I don't know if you see this comment, I think Nolan at a mid end is moon level because Mark and Allens clash was able to level the moon, and also Viltrum was stated to be 2x bigger than earth and has a higher gravity. And for speed Nolan found the nearest solar system when flying which was 4.24 light years from earth. A calc puts this feat at around 221x faster than light.
Naruto is factually not even planet level. Not even close. Nolan is SIGNIFICANTLY stronger and numerous times faster than Naruto. Naruto gets walked. Without much effort.
It already did, right? Mark used it at the end of season 1 and beat him with it. It was the moment when mark said: “I would have had you dad”. That hurt more than any rasenshuriken imho
I am so happy the power scaling community is starting to realize star level scaling is the most consistent for naruto. A lot of people used to just deny it cause “he’s a ninja” with no counter points
@@gigawarman12 I wouldn’t agree with that. Ninja tactics always are there. From naruto clone tricking people till this day. I mean that’s how he beat pain. Or even naruto and sasuke doing the shrunken trick against momoshiki. In Boruto that’s actually a huge theme. There just really strong ninjas lol. We just follow the series through the eyes a hyperactive child
I've been arguing this about Toriyama in Dragonball, but people always say, "If he said it then it's fact" I've countered "No, he has to write it into the story to show it to make it true.
I think a big part of what colors people’s perception of a character’s powers outside their own world is tone. The reality is that Invincible is just way gorier than most super hero stuff and more shocking than Naruto so people have this perception that Nolan just rips anyone else to shreds
@@marcierex4547 it would be SO funny to see Vegeta like backhand Omni Man once and just throw up after seeing how detailed Nolan’s head exploding would be
There is a good reason for thinking so buddy the scaling between naruto and invincible is far apart .narutos scaling is more realistic compared to invincible comics
The Invincible Comics are so wildly inconsistent that the fight can go any number of ways depending on how you see it, it can go from Nolan holding up an infinite universe (outlier) to Nolan needing three other people around his own power level to destroy a planet (Outlier)
@@danielendless He doesn't do that himself. He fights a character in a (non-canon) crossover that does, Suprema. Even though they're both made by Image comics, that crossover is considered non-canon.
@@danielendlessmark also scales to dinosaurus both seem to be equal dinosaurus who managed to kill omnipotus who states he can devour worlds and realities which if he’s not capping that’s universal tier at peak low ball multi galaxy which would still make 0 sense and have to be a bluff because nobody else in the show not even thragg who’s strong enough to beat all 3 of em scales even close to solar or even star🗿
@@YungBZ theres a big problem there tho cause that was before the planet busting feat wasn't it? plus I don't believe omnipotus's durability stays the same when he has less energy
omni needing help to destroy a planet isnt an outlier. its literally what happens in his own original story. the only way to get him stronger than that is by applying outside scaling metas, like feats from the animated version, or feats from crossovers, which is disingenuous at best. his most consistent scaling should only be what happens in his original comics.
what about it doesn't make sense? Kaguya has star level attack potency and other characters(like Toneri) are called stronger , Naruto then shows he is stronger than those other characters.
I think people underrate Naruto's speed as well when he first got his KCM the first thing he did was nearly break kisame's back by moving at near light speed hell both yamato and bee noted that Naruto disappeared and reappeared like a flash of light comparing him to minato bee even mistook it for teleportation and he would later do this on two other occasions when he dodged the raikage's fastest punch and when obito nearly chopped kakshi in half with a large shuriken. In his adult year he fought delta and from boruto and the other's POV Naruto and delta were moving around like two lighting bolt's clashing and Naruto was holding back even just a bit
@@denobiskenechi1682The one naruto character that could move at light speed at that time was utterly broken and considered one of the strongest ninja in the first part of the series. Its not a common feat that characters from the first part can compete with.
@@r.a.s6410Not to mention hes strong enough he just casually escapes a black hole's event horizon while pushing a space ship full of aliens as well. Naruto gets absolutely shitted on.
You can make Naruto way faster, as he scales above momoshiki who created all the stars in his dimension and travelled across space to earth which massively faster than light. Naruto is way superior to him and isshiki
MFTL would be consistent considering he’d be massively faster than he was as a kid keeping up with Haku as he’s moving through mirrors, which is light speed, with a No-Tails Rage amp
Creation is vastly different from destruction, The Supreme kais are behind the creations of intelligent life, planets and all, well, Creation, But are vastly weaker than the main cast of Dragon Ball, Just because you can create something doesn't mean you're strong enough to destroy it
When i see people scale Naruto to Solar System i still remember the Universal Bleach meta, or the fate servants also scaling to cosmic entities. Sometimes power scaling gets so damn weird when we can just say theyre Strong and thats fine too.
boruto fights are largely street lv what you people even talking about isshiki didt do anything solar system lv nor did momoshiki delta or shin uchiha literally nobody in boruto's 300 episodes even did a city lv feat none of the people saying these characters can destroy a country, can even provide a single feat
The black hole feat cant be moon level when a black hole as big as that gets close to a star it gets warped and absorbed apmost instantaneously and omni man was chilling right next to its rings that cant be moon lvl
Nobody talking about her size dimension is mentioned in boruto episode 24 at 14.10 it is stated to be a parallel dimension which means parallel universe (people who don't know anything about parallel dimensions you can search it on the internet yourself and it is the Universe)..
@@r.a.s6410 isekai means parallel universe or parallel dimension or other world (Go to any Japanese dictionary like jisho and check it for yourself)... But the official translation was "parallel dimension" even English dub it was parallel dimensions
DBZ is a whole other level. Like Nolan is just Superhero mutation with Alien Technology mixed in. But DBZ is that + Magic. That's very hard to outclass when supernatural abilities supercede any physical feat. When you try to quantify a character you have to consider everything. Like for example Mufuba being an instant seal for any evil spirit opponent is extremely strong and outclasses any physical feat. It's now supernatural and magical feats. Unless Nolan has shown to know some level of Ki control then it's really not the same. You have to keep that in mind when really looking at these fictional characters. Light Yagami technically outclasses them because of how the Death Note works and characters like Ichigo with his Soul Reaper abilities exist within the Spiritual Realm so if Omni-Man kills Ichigo it doesn't actually stop him. Just a little bit of magic has huge implications.
it puts him way above shippuden and as such boruto people gonna dislike that cause naruto is their fave nobody in boruto has had any feats hence why people still scale boruto as if it's shippuden using all the scenes from shippuden cause boruto has no feats of it's own
Its mostly the same so far, with only minor differences that havent changed the main story at all (like amber being different, the subway scene, and the guardians dying earlier than in the comics).
How is this even a question for people? Omni Man peaks at like Moon Level+ attack potency and durability while Naruto is at minimum star level. The only thing Omni Man has on Naruto is speed which doesn't mean anything because Nolan couldn't hurt Naruto....ever. It'd be like trying to shoot a Tank with a Pistol, it doesn't matter how many bullets you fire, it will NEVER penetrate the armor.
@@haloplayer439 you've never watched the end of Shippuden or Boruto then. Naruto scales faaaar past Kaguya at this point and she was capable of blowing up her dimension which contained multiple celestial bodies. Naruto is Star Level MINIMUM.
@@genericwhitemale9566 No, you're just an idiot who takes things too literally. And don't try and explain anything to me, I have already seen so many videos and discussions on this stuff. It is just all hyboling and taking statements too literally. Naruto is nowhere near star level, end of discussion.
Omni man throwing himself into the black hole implies that he believe it would have killed him. "The gravitational force at the event-horizon of a black-hole is equal to the Planck force. The Planck force is 1.2 Newtons x 10^44. This force remains constant for all black-holes, regardless of their size or their mass." Conveniently, the largest super novas force is also somewhere around 10^44 newtons of force (measuring these forces in newtons is weird but its the best we can do.) Since both of these forces are solidly solar system level, if we take the solar system level scaling from Naruto, he might just be able to tank the black hole, and fly out of it, which Omni man could not. This is just some fun Irl scaling so dont take it as serious fact, im not an astrophysicist.
End of series Mark and Thragg who are both massively stronger than omniman are getting near death levels of damage from fighting inside a star. Which is signifigantly less impressive that outright tanking one that's exploding.
@@IchigoKurosaki911 I forget where so don’t take my word for it, but I remember reading somewhere that it wasn’t actually the star that was the problem, it was that the star was damaging them and they were fighting at the same time. Something about focusing smart atom regen. I still agree with you but it’s harder to quantify since we don’t know how much it nerfs they’re Durability.
The gravity at the event horizon of a black hole of one solar mass is 1.6 trillion g(by physics stack Exchange), omni man weight is 250 lb (113 kg), his weight at event horizon is 113×1.6×10¹²×9.8= 1.7×10¹⁵ N, if you consider it as the biggest black hole ever discovered then it reach 1.6×10²⁶ N
What a load of garbage😂😂😂 so naruto can get hurt by a lighting attack by sasuke which can't destroy the planet earth but naruto is gonna survive a black hole😂😂😂
Gonna go with Naruto here. Naruto has feats putting him at moon level even if you low ball him. I know for fact naruto is large planetary level and beyond that with baryon mode.
Naruto has also dodged light speed attacks 4 different times in the series. Reacted to instant teleportation and can run faster than lightning speed in kurama chakra mode
giant rasengan is capable of crumbling apart mountains, and that's nothing compared to his later Shippuden jutsu. naruto is without a doubt planetary level.
@@lucasbroome1048 im just using that at my reference point, giant rasengan is like early-mid shippuden. boruto level is definitely like far past planetary.
Good to see my favorite anime character come out on top and to be frank this was a stomp in Naruto's favor the dude is planet to solar system level while Omni man is on only multi continental
@@Tsuna_Dokkanhe's fought with Otsutsukis on the moon on two different occasions. One of those instances, he's also backed by his fellow hokage and literally nobody was using any kind of protective equipment or specific abilities to do it.
@@Tsuna_DokkanAlso in the novels, which canon, Naruto flew to a nearby star system to get something the sage of six paths left there. But he had to use his kurama cloak to breath in space.
Not necessarily, since Naruto can get to those tiers of power using only the anime and manga (depending on how you interpret some feats and statements.)
I will explain why the black hole feat is higher than moon level, it’s called a event horizon which all black holes have it is a point of which the black holes gravity starts to pull you in, its pull is so strong that it pulls in everything not even light can escape and we see Nolan getting pulled in while resisting very easily but if you want to calculate a black holes gravitational pull and event horizon as moon level idk what you’re on
Dude doesn't have a clue about science and is just low balling Nolan because the blackhole "didn't blow up or move" like lol that's not how blackholes work to begin with. To put it into perspective the closest blackhole to our solar system is a mid to small sized blackhole (comparatively to other blackholes) it has 3 million times the gravity Earth does meaning Nolan was pulling away from something 3 million times Earth's gravity IF it was a small blackhole.
Nolan by default isn’t light speed, he builds up to light speed over time, an example of this is when he destroyed that planet that invaded earth, they show you him building up speed, also when he fought red rush, he didn’t kill him instantly he had to time his attacks he missed a few hits and red rush isn’t light speed
Sorry, but no. By feats, Naruto never did anything past Moon level. Kaguya could destroy her core Planet, but she needed all the chakra from the God Tree to do so, which is basically the chakra equivalent of a Planet, so it makes sense. Also, Naruto and Sasuke were never as strong as Kaguya, and even Isshiki was half killed by a Kaguya far weaker than the one they fought. So, scaling Naruto to small planet level would already be a wank, let alone large planet level.
All that Naruto feat you mentioned is before he had full nine tails and adult. All that chakra is hers anyway . Naruto or sasuke as adults can easily defeat her alone , but they need to seal her to get it over cuz although weak she is immortal .
One thing that I don't like about these kinds of scaling videos, is that even though I do agree that Naruto is probably star level, the evidence provided to support this doesn't seem watertight. For example you don't explain why attack potency equals durability in the Kaguya scaling feat, so it doesn't conclusively prove that Naruto can box at these levels. I find that a lot of DBZ scalers who move onto other series seem to assume the same scaling rules apply, where durability and speed is directly proportional to attack potency, whereas in other series this might not necessarily be the case. Again I don't deny that Naruto is that powerful, I just think the video does a poor job of explaining that through evidence. I'd prefer if during those segments the youtuber explains why the ability to blitz and punch kaguya means that Naruto's durability and attack potency is equal to her attack. Is there any direct evidence that shows that kaguya's durability and speed scales to her energy ball or whatever she's using there?
because that would make toneri's one feat look like trash which aint helped when nobody in boruto has no feats omni man in five episodes has more feats then every character in boruto's 300 episodes
I always interpret them going through the planet as I’m just creating a bigger shockwave so they could get a bigger explosion not that they need three of them to destroy it but it’s been a while since I read the comic
Huh?? Naruto attacks potency is way higher den omni man , he’s just faster den Naruto, n imma give him his credit where its due because im a naruto fan but im not bias.
@@rlserik3751hes faster but not by much. considering naruto is considered faster than the 4th who used LITERAL teleportation in the form of ryjin, speed scaling is either closer than you think or completely higher than nolans
They all move by flying in space throughout the universe. Because it took them several years to find the earth to recover the scattered chakra. They can survive in the vacuum of space just like viltrumite. Kaguya found the Earth flying while traveling in space.
bro theres no way your said that naruto is light speed at bare minimum. thats a logical fallacy simply due to the fact that his most popular speed scalings come from his kcm 1 form, by your logic six paths naruto is as fast as kcm 1 naruto, no actually even better you believe that the raikage is as fast as fused momoshiki, so by your logic six paths madara is faster than fused momoshiki and kaguya because madara was the one who took out the raikage, actually even better by your logic killer bee is faster than base momoshiki, kaguya, six paths madara and toneri. bro come back when you actually know how to scale speed, your saying that teen naruto scales to adult naruto in speed which also means that kcm gives you the same stat boosts as six paths. the more you think about it the more of a reach it becomes. bro do your research properly.
Thats not what "bare minimum light speed" means. I say that because I don't believe you can reasonably quantify how much faster later forms of naruto are compared to ones that have light speed feats. Hope this helps.
@@lonkstakesyour opinion is a logical fallacy because base naruto was able to keep up with fused momoshiki, not base momoshiki, fused momoshiki, meaning you believe that adult base naruto is just light speed meaning you also believe that the raikage is faster than base momoshiki which also means you believe that minato is faster than base momoshiki since minato is much faster than the raikage in his kcm form which also means that juubito is faster than base momoshiki and scales to fused momoshiki in speed. Please make it make sense for once. You literally have characters from the war who scale above the raikage in speed so using him as a medium for Naruto is a huge fallacy because your statements contradict feats and scaling within both boruto and shippuden
@@lonkstakes if Naruto was at bare minimum light speed he would automatically lose to momoshiki, toneri and kaguya because the same would happen to minato and the raikage.
@@lonkstakes no it doesn’t help, use the right scalings, if you are unable to find scalings for higher levels of power then you can just say mftl plus and leave it there. Your statement doesn’t change the fact that it’s a logical fallacy. Ima call you out right now, from 6:15 of your video you said you think that Naruto has the hardest highballs and lowballs then you say that both the scalings drastically misinterpret the scaling of the series and what’s shown in both guides and manga, yet you just admitted to lowballing Naruto’s speed, that’s the definition of a hypocrite. At least sound logically sound and give us good scalings and feats.
The black hole feat is more focused on speed and mostly durability rather than AP. He can resist something that can suck light in and resist it's massive gravity which if we take the feat seriously and not just a OP no make sense moment, Naruto doesn't stand a chance against that kind of durability.
@@Bell_Cat639 it’s not really a highball. Pretty clear. Kaguya destroys solar system at worst, Naruto gets stronger the. Kaguya. What am I missing here?
@@Redacted_Ruler that was an attack Naruto just can't replicate in scale. We also don't even knew if kaguya did destroy a solar system all we saw was a star and planet. Being able to beat someone in a fight doesn't mean you can copy their DC just because of that
@@Bell_Cat639AP is all that really matters here, I dont know why it would matter in a fight with someone like omni man. As for the feat, in the data book its explained that it did have the capability of destroying the dimension.
i just thought of another one, based by your own logic and statement juubito aka obito pre-jigen (before jigen) is the fastest character in the entirety of the naruto verse since he speed blitzed kcm minato and naruto.
I'm not a scalling type of guy but that black hold argument made me tilt my head confused I understand that standing on Earth's gravity doesn't make you planetary level but, remember standing next to a black hole which has a gravitational force 1000 upon 1000 (if not million?) time of earth is a feat of it's own It required endurance I guess? To not to turn into white ring for the black hole Then strength and speed to like what? Pull a space ship that looks like 2 to 3 car length and remember, the weight is different since in the increases in gravity And the cells in the body thing too, remember a viltrumitecs ( like mark i think? I forget) did survive nuke (or mini nuke?) Which did number on to their cells through radiation which has the same effect of Naruto's rasaygun with wind element so they can resist it then fight ( or until their healing kick in) With fire element we need something of sun level temperature so Naruto need that Earth element need something with the size more than a mountain Water element I feel like it might be same as wind element But damaging inner organs do seem a best option Also in the giant kurama form while the damage do het increased, its speed dropped ( or at least i didnt see Naruto traveling fast in that form as i aaw it moving slow) and Omni man is very small and speed so he can be very agile here
Omniman's planet busting is actually a feat while Naruto just scales from other characters not comparable, Naruto's striking isn't star or solar just because he scales above Kaguya Lol, Nolan can bust planets with his physical strength while Naruto has never done anything close to that
Omni man planet busting feat isn't something he could have done by himself. It took space racer and three other people flying at an exact speed to blow it up
Naruto’s AP scaling ranges from Planetary to Uni+ so he’s other relative to or one tapping Omni Man AP/Dura wise but in terms of speed, Omni Man is so fast that Naruto is never landing a single hit on him
@@leandrofrancoquintoano9151 did you watch the last where base naruto tanked a attack that split the moon in half with a single wave of the caster’s hand? Then did you see Naruto 1 shot that same person with a single punch in base form?
@@EeveetoUmbreon25Vegeta nuked a planet with 2 fingers, and the explosion destroyed the planets moon too. Yeah no, Naruto has never seen anything like that lol what a joke
In my opinion nolan is far faster then Naruto since he was able to fly from earth to thraxa in about to weeks which makes him significantly faster then light. So in my opinion it would be a stalemate since omni man can't harm Naruto but Naruto can't touch omni man so then why doesn't omni man out right win. Simple in the invicible series when a character strikes someone vastly more durable then them selves there body gets annihilated on contact and I think this is most likely what would happen if omni man tried to punch Naruto so it ends in a stalemate because omni man is faster but can't harm Naruto or he'll kill himself by fighting till he is nothing but small little chunks or he just simply leaves
Naruto actually performed a similar feat in the light novel where he flew to a nearby star system. Momoshiki is also able to move interstellar distances in a short time frame and Naruto was blatantly stronger than that Momoshiki.
@@leandrofrancoquintoano9151 dude, imma be honest, u barely know anything about the naruto verse if ur actually serious. I'm really serious, u should research more.
@@malekith33 sasuke lose his rinnegan agaist a kunai WTF AND HIS FIGHT NARUTO VS SASUKE BOTH NEVER MAKE SOME STRONGER THAT CITY LEVEL HOW NARUTO HIS PLANETARY?
I hate it when people downplay Naruto in these types of vs videos and vs shorts. Naruto is a beast, and he's very powerful just because Omni man comes from a very brutal series, It doesn't mean he defeats Naruto
Even without sage of 6 paths even in base his energy casually split the moon at that point thousands of clones hitting om with moon level attacks will be enough to kill omni man especially since reanimen and the gaurdians gave him trouble both of which naruto solos
Yo bro can you find like at least one matchup for the invincible verse that isn’t just a blatant stomp in the other characters favor bro cause this shit is just getting sad Edit: Would just like to make it clear that I’m not saying this to dis the video.I did enjoy it, I’m just saying that it would be more interesting if it was a more fair match up
I think they believe he wins because they do a bit of a better job show casing the lvl of destruction they can cause. Naruto more so focuses on skill and technique over raw destructive capabilities
@@Mope333Hax such as Dura neg, not to mention Naruto has regen and he regenerated from destroyed organs as a 13 year old but basically he explains Naruto has far higher AP and AP = DC
A lot of naruto scaling metas come from not understanding the manga and straight up mistranslations from amatuer translations. For the kaguya thing, she was only able to create the gudoudama from the chakra of the entire shinobi alliance. Team seven never tanked that attacked. So neither kaguya nor team seven would scale to it. And her dimensions were called 空間. Go look at the kanji on her feat. 空間. Thats kuukan. That means space, room , or airspace. She never mentions 時空間. Thats jikuukan. That means spacetime. This is important because the difference between destroying her entire dimension vs destroying just the planet on it is huge. Thats planet level to universal. And that becomes problematic because thats too big of a jump based on a shared feat anyway. And even the databook only considers kaguya a threat to the planet. _____ And this is not the only mistranslation either. These fan translations of the novels are ridiculous. They use the word 星, hoshi, that can mean star or planet. But when the novel talks about people living on a hoshi, fans translate that as people living on a star.😂 so momoshiki destroyed the star people lived on.😂 Anybody with some basic knowledge of Japanese knows that the planet translation makes more sense. And there are other mistranslations in the databook as well, describing boruto characters splitting the "planet". When it really says they split the earth, as in ground. ____ And im not trying to downplay naruto, but mistranslations are mistranslations. And those are factual, not based on powerscaling but on the Japanese language. And this happenes in other franchises to, notably dragonball, tons of mistranslations in there. But the biggest thing going for dragonball is that it has multiple feats to back it up. So even if you dont want to consider the world of void infinite (though thats not a real mistranslation), there are other showings that say the universes are infinite. And kid buu destroying 100s of planets or stars tracks either way. Especially in the anime where he straight up destroys galaxies.😂 And thats the biggest problem with naruto, he lacks feats. His best feats are moon level. Granted before he loses kurama he gets much stronger. Ill even say planetary. But this star level stuff and beyond are based on mistranslations. And not only that but its never repeated. Its an outlier. Even in the current boruto manga, we only see vaguely planetary feats.
What about when 20 Cloud Jounin were used to power a weapon to destroy the moon while Naruto multiplied 1000~ Shinobi to 3 or 4 times that of Kakashi’s chakra with only one half of the 9 tails in KCM2. Doing the math on that he should be significantly above moon level. Oh and how about the tears in space and time that were created by Naruto and Kurama simply existing? What are your thoughts on that?
@@Shaka_TM I already said he can have planetary. He would scale to that anyway just through time. The databook even describes kaguya's dimensions as 世界 (sekai). This can mean world, society, or yes, universe. But consistently world makes more sense. Especially backed by her calling it a "space". And it's consistent through the series. As for naruto and kurama tearing space time by merely existing, that was never stated in the manga of naruto or boruto. And if it was stated in the novels I bet 空間 was the kanji used and not 時空間 . It comes back to consistency. And there are no feats in the manga that suggest these characters can destroy universes, or even stars, as those statements are based on mistranslations of 星 (hoshi). And do you know how many earths can fit into our sun? 1.3 million. Naruto can be 1 millions times stronger than he was as SO6P and still wouldn't be star level. And it's a real stretch to claim he got that much stronger in baryon mode and throughout the boruto series before he got baryon mode. ____ Furthermore, Jigen/isshiki was defeated by kaguya. And was even burned by a jiraiya clone. And this kaguya didn't have all of the shinobi alliances chakra to power her up. And it was retconned at this time that chakra existed before the otsutsuki. So she was actually weaker here than she was on earth. Which makes sense for planetary scaled beings. I mean kaguya got sealed in a moon and died. For a universal being that can't break out of moon really puts a nail in the coffin for that idea. And seals can be broken out of via raw strength. We see this as early as the original naruto: orochimaru resisting his own seal from the 3rd hokage. And madara using his susano to break out of gaaras seal. ______ Naruto has plenty of moon level feats and scalings to back this up as a teen. It takes 50 moons to fit inside planet earth. He would be planetary before he even reached hokage. The issues are the scales that reach above that. I mean in the current boruto manga, naruto and sasuke are practically dead. They are nerfed and out of the story. Boruto is the new main powerhouse. And he already used a vaguely planetary feat to nearly kill code, someone who scales above the likes of naruto and sasuke. Thats recent proof of a planetary feat and scalings of current characters.
Your example for the black hole and it's lower interpretation doesn't make sense, As Nolan at times was right close in front of it and was completely unfazed by the GBE of it, Are you trying to give the example it's like you resisting the pull of Earth is completely undermining what a black hole actually does It's not like a planet, As it's using its own spaghettification or suction capabilities to take in more mass forcefully and the fact that he was able to just chill and resist it is a much higher feat than "moon" lvl, as Just the black hole a size of a quarter has the mass of a planet
The gravity of a black hole does nothing special compared to everything else in the universe. Black holes are not vacuum cleaners that suck things in. They have no "spagettification or suction" abilities special to them. Things fall in the exact same way other objects around large bodies do. Matter that nears large degenerative masses do experience more tidal forces due to the density, but said forces are not even that wild. The only difference is how densely packed the mass is, which causes a black hole to have an escape velocity greater than the speed of light at the event horizon. In fact, the space around bigger black holes are less dangerous because the difference in their tidal forces between an object and the singularity is far greater. Black holes of near any mass can exist, because it is not size that makes them, but density. Any mass outside of the event horizon will not need to move faster than light to escape. Noland was floating around the accretion disk, which notably, is not inside the event horizon. Thus has an escape velocity slower than light. Even then, the escape velocity for a black hole is not it's surface gravity, which is what would be resisted. For a character who can easily travel MFTL, it is not strange the pull would be effortlessly negated.
Why is this fight eaven a thing ... Omni man with Thadeus and Invincible destroyed a planed with one unch, nobody in Naruto has that kind of power, not to mention that Viltrumites can travel faster then light and can endure space conditions (extrime cold, gravity pull, radiation). Only chanse Naruto characters have is genjutsu, they can use a substitution jutsu and genjutsu ti trap Viltrumites if they can react in time, if not they are history.
I kinda wish you broke down Naruto’s side more cause I feel like Nolan is a lot faster than Naruto and I actively wanted to hear more about Naruto’s AP more
@@jackmakila3776Luffy isn't immune, he has high resistance to blunt force. One of the only characters shown to have the physical strength to be able to hurt Luffy (pre-timeskip at least) without Haki was Garp.
Yeah, maybe. But I think Omni Man has the advantage in stats. Luffy isn't completely immune to blunt forces but he does have a high tolerance to them. The problem is that Omni Man's strength is so fast and strong that his chops could at like the blade of a knife and severely hurt Luffy and I don't think is as fast that he'll dodge a grab from Omni Man and chuck him into space.
Luffy also has scaling that's in the planet to star range so it could be a good match up, though I don't recall if this channel ever did a Luffy scaling video
Who also say this about comics and all fictional characters within their verse that’s what they’re capable that doesn’t mean they can go into someone else’s verse and be that Superman is only the star and main character of his verse so the plot drives and moves around Superman, and that goes for any character in any other universe. That’s why it’s always left up to who’s writing the story.
People like to hate on talk no jutsu but All it is, is philosophy💀 however he has to beat the villain physically first. Saitamas black hole feat also is wayyyyyy more impressive
Comparing Naruto to Solar system or planetary level is crazy cream glazing. The delusion anime bias never fails lmao. Superman beats Goku and Omni Man SPITES Naruto
@@Kodeuk I do not care to and will not because his apparently multi solar highly omnipresent crazy beefed Goji outerversal ass gets clapped by all of DC Marvel and other. And Goku kicks his ass too. And Omni man kicks his ass on any given weekday. Power scalers are high as hell especially when you deal with something as inconsistent as anime. Naruto is a great character and I am a fan but the glaze is in itself outerversal lol. So nah you good, I won’t care for whatever debate you have here. I watched every episode twice over. He doesn’t bust the solar system bro bro
@@1297skypred literally the most simplistic scaling on the planet "she make solar system, she can destroy solar systems so she's solar system level" and we still have ppl complaining lmfao
It seems Invincible is getting more respect nowadays finally. But I really don't get the Naruto star level thing came from. It seems to have been a thing in the fandom for the longest time. Anyways, with fair scaling, Nolan beats Naruto mid diff
so do you guys just ignore the video..he clearly explains that narutos ap would scale to kaguya since shes capable of destroying a dimension that holds a star, and ap = dura within the verse so naruto would have star lvl+ lvls of ap which exceeds ANY of omnimans stats lets not talk ab momoshiki creating a universe tho
@@bowwowww-el1gn Capable of destroying something doesn't prove anything. She can do it over time. For instance, didn't she need to drain chakra in order to destroy a planet? As for Momoshiki creating a universe, what so he can blow up a universe? I didn't know Bob The Builder would be building level That's also ignoring that Omni-Man has his own scaling that gets him to planet, star, and even universal if we highballed for both verses. Nobody in Naruto has shown the ability to blow up anything larger than mercury in one attack
@@Basketballplaye Building something doesn't mean you can destroy it, hence my Bob The Builder reference. And I don't know what the heck "acoustic" means as a description
This is why I don’t take power scaling seriously, it heavily relies on interpretation and is often influenced by the biases of the one scaling them, for example all of Naruto’s higher scaling is heavily reliant on how you interpret Kaguya’s powers and abilities as no other character has displayed that kind of power. Also if you’re going to determine Naruto’s power by scaling him to Kaguya it’s only fair you do the same for Omniman by scaling him to Surpreme.
@@gigawarman12 it’s canon to the Image comics universe which the Invincible series is a part of. Although your comment does prove my point about biases and personal interpretations heavily influencing power scaling.
@@Andrew-Bastin even getting into realm of it being canon (which is actually acknowledged as not being the case by Image comics themselves), we could just as easily also start getting into ratty higher end Naruto stuff.
@@gigawarman12 which further proves my point, power scaling is heavily dependent on interpretation and bias, that what you get when you try to quantify franchises that are incredibly inconsistent.
@@Andrew-Bastin I don't think you get it. When power scaling, no matter how much bias is present, the source *MUST* be considered canon by the source material, otherwise it can't be used, unless you say otherwise from the start.
Space racer or whatever his name is also shot at the planet along with Nolan, Mark, and the older guy and his gun is probably the strongest thing in the verse, able to casually one shot characters on a level that almost resembles actual durability negation
@@christianrowe992 true, but if people say that Broly is faster than Jiren which he obviously isn’t, then Broly would be slightly faster than MUI Goku.
1) Omniman cannot beat Superman, I am so tired of weebs thinking that every person with a cape and super-strength is Superman. Superman would kill Omniman like a fly, the gap between them is so large that it's hilarious. 2) Naruto can -- in no way -- beat Omniman. Omniman is absurdly faster, stronger, more intelligent, better trained and more durable.
You didn’t mention the Canon Light Novels that call Kaguya’s dimensions Parallel Universes and Says Momoshiki creates Parallel universes. Naruto has Universal AP and MTFL Speed
@@yeikelamores6085 How is calling someone Universal after she is stated to being able to destroy /recreate a UNIVERSE a “wank”? You just can’t handle Naruto scaling being that high even tho it’s been YEARS 💀 ruclips.net/video/GAodMji3OMM/видео.html
@@Jacksonmization We have no proof that they are really universes, the translations that I have seen are just that it is another dimension, not a universe,
Obvious win for Naruto, he is about as strong as Perfect Cell and could even beat Majin Buu with his Barrion Form. It would have to be Invincible (after defeating Thragg) to match him.
Naruto is FACTUALLY not even planetary. Idk what you people are on. No, hes not star level. Jesus. Thats insane. Genuinely the worst power scaling I've ever heard in my life.
@@lonkstakes name a single feat he ever does that's planetary. Name one. And ignore the fact he's been downed by Village destroying attacks. Literally in the borutos movie, how does he go down?? Lol. It's from an attack meant to destroy the village. Not a planet, not a star, a village. What about his fight with jigen? Where's the planet busting? Lol. Where's the planet destroying attacks? Literally nothing on that scale. No one does anything on that scale. Even Naruto and sasukes most powerful attacks at the end of Shippuden, aren't even COUNTRY level. The most we have EVER gotten, was Naruto taking a hit that cut the moon. And even then, that was just a super long beam sword, not some massive explosion that destroyed the moon. Never has Naruto done anything remotely close. Ever. And Naruto is not faster than light. How did we KNOW this?? Because he gets blitzed by teleportation. If he was that fast, teleportion at that distance would not matter.
“Look what you have to do to mimic a fraction of my power” - Naruto probably
I don't know if you see this comment, I think Nolan at a mid end is moon level because Mark and Allens clash was able to level the moon, and also Viltrum was stated to be 2x bigger than earth and has a higher gravity.
And for speed Nolan found the nearest solar system when flying which was 4.24 light years from earth. A calc puts this feat at around 221x faster than light.
You should make a debunk on KAZI's video on Super vs Gt goku.
Naruto is factually not even planet level. Not even close. Nolan is SIGNIFICANTLY stronger and numerous times faster than Naruto. Naruto gets walked. Without much effort.
@@jigosi8006 it was stated to be 1.25x not 2x
Kaguya alreasy made six spacetimes. This matchup is weird. HST is too much for invincible.
Talk no jutsu MIGHT work on him. Man's already going through an existential crisis.
It already did, right? Mark used it at the end of season 1 and beat him with it. It was the moment when mark said: “I would have had you dad”. That hurt more than any rasenshuriken imho
Earthussy strong with the viltrumites
@@calebsolonas6085Oh shit, you know what happens in the comic and how quick the Viltramites change after doing the business with the earthlings
@@eduardopantoja9115earth pussy got me questioning my loyalty to the empire, grant regent thragg
It DID work on him. But only his son could succeed.
I am so happy the power scaling community is starting to realize star level scaling is the most consistent for naruto. A lot of people used to just deny it cause “he’s a ninja” with no counter points
"Ninja" is kind of a moot. That's basically pre-season 3 death battle logic, where they always had ninja combatants win over non-ninja combatants.
Naruto isn't even close to star-level. Bro, what? Please tell me this is a joke, because I honestly have no idea if you're just joking or something.
@@ShogunPlasmaStar level is a low-ball for Naruto. Naruto scales at solar system or possibly even higher.
@@ShogunPlasma dude go away cause I doubt you really even know the franchise all that well
@@gigawarman12 I wouldn’t agree with that. Ninja tactics always are there. From naruto clone tricking people till this day. I mean that’s how he beat pain. Or even naruto and sasuke doing the shrunken trick against momoshiki. In Boruto that’s actually a huge theme. There just really strong ninjas lol. We just follow the series through the eyes a hyperactive child
“Because the writers said so” is the worst argument I’ve ever heard
I've been arguing this about Toriyama in Dragonball, but people always say, "If he said it then it's fact" I've countered "No, he has to write it into the story to show it to make it true.
I think a big part of what colors people’s perception of a character’s powers outside their own world is tone. The reality is that Invincible is just way gorier than most super hero stuff and more shocking than Naruto so people have this perception that Nolan just rips anyone else to shreds
pretty much the same arguement against vegeta vs omni man
@@marcierex4547 it would be SO funny to see Vegeta like backhand Omni Man once and just throw up after seeing how detailed Nolan’s head exploding would be
There is a good reason for thinking so buddy the scaling between naruto and invincible is far apart .narutos scaling is more realistic compared to invincible comics
@@thatguy779 that would br fucking hilarious
@@vaughnjackson6297 ye
The Invincible Comics are so wildly inconsistent that the fight can go any number of ways depending on how you see it, it can go from Nolan holding up an infinite universe (outlier) to Nolan needing three other people around his own power level to destroy a planet (Outlier)
When did he hold up an infinite universe?
@@danielendless He doesn't do that himself. He fights a character in a (non-canon) crossover that does, Suprema. Even though they're both made by Image comics, that crossover is considered non-canon.
@@danielendlessmark also scales to dinosaurus both seem to be equal dinosaurus who managed to kill omnipotus who states he can devour worlds and realities which if he’s not capping that’s universal tier at peak low ball multi galaxy which would still make 0 sense and have to be a bluff because nobody else in the show not even thragg who’s strong enough to beat all 3 of em scales even close to solar or even star🗿
@@YungBZ theres a big problem there tho cause that was before the planet busting feat wasn't it? plus I don't believe omnipotus's durability stays the same when he has less energy
omni needing help to destroy a planet isnt an outlier. its literally what happens in his own original story. the only way to get him stronger than that is by applying outside scaling metas, like feats from the animated version, or feats from crossovers, which is disingenuous at best. his most consistent scaling should only be what happens in his original comics.
U should do a video on if the forces of earth in Invincible could survive an invasion from the Frieza Force from the Namek arc
They can’t
Bro must HATE invincible 😭😭😭
Saiyan saga fodderizes Invincible universe
Could they even survive Vegeta & Nappa ?
They would literally get soloed by Guldo
That Naruto-to-Kaguya scaling did not make sense at all. Lol
what about it doesn't make sense? Kaguya has star level attack potency and other characters(like Toneri) are called stronger , Naruto then shows he is stronger than those other characters.
I think people underrate Naruto's speed as well when he first got his KCM the first thing he did was nearly break kisame's back by moving at near light speed hell both yamato and bee noted that Naruto disappeared and reappeared like a flash of light comparing him to minato bee even mistook it for teleportation and he would later do this on two other occasions when he dodged the raikage's fastest punch and when obito nearly chopped kakshi in half with a large shuriken. In his adult year he fought delta and from boruto and the other's POV Naruto and delta were moving around like two lighting bolt's clashing and Naruto was holding back even just a bit
Omniman flew from 1 galaxy to another in 2 weeks. Thats MFTL Speed. He would blitze naruto so hard its not even funny
@@r.a.s6410Naruto characters where moving at light speed's when they where kids so u do the maths
@@denobiskenechi1682The one naruto character that could move at light speed at that time was utterly broken and considered one of the strongest ninja in the first part of the series. Its not a common feat that characters from the first part can compete with.
@@r.a.s6410Not to mention hes strong enough he just casually escapes a black hole's event horizon while pushing a space ship full of aliens as well. Naruto gets absolutely shitted on.
@@r.a.s6410 Flight speed and combat speed are not the same thing.
Since Naruto is like Solar System level according to this video I’d love to see one with him against Cell since he is also Solar System level iirc
Wanked at Solar
Cell can go further than solar system with feats. And Naruto is multi solar system or Uni depending on how u scale him
@@Kodeuk not even 🤣
@@unknodaemon9220 we can debate this on cord
naruto is street lv in boruto
nobody has been able to even show me a single building lv and there's literally 300 bloody episodes
You can make Naruto way faster, as he scales above momoshiki who created all the stars in his dimension and travelled across space to earth which massively faster than light. Naruto is way superior to him and isshiki
MFTL would be consistent considering he’d be massively faster than he was as a kid keeping up with Haku as he’s moving through mirrors, which is light speed, with a No-Tails Rage amp
Creation is vastly different from destruction, The Supreme kais are behind the creations of intelligent life, planets and all, well, Creation, But are vastly weaker than the main cast of Dragon Ball, Just because you can create something doesn't mean you're strong enough to destroy it
@@AllTheSameSeam that only matters for DC, not AP, for AP, Creation >= Destruction
@@Tsuna_Dokkan What's DC and AP stand for again?
@@AllTheSameSeam destructive capacity and attack potency
Naruto also tanked a beam from Toneri that split the moon
Deflected and not in Base form
a hollow moon. thats like cutting the tissue roll tube
@@TheTriangle444 and Naruto didn't even do a lot of DMG with his KCM2 punch
and omni man survived a black hole
toneri cut a hollow moon in half and 300 episodes of boruto, it's still the best feat
so very consistent clearly
@@nagatouzumaki4047momoshiki destroyed a freaking solar system what are you talking about?
When i see people scale Naruto to Solar System i still remember the Universal Bleach meta, or the fate servants also scaling to cosmic entities. Sometimes power scaling gets so damn weird when we can just say theyre Strong and thats fine too.
boruto characters are street lv
@@nagatouzumaki4047bro what???
He has tons of solar system level feats that are consistent
boruto fights are largely street lv what you people even talking about
isshiki didt do anything solar system lv nor did momoshiki
delta or shin uchiha
literally nobody in boruto's 300 episodes even did a city lv feat
none of the people saying these characters can destroy a country, can even provide a single feat
@@nagatouzumaki4047 you just need to read some data books and do your own research
Naruto Can Give Him Sage Chakra To Kill Him For Sure
He can’t do that because omni man doesn’t have any chakra
@@rhysmendozavilla2378 chakra can still be channeled into other people
3:37 You're not resisting earth's gravity...
The black hole feat cant be moon level when a black hole as big as that gets close to a star it gets warped and absorbed apmost instantaneously and omni man was chilling right next to its rings that cant be moon lvl
Really, moon level is a massive exaggeration, at best it's island to Continental
@@yeikelamores6085 Goku would get destroyed by that blackhole.
@@dariusanderson5557 jajajaja no,Good joke
@@yeikelamores6085 It's not a joke. he would.
@@dariusanderson5557 Black holes at best are solar system level, Goku is massively above that since Namek
Woah I just saw the post about this and when to check your page and it says 11 seconds ago posted,crazy
Nobody talking about her size dimension is mentioned in boruto episode 24 at 14.10 it is stated to be a parallel dimension which means parallel universe (people who don't know anything about parallel dimensions you can search it on the internet yourself and it is the Universe)..
Facts but people don’t like using nobles cause it makes Naruto scaling too high 💀
Nope the Japanese version uses the word Iseakai. Which means other world as in planet
@@r.a.s6410 isekai means parallel universe or parallel dimension or other world (Go to any Japanese dictionary like jisho and check it for yourself)... But the official translation was "parallel dimension" even English dub it was parallel dimensions
The scene where Omni-Man is super close to a black hole and then nopes outta there, wouldn’t that place him somewhere in the dbz roster?
Tf no 😂, he didn’t manipulate the black hole he was trying to kill himself tf lol , he ain’t tanking that
DBZ is a whole other level. Like Nolan is just Superhero mutation with Alien Technology mixed in. But DBZ is that + Magic. That's very hard to outclass when supernatural abilities supercede any physical feat. When you try to quantify a character you have to consider everything. Like for example Mufuba being an instant seal for any evil spirit opponent is extremely strong and outclasses any physical feat. It's now supernatural and magical feats. Unless Nolan has shown to know some level of Ki control then it's really not the same. You have to keep that in mind when really looking at these fictional characters. Light Yagami technically outclasses them because of how the Death Note works and characters like Ichigo with his Soul Reaper abilities exist within the Spiritual Realm so if Omni-Man kills Ichigo it doesn't actually stop him. Just a little bit of magic has huge implications.
it puts him way above shippuden and as such boruto
people gonna dislike that cause naruto is their fave
nobody in boruto has had any feats hence why people still scale boruto as if it's shippuden using all the scenes from shippuden cause boruto has no feats of it's own
@@nagatouzumaki4047another d umb invincible fan
Will the invincible show have better feats than the comics potentially.
Its mostly the same so far, with only minor differences that havent changed the main story at all (like amber being different, the subway scene, and the guardians dying earlier than in the comics).
@@undeadinside3571 dang
and the black hole thing@@undeadinside3571
How is this even a question for people? Omni Man peaks at like Moon Level+ attack potency and durability while Naruto is at minimum star level. The only thing Omni Man has on Naruto is speed which doesn't mean anything because Nolan couldn't hurt Naruto....ever. It'd be like trying to shoot a Tank with a Pistol, it doesn't matter how many bullets you fire, it will NEVER penetrate the armor.
Naruto star level? Wtf yamcha is 300000 time stronger
Bruh Naruto barely moon lvl while being generous start lvl is crazy what ap does he have that could blow up the sun or earth plz this is hilarious
@@haloplayer439 you've never watched the end of Shippuden or Boruto then. Naruto scales faaaar past Kaguya at this point and she was capable of blowing up her dimension which contained multiple celestial bodies. Naruto is Star Level MINIMUM.
@@genericwhitemale9566 No, you're just an idiot who takes things too literally.
And don't try and explain anything to me, I have already seen so many videos and discussions on this stuff.
It is just all hyboling and taking statements too literally.
Naruto is nowhere near star level, end of discussion.
@@haloplayer439bro😭 10 random featless jounin were stated to be able to blow up the moon in the last movie via the clouds super weapon
Omni man throwing himself into the black hole implies that he believe it would have killed him. "The gravitational force at the event-horizon of a black-hole is equal to the Planck force. The Planck force is 1.2 Newtons x 10^44. This force remains constant for all black-holes, regardless of their size or their mass." Conveniently, the largest super novas force is also somewhere around 10^44 newtons of force (measuring these forces in newtons is weird but its the best we can do.) Since both of these forces are solidly solar system level, if we take the solar system level scaling from Naruto, he might just be able to tank the black hole, and fly out of it, which Omni man could not.
This is just some fun Irl scaling so dont take it as serious fact, im not an astrophysicist.
End of series Mark and Thragg who are both massively stronger than omniman are getting near death levels of damage from fighting inside a star. Which is signifigantly less impressive that outright tanking one that's exploding.
@@IchigoKurosaki911 I forget where so don’t take my word for it, but I remember reading somewhere that it wasn’t actually the star that was the problem, it was that the star was damaging them and they were fighting at the same time. Something about focusing smart atom regen. I still agree with you but it’s harder to quantify since we don’t know how much it nerfs they’re Durability.
The gravity at the event horizon of a black hole of one solar mass is 1.6 trillion g(by physics stack Exchange), omni man weight is 250 lb (113 kg), his weight at event horizon is 113×1.6×10¹²×9.8= 1.7×10¹⁵ N, if you consider it as the biggest black hole ever discovered then it reach 1.6×10²⁶ N
@@IchigoKurosaki911 they did infact nearly die by fighting in that sun for what should be less then 5 minutes
What a load of garbage😂😂😂 so naruto can get hurt by a lighting attack by sasuke which can't destroy the planet earth but naruto is gonna survive a black hole😂😂😂
Gonna go with Naruto here. Naruto has feats putting him at moon level even if you low ball him. I know for fact naruto is large planetary level and beyond that with baryon mode.
Naruto has also dodged light speed attacks 4 different times in the series. Reacted to instant teleportation and can run faster than lightning speed in kurama chakra mode
Moon level is a tier below Nolan. With the same highball Naruto gets, Nolan also gets to solar system
giant rasengan is capable of crumbling apart mountains, and that's nothing compared to his later Shippuden jutsu. naruto is without a doubt planetary level.
@@joshzeke1122 Scaling above mountain doesn't get u planetary
@@lucasbroome1048 im just using that at my reference point, giant rasengan is like early-mid shippuden. boruto level is definitely like far past planetary.
Good to see my favorite anime character come out on top and to be frank this was a stomp in Naruto's favor the dude is planet to solar system level while Omni man is on only multi continental
Wanked to solar
@@unknodaemon9220ignorant fool
Omnichad is strong, but NaruGoat is Stronger...
believe it i guess
Naruto can breathe in space
Based on what feats? Did he do something like that in The Last? I forgot
@@Tsuna_Dokkanhe's fought with Otsutsukis on the moon on two different occasions. One of those instances, he's also backed by his fellow hokage and literally nobody was using any kind of protective equipment or specific abilities to do it.
@@Tsuna_Dokkan Yes it was the last
Man why tf is Naruto fighting in space but Goku can’t fight in space.
@@Tsuna_DokkanAlso in the novels, which canon, Naruto flew to a nearby star system to get something the sage of six paths left there. But he had to use his kurama cloak to breath in space.
You could use Comp Omni-Man which from what I heard, could get up to Universal if you ever want to put him up against stronger characters.
them he has to use comp naruto to be fair
Not necessarily, since Naruto can get to those tiers of power using only the anime and manga (depending on how you interpret some feats and statements.)
i mean yeah but it is non cannon
@@measlyhorizon3886people use non canon feats all the time with Marvel and DC characters and no one bats an eye so we should let it pass
Then you have to use COMP Naruto naturally
I will explain why the black hole feat is higher than moon level, it’s called a event horizon which all black holes have it is a point of which the black holes gravity starts to pull you in, its pull is so strong that it pulls in everything not even light can escape and we see Nolan getting pulled in while resisting very easily but if you want to calculate a black holes gravitational pull and event horizon as moon level idk what you’re on
Dude doesn't have a clue about science and is just low balling Nolan because the blackhole "didn't blow up or move" like lol that's not how blackholes work to begin with. To put it into perspective the closest blackhole to our solar system is a mid to small sized blackhole (comparatively to other blackholes) it has 3 million times the gravity Earth does meaning Nolan was pulling away from something 3 million times Earth's gravity IF it was a small blackhole.
Nolan by default isn’t light speed, he builds up to light speed over time, an example of this is when he destroyed that planet that invaded earth, they show you him building up speed, also when he fought red rush, he didn’t kill him instantly he had to time his attacks he missed a few hits and red rush isn’t light speed
So he’s light speed? Lol
Naruto is low solar system Nolan is multi planet
Also Naruto won’t get blitzed jonnins are lightspeed and Naruto is far faster
multi planet 💀dawg couldnt even blow up 1 planet
@@marcierex4547he wasn't at peak yet tbf
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 his best feat is blowing through a planets core that was already damaged
@@marcierex4547and with 2 other viltrumites.
I thought Naruto was planet level. This was surprising
He is moon level. Star level naruto is pure wank from the fanbase
He’s a bit above moon level since that was like 13 years ago in Naruto
@@r.a.s6410 did you even watch the anime? kaguya manipulated dimensions with stars in them
@@r.a.s6410Ignorant fool
I love this matchups like you have two people who are strong but are not just super similer
I think the fun parts of your videos, is the lack of inherent trash talk that you see in most other powerscaling youtubers
I appreciate that 😄
The planet busting feat was inconsistent as they needed 3 Viltrumite to destroy a dying planet
Sorry, but no. By feats, Naruto never did anything past Moon level. Kaguya could destroy her core Planet, but she needed all the chakra from the God Tree to do so, which is basically the chakra equivalent of a Planet, so it makes sense. Also, Naruto and Sasuke were never as strong as Kaguya, and even Isshiki was half killed by a Kaguya far weaker than the one they fought.
So, scaling Naruto to small planet level would already be a wank, let alone large planet level.
All that Naruto feat you mentioned is before he had full nine tails and adult.
All that chakra is hers anyway .
Naruto or sasuke as adults can easily defeat her alone , but they need to seal her to get it over cuz although weak she is immortal .
“Naruto never did anything past moon level.” What a way to immediately lose all credibility.
One thing that I don't like about these kinds of scaling videos, is that even though I do agree that Naruto is probably star level, the evidence provided to support this doesn't seem watertight. For example you don't explain why attack potency equals durability in the Kaguya scaling feat, so it doesn't conclusively prove that Naruto can box at these levels. I find that a lot of DBZ scalers who move onto other series seem to assume the same scaling rules apply, where durability and speed is directly proportional to attack potency, whereas in other series this might not necessarily be the case. Again I don't deny that Naruto is that powerful, I just think the video does a poor job of explaining that through evidence. I'd prefer if during those segments the youtuber explains why the ability to blitz and punch kaguya means that Naruto's durability and attack potency is equal to her attack. Is there any direct evidence that shows that kaguya's durability and speed scales to her energy ball or whatever she's using there?
well simply because chakra scales to the user, i think thats just the fastest answer that chakra scales to the user
You can scale Naruto way past Kaguya off of momoshiki.
How do you not mention that space racer's blast did most of the work in viltrum's destruction?!?
because that would make toneri's one feat look like trash which aint helped when nobody in boruto has no feats
omni man in five episodes has more feats then every character in boruto's 300 episodes
I always interpret them going through the planet as I’m just creating a bigger shockwave so they could get a bigger explosion not that they need three of them to destroy it but it’s been a while since I read the comic
He blitz and out strength naruto but naruto has more skills and abilities
Naruto should be physically more impressive casually blocking and punching moon sitting attacks
Huh?? Naruto attacks potency is way higher den omni man , he’s just faster den Naruto, n imma give him his credit where its due because im a naruto fan but im not bias.
@@rlserik3751hes faster but not by much. considering naruto is considered faster than the 4th who used LITERAL teleportation in the form of ryjin, speed scaling is either closer than you think or completely higher than nolans
Base Naruto has 3 feats of dodging literal light speed attacks in the retsuden novels, He wouldn’t get blitzed.
@@TimXMan1000 he only dodge normal light speed while nolan travel faster then kight speed millions of time faster then light speed
Naruto is multiversal end of story,each dimension has multiple stars in them,its shown in a few pannels that there is 1000s of stars in the backround
This would be consistent as momoshikis dimension has thousands of stars in the backround also and a supernova
Do the Otsutsuki fly throughout the Naruto universe or do they just use Space-Time techniques?
They all move by flying in space throughout the universe. Because it took them several years to find the earth to recover the scattered chakra. They can survive in the vacuum of space just like viltrumite. Kaguya found the Earth flying while traveling in space.
All the otsutsuki have the ability to fly. They also have space time techniques
bro theres no way your said that naruto is light speed at bare minimum. thats a logical fallacy simply due to the fact that his most popular speed scalings come from his kcm 1 form, by your logic six paths naruto is as fast as kcm 1 naruto, no actually even better you believe that the raikage is as fast as fused momoshiki, so by your logic six paths madara is faster than fused momoshiki and kaguya because madara was the one who took out the raikage, actually even better by your logic killer bee is faster than base momoshiki, kaguya, six paths madara and toneri. bro come back when you actually know how to scale speed, your saying that teen naruto scales to adult naruto in speed which also means that kcm gives you the same stat boosts as six paths. the more you think about it the more of a reach it becomes. bro do your research properly.
Thats not what "bare minimum light speed" means. I say that because I don't believe you can reasonably quantify how much faster later forms of naruto are compared to ones that have light speed feats. Hope this helps.
@@lonkstakesyour opinion is a logical fallacy because base naruto was able to keep up with fused momoshiki, not base momoshiki, fused momoshiki, meaning you believe that adult base naruto is just light speed meaning you also believe that the raikage is faster than base momoshiki which also means you believe that minato is faster than base momoshiki since minato is much faster than the raikage in his kcm form which also means that juubito is faster than base momoshiki and scales to fused momoshiki in speed. Please make it make sense for once. You literally have characters from the war who scale above the raikage in speed so using him as a medium for Naruto is a huge fallacy because your statements contradict feats and scaling within both boruto and shippuden
@@lonkstakes if Naruto was at bare minimum light speed he would automatically lose to momoshiki, toneri and kaguya because the same would happen to minato and the raikage.
@@lonkstakes no it doesn’t help, use the right scalings, if you are unable to find scalings for higher levels of power then you can just say mftl plus and leave it there. Your statement doesn’t change the fact that it’s a logical fallacy. Ima call you out right now, from 6:15 of your video you said you think that Naruto has the hardest highballs and lowballs then you say that both the scalings drastically misinterpret the scaling of the series and what’s shown in both guides and manga, yet you just admitted to lowballing Naruto’s speed, that’s the definition of a hypocrite. At least sound logically sound and give us good scalings and feats.
@@The_endlessV1 If I say something is the bare minimum I'm acknolwedging the capacity to reasonably scale him higher 💀
The black hole feat is more focused on speed and mostly durability rather than AP. He can resist something that can suck light in and resist it's massive gravity which if we take the feat seriously and not just a OP no make sense moment, Naruto doesn't stand a chance against that kind of durability.
Please look at the comment I wrote.
@@Redacted_Ruler Naruto isn't solar system without high balling him. I'm taking the consistent Naruto here which is low star-multi planetary
@@Bell_Cat639 it’s not really a highball. Pretty clear. Kaguya destroys solar system at worst, Naruto gets stronger the. Kaguya. What am I missing here?
@@Redacted_Ruler that was an attack Naruto just can't replicate in scale. We also don't even knew if kaguya did destroy a solar system all we saw was a star and planet. Being able to beat someone in a fight doesn't mean you can copy their DC just because of that
@@Bell_Cat639AP is all that really matters here, I dont know why it would matter in a fight with someone like omni man. As for the feat, in the data book its explained that it did have the capability of destroying the dimension.
naruto ain’t even star level. any feat he has dealing wit moons or planets isn’t even canon. stop with this star level planetary level arguement
he's solar system
@@yamisukihiro4132Kaguya has a better change at that than him lmao
@@Mope333 yeah
i just thought of another one, based by your own logic and statement juubito aka obito pre-jigen (before jigen) is the fastest character in the entirety of the naruto verse since he speed blitzed kcm minato and naruto.
@Tele..gramLonkstakes no problemo it’s not everyday I get to correct illogically sound children on stupidity
I'm not a scalling type of guy but that black hold argument made me tilt my head confused
I understand that standing on Earth's gravity doesn't make you planetary level but, remember standing next to a black hole which has a gravitational force 1000 upon 1000 (if not million?) time of earth is a feat of it's own
It required endurance I guess? To not to turn into white ring for the black hole
Then strength and speed to like what? Pull a space ship that looks like 2 to 3 car length and remember, the weight is different since in the increases in gravity
And the cells in the body thing too, remember a viltrumitecs ( like mark i think? I forget) did survive nuke (or mini nuke?) Which did number on to their cells through radiation which has the same effect of Naruto's rasaygun with wind element so they can resist it then fight ( or until their healing kick in)
With fire element we need something of sun level temperature so Naruto need that
Earth element need something with the size more than a mountain
Water element I feel like it might be same as wind element
But damaging inner organs do seem a best option
Also in the giant kurama form while the damage do het increased, its speed dropped ( or at least i didnt see Naruto traveling fast in that form as i aaw it moving slow) and Omni man is very small and speed so he can be very agile here
Hay, I'm just giving my opinion...Never mind if i said anything rude
Ppl forget Nolan fought a man who could hold up the infinite universe
Who?
Thats not canon
@@SleepingSoulK it is, look it up
@@MRBass6000 supreme from image comics
Thats an outliner though hes not consistently on that level
I mean, if we use Omnipotus scaling we can wank Omniman to pretty high levels, but that's inconsistent at best.
And a reminder that naruto tanked a clean moon slash from toneri and wasn't even scratched
Omniman's planet busting is actually a feat while Naruto just scales from other characters not comparable, Naruto's striking isn't star or solar just because he scales above Kaguya Lol, Nolan can bust planets with his physical strength while Naruto has never done anything close to that
Omni man planet busting feat isn't something he could have done by himself. It took space racer and three other people flying at an exact speed to blow it up
@@Primitivephoenixand planet was only destroyed because they hit a certain point in the planet that caused it to blow up lol
Naruto’s AP scaling ranges from Planetary to Uni+ so he’s other relative to or one tapping Omni Man AP/Dura wise but in terms of speed, Omni Man is so fast that Naruto is never landing a single hit on him
He doesn’t really need to hit him tbh Omni Man would hurt himself trying to hit Naruto
Naruto never is planetary level lol vegeta saiyan saga solo him
. No he wouldn't
@@leandrofrancoquintoano9151 did you watch the last where base naruto tanked a attack that split the moon in half with a single wave of the caster’s hand? Then did you see Naruto 1 shot that same person with a single punch in base form?
@@EeveetoUmbreon25Vegeta nuked a planet with 2 fingers, and the explosion destroyed the planets moon too. Yeah no, Naruto has never seen anything like that lol what a joke
Can you do Goku vs IDW Comics Optimus Prime?
I don’t know anything about IDW prime sorry😭
@@lonkstakesthere fans are toxic goated_convoy things transformers is extraversal because of feats that are 6D
In my opinion nolan is far faster then Naruto since he was able to fly from earth to thraxa in about to weeks which makes him significantly faster then light. So in my opinion it would be a stalemate since omni man can't harm Naruto but Naruto can't touch omni man so then why doesn't omni man out right win. Simple in the invicible series when a character strikes someone vastly more durable then them selves there body gets annihilated on contact and I think this is most likely what would happen if omni man tried to punch Naruto so it ends in a stalemate because omni man is faster but can't harm Naruto or he'll kill himself by fighting till he is nothing but small little chunks or he just simply leaves
Naruto is significantly ftl too, even edo madara was reacting to light speeds before he cast edo tensei on himself
Naruto actually performed a similar feat in the light novel where he flew to a nearby star system. Momoshiki is also able to move interstellar distances in a short time frame and Naruto was blatantly stronger than that Momoshiki.
Nah naruto is also mftl.
@@AFed69light speed? No one of naruto have light speed
@@leandrofrancoquintoano9151 So you blatantly haven't read/watch the series then.
Great video but cmon now how is this even a question? Naruto absolutely negs
Huh? This sounds pretty close 🤔
Sidenote, I think Madra was supposed to be scaled to the same level as NAPA. I seen something in an interview ones
Naruto claps and outhaxes
Naruto lose in 4 seconds he is max city lever and omni is stronger and faster
@@leandrofrancoquintoano9151 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@malekith33 kishimo say that only a nappa claps all of naruto
@@leandrofrancoquintoano9151 dude, imma be honest, u barely know anything about the naruto verse if ur actually serious. I'm really serious, u should research more.
@@malekith33 sasuke lose his rinnegan agaist a kunai WTF AND HIS FIGHT NARUTO VS SASUKE BOTH NEVER MAKE SOME STRONGER THAT CITY LEVEL HOW NARUTO HIS PLANETARY?
I hate it when people downplay Naruto in these types of vs videos and vs shorts. Naruto is a beast, and he's very powerful just because Omni man comes from a very brutal series, It doesn't mean he defeats Naruto
Omni Man is an actual monster
@@amongusgameplays5845 so is Naruto
Omni man is planet level
Exactly, Naruto not even that
Even without sage of 6 paths even in base his energy casually split the moon at that point thousands of clones hitting om with moon level attacks will be enough to kill omni man especially since reanimen and the gaurdians gave him trouble both of which naruto solos
Bro skipped to the end and ignored every point lol
Lmao what? Naruto is losing
Also that moon was fake
Yo bro can you find like at least one matchup for the invincible verse that isn’t just a blatant stomp in the other characters favor bro cause this shit is just getting sad
Edit: Would just like to make it clear that I’m not saying this to dis the video.I did enjoy it, I’m just saying that it would be more interesting if it was a more fair match up
raditz vs invincibles brother
That’s why I’m saying Mark vs Boruto
@@marcierex4547oh that should be interesting.
@@Tsuna_DokkanBoruto is stronger than Naruto, he annihilates mark😭
@@speeddemon6365 current Boruto is, but Pre Timeskip isn’t
I think they believe he wins because they do a bit of a better job show casing the lvl of destruction they can cause. Naruto more so focuses on skill and technique over raw destructive capabilities
Then wtf can that do to Omni-man? Lol
@@Mope333Hax such as Dura neg, not to mention Naruto has regen and he regenerated from destroyed organs as a 13 year old but basically he explains Naruto has far higher AP and AP = DC
@@Nigsta Buttt Omni-man stronger than any opponent Naruto faced
A lot of naruto scaling metas come from not understanding the manga and straight up mistranslations from amatuer translations.
For the kaguya thing, she was only able to create the gudoudama from the chakra of the entire shinobi alliance. Team seven never tanked that attacked.
So neither kaguya nor team seven would scale to it.
And her dimensions were called 空間. Go look at the kanji on her feat. 空間. Thats kuukan. That means space, room , or airspace.
She never mentions 時空間. Thats jikuukan. That means spacetime.
This is important because the difference between destroying her entire dimension vs destroying just the planet on it is huge. Thats planet level to universal.
And that becomes problematic because thats too big of a jump based on a shared feat anyway.
And even the databook only considers kaguya a threat to the planet.
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And this is not the only mistranslation either. These fan translations of the novels are ridiculous. They use the word 星, hoshi, that can mean star or planet. But when the novel talks about people living on a hoshi, fans translate that as people living on a star.😂 so momoshiki destroyed the star people lived on.😂
Anybody with some basic knowledge of Japanese knows that the planet translation makes more sense.
And there are other mistranslations in the databook as well, describing boruto characters splitting the "planet". When it really says they split the earth, as in ground.
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And im not trying to downplay naruto, but mistranslations are mistranslations. And those are factual, not based on powerscaling but on the Japanese language.
And this happenes in other franchises to, notably dragonball, tons of mistranslations in there. But the biggest thing going for dragonball is that it has multiple feats to back it up. So even if you dont want to consider the world of void infinite (though thats not a real mistranslation), there are other showings that say the universes are infinite. And kid buu destroying 100s of planets or stars tracks either way. Especially in the anime where he straight up destroys galaxies.😂
And thats the biggest problem with naruto, he lacks feats. His best feats are moon level. Granted before he loses kurama he gets much stronger. Ill even say planetary. But this star level stuff and beyond are based on mistranslations. And not only that but its never repeated. Its an outlier. Even in the current boruto manga, we only see vaguely planetary feats.
Cook bro they aint gonna like this
What about when 20 Cloud Jounin were used to power a weapon to destroy the moon while Naruto multiplied 1000~ Shinobi to 3 or 4 times that of Kakashi’s chakra with only one half of the 9 tails in KCM2. Doing the math on that he should be significantly above moon level. Oh and how about the tears in space and time that were created by Naruto and Kurama simply existing? What are your thoughts on that?
@@Shaka_TM I already said he can have planetary. He would scale to that anyway just through time. The databook even describes kaguya's dimensions as 世界 (sekai). This can mean world, society, or yes, universe. But consistently world makes more sense. Especially backed by her calling it a "space". And it's consistent through the series.
As for naruto and kurama tearing space time by merely existing, that was never stated in the manga of naruto or boruto. And if it was stated in the novels I bet 空間 was the kanji used and not 時空間 . It comes back to consistency. And there are no feats in the manga that suggest these characters can destroy universes, or even stars, as those statements are based on mistranslations of 星 (hoshi).
And do you know how many earths can fit into our sun? 1.3 million.
Naruto can be 1 millions times stronger than he was as SO6P and still wouldn't be star level. And it's a real stretch to claim he got that much stronger in baryon mode and throughout the boruto series before he got baryon mode.
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Furthermore,
Jigen/isshiki was defeated by kaguya. And was even burned by a jiraiya clone. And this kaguya didn't have all of the shinobi alliances chakra to power her up. And it was retconned at this time that chakra existed before the otsutsuki. So she was actually weaker here than she was on earth.
Which makes sense for planetary scaled beings. I mean kaguya got sealed in a moon and died. For a universal being that can't break out of moon really puts a nail in the coffin for that idea. And seals can be broken out of via raw strength. We see this as early as the original naruto: orochimaru resisting his own seal from the 3rd hokage. And madara using his susano to break out of gaaras seal.
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Naruto has plenty of moon level feats and scalings to back this up as a teen. It takes 50 moons to fit inside planet earth. He would be planetary before he even reached hokage. The issues are the scales that reach above that.
I mean in the current boruto manga, naruto and sasuke are practically dead. They are nerfed and out of the story. Boruto is the new main powerhouse. And he already used a vaguely planetary feat to nearly kill code, someone who scales above the likes of naruto and sasuke. Thats recent proof of a planetary feat and scalings of current characters.
@@nuclearwaste2062 how about momoshiki eating stars?
@@nuclearwaste2062 also, goku ain't outer just to confirm. Bunch of wank
I like your content.
Your example for the black hole and it's lower interpretation doesn't make sense, As Nolan at times was right close in front of it and was completely unfazed by the GBE of it, Are you trying to give the example it's like you resisting the pull of Earth is completely undermining what a black hole actually does It's not like a planet, As it's using its own spaghettification or suction capabilities to take in more mass forcefully and the fact that he was able to just chill and resist it is a much higher feat than "moon" lvl, as Just the black hole a size of a quarter has the mass of a planet
The gravity of a black hole does nothing special compared to everything else in the universe. Black holes are not vacuum cleaners that suck things in. They have no "spagettification or suction" abilities special to them. Things fall in the exact same way other objects around large bodies do. Matter that nears large degenerative masses do experience more tidal forces due to the density, but said forces are not even that wild.
The only difference is how densely packed the mass is, which causes a black hole to have an escape velocity greater than the speed of light at the event horizon. In fact, the space around bigger black holes are less dangerous because the difference in their tidal forces between an object and the singularity is far greater.
Black holes of near any mass can exist, because it is not size that makes them, but density. Any mass outside of the event horizon will not need to move faster than light to escape.
Noland was floating around the accretion disk, which notably, is not inside the event horizon. Thus has an escape velocity slower than light. Even then, the escape velocity for a black hole is not it's surface gravity, which is what would be resisted. For a character who can easily travel MFTL, it is not strange the pull would be effortlessly negated.
@@PenguinSagebody that fraud
Lmao I knew it. Omni man D riders mad
Why did you scale Omniman resisting the gravitational pull of the black hole instead of scaling him pulling the spaceship away from the black hole?
That’s what the calc is from. It’s moon level at best.
@@lonkstakes Blackholes SWALLOW ENTIRE SOLAR SYSTEMS, calling it "moon level" is a disgusting lowball
5:30 yeah but then when Nolan fought the guardians he still got touched so I'd say there's something else going on there
Omni man rips through all forms of Naruto
Naruto from the hit anima Burrito?!
Why is this fight eaven a thing ... Omni man with Thadeus and Invincible destroyed a planed with one unch, nobody in Naruto has that kind of power, not to mention that Viltrumites can travel faster then light and can endure space conditions (extrime cold, gravity pull, radiation). Only chanse Naruto characters have is genjutsu, they can use a substitution jutsu and genjutsu ti trap Viltrumites if they can react in time, if not they are history.
Naruto is like Solar System level lol. They are finished
@@rohanthomas6629 😂🤣😂🤣
just watch the video instead of saying nonsense
@@_B4nk you fanboys only see one side, the side you like
@@filipcesnjak2944 The video already confirms this lol. Also TSO negs lmao.
3:27 the only reason I would disagree on that is because a moon would pe damn near instantly spaghettified that close to a black hole
Professional goon solos both
I kinda wish you broke down Naruto’s side more cause I feel like Nolan is a lot faster than Naruto and I actively wanted to hear more about Naruto’s AP more
Moon level
@@r.a.s6410autism
In my opinion I think luffy has a chance against comic omni man 🤷
absolutely not. luffy would get murdered on the spot. They both have punch and kick fighting, omni man just hits 100x harder and 100000x faster
@@wolog1454 omni man is a physical brawler and luffy is immune to physical damage
-Idiots
@@jackmakila3776Luffy isn't immune, he has high resistance to blunt force. One of the only characters shown to have the physical strength to be able to hurt Luffy (pre-timeskip at least) without Haki was Garp.
Yeah, maybe. But I think Omni Man has the advantage in stats. Luffy isn't completely immune to blunt forces but he does have a high tolerance to them. The problem is that Omni Man's strength is so fast and strong that his chops could at like the blade of a knife and severely hurt Luffy and I don't think is as fast that he'll dodge a grab from Omni Man and chuck him into space.
Luffy also has scaling that's in the planet to star range so it could be a good match up, though I don't recall if this channel ever did a Luffy scaling video
Who also say this about comics and all fictional characters within their verse that’s what they’re capable that doesn’t mean they can go into someone else’s verse and be that Superman is only the star and main character of his verse so the plot drives and moves around Superman, and that goes for any character in any other universe. That’s why it’s always left up to who’s writing the story.
Naruto: Nah I'd win
People like to hate on talk no jutsu but All it is, is philosophy💀 however he has to beat the villain physically first.
Saitamas black hole feat also is wayyyyyy more impressive
Comparing Naruto to Solar system or planetary level is crazy cream glazing. The delusion anime bias never fails lmao. Superman beats Goku and Omni Man SPITES Naruto
Naruto is multi solar possibility uni. We can debate this
@@Kodeuk I do not care to and will not because his apparently multi solar highly omnipresent crazy beefed Goji outerversal ass gets clapped by all of DC Marvel and other. And Goku kicks his ass too. And Omni man kicks his ass on any given weekday. Power scalers are high as hell especially when you deal with something as inconsistent as anime. Naruto is a great character and I am a fan but the glaze is in itself outerversal lol. So nah you good, I won’t care for whatever debate you have here. I watched every episode twice over. He doesn’t bust the solar system bro bro
@@1297skypred he scales off of Kaguya who created 6 solar system size dimensions
@@1297skypred literally the most simplistic scaling on the planet "she make solar system, she can destroy solar systems so she's solar system level" and we still have ppl complaining lmfao
The better question is, can Naruto talk-no-jutsu him?
Naruto claps
Would you be willing to do a part 2 of this with composite versions of both characters ?
It seems Invincible is getting more respect nowadays finally. But I really don't get the Naruto star level thing came from. It seems to have been a thing in the fandom for the longest time. Anyways, with fair scaling, Nolan beats Naruto mid diff
Facts, Naruto is nowhere near star, small planetary at best
so do you guys just ignore the video..he clearly explains that narutos ap would scale to kaguya since shes capable of destroying a dimension that holds a star, and ap = dura within the verse so naruto would have star lvl+ lvls of ap which exceeds ANY of omnimans stats
lets not talk ab momoshiki creating a universe tho
@@bowwowww-el1gn Capable of destroying something doesn't prove anything. She can do it over time. For instance, didn't she need to drain chakra in order to destroy a planet? As for Momoshiki creating a universe, what so he can blow up a universe? I didn't know Bob The Builder would be building level
That's also ignoring that Omni-Man has his own scaling that gets him to planet, star, and even universal if we highballed for both verses. Nobody in Naruto has shown the ability to blow up anything larger than mercury in one attack
@@lucasbroome1048 If he built it wouldn’t that mean he would not hie to destroy one? Are you acoustic?
@@Basketballplaye Building something doesn't mean you can destroy it, hence my Bob The Builder reference. And I don't know what the heck "acoustic" means as a description
0:50 I thought he was going to say Boruto’s dad
This is why I don’t take power scaling seriously, it heavily relies on interpretation and is often influenced by the biases of the one scaling them, for example all of Naruto’s higher scaling is heavily reliant on how you interpret Kaguya’s powers and abilities as no other character has displayed that kind of power.
Also if you’re going to determine Naruto’s power by scaling him to Kaguya it’s only fair you do the same for Omniman by scaling him to Surpreme.
His fight with Supreme is from a non-canon crossover.
@@gigawarman12 it’s canon to the Image comics universe which the Invincible series is a part of. Although your comment does prove my point about biases and personal interpretations heavily influencing power scaling.
@@Andrew-Bastin even getting into realm of it being canon (which is actually acknowledged as not being the case by Image comics themselves), we could just as easily also start getting into ratty higher end Naruto stuff.
@@gigawarman12 which further proves my point, power scaling is heavily dependent on interpretation and bias, that what you get when you try to quantify franchises that are incredibly inconsistent.
@@Andrew-Bastin I don't think you get it. When power scaling, no matter how much bias is present, the source *MUST* be considered canon by the source material, otherwise it can't be used, unless you say otherwise from the start.
Space racer or whatever his name is also shot at the planet along with Nolan, Mark, and the older guy and his gun is probably the strongest thing in the verse, able to casually one shot characters on a level that almost resembles actual durability negation
Omni-Man flies multiple times faster than light, Omni-Man could kill Naruto and his entire trash verse easily.
Its been shown they're combat speed is drastically slower than they're flight speed as a race
@@christianrowe992 true, but if people say that Broly is faster than Jiren which he obviously isn’t, then Broly would be slightly faster than MUI Goku.
@@danielkiely3988 ok I'm sorry but im confused as what your implying lol? But your correct in your hypothetical
@@christianrowe992 I know lol, I just really like Jiren and I think people low-ball him due to Broly’s popularity.
@@danielkiely3988 yeah I agree it was just random lmao so I was a bit caught of guard but yeah jiren is a boss
1) Omniman cannot beat Superman, I am so tired of weebs thinking that every person with a cape and super-strength is Superman. Superman would kill Omniman like a fly, the gap between them is so large that it's hilarious.
2) Naruto can -- in no way -- beat Omniman. Omniman is absurdly faster, stronger, more intelligent, better trained and more durable.
You didn’t mention the Canon Light Novels that call Kaguya’s dimensions Parallel Universes and Says Momoshiki creates Parallel universes.
Naruto has Universal AP and MTFL Speed
That's Wank, multi solar system maximum
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How is calling someone Universal after she is stated to being able to destroy /recreate a UNIVERSE a “wank”?
You just can’t handle Naruto scaling being that high even tho it’s been YEARS 💀
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@@Jacksonmization We have no proof that they are really universes, the translations that I have seen are just that it is another dimension, not a universe,
How powerful is base form Naruto? Cuz Omni man probably wouldn't waste time flying right at him full-speed.
Obvious win for Naruto, he is about as strong as Perfect Cell and could even beat Majin Buu with his Barrion Form. It would have to be Invincible (after defeating Thragg) to match him.
💀 bro what ?
What?😂
Cell destroys Naruto
We didn't watch the same show did we?
@@antoniacorrales9148 Naruto literally is that strong.
Multi solar system Vs multi continental (hmm I wonder who’s stronger????) 🤔😂😂😂
First
it would be like him fighting red rush but in reverse
Naruto is FACTUALLY not even planetary. Idk what you people are on. No, hes not star level. Jesus. Thats insane. Genuinely the worst power scaling I've ever heard in my life.
What was wrong with what I said
@@lonkstakes name a single feat he ever does that's planetary. Name one. And ignore the fact he's been downed by Village destroying attacks.
Literally in the borutos movie, how does he go down?? Lol. It's from an attack meant to destroy the village. Not a planet, not a star, a village.
What about his fight with jigen? Where's the planet busting? Lol. Where's the planet destroying attacks? Literally nothing on that scale. No one does anything on that scale. Even Naruto and sasukes most powerful attacks at the end of Shippuden, aren't even COUNTRY level.
The most we have EVER gotten, was Naruto taking a hit that cut the moon. And even then, that was just a super long beam sword, not some massive explosion that destroyed the moon.
Never has Naruto done anything remotely close. Ever. And Naruto is not faster than light. How did we KNOW this?? Because he gets blitzed by teleportation. If he was that fast, teleportion at that distance would not matter.
@@bobdylan1968 Attack potency and destructive capacity aren’t the same thing. And light speed is not as fast as teleportation. Hope this helps.
I agree tbh
@@bobdylan1968 Get in his server and debate it then.
I was the 1k like for this video. Remember me.
naruto one shots
Why is Goku making faces lol
Boruto ruined the franchise
The scaling he used was in shippuden!
@@speeddemon6365 wdym I never mentioned him talking abt it in the vid
I'm a huge fan of both and I'll say this, Omni man doesn't beat Naruto not by a long shot