"Boredom is a side effect of Mastery." YES thanks for pointing this out. Sending much love your way, thanks for this great episode. (Katie that *sips tea* T-shirt is everything).
Kate and Abbie make a good point on being too serious, setting too high expectations and trying to be perfect in your writing. I do that like SO MUCH. 😂 PS. I tried to be as good as Abbie in her writing. 😕
Well done, ladies! 👏 Your ability and talent for creating rewatchable content is a gift. Thank you for giving us the kind of writing advise we all need to hear instead of opting for the swift kick in the pants everyone else seems to be offering. You have my heart. 💜
I’ve been working on world building doing landscape drawings. For some reason I’m less critical of myself when I use crayons instead of colored pencils. Thanks to this mindset my regular pencil drawings of my characters have really improved. Think I’m gonna be trying this approach with the writing process.
I do the same thing. For some of my stories I look back in my sketchbook of characters I’ve created for inspiration. Sometimes I think about creating a comic book but the process is daunting.
I have my work in a binder. Adding to the portfolio is very rewarding 😁 I’m by no means a professional artist but I’m not too shabby either. It’s fun and gets my creative energy flowing, I get pumped just thinking about my WIP!
Recently I rediscovered the point you were making about having fun writing. I needed to create a story exploring a magic system I created for a minor section of a different story. I grabbed a snippet of a line from a song I was listening to and decided it would make a great title, which sparked a plot idea. From that I thought it might be fun to add Easter eggs in the story regarding the band and even create the same number of protagonists in the story as there were members of that band and use the band member's quirks and details to inspire the characterization of my protagonists. These details were completely unrelated to my plot and even to the characters, who were created for the plot rather than to be in any way analogous to the band members. With this mix of weird details all over the place I had what would usually be a recipe for a slog trying to get everything working together, something that typically culminates in me staring blankly at my screen wondering how on Earth I can make this work, if at all. Instead I had some immediate images of voyages to the sun and zipping around on magical transport systems and sat down to write just off the top of my head. I didn't even start in order, just took the most compelling image in my head and went with it. And as it turned out I just started writing and couldn't stop. When I had to break to go to sleep I couldn't stay asleep because things were just pouring into my head. I rarely knew much more of the plot than the word I had currently put down on the page. Yet in this headlong rush of writing I created really compelling characters and a and creative plot tying all these disparate details together as I went along, with only the slightest revision when I needed to phrase things differently or had written an offhand detail that I had an immediate idea for building upon. It had me laughing and crying at the prose in such a way as I hadn't felt in a while, and I went probably about 6 or 7 chapters before I ran out of free flow and had to take some time to work out the ultimate trajectory of the plot. I even conlanged elvish swear words for one character to use profusely. I had a blast and it was a feeling I hadn't experienced to that extent in a long time. That type of feeling was what made me love writing in the first place. It's great to experience it anew.
This is so helpful. I'm actually in the middle of transplanting a great scene from my first terrible book to my current work and your comment about expecting too much is spot on. The scene is great but I've clearly built it up in my mind and the writing style is different from my current piece. I think I'm gonna go forward with realism and just transplant the bones, those are the most important parts of a scene anyways.
Kate is saying that kids only write because it's fun and they don't worry about whether it's good or not, and I know from personal experience in this very moment that's not true. I worry about it being good ALL the time I am writing. Makes it super hard to focus, too.
Yes yes yes!! Find the fun in it and set the bar lower. That literally has been my mindset lately, and it's certainly helped me write consistently. So glad you addressed this topic, Kate and Abbie! It's so important to reiterate that someone else's process might not look the same as yours, at all.
Wow, I couldn’t have listened to this at a better time. Currently editing my manuscript and have been prostrating because of all the reasons... I am going to apply your suggestions and make this into as pleasant of an experience as I can so I don’t get caught up in “Pinterest” 🤣
Ok, apparently I now love you guys so much that I can't stop smiling and laughing with you through your podcast. Especially towards the end when you were talking about Michelangelo. It honestly feels like hanging out with you and having fun.
I have about 16 books, short stories, children’s books and screenplays all on around page 62 bc I get discouraged and my expectations are Virgo high! 😂 Thanks for this video! ❤
I'm feeling very discouraged. I feel like I will never be an author because no one seems to understand and encourage me to continue. They look at me as if I'm only writing to please myself and then they tell me being an author is the hardest thing in the world... What do I do? Should I quite? Can someone help me?
Okay so, it's not wrong to only write for personal pleasure. Do they expect authors to hate what they do and pump out books just for the dollar bills? As far as I understand, authors write primarily for personal pleasure, and the publishing is a way to financially sustain themselves and/or validate their creative existence by sharing their work.
Clara Bryant - Thanks for the advice. That's all very true. I just want to become an author but it doesn't seem possible. Especially when people are negative about it.
I haven't felt unhappy about my writing for maybe half a year now. I'm not sure if it's because I finally learned to stop being such a perfectionist, or because my writing level has finally met my own high expectations.
Good topic! Thanks. You know what would be interesting? To debate a writing topic on which you have wildly varying opinions. I'd really like to hear that!
"Great writer is the one who makes you feel something." Feelings are great and all, but Joe Abercrombie taught me that The Prose Itself incites the acts of reading.
It is so unfair to yourself and your writing to compare your 1st, 2nd, and 3rd+ drafts, to a finished, professionally edited, published novel. The people who wrote those books are human just like you. Their drafts probably looked a lot like yours before all the time, money, and additional help were brought in. Be kind to yourself and the process.
I've actually been listening to all your podcasts while I walk in the mornings. I'm hopping on to this to give you a thumbs up. Well done.
"Boredom is a side effect of Mastery." YES thanks for pointing this out. Sending much love your way, thanks for this great episode. (Katie that *sips tea* T-shirt is everything).
Kate and Abbie make a good point on being too serious, setting too high expectations and trying to be perfect in your writing.
I do that like SO MUCH. 😂
PS. I tried to be as good as Abbie in her writing. 😕
Well done, ladies! 👏 Your ability and talent for creating rewatchable content is a gift. Thank you for giving us the kind of writing advise we all need to hear instead of opting for the swift kick in the pants everyone else seems to be offering. You have my heart. 💜
I’ve been working on world building doing landscape drawings. For some reason I’m less critical of myself when I use crayons instead of colored pencils. Thanks to this mindset my regular pencil drawings of my characters have really improved. Think I’m gonna be trying this approach with the writing process.
I do the same thing. For some of my stories I look back in my sketchbook of characters I’ve created for inspiration. Sometimes I think about creating a comic book but the process is daunting.
I have my work in a binder. Adding to the portfolio is very rewarding 😁 I’m by no means a professional artist but I’m not too shabby either. It’s fun and gets my creative energy flowing, I get pumped just thinking about my WIP!
"My painting is dead." Excellent. Been there. The creative experience truly is not confined by time.
Recently I rediscovered the point you were making about having fun writing.
I needed to create a story exploring a magic system I created for a minor section of a different story. I grabbed a snippet of a line from a song I was listening to and decided it would make a great title, which sparked a plot idea. From that I thought it might be fun to add Easter eggs in the story regarding the band and even create the same number of protagonists in the story as there were members of that band and use the band member's quirks and details to inspire the characterization of my protagonists. These details were completely unrelated to my plot and even to the characters, who were created for the plot rather than to be in any way analogous to the band members. With this mix of weird details all over the place I had what would usually be a recipe for a slog trying to get everything working together, something that typically culminates in me staring blankly at my screen wondering how on Earth I can make this work, if at all.
Instead I had some immediate images of voyages to the sun and zipping around on magical transport systems and sat down to write just off the top of my head. I didn't even start in order, just took the most compelling image in my head and went with it. And as it turned out I just started writing and couldn't stop. When I had to break to go to sleep I couldn't stay asleep because things were just pouring into my head. I rarely knew much more of the plot than the word I had currently put down on the page. Yet in this headlong rush of writing I created really compelling characters and a and creative plot tying all these disparate details together as I went along, with only the slightest revision when I needed to phrase things differently or had written an offhand detail that I had an immediate idea for building upon. It had me laughing and crying at the prose in such a way as I hadn't felt in a while, and I went probably about 6 or 7 chapters before I ran out of free flow and had to take some time to work out the ultimate trajectory of the plot. I even conlanged elvish swear words for one character to use profusely. I had a blast and it was a feeling I hadn't experienced to that extent in a long time.
That type of feeling was what made me love writing in the first place. It's great to experience it anew.
This is so helpful. I'm actually in the middle of transplanting a great scene from my first terrible book to my current work and your comment about expecting too much is spot on. The scene is great but I've clearly built it up in my mind and the writing style is different from my current piece. I think I'm gonna go forward with realism and just transplant the bones, those are the most important parts of a scene anyways.
Kate is saying that kids only write because it's fun and they don't worry about whether it's good or not, and I know from personal experience in this very moment that's not true. I worry about it being good ALL the time I am writing. Makes it super hard to focus, too.
Guys if you have Pinterest, follow kate and Abbie!
Ps I couldn't wait for this video! I really needed this, thank you guys!
Yes yes yes!! Find the fun in it and set the bar lower. That literally has been my mindset lately, and it's certainly helped me write consistently. So glad you addressed this topic, Kate and Abbie! It's so important to reiterate that someone else's process might not look the same as yours, at all.
Idk if I'd say "disgusted", but I definitely worry about it 😂 But it's only the first draft, so I try to keep that in mind
Wow, I couldn’t have listened to this at a better time. Currently editing my manuscript and have been prostrating because of all the reasons... I am going to apply your suggestions and make this into as pleasant of an experience as I can so I don’t get caught up in “Pinterest” 🤣
Ok, apparently I now love you guys so much that I can't stop smiling and laughing with you through your podcast. Especially towards the end when you were talking about Michelangelo. It honestly feels like hanging out with you and having fun.
This speaks to me on a spiritual level.
Wow! This was exactly what I needed! Thankyou Kate! Thankyou Abbie!
I have about 16 books, short stories, children’s books and screenplays all on around page 62 bc I get discouraged and my expectations are Virgo high! 😂 Thanks for this video! ❤
Just what I needed. It should be enjoyable, it's a great outlet! Let it be that
YES!! LOVE it, Kate -- looks great!! MADE my day !! 💜👏👕😃🤙❤️☕️
I LOVE it! & literally sipping homemade tea while I wear it 🙏☕️✨THANK YOU!
@K.A. Emmons 🤗 Well that's just the best thing ever 🙌💕 You are MORE than welcome, sensei 🙏
Woooooowwww. Didn’t think I’d get so much out of this podcast, but I really really did. Thank you 🖤
I'm feeling very discouraged. I feel like I will never be an author because no one seems to understand and encourage me to continue. They look at me as if I'm only writing to please myself and then they tell me being an author is the hardest thing in the world...
What do I do? Should I quite? Can someone help me?
Okay so, it's not wrong to only write for personal pleasure. Do they expect authors to hate what they do and pump out books just for the dollar bills? As far as I understand, authors write primarily for personal pleasure, and the publishing is a way to financially sustain themselves and/or validate their creative existence by sharing their work.
Have you checked out the episode: How to Believe in Yourself (Even when No Else Does). It’s really helpful. 😉
Clara Bryant - Thanks for the advice. That's all very true. I just want to become an author but it doesn't seem possible. Especially when people are negative about it.
@@kennedypatton7874 Yes I have! It helped but the very next day I felt discouraged again. Maybe I should I watch it again...🤔. Thanks 🙂
@@gracethe_violinist 🥰
This video was a blessing. Wow, thank you! Great timing for me.
Thanks a lot! i love you two! Helps me a lot in my process!
I relate to Abbie relating to everything! I don't know! 😂
😊💙
I haven't felt unhappy about my writing for maybe half a year now.
I'm not sure if it's because I finally learned to stop being such a perfectionist, or because my writing level has finally met my own high expectations.
I needed this! Thank you!
Awesome, greetings from Argentina!
I liked your podcast, your conversations are good and helpful. Thank you. 😊🙏
Yay! I love my writing. :)
Good topic! Thanks. You know what would be interesting? To debate a writing topic on which you have wildly varying opinions. I'd really like to hear that!
Great video!!👍
Sooo great!!
Of all of your podcasts, this one may have been made simply to save my sanity. lol And that Michaelangelo quote...oh, muh goodness. Thank you!
"Great writer is the one who makes you feel something." Feelings are great and all, but Joe Abercrombie taught me that The Prose Itself incites the acts of reading.
I started writing at six
OMG. IM at that stage right now....
"I'm not a painter." I'm dead 😂😂
Me: *has never finished outlining the end of a story*
Also me clicking on this video: interesting... 🧍♂️
Can't go wrong, quoting Neil Gaiman!
4:00 i took this advice and it's much better.
Who else felt Kate's line about Pinterest over writing? 🤣
How do you always know what I need to hear?
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Let's goooo!! :D
It is so unfair to yourself and your writing to compare your 1st, 2nd, and 3rd+ drafts, to a finished, professionally edited, published novel. The people who wrote those books are human just like you. Their drafts probably looked a lot like yours before all the time, money, and additional help were brought in. Be kind to yourself and the process.