(Civ 6) Restart IMMEDIATELY When You See These 5 Civs In Civilization 6 || Tips For Civilization 6
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- Civ 6 has leaders that are bad to start next to in civilization 6. This civ 6 video will show the top 5 worst leaders to start next to in civilization 6. Which civ 6 leaders are the worst in civilization 6 to start next to? Find out in tis civ vi video by thecivlifer in the latest installment of the civilization series in civilization VI
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00:00 Intro
00:33 The Aztecs
02:20 Vietnam
04:20 Babylon
06:20 69% Nice
06:32 Rome
08:18 Mongolia (Genghis Khan)
10:16 BONUS Civ (You'll Never Guess Who It Is) 
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Persians: declares Suprise war on you
You: scared and thinking restarting game
Gilgamesh (Gigachad friend): declaring friends Suprise war is BETA move. Declares war to Persians
After you and Gilgamesh won the war You live happily forever END.
a masterful story I teared up
What a glorious tale
This legitimately happens to me in one of my plays. I was basil II and have fewer troops at the beginning and i was adjoining with india chandragupta (the beta who hates being close to anyone). The fucker declare surprise war against me despite being friends. From the other side i have Alexander and Gilgamesh, this one declare other war and denounce betadrangupta. Alexander helped me just after given him some money and horses.
We won the war and wipe out betadrangupta.
I will be in forever thankfull with the greatest alpha friend Gilgamesh.
Yep, if gilgamesh, tomyris, Wilfred, poundmaker, or even alexander (if he doesnt start near you), are in game consider yourself blessed. They end up becoming powerful allies for most of the game esp alexander as you dont have to be the one declaring wars for him to like you. And of course gilgabro due to insta friend.
Thanks to FGO snd Final Fantasy I smile every time I hear Gilgamesh
Until he’s angry with me
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The amount of times I've seen ridiculous barbarians and thought to myself "Babylon's on this map somewhere" - Hammurabi also forces the eras to always end at their earliest opportunity which can mess with my era score management
Honestly it doesn't even matter I've seen Men At Arms at turn like 50 to 70 even just on immortal without Hammurabi in the game, barbarians are just fucked
>Loads game
>Finds Barb camp
>They spawn Hypaspits
>Welp
One of thing annoying about facing the Romans is the All Roads lead to Rome bonus for Trajan as it allows him to move his troops easily throughout his cities within trade route range of the capital. Which means he can spread his Legions out quickly. These trade routes also provide enough gold for a player (If one is playing as Trajan) to use to purchase joint war and troops. Said troops can then be spread out with the trade routes that are got for free.
I would like to mention Egypt as an honorable mention. While the Maryannu Chariot Archers are garbage to the player, to the AI who can cheat on production and gold, they can get 4-5 roaming about by turn 30 especially on Deity. And since Egypt agenda wants you to have a higher military score, that is going to be near impossible and so an angry Egypt will rush you with a slightly weaker but more mobile version of crossbowmans which is an instant restart. I do not know if anyone has every experienced starting next to Egypt but they are genuinely the worst.
thats a good point tbh. That probably replaces them with babylon honestly
Hmmm I mean ye....but actually no. Egypts +2 food bonus to traders is REALLY nice all the way b4 democracy. I specifically go out of my my way to seed her in my games hope she starts near me.
Oh
Now I understand
Completely agree. Cleo is the worst if you want to settler spam. You have no choice but to fend her off with archers and clubbers.
Isn't Egypt free cities with wonders?
I would like to shout out Gaul here as another absolute nightmare of a neighbor. On higher difficulties the AI has the production to spam out tons of Gaesaetae, and with Gaul's combat bonuses they are tough as hell to deal with. And his agenda is that he dislikes those with less military than him, so he WILL hate your guts in the early game.
And even if you survive the Gaesaetae zerg rush and turn it around, the fact that he gets Oppidums can make invading his territory almost impossible.
And as a bonus he has a less severe version of the Babylon barbarian problem, as he can get apprenticeship (and thus men-at-arms) super early.
The thing that makes Rome not QUITE so bad is that you can settler-steal from them. A Lot.
The thing that makes Mongolia even worse than you described is the poor implementation of unit classes - It's supposed to be like rock/paper/scissors: melee>anti-cav, anti-cav>cavalry, cavalry>melee. But the anti-cav can't fulfill their purpose. The +10 bonus just covers the difference in base strength (it used to be only on defense which made them completely pointless, the cavalry just fought around them) and more importantly, they can't catch them for the kill. Ranged can be kind of effective against other civ's cavalry if you can set a trap for multiple first strikes, but against Genghis and his strength bonus, they can still one-shot your ranged units even if you get first strike. So the only defense against cavalry is cavalry, especially against Genghis, and his are stronger than yours and you're building his army if he gets the kill. This also makes you quite often withdraw instead of getting the kill because he'd get a unit back by finishing yours. And all the while simply building up a cavalry defense against him encourages him to attack you.
My last game as pericles i spawned next to both Canada and babylon. I made 2 hoplites and saw the ranger and pike and shot in Babylons territory and immediately went to try being friends with both. I ended up winning by cheesing but still was bogus
Won my first Deity game from watching your vids. Lot's of helpful tips and strategies.
Glad to hear it!
7:59 😭😭 would make an amazing slogan
I love your calls to action to like and subscribe, just thrown right in the middle of the video willy-nilly. I laugh literally every time
lol appreciate it
This one isn’t very strong but Wilhelmina ALWAYS attacks me early game
The one tip I have against babylon barbs is lead them to your capital. They cant take that one so you can hide an unit and try to hold. You can also have archers behind the city since they are really stupid
Good video, I appreciate you running the numbers for me, kinda makes me afraid to try deity lol
The NATO- Ukraine reference at 7:53 has really come full circle in the past week 😅
Dude, your commentary is pretty funny, haha. Keep up the good work!
Im not at deity level yet. Right now I can win on Emperor sometimes and consistently win at King. On my first immortal game now. I know its a far cry from Deity but the first time I played Emperor I started next to Rome and got whiped the f out lol. Eventually I learned how to balance military production a little bit in the early game. Your guides and tips help a lot though I try not to copy completely. Keep up the content mane!
Scythia is also a gigachad when it comes to cavalry. They get 2 horsemen instead of one and ai spawn them like no tomorrow
thats true but they seem to like you is you just stay peaceful
But they build their unique unit, so its about even
Thankfully if you see her very early in the game, you can just stay peaceful and she loves civs that dont backstab and then will go friendly provided you stay peaceful. Once she drops off later on is when you can do wars if you want a dom victory as most ai cannot scale to late game or stay peaceful and have her at your side the entire game, shes almost as good as gilgamesh esp if nearby.
Just won my first game on diety, I just started I'm a n00b, I spawned next to Canada though, and Egypt. Took out Canada, left Egypt alive and took the science victory. Couldn't have done it without ya, thanks for all the advice.
Very cool list, I wondered who all would show up.
I definitely try to give Vietnam the best friend treatment whenever she shows up. You lose soooo much time fighting her even if you win she has slowed you down so much that somebody else has gotten ahead or caught way back up.
This game can be super rough. I've had to pivot to a completely different victory type well after turn 100 just because of who all shows up to play. Like for example Vietnam in the middle of a domination game and she has most of her continent.
It's impressive how people can just basically pick a random civ and get a win on deity with what looks like no difficulty
At some points like this, I wish there was a way to put some civs to duel in a viewer mode. For example, Georgia with their walls against early dominating civs like Aztecs or Macedon. Viewer mode, because there are so many scenarios, I wouldn't bother to try to do them myself or online.
7:54 oh wow, uh yeah, wow
Lmfao that shit caught me off guard
Definitely concur with Aztecs. They dominate in every game I see them in. Last game they completely conquered or nearly conquered 5 entire civs. When I saw them rocking nuclear submarines when I still had Jongs (I was Indonesia) I knew they must have did some conquering. And eventually discovered how big their landmass was. Took the entire game to catch up in tech, eventually sent 4 loaded carriers a couple of GDR's (all I had Uranium for) and quite a few cruisers up against around 15 GDR's they were sporting. Pretty epic game, but I will say the AI is pretty bad at using GDR's, otherwise I would have been in trouble.
As for Rome, got lucky with them last time, they declared, but I managed to take them out before they got their Legions out.
I must have gotten really lucky when I spawned next to the Aztecs. Oh wait, I was playing Babylon. Irresistible force, meet immovable object!
Yeah if you are playing as probably the best civ in the game it's kind of up to you to lose 😅
Eagle warriors aren't so bad when you can have musket men semi easily in the ancient era as Babylon
Of course it's all kinda relative depending on the difficulty you are playing on too
I just absorbed Vietnam entirely by mid game on deity with Eleanor of France.
these civs are my favorite to spawn next too no cap, I turn the max turn on 250 and domination as the only victory then diety on Pangea; I then specifically choose these 5 civs then put the map on huge
That sounds fun tbh
You can usually hold of the AI preety well with archers. They are stupid and will chase any unit anywhere, so get a missionary and go on a tour for some time, staying close to them but not close enough for them to delete it
That’s a maryr
Or a masochist
XD
I played a game next to Canada. They had gotten 3 cities, I denounced them, waited, and systematically attacked their cities and razed them. In the end, they were reduced to a city state (only having Quebec). I wasn't losing, they just offered a very lucrative deal to not be decimated.
The thing about Vietnam is that she's opportunistic and will backstab you. She'll look all friendly but will not accept your friendship and will surprise war you.
Want a challenge? Play a one-city challenge with Rome in the game.
that would be tough tbh and the backstabbing may or may not be a part of her inclusion
Whats the challenge with a OCC with rome? You can defend one city preety easily
@@alex2005z Just that you can never make friends with them so they will be a thorn in your side the whole game. It's not insurmountable, just more difficult to have to constantly divert resources to deal with them. Plus since it's a 1CC you are very limited in your counterattacking options.
@@jyutzler you dont counter attack. But with 3 ranged units you are fine, especially since korea has their unique field cannon
@@alex2005z Never said Korea and your post doesn't address them nicking your traders.
And that’s why I still play on Prince 😅
Have you done a Tier List for the Heroes or Great people yet?
7:55 you knew Sadge Clap
Making a trade route with Canada is impossible because the lorry drivers making the route immediately protest and your civ's gold reserves get frozen
I once started next to a barbarian camp where I could hire eagle warriors, and for about 50 turns I unleashed my inner aztec.
Seeing a lot of stuff I don't have. I just have the basic game. What expansions or mods are you using to get the throne room "back fron civ2", the gov option, etc?? Thanks
4:21 Excuse meWUT
Gilgamesh, CHILL
XD
Mongolia almost always become my closest friend. Korea always insults me and attacks.
You forgot Macedon.
Turn 16: "Hi, I am Alex, have you heard of me?"
me: "fuuukk"
so thats why i suck in this Babylon was nearby and had all 3 city states declare war on me and had gunpowder meanwhile i was in the middle ages, also they spammed converters
The real question is, would babylon easily beat Mongolia?
Their unique unit, whole inherently weak, receives a MASSIVE anti cavalry bonus, while still being cheaper to produce than most units
The answer to Mongolia starting next to you is Gorgo and hoplites and you can make the culture kill dynamic work in your favor. Other than that, its bad news and a probable restart.
I would say Sweden. I've never had a civ declare suprise wars on me more than her. Macedon and Georgia are annoying too because you can't get war and walls that early in the game.
I only immediately restart if I spawn in and the first thing I see is desert or tundra.
Tundra and desert are so gross.
On paper Mongolia is terrifying but from my experience Mongolia's AI always shits the bed and doesn't do anything all game and is almost always really friendly towards me and if youre worried about him stealing your horse just uh dont build horses lol you know hes gonna throw 100 horses at you so just build like 3 pikes and hes fucked
Also I would definitely put Macedon and Persia on this list, Alexander is always flipping his hair at me and murdering literally every civ in the game in the classical era and Persian immortals are a pain in the ass to deal with and they will always instantly surprise war you
For some reason Australia's AI is always insanely aggressive every time I see them. They declare war on me, I beat them back, I take one or two cities away from them, make peace, and then every single time without fail they always call an emergency on me because I razed one city after they tried to invade me and everyone agrees Im the bad guy and the whole word wants to kill me bro Im playing France I just want to build wonders leave me fuck alone
ya hes acutally one of the better ais to get, i'd say his grandson is worse due to a more annoying angenda. Just dont build horses and if he does declare war, switch to the best anti cav unit you have. But as long as you dont build horses theres a better chance he will switch to friendly and then you get a very strong ally to protect you for most of the game while he falls behind due to going to war vs other ai.
I don’t agree you said that Babylon still needs production and gold to make advanced units. Especially on deity difficulty, ai esp Babylon can cheat production to make advanced units so fast in ancient era. If you spawn next to Babylon, it’s normal to see Babylon conquering city states with crossbows and pike and shots in ancient and classical era.
And if you take your sweet time Canada comes and takes a diplomatic victory while teaching everyone how to play hockey.
I find many civs annoying when im going for a culture victory but probably russia is the worst. Arabia and Spain are annoying religious civs because they love to stack religious combat modifiers. Teddy can be very annoying neighbor if on same continent, Elanor will loyalty pressure you, as will anyone that builds huge cities like khmer. Big cities also get high combat strength. I think some of the AI's are more annoying because of their behavior rather than their abilities, like Arabia and Spain, where you would think russia or ethiopia would be a more annoying religious neighbor, which they can still be annoying religious neighbors sure but its mainly just + faith income.
Don't forget Nubia with their damn archers and getting angry at you for not having enough districts...
Rome is spawning next o me like 80% of my games : '(
Such a pain in the ass.
What mode or mod is that palace thing you got next to quick deals?
thrones and palaces mod
for me, monoglia isnt really that bad as his agenda is he hates civs that build more horses then him and if he starts that close you will know right away and as long as you dont do horses he will evernutally go friendly and having him as friendly helps protect you so well esp if someone else declares war on you. The only time this might happen is if you are in the classical and you then meet him and then he sees your horse army forcing the denounce.
The worst ones I noticed is Rome like you stated, you must have more cities then him and since he gets 2 settlers and increased production ya lol. Hammurabi (babylon) due to him supercharging the barbs, he doesnt even have to attack you, just him existing makes barbs more annoying.
Seondeok (korea) shoots ahead in deity and then declares war on you when you cannot keep up esp with her boosted hacks in deity. Cyrus (persia) hates ppl that dont declare surprise wars which is suicide to do that early in the game esp vs him, if you can surivive long enough the world will hate him and wipe him out esp if he decalres war on you and you already are allied with good war civs, he'll get wiped out but starting near him oof. Pedro 2 (brazil) if you get too many great anything he declares war, so ya if you are playing good hes going to hate you so having him start near you gurantees later on you have to take him out.
couple other dishonorable mentions, kupe, hates those that chop or improve land so hes guranteed to hate you if you play properly i mean who wouldnt chop? and the only thing holding him back is if he doesnt start near you hes not as bad as he denounces you but if he does start close oof. Wilfred (canada like stated) cannot declare war on him without denouncement but if hes far away hes one of the best ais inthe game (easy ally and will to your aid every single time)
and monty isnt that bad, just sell him all your lux even if it will make your people unhappy, do it no matter what, and once he turns friendly you have a very op ally at least until the medival, anyone else who declares war on you must deal with you + him...hes a strong early game ally for sure like summeria or scythia if you can get them on your side to help with wars.
Yeah, I agree with your Mongolia take. I find that they are *incredibly* easy compared to many civs to get early friendship with. Even against an early aggro Mongolia, usually I find I simply have to survive 10 turns before being able to peace them out, and that gives you all the time in the world to prepare. This is why information is key. Build your early game scouts. That way you know who you are near. If you are near Mongolia, look for the most defensible position, forward settle it, prioritize boosting archery, masonry, and iron working, and get archers/walls/encampments. Now, you won't be able to complete all of those (and maybe 0-1) before the initial attack, so defense tactics to stall are paramount. But early on, 2 archers can hold a defensible position for a long time, especially the better you get at manipulating the AI into bad attacks. Use your scouts as distractions. Buy yourself a few turns. 2 archers plus walls and you should be fine. Get peace. Build an encampment forming a choke point. Now all attackers have to come into range of 4 ranged attacks per turn. This is easy to win. Mongolia is no longer a threat. They will friend you shortly afterward.
Defending against all of these civs is really about learning they are there early, understanding how to defeat or dissuade their aggression, and prioritizing a path that leads to that outcome. Don't be overly greedy. Against Korea, for instance, often early war is best. They rush their campuses, which have to go on hills. This means they often have little to no military, and they are using a production tile up in order to achieve that. So even when they get advanced units, if you have 3-4 archers and 2 -3 warriors, you rotate your tank units while focus firing their advanced tech unit. Korea will not have the production to pump out units quickly bc their tech scales faster than their production and the AI doesn't accommodate.
You exemplify this perfectly with your Aztec strategy. You understand the cause, you formulate a solution, and you execute it understanding the potential ancillary pitfalls. You deal with insufficient luxuries until you can defend yourself, at which point you basically have a free buffer between yourself and anyone who could get aggressive from that direction. Weakness into strength.
in my last game i went against Babilon, fker declare war on me and after 10 turns of him trowing his archers at me i saw 3 pike and shot, my chariots were like "nop" thx god i went for the twins for defense.
Lol I always make peace with aztec
I started the game as random civs...got aztec. Decided to play peacefu...and I'm already invading the nearest civ to oblivion
Well
It’s AZTEC
XD
1:15 you should have backed your weak warrior with your somewhat weak warrior since they most of the time can’t shoot over your units
good point
RR Teddy. He is aggressive and all his units are strong. He builds a lot more units than Montezuma does.
And his agenda is not liking other folks on his continent
So ... when do we get to see you play a game vs all these civs?
I see the Aztecs I immediately gameplan to kill the Aztecs
Honorable mention, Cleopatra. She hates you if you have less military than her, and she spams military because good agenda game design (fr why does a Diplo civ spam units so hard) she's not as bad as any of these because no bonuses, but she will warrior spam you, no preventing it.
The only thing I can say is: How do you have the civ2 palace building mechanic in civ 6?
thrones and palaces mod
Wish the ai would stop leaving settlers unescorted.
Lol Ukraine reference. Oof! Love the vids
How about Poland? they always staring wars without denouncing
4:20 !!! 9-11
Ngl I find the only problem with babylon are the barbarians. But with the clans mod you can just pay them off
ye but its way too expensive especially if there are multiple
@@TheCivLifeR if you keep it under control you can buy their units and commit some murder tho
If you have a temple somewhere, flip the script by buying apostles until you get Heathen Conversion. You can get a serious army in no time.
Tell me you’re bad at the game without telling me you’re bad at the game.
Aztecs more like the Asstecs
Chandragupta. He WILL attack you with Varu if you are his neighbor. You have been warned.
thats a fair point, but build some walls and youll be fine lol
Is there a way to ban a unit when creating a game? In my option the "giant death robots" are kinda childish and kill immersion for me
If you play on PC use "Remove GDR" mod. It is in the Steam workshop.
The Ukrainejoke aged well haha
Restarting the game, just because there are unpleasant opponents is something I did 20 years ago with Civ 1. A little bit childish to restart until you find a great start environment.
Childish? GTFO of here.
Ye, I play them out as a nopbie. (standard). Worst is no mountain spawns...so no science...and dead :P
And the very worst is the Barb spawns...those cavalry death balls. Holy hell!!!
I have won the game with Mongols as neighbours on deity lvl, playing Germany
Enjoy your diplomatic victory
@@thesausageman5388 I conquered all their cities
Get the twins and free army then on
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Me, I a civ playthrough where I'm a declared freind with both Vietnam and Brazil (in the classical era): bruh
The only civ in that game that isn't my freind is persia.
Got it on Switch
From DS CivRev
I
AM
LOST
First serious run I lost to Religious Victory
Excuse meWUT
Q_q
XD
lmao religious L's are pretty rough
@@TheCivLifeR forgot to mention I didn’t get a SINGLE Prophet the whole 230+ turns
austrlian seems to be the worse, no idea why but it seems to be
1St!
very noice
@@TheCivLifeR I have never done that and actually been first. I had to do it lol!
I still don't understand why people love Civ VI so much. It's just annoying on so many levels... I'm keeping it simple with Civ V.
Brazil as an AI is the only civ who is able to declare war when you haven’t even met the player. Worst civ.
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second!
noice
Ukraine isn’t a nato member
Wow, Deity only gives enemies +4 Combat Strength on PC?? That's it?? LOL
No wonder your ducking console version, they give +8 and the barbarians/ enemy Civ's Tech/Production moves 10× faster than your own.
really? That seems excessive af lol
@@TheCivLifeR Console version Deity is beyond broken. Almost every Deity playthrough I've done, barbarians have gotten +8 Man-at-arms n Privateers before I can Rush Swordsman.
I'd love to see you take on Deity on console, completely new, nightmarish experience where the deck is infinitely stacked against you
@@yujirohanma5199 wow, playing a strategy game on a console is quite an experience I would say
@@yujirohanma5199 is there any mod to play with those changes on pc? That seems fun
@@alex2005z idk I haven't played Civ6 on PC. I just remember the barbarians went harder than any other civ n everyone produces multiple troops/builders per city when they make them.
The Ukraine comment is sadly on point now.
Is it me man, or is civ after the renaissance era boring as fuck?
its been a problem since 4. The ai gets early bonuses and after you pass them (usually renaissance) you can do anything and win
@@TheCivLifeR Since 1 TBH.
I generally stop at round 250, as I can guess the ending. late game is just bombers that the AI can't counter, which is pointless
Unless you're Ukraine... 😅😔
That Ukraine comment didn't age well.