywood the past year, his typically more indy choices of productions, and _his _*_nose._*_ let's be honest._
Sam Witwer is my number one pick now I found out he played the voice of Darth Maul in Star Wars Clone Wars and Rebels. Hearing that voice coming from underneath the wide hat brim is something I really want to see now
If I remember correctly, all of the Wild, Wild, West episode titles also began with , “Night of...”.
If Adam Driver were older, he'd make a good Lamont Cranston. He's certainly got the schnoz and can do a serviceable Shadow voice.
I think he would make a good shadow.
No mention of the Shadow appearance in Batman #253? Also, I think it’s worth mentioning that Ninja were largely unknown to American audiences in 1973.
I already discussed that appearance in a prior video.
Director and writer: Steven Zaillian. "The Night Of" wasn't a great series but I loved the look of the show. He wrote the screenplays for Hannibal, the Girl With the Dragon Tattoo and worked with Ridley Scott on American Gangster.
Holy Shit I got the first couple issues of these, love them!
I can’t wait until we find out Ruby Rose quit Batwoman to star in a Netflix adaptation of the Si Spurrier Shadow series
This is why war, this is why famine, this is why bad. This is why bad.
I always wanted to hear Michael Wyncott as The Shadow. I loved his voice of Death in Darksiders 2, people say he was either too expensive or too old for his cameo in Darksiders 3 but for those of us who remember him from Westworld, I think he still got it. Mind you I said a voice of the Shadow and not THE Shadow since the role of Lamont Cranston could go to another actor, Adrien Brody.
The nose, the height and the acting track record could help the show itself to have some legitimacy and with Wyncott as the Shadow, it would dignify the production to be taken seriously.
As for how the show should be carried on, I think it should be focused on the agents and their relationship to the Shadow, I've read too many Dynamite comics where they try to have his own voice narrate the whole thing and in my view, it doesn't work. The Shadow must be kept as an enigma and yes, Cranston can be part of it, but I wish the show would focus more on Harry Vincent and Clyde Burke to show how the streets of New York were in those times. Valorie Curry as Margo Lane, her classical beauty and her moxie are good attributes to bring to the character.
I don't mind casting new people for the roles of the agents.
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I actually like the agents of the Shadow from the O'Neill era, in fact, I like that Harry Vincent, he could be an evolution of the character. After trying to commit suicide and finding a new purpose with The Shadow, "he don't care 'bout no hoes no more" and becomes a fully committed agent to the cause of the dark avenger. Every one of these issues was fun in its own way.
I would really like you to interview more people that worked in the Shadow, like Uslan, Dennis Calero, Aaron Campbell etc. There were some oneshots that were really interesting like Veterans of a Foreign War by Scott Beatty and Ronan Cliquet, the Agents of the Shadow by Michael Moreci and Anthony Marquez that surprises me why they weren't given full series and they agreed giving Spurrier a full series that to this day I refuse to read.
Couldn't place where I had heard of Frank Robbins before, looked it up and he was the artist for the long-running excellent(ly drawn) strip Johnny Hazard. I never knew he did Shadow work. I love his art myself, but I can understand why going from Kaluta to him would be jarring.
Great video.
Honestly I think this might fall under the category of "be careful what you wish for." After seeing the race-swapping, gender-bending way in which beloved IPs of the past have been bastardized by Hollywood in the past 10 years I'm not sure I want them raping The Shadow. The latest Bond film is an apostasy, Indiana Jones has been utterly ruined, Thor is set to take a backseat to his girlfriend, etcetera ad nauseum.
Peter Wingfield would make a good Shadow. Has the right look, and was great in the Highlander TV series.
Oh Razor I thought of an idea for a future video if you like to hear it. Would you do a video on Judex? He was considered an inspiration on the Shadow due to his look and having his own squad of ex criminals. Also thoughts on Dennis Lynds work on the Shadow? Godspeed.
For a lot of reasons, Judex can't have been the inspiration for The Shadow:
-He wasn't translated into English until the '60s
-His serials received extremely limited US play, and there's no record of them playing in New York City (where Walter Gibson lived).
-He didn't use two-fisted automatics
-The tone of Judex is completely different, with a lighthearted appeal that contrasts with The Shadow's mysterioso pulp atmosphere.
But it would be an interesting topic, for sure. When The Shadow newspaper strip was printed in France, they even changed the name to Judex (much to the confusion of French readers)
@@TheShadowcast Thanks for the info dude. Looking forward for more Shadow in the future
Very sad. But an opportunity.
Adrian Brody as a possible shadow actor perhaps? He’s got the nose for it.
About the right age, too. And a damn fine actor. I could see it working.
Although it's worth mentioning that I don't think The Shadow's face should even been seen all that much. At least in the first film. I'm iffy on Lamont Cranston even being in it.
The Shadowcast true. You’d definitely want more mystery behind the shadow. That’s why I think it should go sans any hint of origins story as well.
The Shadowcast maybe Harry Vincent could be a prominent character and we mostly see the shadow through his eyes?
The Shadowcast I think it should be kinda like that graphic novel “Joker” by Brian Azzarello where Batman never actually shows up or is even mentioned, but constantly felt in the background until his inevitable reveal in the end. Very much a shadow conceit that dc swiped, and I think would work much better in a shadow story.
would love to get a link to those shadowcast wallpapers so I can add them to my pcs background
Can you do a video on the radio series and maybe like a top 10 favorites or yours?
We've already covered several episodes of the radio show, but sure! That sounds like a good idea!
Oh man, the fact that the Helfer/Sienkiewicz run got a reprint and yet neither the O'Neil/Kaluta run nor The Shadow Strikes! did is an absolute crime against the character, really. Not just because I like the latter two and dislike the former, but also because both O'Neil/Kaluta and The Shadow Strikes! are way better representative of what Shadow is all about.
On the TV series news - I'm cautiously optimistic. You never know how these turn out, but if there is to be an actual wave of Shadow products (which pulling the comic and pulp rights suggests), there's bound to be good stuff in there somewhere. And it seems like Conde Nast is not fussing about this time around - the Sanctum reprints started out all the way back in 2006 and there were rumors of a new Shadow movie thing throughout all these years yet they only now pulled the plug on the whole reprint thing, which indicates that whatever they got's either already in the oven or at least that they are taking this one way more seriously than before, which is a good thing in my book.
Razör, while raiding my (soon to be closed) comic shop I mistakenly picked up issues 3 & 4 of the Dynamite/Si Spurrier Shadow series and have never been more disappointed. Not sure if I should donate them of drop em in a shredder. If you could stomach reading them I’d love to hear a full takedown of the series and/or the author at some point in the future.
Just discovered this channel! Incredible content. Do you think the Shadow will enter the public domain any time soon?
Edit: I'd love to see you cover some other Shadow stories from the Pulp books! Specifically The Prince of Evil.
Some of the very first Shadow stories will enter Public Domain in a few years. But because The Shadow was published continuously from 1931 until 1949? And purchased by Condé Nast in 1959? It will be a LONG while before the character will be in the PD completely.
@@TheShadowcast Oh I see. Yes this makes sense. So this means that if a studio wanted to make a true-to-form Shadow film within the next couple of years, they could just adapt the Living Shadow?
@@writersroom3499 They could, but presumably, there would be some kind of stricture on using The Shadow trademarks. Like, The Shadow logo wouldn't be usable. And possibly not even the title 'The Shadow'. You could feature the character, but not use any registered trademarks.
The Shadowcast Right that makes sense. Well thank you! Maybe they could work around it and call it “The Living Shadow”, or something.
Bronson should play The Shadow
I would probably like Adam Driver as the Shadow...mostly for the nose. Mel Gibson for director.
I liked Frank Robbins cartoony take on the Shadow. I also prefer Gary Gianni to Kaluta.
Alright, it's a stretch, but hear me out...
Adam Driver.
He's got the beak, right?
He's a decent actor as well.
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A Shadow series on literally any major streaming service will be a complete fail. IF it doesn't go full woketard sojus right off (Picard, Witcher, etc.), if it's on Netflix it won't live past its second season, because every Netflix show from an acquired property generally has a strong first season but an abysmal second season and subsequent cancellation.
At best we can expect one good season on Netflix. But the chances of it being any good at all are slim.
This is my fear exactly. Plus depending upon how shoestring the budget is, it's unlikely they would keep him in the 1930s because the pricetag for each episode would explode. Which means a modern day Shadow and I hate "modern day" Shadow iterations.
The Rock and Shane Black? Hard pass on that... I wouldn't trust anybody involved in entertainment today with a Shadow adaptation. 11:39 superman is also a rip-off of the scifi novel Gladiator.
Benedict Cumberbatch might make a good Shadow. I'm not sure about directors.
I guess the tv adaptation never came to fruition?
Stupid thought, might get me some shit. But if he could pull it off. Maybe Adrian Brodie to star. you can shit on me if you want
He looks the part, and he's about the right age as well
If it’s Sony I am DEEPLY worried that they will push hard to make whatever we get Woke as hell.
>'Doc Savage' adaptation
Awesome!!!
>written by Shane Black
Nooooooooooo thank you!!!
Also, The Boys was fucking garbage.
I hope we can get the old shadow novels as ebooks someday
I'm in a minority but I liked Robbins work on The Shadow.