MyHeritage DNA Genetic Groups REVIEW
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- Опубликовано: 9 июн 2024
- MyHeritage DNA Genetic Groups build upon ethnicity results & family tree information. MyHeritage includes 2,114 geographic regions which may provide more clues for genetic genealogy.
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01:09 Genetic Groups
02:19 Confidence Level
06:09 Common Ethnicities
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I didn't know my dad, I just met him through the My Heritage DNA test. I am 48 years old.
Just a small note, Finland is not part of Scandinavia, and Finns were never Vikings.
Finland is a part of Scandinavia.
@420 rgb It's Fennoscandia but yes I'm aware
I knew someone would bring this up. The debate continues. ruclips.net/video/5VgY07DCPQ0/видео.html
At least linguistically speaking you are correct. Finnish is not related whatsoever to the Swedish, or Norwegian. Hell, their language is not even related to any of the European languages with the exception of Hungarian.
@@dietrevich the Finno-Ugric language family encompasses many languages, but those in Europe include Finnish, the Sami languages, Estonian, and Hungarian
I have done my genealogy up to 8th grandparents on Geni, My Heritage. My mother’s family came from So. Holland and didn’t move far from home base until my grandparents immigrated to US in 1890’s. My Dad’s family came from north Holland(Friesland) also didn’t stray far, immigrated in 1894. So I thought, why do my DNA? But now I’m fascinated and I’m going to do it!
Two reasons to take a DNA test when you have the paper trail you have.
1. To validate your paper trail.
2. To help others, as explained in this video. ruclips.net/video/xvoTBIkXvg0/видео.html
Definitely going to have to check out your website. I don't know much about my grandpa's side, because he was adopted along with his twin sister, so I have to basically eliminate what we know from my other three grandparents' sides and go from there.
Hi Andy, I’m so happy to find your channel!
Have you done a video on how to pinpoint your heritage when it comes to cluster countries (in my case: I’m 22% Balkan) which is from my mums dad side but anything about him is unknown. And also, the same with Iberia (I’m 22% iberian too). I’ve been trying to figure it out for a good 7 months but no luck!
I tend not to get super deep in one specific region. Instead, I teach principles that apply to building a genetic family tree regardless of where you're family is from around the world.
Great video! Thanks, Andy :-)
I'm sure this is one that will need updates as the tool gets improved.
The common surnames are helpful. I have a high confidence group but share none of the group ethnicity. Finally, found a match with the common name.
That's great. Congrats.
I think MyHeritage beats Ancestry while at least in my case being dutch the regions from The Netherlands are much more specific . Really amazing work from MyHeritage !!
That's interesting. My wife's, Devon, DNA is less accurate on MyHeritage than Ancestry. She has more Scandinavian ethnicity on MyHeritage than Ancestry. Her paper trail genealogy does not reflect that much Swedish influence.
Thank you, I haven't used MyHeritage much yet and this is super useful to know.
Glad it was helpful!
I know you said don't worry about the small groups, I also have Finland and West Asian in my small genetic results.
I downloaded Gedmatch and it appears they moved from west Asian/ middle east up into the Red sea/ Baltic areas and into Finland.
It's likely from Finland they moved into North Europe. this likely happened over time hundreds of even thousands of years ago
Very helpful, thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Woah, this is great! This is awesome news!
Glad you think so!
One of my medium confidence genetic groups is "Germany, France, Italy, Switzerland and Austria" lol. I'll just wait for future updates to clear things up 😅
Sounds like a plan.
Great video Andy the low percentage places I would not count
That’s not the case at all,I talked to MyHeritage and they said with the new update it may just not be associated with a certain ethnicity they didn’t detect but you do have that’s why they are doing a new update
It's something to consider if you have researched everything else first.
I took a My Heritage DNA test and I got English 53% Azores Islands Portugal 26.4 % Irish Scottish Welsh 8.9 % Scandinavian 7.6 % East European 4.1 % . I was born in the USA.
I did several tests. I never created a family tree but these tests were able to find some of my genetic groups which I think was interesting. I don’t get genetic groups for England, Scotland or Germany or France but my Irish results and down to the villages my recent ancestors came from show. I also have my Finnish ancestry down to the village my ancestry comes from. I also have French Canadian which pops up. I’m wondering if some of my family history is incorrect about certain ethnicities?
I'm actually really confused about the additional genetic groups. My test said I was Mesoamerican, Iberian, Scandinavian, Balkan & Asian. My mom is Mexican. My dad is Swiss. And, the additional groups were Switzerland, Germany, France & Austria. I was curious to know why there was no percentage for the additional groups. 🙈
The percentages often depend on the confidence level that MyHeritage has when suggesting these additional groups. Since many of the genetic groups you mention have small sample sizes in their reference database, you might not match enough DNA with those you're compared to from these groups. As such, MyHeritage will not return a percentage. That can all change in the future as MyHeritage adds more DNA samples from around the world to their reference populations.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics i got totally different genetic groups than you , what does it mean tho why do they add them to my dna if they have no percentage?
@@FamilyHistoryFanaticsBecause in my ancestry test, there was a purple spot in Lebanon in the Minas genetic group, but there was no genetic group from Lebanon or %"?
Great video! I'm also in the England #13 group. I believe that in my case, it came from my convict ancestors who were transported from England to Sydney, Australia, in the early 1800s.
My parents are showing England 13 in their middle confidence level. My mother has Dorset ancestry and my father has Hampshire ancestry somewhere (common ancestral line for some matches) so it could be via those lines which I know have big Australian descendant lines as far back as 1750s.
Interesting!
I am in the #13 group too. My ancestors were convicts too transported to Australia
I'm part Dutch on my dad's side from colonization and the genetic groups are very accurate showing South Africa (western cape).
That's for sharing your experience.
The one thing that's comically discouraging is the fact that my kits are only 1-2 thousand rather than the 20-30 thousand, or more that I often see people have. My mother's family is from Germany (west of Aalen), Switzerland (on the German side) and Italy (only 200 kits in the later from the Marche area, and it's this tiny, bright white dot), and they come from the smallest of areas. Apparently a lot of Endogamy there. My dad has less than 1,000 (unless it's the one that also covers East Germany), and the matches quickly disappear before 1850 and after 1900.
My dad's side is 80% Poland, but there's groups in Lithuania (confirmed), Russia (St. Petersburg, probably on the Lithuanian side), and the lowest confidence in Belarus and Ukraine (My grandmother's maternal side seems to have matches that come from South-Eastern Poland, Southern Ukraine, and the Rostov area). That leaves Belarus and Northern Ukraine on my grandfather's side (probably my great-grandmother). My grandmother has about 40-50% Russian and Ukrainian based on GEDMatch, and my dad has 50% Belarussian (probably a mix of my grandmother's and some ancestry on my grandfather's side - of which I think is my great-grandmother, which is a brick wall in my tree.).
Very informative video! Thanks a lot. Unfortunately, it seems that I do not have proper access to the genetic groups. All the genetic groups under my ethnicity results appear gray/non-colored. Do you think that it is because I have got to upgrade to Premium or any higher level?
It could be that or it's possible that you have ethnicity groups that have a small representation in the reference database. Have you watched all the video we have made about ethnicity results? Be sure you do. Many of your questions will be answered through them. ruclips.net/p/PLcVx-GSCjcdlvwsLScE4NPKwGA-XUNhhM
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics Thanks again!
Because in my ancestry test, there was a purple spot in Lebanon in the Minas genetic group, but there was no genetic group from Lebanon or %??
So my grandmother told me that my ancestry is mostly Scandinavian and Chiricahua Apache, and a bit of welsh...But over the years I have been told that Native American dna testing is not as accurate...Just judging by looks my skin complexion has quite a bit more pigment in it than my Scandinavian/German cousins...I think it would be nice to find out why I look a lil different...and perhaps who I got it from.
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If you have Native American DNA from the United States region, you'll likely not discover that. Few agree to have their DNA tested which makes all ethnicity tests unreliable for descendants from this population. If you have Central and South American Native people (and some of Canadian First Peoples) in your heritage, then the Native results are more reliable, but not necessarily completely accurate.
My best advice is to use the DNA results as clues to build your family tree through all available resources. Then you can 1) find out for yourself if your grandmother was correct and 2) improve the genetic group recommendations as they are based on trees and DNA markers.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics The Fort Sill Apache Tribe is the descendants of the Chiricahua Apache that was captured and brought to the fort, hopefully more 100% confirmed Native peoples will take the test so we can find out who our relatives are...
It's sad that my Scandinavian side of the family is well documented but the other side isn't.
I have met many people that have visual native American traits but don't know who or where it came from.
Lots of Finns migrated to the area of the Great Lakes.
(I've only seen pictures and visited via google street view, but the nature and landscape of the area looks VERY similar to Finland 😀 Finns likely felt at home there but most importantly they had the skillset needed for the workforce there. Lumberjacks etc.)
Cool. I didn't know that as well as you did.
Is medium confidence still highly accurate?
I'm related to the Wright Brothers. And some presidents.
So different parts of West Virginia is high on mine, which makes sense because that is where I live
Sounds good.
I've started my quest on My Heritage, & really like the ability to record audio associated with a picture. Does anyone know if I'll be able to download a copy of the pictures/audio once the number of recordings grow? Thank you
I see no literature that says you will be able download your audio recordings from MyHeritage. I'll keep looking. If I find a different answer, I'll let you know.
Hey Andy, my whole ethnic breakdown, along with both my parents, have the same groups (Ireland, England, and Germany) however all of our ethnicity results are only middle eastern, North African, and Greek. How could this be?
@Ksjs Jdjdb It's possible. @Covfefe The Middle East was the one of the centers of trade, plus it wasn't uncommon for people from the Middle East, North African, Greece, etc., to mix and intermarry many millennia ago.
The reason for it relates back to the number of people in the Middle Eastern, North African, and Greek reference population that your DNA is compared to is extremely small. If people in that group increase, it is likely that you'll see the ethnicity percentages you expected to increase. This video explains the concept. ruclips.net/video/ScZtHuU78n4/видео.html
I was going to sign up for My Heritage but I had a question regarding what last name do I use as my maiden name as I was adopted. I do know my birth mothers last name and who my birth father was (they were not married) so do I use her maiden name which was my last name before the adoption? Also, do I enter my birth parents names? I know the answer is obvious but I want to know for sure. Thank you
Great question. Enter your birth parents as your parents. For your name, it doesn't have to match your birth parents' names. Use the maiden name you were known as. For my grandmother, we use her adopted last name of Long as that's was her surname after she was taken into the Long family home at 1 week of age.
I do have her name from her biological mother as an alternative name. Does that help.?
My groups don't make any sense to me so far. The one high confidence group matches my recent family history, so no surprises there. The two other likely group matches don't make sense at all, and neither of the three appear to include Finland, that has to be a place some of my ancestors came from. I am more confused about this than I was before uploading my data to MyHeritage.
My guess is you have European ancestry since you mention Finland. The number of individuals in the reference population for that region and surrounding areas is extremely small. Sadly, no genetic genealogy company makes that clear.
The resolution is for an increase of participation in DNA testing by others from where your ancestors originate. Meaning more test takers who take the DNA test and build their family trees showing they are from Finland and other areas that you believe you're from. MyHeritage draws on information family trees and DNA markers together.
Additionally, all DNA testing companies, including MyHeritage, would love to have more people they can include in reference populations. For more about reference populations, check out this video. ruclips.net/video/ScZtHuU78n4/видео.html
Very interesting. My mother and i share in rund about 80% the same genetic groups on 23andme and Myheritage, especially two danish groups at Myheritage what make sense, because i have a grandfather who belongs to the danish minority in Schleswig-Holstein. But i was a little bit wondering about the confidence level at myH on the danish groups, because my i got moderate-high likely matches and my mother low-moderate. But at 23andme It's the opposite. My mother has highly likely matches with the danish population and i have likely matches with Denmark what makes a little bit more sense because genetically my mother is more closer to the danes(Her Father). But in general both Companies detected our danish ancestry very well.👏
What is stunning to me is that my Irish ancestry was completely switched to Scottish and my one-time Scandinavian ancestry which was 33% at one time went away with more advanced testing of populations. I felt cheated by these large changes in genetic profiling.
My wife can relate. Across four genetic genealogy companies, no one agrees with what her ethnicity percentages are. Thus, we invite people to ignore the ethnicity part of the DNA test and focus on building a family tree with genealogical documentation and DNA matching for validation or expansion of a tree.
1:43 I’m not sure if you can help me understand this part, my ethnicity estimates came back as 52.7% Scandinavian, 32.1% Irish, Scottish & Welsh, 11.6% Baltic and 3.6% Italian. The issue here is for me the only genetic group listed is England?
England was a melting pot of most of those. The genetic groups are calculated differently than ethnicity. They are based on people who have reported ancestry (through their family tree) to that group.
I have in the list of common names:Harris, Lee, Green, Carter and Parter😊
What level of grandparents would this reach up to? It seems to clearly capture my grandparents’ groups but for great and great great nothing appears
I think it's up to the 1600's-1700's max
Where do your ancestors come from? The answer really depends on where you're researching and whether there are groups in the database for MyHeritage to recommend for that region.
My Aunt had a lot of Norwegian groups, but alas, none for her mother’s English bio line. I as really hoping for the Balkan one to have some groups because I have no idea if it ties in with her father’s Norwegian parents or with her mother’s bio line. Alas, no groups for that one either.
I imagine that as their database begins to grow larger, there may be some more groups that pop up.
It cant be used for anything constructive really. Its purely for fun.
If you try to use it backwards like you do, how do you decide which blobs to focus on. Every genetic group events are scattered all over the place.
Regular paper trail in combination with an ethnicity estimate is still the way to go for right now.
My wife would agree that paper trail plus DNA is a great way to research. However, some folks are looking for clues where paper trails don't exist. There is a place for the groups but I just find there are too many.
That is very useful !! But I have a doubt, why one of my genetic groups are from Ireland, and the accuracy of the result is high when I have no Irish ancestors or when I don't have any Irish ethnicity on my results?
My guess is they see it but they don't have to add it to the whole list of your DNA so it's considered a trace amount of that group. You might still have someone way back with a drop of Irish.
First, how many generations have you built your family tree on MyHeritage with documentation? Many people think they are one thing and the paper trial shows something different after they start digging. Since I don't know you, I have to throw that out as a possibility before I can move to the next thought.
It's possible that you have DNA that looks like it's from Ireland. It can be explained by the history and intermixing of populations. Or, it can be that the region you are from doesn't have enough representatives in the reference populations to make a more correct judgment, so MyHeritage found the Irish group.
Since I don't know what your ethnicity is, that's the best I can offer.
У моего сына нет ирладской национальности а группа есть, а у меня есть ирландская национальность. Сыну досталась группа а национальность нет. Возможно у вас также
I’m from the UK, and I got my myheritage results back and I was very pleased. I looked to the genetic groups and seen northern and Midwestern USA or something along those lines, it had medium confidence. I’m shocked, does that mean I’m American? if so I had no idea😂
It means that you share DNA with people who migrated to the Midwestern USA. There really isn't a true "American' ethnicity. But many groups in the US share the similar DNA make ups.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics oh right, thank you for explaining this
I can only follow my paternal line back to my 2nd great grandfather. It is very frustrating to me! I don't really know who any of my ancestors are.
You may have the small family problem, which I discuss in this video: The Problem of Small Families in DNA Matching ruclips.net/video/pJDjHg13QgI/видео.html
Or, you have the problem that those who descend from other ancestors have not taken DNA tests for your to link up with.
I have a question please, my etnicity etimate is completely different from my genetic group... I don't understand that
etnicity
55% italian, 20% greek, 10% middle eastern
genetic group: north african
this is very confusing to me... can anyone explain it to me please?
The two aren't related necessarily. I would actually recommend ignoring all the ethnicity and focus on figuring out how you relate to your DNA matches. Only then will you truly understand your heritage.
My father and uncle have 63% and 77.9% English DNA respectively and I have 0% - all tested through My Heritage. My high confidence genetic group is England (Midlands), which is where I grew up. Can this be right? I'm wondering whether to test again with one of the other companies.
I'd do Ancestry, they have a much higher database and are more accurate for ethnicity.
...wow, very interesting, I suspected that some of my ancestors lived in the area of La Rochelle in France, and were Hugenots which fled to Ireland and England in the 1600s, to which I later found a Hugenot cemetery in Dublin with our family name, but this genetic map confirms this, and the dates and areas match up exactly. What's interesting though its of a Irish genetic group and not French, not sure what to make of that....also starting to think I could be related to this guy same genetic group. lol
Awesome. Glad you found success.
My Hugenot ancestors fled France and went to England. After a few years they emigrated again to Charleston, South Carolina. I have a paper trail researched by an older relative for that branch several years ago. After South Carolina they spread to Virginia, Georgia, and eventually (after being rewarded land for service in the revolutionary war) to Virginia, Georgia, and eventually Misissippi.
I have my results from myheritage but i have no genatic groups! What should i do?
As shown in this video (or another one about Genetic Groups), the number of individuals in the reference population for heritage is likely extremely small. Thus, MyHeritage can not reliably tell you that you have a specific genetic genealogy group.
For that to change, an increase in participation in DNA testing by others from your areas of origin) must increase for MyHeritage to improve its results. Also, more of your genetic relatives willing to take a DNA must link their DNA to a documented family tree for MyHeritage to use to help assign a genetic group to you.
What should you do? Build your family tree using DNA matching ruclips.net/p/PLcVx-GSCjcdmsw25mbI-wJin_9_9QQUzI
And build your family tree based on genealogical records (as much as possible. Not all regions of the world have such records). ruclips.net/video/Fx2Tff-R-yI/видео.html
Then advocate for more people of your suspected genetic heritage to take DNA tests with MyHeritage.
Hi. My genetic groups are UK and Ireland #9, England #13, England #11 and UK and Ireland #4 however I do not get English as an ethnicity. Why is this? Is it because MyHeritage updated their Genetic Groups in 2020 but haven't updated their ethnicity estimates since 2017?
I get Irish, Scottish and Welsh and NW European and Iberian and Finnish as ethnicities. My mother has an English surname and I have about 40 to 50 percent English ancestry on my tree.
Why couldn't English be an ethnicity if Irish, Scottish, German, Italian, etc. can be?
I think you can benefit from watching this video regarding the limitations of DNA testing and specifying a location or origin. ruclips.net/video/JZZM_iHIBTM/видео.html
I previously uploaded my results from other site to My Heritage, but I deleted this results file in My Heritage because I bought a kit of them and took the test and sent them my sample but I was surprised that my ethnic estimate in the sample results is the same as the ethnic estimate from the first test that I uploaded it from that site in slightly different percentages and they've added another ethnicity. Does this mean that they in My Heritage copied the results of my first test and added another ethnicity and in this case do I have to take the test again by buying another kit but this time with another email for the results to be different?
knowing that my first test in My Heritage was when I uploaded my results from other site, and I deleted it and did not do the second test (collecting the sample) until after I deleted my first test results file, and the first test and second test were in one account and one email.
Even at My Heritage they analyzed my sample in only two days not from four to six weeks, does this mean that they copied the results of my first test?
It doesn't mean they copied and pasted your ethnicity results. It means that the other company tested enough of the same segments of DNA to base the same ethnicity results on. Thus, you're the same person.
I'm Vietnamese, and my ethnicity on MyHeritage shows that I am 100% Southeast Asian. However, I only have one genetic group and that was France, at a high confidence level. What does it really mean?
There is a lot Vietnamese people living in France. I am assuming you are linked through them. Unless you have French ancestry as well.
As shown in this video (or another one about Genetic Groups), the number of individuals in the reference population for Vietnam is extremely small. Thus, MyHeritage (and other platforms) can reliably tell you that you have Southeast Asian DNA but not specifically where in Vietnam or surrounding areas.
For that to change, an increase in participation in DNA testing by others from Vietnam (and Southeast Asia more broadly) must increase for any DNA testing company to improve their results. Also more Vietnamese people willing to take a DNA who can document their ancestors to their 4 grandparents (who all lived in the same location) can be added to the reference population which will also impact the ethnicity results.
However, I believe many Asian companies restrict the ability for their citizens to take commercial DNA tests so I don't know if that will change anytime soon.
The France group could be true or false. Until MyHeritage has more DNA tests to compare from Southeast Asia, then what they're saying is that you have a segment of DNA that looks like the DNA from a group in France. But that doesn't mean it's true without more data points.
You need to take an Asian DNA-test. I don't know any company name out of my head right now, but i read from a review that their results for Asians is much more accurate. My Asian side in the MyHeritage-test was also very doubtful...
Is Wegene more accurate ? I am an overseas Chinese with a just little % of Central Asian and 1,6% Scandinavian ( MyHeritage.) I doubt its accuracy
My genetic groups are 2 in Sweden and show in Europe. They correspond to my Ancestry DNA genetic groups.
Awesome. Good news.
I am Congolese and my heritage find me a Brazilian genetic groups from Portugal, Italy and Germany but they don’t put any pourcentage just add this group on my page it’s a little confusing
but i only got them from sardinia, i dont have antything from my sout italian and iberian side...or balkan says nothing
I have a question about ethnicity estimates. I understand fully that they are just that but what if a major part of your estimate was unexpected. For instance 32.6%? Which in my case was the highest percentage ethnic group in my estimation and all other groups were indeed what I expected to find.
It really depends on so many factors it's too hard to say. Since most of the world is not represented well in the reference populations that our DNA is compared to, I don't put any faith in any amount of DNA % with regard to ethnicity. Instead, build out your family tree using DNA matches. You'll get more accomplished that way.
What ethnicity was it, if I may ask?That was 32.6 ?
@@rebeca3284 Scandinavian
@@BestFriendBulliesTX Interesting, no family lines leading to Scandinavian?
@@rebeca3284 not that I am aware of. French, English, Irish, Dutch and Scottish. I know that Scandinavians aka Vikings were in all of these countries but that was so long ago I would think it would make up nearly 1/3 of my ethnicity which happens to be the most prominent ethnic group in my estimation
Ha! You and my husband share a genetic group in Harlan, Kentucky. Maybe you're related.
It's possible.
I think the pair of Chinese calligraphy thingy behind you... the one on the left is OK, the other one, on the right side, is put flipped, like seen in a mirror, you should probably take a chance and flip it back into its correctness...
While it might be possible that I had it upside down in this old video, it's not today. I read Mandarin Chinese and had these made for my wife and I when we visited China. Watch a newer video and tell me if this is still incorrect and how.
I got a question maybe someone can help me i would appreciate it.
So my father is 76% iberian and my mother is russian… how many percent iberian will i get at least? Can i can get more than my father? Or just 10% what would you guys think
With the small number of people from the Iberian and Russian areas in the reference database, it all depends on how much you share in common with the people within those databases, not necessarily what you inherited from your parents. Since you have these groups in your family line, I would recommend waiting a few more years before you feel confident that you have the most accurate ethnicity results. Hopefully MyHeritage will be able to increase the database size that they're comparing your DNA to.
Why don't I have a confidence slider on my My Heritage account?
I think I heard in another video that those that were grandfathered in a few years back haven’t got the slider yet. Hopefully that will be rectified with one of the next updates.
If you transferred your raw dna file from some other company, then you won’t get a slider. If you took the test with MyHeritage directly, you’ll get one
@@sykes2698 I transferred mine in December from 23andme to MyHeritage and I have the slider though.
Me too. Hope will got one soon
@@Ladyfyre-graphics Hmm, seems if you uploaded your file around the update release date, you would get the slider. I uploaded mine two years ago and I don't have one. Though both my genetic groups are labeled "High Confidence" in the first place, so I do not need a slider.
Do you have to pay extra to change confidence levels? My confidence level bar doesn’t pop up.
No you don't have to pay for that. If all you're confidence levels are same like if they are all medium, there will be no bar shown
Do you have a free family tree account or a subscription? It's possible that a few basic tidbits are available for free but a subscription unlocks more information.
I have a paid account so I'm not sure why you're not seeing different confidence levels.
Does this cover haplogrouos
No
Considering you have over 50% English ‘DNA’ and you’re American, I think my My Heritage results must be wrong. I live in England, was born here and my ancestors up to at least 7 generations back are English (with some Scottish) yet according to the results I have less than 5% English ‘DNA’.
Apart from some French Huguenot ancestors, some Scottish and maybe a tiny bit of German and Norwegian (according to Ancestry) I’m about as English as you can get.
It also says I have a genetic group in South Carolina. What is that about? I don’t have any ancestors from the U.S. Could it be from distant relatives moving there and settling?
South Carolina - most likely distant relatives moving there.
As far as my English DNA - most of my lineage has descendants from English ancestors. I have one Dutch line and that's it. Due to genetic inheritance, that Dutch has been recombined out of my DNA. The small percentages of ethnicities are likely statistical noise.
IF you have documented DNA that links to all of your great-grandparents being from England (with no intermarriages), then you should considering recommending your DNA to MyHeritage to be included in the English reference population groups. They might need your DNA to improve their English reference population from which folks compare their DNA to. However, one of your close relatives can not be in their database. I would recommend contacting MyHeritage support to see how this could be possible. I can't make any promises.
HOWEVER, consider that there might be some unknown surprises on your family tree throwing off your ethnicity reports. Make sure to build a family tree on MyHeritage, share that family tree as either public or private but searchable. Then connect your DNA to that family tree. Finally, begin validating the DNA matches using the DNA match page tools and potentially ThruLines. If all lines up and your ethnicity doesn't change, then we can question the ethnicity percentages even further.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics Will do! Thanks for that.
I've got 5.9% North African and nearly 3% Iberian peninsula. Given that the Moors ruled Spain for 800 years, I'm guessing those two groups should really be joined together?
I found that France was among the genetic groups that possibly migrated to the Balkans in my updated results. How is that possible? Also, Wright is one of the common ancestor surnames in my family tree. ;-)
Wright is my mothers paternal grandmothers line but they were from Essex. It’s a common surname so may not be that relevant.
@@xrystal Interesting!🤔 My third great grandmother married a Wright.
You would have to check out the history of the Balkans and France. It's possible that the migration is Turks to France or the other way around. Sorry, I'm not that well versed in both regions. However, when I see a situation like this, then I always go to history to see if there is an explanation.
My timeline shows Italian, Portuguese and native American, it fits with my family history
That's awesome. Be sure that you understand what the term "Native American" means as it's different on each platform.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics yes, on My heritage it appears two native Americans related group, one is from Bolivia that is mixed with Iberian and the other is from Peru that is 100% amerindian. I had one great great grandmother that was amerindian from southeast Brazil
i orderd my wife all the kits to find her father side of the family but i realy dont understand it all
You're started off correctly. You have to test in all the databases. Then, come back and ask a lot of questions. That's what we're here for.
What does it mean when you have genetic groups not under any ethnicity?
Check out some of these ideas that MyHeritage suggests as to why your DNA doesn't appear where you want it to. While it's not the exact same question, perhaps these answers will help. education.myheritage.com/article/wheres-my-ethnicity-why-an-ethnicity-might-not-show-up-in-your-dna-and-how-to-find-evidence-of-it-anyway/
@@FamilyHistoryFanaticsAlso same with me it gave me about 4 or 5 genetic groups within one group but it was at 0% ethnicity estimates and said the dna kits used to form those groups was 293 and the dna kits used linked to family trees was 41 so does this mean im related to these groups or not even though they gave me 0% to these additional all available regions/ groups if I don't match them why do they even have them listed for us to view them or compare or to ? Also I didn't get a color but a grey icon for them all ? And they also said the reasons why I didn't have a genetic group confidence level to use was because if it's at a mid confidence level they said if all the genetic groups are all at the same confidence levels they will not display the confidence slider ? Which lost me and won't give me a wider range and understanding of my results and they also didn't give me a filter option to compare these genetic groups to any matches or relatives of mine of these genetic groups so I don't understand any of this doesn't make any sense to me or why they will give you genetic additional groups you don't even match with or are apart of or belong to genetically ?
Is My Heritage going to report Haplogroups soon?
Haplogroups come from your y-DNA and/or your mtDNA. MyHeritage only tests your autosomal DNA so it's not likely. You'll need to test with Family Tree DNA or 23andMe
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics Then how can 23and me find them?
@@sr2291 23&Me tests some Y- & mito-DNA -- not a lot, but enough to identify haplogroups.
@@karlayork877 Ok.
I have a question about these break downs and different groups. Do they go far back to ancient DNA. I know we Poles have the most DNA from the Sarmatian knights and the Amazon women were actually their daughters. We Poles are mostly 50/50 Sarmatian/Slavic with some Baltic DNA which is a division of Slavic DNA.
For your regions of interest, I doubt they have enough people in their database to make that determination. MyHeritage is comparing your DNA to their reference population which includes people who have evidence that their 4 great grandparents are from the same place. That's not likely to help identify ancient groups through DNA. MyHeritage also examines the family trees of members share similar DNA to find the genetic group recommendations. Few of the member trees on MyHeritage have reliably built their DNA to ancient peoples.
That's a long answer to say that it's not likely that the groups will extend into the antiquity that you seek.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics thanks i found the actual area of Poland that has the most of my DNA. I also found when the Hussars found my horse herd and brought us into Poland in 1410 when we help to defend against the Tartar. I did take and ancient DNA test and found migration from the tower of Babel through India between Khazastan and Mongolia next to the Altai mountains and then west on the Steppes but all Europeans took this route. What the Ancient DNA showed that when the Romans took the sons of the Sarmatians to be their cavalry that the boot camp was in Bulgaria. So someone in my family was a Sarmatian knight of Rome and when the entire family became Hussar cavalry to Poland. All families were Hussars at one time.
Glad you could find that all out. Way to go.
Is there anyone around here that got Swiss from Schwyz as their genetic groups? If so, please reply my comment.
I got Swiss but not from schwyz I just got northern Switzerland.
I posted a video on my channel for my genetic groups
I hope you find some folks. However, read the comments that I shared to posts like these for further explanations.
You can only see your ethnicity if you pay for the site.
Yes.
Wouldn't it be simpler to use the Haplogroup system via Y-chromosome test?
Not really. Few people can afford to pay for the y-DNA or mt-DNA testing. Additionally, the matching capabilities of autosomal DNA is easier to conduct that y-DNA or mtDNA. Thus, most companies are going to push people toward autosomal testing.
I don’t know a lot of people that can just drop 400 dollars to access their dna family records. I’m at a brick wall and can pay more than the monthly fee, but the bill yearly. Predatory fee structure.
It's not predatory fee structure. It's capitalism. Before my wife and I started our genealogy education company, we would take turns each year with the various subscription companies. One year it was Ancestry. One year it was MyHeritage. And so forth. Since this is our hobby, we can add it to our budget. It's the same if she continued her paper scrapbooking or I continued in my baseball card collection hobby. You budget for your interests.
HOWEVER... for those seeking free genealogy records, there is always FamilySearch.org or checking out library access to various genealogy websites.
Genetic group 6218?
Does MyHeritage not provide information to help you learn more about that group? It should. If not, tell MyHeritage customer service of that short coming.
Vikings were of different genetically groups. My understanding.
The problem is that the names given to genetic groups don't match with modern identities and this creates a lot of misunderstandings for those who don't know history.
I don’t have a break down of regions it just says European Asian
Not everyone shared DNA with folks in the genetic groups. Wait a few months and perhaps that will change. MyHeritage is constantly striving to improve the reference population that will help the tools they offer.
mines say puerto rico and medium ...wth is dat
I'm not entirely sure. I know Genetic Groups attempt to point out migration groups that might appear in your family tree. I would suggest building a family tree on MyHeritage so they can leverage your family tree with your DNA to improve the Genetic Group recommendations.
One thing I don't understand about this is all my generic groups are different to my ethnicity. I got Polynesian, Finnish, Scandinavian, Irish and north west european but all my genetic groups come from England? Lol why is that?
The Genetic Groups are still in their infancy. Look for periodic updates. Secondly, it's likely that you're matching relatives from the ethnic groups who migrated from England to those other places or vice versa.
It's a new technology and confusing as people ask questions such as yours. Check back again with MyHeritage and see what happens when they run updates.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics I see. Thanks for the explanation 😊
You are using "Immigrated and Emigrated" incorrectly. Immigrated (into) is "to go into"; Emigrated (from) "is to go from"
Thanks for the vocabulary lesson.
hi andy,
i have been acquainted with quite a few people over the years, who have taken dna tests. not a one cared about finding people or filling out their family tree. they were all interested in their nationality make-up. and some were also interested in their group migration. this is me, as well. in listening to your videos, most of what you talk about seems to be finding other people.
i know you have said that ethnicity is not very accurate. so this disappoints me. and i can tell you that everyone i have ever talked to, that has taken a dna test, thinks they know almost exactly what they are. so the vast majority of people would be disappointed. and i am pretty sure that these dna sites are not telling customers the same thing that you are telling us. or their business would plummet. how big does the data base need to be, before nationalities become highly accurate ? thanks.
Would you have taken a DNA test if the company told you the truth behind the reliability of their results? Nope. The companies had thought if they baited people with their ethnicity results, then folks would become so interested in the results they would build their family trees and thus the company would be able to increase the accuracy of their results and up sale customers on record research subscriptions. That hasn't worked out to well and has caused a lot of confusion.
The DNA company representatives all know me and my stance on their ethnicity results. And yet, they still work with me to help people utilize the DNA tree building tool. They also support my wife with her genealogy research training videos. Don't you love it that the companies and a RUclips educator can disagree but still work together?
Anyway... let's tackle the final question, which is a good one. Here's a link to Ancestry's 2018 report of the number of people in their reference populations. www.ancestrycdn.com/dna/static/images/ethnicity/help/WhitePaper_Final_091118dbs.pdf
How reliable do you think a Balochistan group with only 53 persons would be compared to a Germanic Europe 2072 person group? There are about 12 million people in the Balochistan region but only 53 people to compare their DNA to?
In short, the reference populations would likely need to be in the thousands to increase the accuracy of the reporting (depending upon the size of the modern day population).
i have also been able to contact several 2nd and 3rd cousins, whose families have kept a worksheet of their ancestors. those are probably totally accurate. the ancestry records are built from algorithms that have scanned documents. i would say that maybe about half of the documents are available. and the handwriting is so poor and scribbly, that even a pair of eyes has problems. an algorithm is even gonna be worse. census records are great, cuz you can see a whole family in one shot. and see it grow, 10 years later. but census records use nicknames and middle names, etc. - whatever they liked to be called. birth records are sometimes sealed and unavailable. marriage records are also helpful. but it is the combination of all these records that start building some real accuracy. there is a lot of verification work that needs to be done, in order to get an accurate family tree EVEN WHEN THE RECORDS ARE AVAILABLE.
With the last name of “Lee” I think Andy may have Asian or Chinese
That would be an educated guess, but Lee (in English) means meadow. So it could be British.
However, I have documented with records and DNA evidence that our ancestor changed his name in the 1870s from Garnett to Lee. So surname research isn't helpful.
But, since I served a Mandarin speaking mission, I love the Chinese culture and had the pleasure of visiting China before Covid.
The Genetic Group assigned at a high confidence level makes no sense to me as I have ZERO ancestors from any of those countries listed and the very few cousin matches from those countries are likely false positives given the small amount of shared DNA (i.e., 6-8 cM). So far I am not impressed with the Genetic Groups. In fact I have learned more information about my ancestry by studying Genetic Groups NOT assigned to me (i.e., Puerto Ricans and Portuguese and Spaniards in Cuba) and learning about the migration patterns during certain periods. Now, I know why I match a few people in Venezuela and Colombia because Puerto Ricans were there! I Also, the few Cubans I match do match my more distant Portuguese matches currently living in Portugal. Now I understand why my few Cuban matches match some of my Portuguese matches. Lastly, I don’t understand why Puerto Rico Genetic Group was not assigned to me and I match many of them on different chromosomes. Instead Dominican Republic Genetic Group was assigned to me.
First, way to go building your family tree and studying history. To be honest, I'm not a fan of the genetic groups for anything other than *potential* clues to research when we get stuck. However, the reliability of results always depends on the number of people in the reference populations. Most places in the Western Hemisphere (Portugal, Puerto Rico, etc) do not have reference populations because of the amount of migration and intermixing of races in one location. (It's the same reason USA is not a reference population). It's no surprise that you wouldn't have Cuba and Puerto Rico but rather Spain and Portugal.
However, genetic groups take into account reference populations and family trees of MyHeritage users. Since few people outside of Israel, US, UK, and Canada have participated in building their family trees and taking DNA tests, the genetic group recommendations s are quite small or non-existent for those areas. Your best bet is to see if you can invite more people to test from your ancestral heritage. And, wait for more people to test and the groups to improve.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics Just read your reply. My brother was assigned to a Portuguese group but I wasn’t even though we have the same Portuguese matches! The same came be said about the DR genetic group (i.e., my brother wasn’t assigned to this group but I was!).
My only genetic group is from Austria
That's not a surprise right now.
The number of individuals in the reference population for Middle and Eastern Europe is extremely small. Thus, MyHeritage (and other platforms) can reliably tell you tone group from Austria.
For that to change, an increase in participation in DNA testing by others from Middle and Eastern Europe must increase for any DNA testing company to improve their results. Also more Middle and Eastern Europe people willing to take a DNA who can document their ancestors to their 4 grandparents (who all lived in the same location) can be added to the reference population which will also impact the ethnicity results.
Cornwall is not England. I identify as Sea People. My mother is Rb2, my dad is Rb2, my father is Ip-109
Huh? My people are from Cornwall and they have said they were English as far back as the 1820s.
My groups are sad. I have 9 and all but 1 are in the US. The 1 not in the US is only " UK and their descendants in the US". Firstly, my great grandpa was Italian. Then my 2nd great grandpa was from Slovenia and his wife from Switzerland. My surname is German, Witt. I got none of these communities in Europe.
Whenever you're results are less than what you expected the chances are that the reference populations that your sample was compared to are not robust enough. I discuss this in my foundational video about ethnicity results ruclips.net/video/ScZtHuU78n4/видео.html
Im totally dissapointed. Unlike me you have way better results. I am not so happy about my myheritage results,I think the system made a mistake, because i got nothing specific just very large areas.. I only have one genetic groups..kreols in louisiana with low rate. Lol
Not everyone will get great results, so I can understand your disappointment. You're not alone. Ask my wife.
Take ethnicity results with a grain of salt and search for cousin matches and build your family tree. That is where the value in genetic DNA testing is.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics Yeah. Sadly I dont like myheritage. Not because i dont like the results, because i like... Just nothing specific, very great areas,almost nothing genetic groups... I have a picture in my head where i came from because of the "far relatives with (middle and low estimate) that i have seen" but after the results i would not say it worthed the money. Unlike you for example if i got a result like your results. yeah i would be happy :D
I dont know what to say about this but for me this is a bunch of bullcr*p
I`m a member of MyHeritage and this DNA Genetic groups is totally wrong for me.
firstly me and my sister have totally different Genetic groups she is my full sister and i mean really TOTALLY different
Secondly i traced back my ancestors from my fathers side until around 1629 (nearly 400 years) and my family always lived in the state of Friesland in the Netherlands we are Frisian.
But according to MyHeritage my ancestors came from many places in the Netherlands but not so much from Friesland they even put there minor chance they came from Friesland.
About 1 month ago i mail to MyHeritage with this problem and an other problem that i have but until today they never reply me.
I took membership for 1 year but i dont think i ever renew it
Your problem stems from the fact that are not enough persons in the reference database for the Netherlands, and your specific area within the state. We've said repeatedly on this channel regarding ethnicity results...
They're great at a continental level. They're not so great at a smaller level.
Finally, it's not unusual for siblings to have different ethnicity results. I have five children from the same man. I can confirm they are our children because they have nearly the same DNA matches as each other (with a few variations with distant cousins.) Each of those children has different ethnicity results. The results aren't extremely far off, but some inherited more of my wife's German ancestry while others are more British like me.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics I get what you are saying but in my case i disagree with you. firstly you say not enough people to reference in the data base for the Netherlands. I disagree with that i feel many people in the Netherlands are now doing this family research. Further more if not enough people to give me a clear result that only confirms for my case i was right you can not take it seriously as like you say there are in your eyes not enough people to give a clear result.
An other thing i don't understand is you say you have 5 children of the same man and some of your children inherited more from your wife`s German side. So who are you in this relationship the man or the woman (confused) ? Now about my case i know and understand i will not be exactly the same as my sister. yes we do have a DNA match of fully brother and sister but the ethnicity is really far apart between us. And i`m not only talking about how many percent this or that but total different regions. By now i also let my mother do the test and with her it is the same again. yes by DNA she is both my sister and me our mother but the ethnicity she got is different again and again its not so much the percent but the region. i was so surprised that i even mailed to myheritage to ask if the sample maybe was contaminated in the lab. but as answer they said the results are ok and contamination can be ruled out.
You forgot South Africa, somehow
Blame the British for immigrating to all parts of the world.
Myheritage denies me my southern Italian heritage and any mediterranean heritage at all while giving my son 12 percent Latino and my great uncle who is on my side of the family with ALL the southern european has 49 percent Southern Italian as well as his sister, my grandmother. Even 23andme changed the dna heritages and took all my italian away (which even had the correct locations in Italy). The new stuff is bull crap and absolutely inaccurate.
There is no such thing as Latino. You mean Iberians. They are Europeans who encompass the Iberian peninsula, southern France and Southern Italy including Sicily, Corsica and Sardinia. Also parts of North Africa and Sephardic Jews.
It's not necessarily garbage but as you see it's not completely accurate. The reason for it relates back to the number of people in the Italian and Mediterranean reference population that your DNA is compared to is extremely small. If people in that group increase, it is likely that you'll see the ethnicity percentages you expected to increase. This video explains the concept. ruclips.net/video/ScZtHuU78n4/видео.html
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics Thank you!
Cornish people are not English the DNA is Celtic
Many English are Celtic to a large extent to, especially considering huge Irish immigration since 19th century
Kate S I am English, but a lot of my DNA is Irish, ( 35%)my Great Grandparents were Irish, as a lot of Northern English have some form of Irish decent, also my wife’s side of the family is Irish, we followed our family trees back back to small villages in Southern Ireland and happened to be about 50 miles apart, the other side of my family is from Yorkshire a small town called borough-bridge, so interesting.
I'm not going to weigh in on that battle. I already have one going on about whether Finland is part of Scandinavia.
Why, there are some regions which are not classified in myheritage etc. like north asia, siberia? Also I find too generalised those classification regions and there are more than one classification in some regions. What does it mean if we look at regional comparisons? I think some groups are intentionally added for specific subgroups, but this idea is so divergent from classification methodology. Maybe money of elite subgroups talked... 🤔🫢🤫