Can Sex Workers and Pastors Find Middle Ground? | Middle Ground
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Female pastor not laughing at any of their jokes is a MOOD
That baby's boutta be strict😂
Jhavay Yorke well depends on Daddy too :D
Oh! they were jokes?
My baby was conceived missionary in the dark...
@@HappySerafim Me too, I didn't noticed it at all.
The pastor’s passion toward his wife is goals.
Welcome to the life of what true love, devotion and marriage looks like
That is how I hear my husband describe me, and it is truly heart warning. We will be married 10 years in a couple of months, we married really young, I was 20 and he was 23, and we still act like when we were dating. I love it. I wish everyone could be in this type of marriage, with your Best friend, never a dull moment and always love to give each other.
Andra Karsten we were given the gift of love and sex to use it fruitfully is what I reckon with the right person, not extensively with random people
@@Abraxun Agree 🌺
@@Abraxun that is actually not true. It is exactly the other way round. I'll just say. Just like you did.
I’m the farthest thing from Christian but that bald pastor had my whole HEART. His answer about not prohibiting or disowning his child for their choices and his overall attitude had me tearing up.
@brinabrina Well then that pastor was definitely applying the teachings of Jesus in his life.
Somewaht me to
Whatssuo cheems
@@kbs1212 What the fk are talking about ?! Not disowning your child should be the bare minimum as a parent , you don't get praised for that !
Farthest?
Even though this series is called “middle ground,” the sex workers were seriously just pushing their views onto the pastors and didn’t even try to find a middle ground.
Exactly
They just smashed pastors' point of views
I disagree. The point of this show is to disagree, respectfully. And I think its in the right of the sex workers, being a misunderstood minority, to be a little sassy. Compared to some other episodes of Middle Ground(Satanists, or Trump supporters for example), I honestly think that what we saw here were genuine reactions to eachothers points of view, instead of one side pushing their opinions on others or being manipulative. This is just my perception, and it's totally cool if you don't think the same.
Especially when there’s Beyoncé with her sarcastic nuances. Yep, put a ring on it, girl. No, diss the poor Christian first, THEN put a ring on it
They live in an alternate reality, and try to hide from the fact majority of people see their job as degrading. A poop cleaner has 1000% more dignity than them.
Yeah because they're prostitutes and hookers
Props to the bald pastor for keeping cool after he was made fun of multiple times
Why fight back? You can only give what you believe is right that comes from your heart. This should be an example of not judging leaders of a church. I think this was a good example. Good for him. God continue to bless him and of course all other who dont know God.
At first they picked on him.
But he let them know real quick that they are unloading magazines while he hit bullseye with his first shot decades ago so jokes on them
@@ashes31 right*
Poor guy
The Man Himself he’s only been with one person he has no idea if he has hit a bullseye or not lol
I love how even the least religious people are like “we need to protect the bald pastor at all costs!”
That's what happens to true people.
Facts
I loved this too.
Jabari deRoux: More he’s just a very genuine wholesome guy he has his beliefs but that doesn’t make it ok for him to get ragged on about his lifestyle
I'm an atheist but appreciated the bald pastor lmao
As an atheist porn is super damaging and the porn industry is super messed up and props to the bald pastor
fax👏🏽
As a JW Christian I agree with you I read an article about the porn industry and it's sophistical data by found was just interesting from an informational point but horrifying from what I discovered
Your mileage may vary. And without a thick skin, this industry won’t be cut out for you.
@@PAJA63 what being with a "thick" skin have to do with that i don't want to be a freaking animal. i believe you can have a partner and share all your sexuality with him but it shouldn't come to the outside
@@shalevsaada7596 Thick skin is about enduring a rough workplace, where manipulations are rife, you have to guard your identity, learn to say no and be sure about you want. It can be rewarding for the right person.
When they were asked “would you not let your child do sex work” and the pastors walked up, the sex workers were just disrespectful towards their choice/opinion by saying “aw come on, really?”
I'm not religious, but that bald pastor's love toward his wife is amazing
LuKk and the way he’s talks about her sounds like he always makes sure she is comfortable and doesn’t try to harm her character, he seems super sweet
Studio Autio or he loves his wife, there’s a difference
Studio Autio you’re a virgin lol
Studio Autio a preacher gets more pussy than you
@Studio Autio theres is a difference between wanking off a streamer and loving a person that you actually love
but like the bald pastor was so respectful in how he stated his views. whenever he said something he made sure to let it be know that was his choice in his lifestyle and he’s not forcing that on anyone else
dumbass susie yes but sayori is the best girl
Annie Huang
JUST SAYORI JUST SAYORI
@@swesswe Which one is she?
Red Skittles
what? Sayori is a she...
@@swesswe idk which one Sayori is; I was just assuming she was bcs of the comment that mentioned her (referring to her as a girl.)
I might be bias because I am Christian, but I believe only having sex with one person is absolutely beautiful, not something to be teased about.
True.having sex with various different people can cause HIV.
i don't know why many people proud to have sex with many different people
That's the only thing that makes sense to me
The pregnant lady is a vibe. She takes everything in first and actually adds intellect to the conversation.
she is my friend and she isn't pregnant...
@@Random-sk6hm shes clearly pregnant
@@henrymonaghan6563 no she isn't she has a gastro condition so people sometimes think she's pregnant but she isnt
She also didn’t laugh at the immature jokes made at the expense of the bald pastor which is really nice from her
@@Random-sk6hm she's resting her hands on top of her belly like a pregnant woman would
The bald pastor is just a mature man.
How about we do not assume his sexual orientation. 2020. Just say that (he/him/his) potentially is mature. All that needs to be said.
Diego Payan your tripping bluhd
Diego Payan are you serious 😂
@@diegopayan6731 What does that mean
@Doll Steak oh ok
I'm atheist and I need to protect this bald pastor
GiDgie Twix06 yeah same here but difference is I am a Muslim lol I am shocked to see how those sex workers behave against that poor sweet man
right with you
Lol! Thank you mature funny atheist!
Lol
We all must, we live in a society
dude how nice it is to see all comments praising the christians for ONCE 😂
Right
Yeah
Its amazing. I thought it was going to be the other way round😅
@@saylorgrey1029 I was scared to read the comments at first
Yep, I'm not Christian but I'm absolutely on their side in this video. Although I will say Wesley conducted himself well on the other side!
The disrespect they showed the pastor is so disappointing
What did you expect from people who are living in willful and unabashed sin?
Gotta admit, the bald pastor was spittin straight facts
LeBron James - Father?
amen
Facts?
ofc
LMFAO you are delusional
I don’t think anyone should have to be ashamed of the fact that they’ve had sex with one person. The fact that they were laughing at him for that is honestly terrible to me.
Gotta understand they’re mindsets are very different from his in a bad way not saying they’re inferior to him but they don’t know what he knows but still this is Very true.
@Al B 9:45 onwards, they were literally saying that his 'penis hasn't socialized' enough. They talk about accepting newer ideas but make fun of people who stick to the old ways in which they are comfortable with.
It's so sad!!
what about me? the count stands at 0 rn 😂😭
@@Ale-hu8yo nothing to be ashamed of. Be proud of your virginity. Sex doesn't instantly make some better or cooler in any way.
I am a muslim. The pastor's thought is so similar with islam's principle, I encourage my christian and muslim brothers not to hate each other. Take love
I don't believe in religion but i do believe that there is something beyond us, beyond humanity like beings of higher dimension . So what am i?
@@whydoyouneedmyname6007 😄....Brother you're probably L 's successor. Near is waiting to meet you❣️.
I invite you to read Koran. Main book of religion: islam. If you find it disgusting, throw it into the wall. Allah is waiting for you💞
@@whydoyouneedmyname6007 agnostic i think... if ur asking what should u call urself
@@synth-_-5093 i see
@@Faisal-tx9ii i would consider becoming muslim just to have 5 wives🤠
“bald guy” “black lady” “asian guy” they have names yall😭🤚🏾
lol
Yeah😐
I never thought in my whole life I would heard a pastor say *"she's ready to party with my body"*
🤣🤣 I like him.
When we think we've seen it all lol😂😂😂😂
I want to give it a like but it's at 333
Lol, same.
hahaha yeah me too but its okay she owns him
@@o.b.9781 that's my AesTEticS
Me before watching this: I guess pastors are gonna insult sex workers.
Me after watching this: That's wierd flex.
Sunita Sharma *weird
Oh my god I had the same reaction
moom no it’s spelt “wriedadrs”
The vid threw a Uno reverse card
Sunita Sharma they did. and the “sex workers” just spoke their points of view
I like how everyone agrees with the pastors.
Not me. But I respect their opinions. As did those in the talk.
Makes me have more faith in humanity.
I find it really ironic how strong of a stance that the sex workers took on the topic of cheating, considering how many married/committed men or women paid them for sex.
My long term boyfriend whom I thought was perfect was one of those people. I thought he was truly perfect for me and I never would have seen it coming. Turns out he was cheating on me with prostitutes the entire time we were together. It destroyed my self esteem, and it was two years before I even began to feel better about myself through counselling and therapy.
That is also what is wrong with pornography. Porn depicts of cheating, adultery all the time, but do people watching porn at the time ever think "that is wrong"? Porn really do messes with your thinking and beliefs on what is right and what is wrong.
as said, there are not so nice people in every industry. you can't generalize and say "all porn/sex workers promote cheating!" because that'd be false.
Never place your value on the account of someone else. You value YOU. If they don't leave. When you have that mindset you will always seeks someone to see the value in you but since you don't value yourself that will be ZERO.
Not sure how the existence of people cheating makes that ironic. People cheat even without using sex workers, that doesn't make normal relationships ironic, does it?
@ghost robles Those men that cheated with the sex workers would've cheated either way. Don't blame it on them, the male is just as responsible if not more responsible cause he's going out of his way, finding them and paying for the sex.
I like that the pastor compared porn to alcoholism. It’s fine for other people. But not all people. And that’s fine.
Yeap, precisely
I thought he made a really good point with that.
I mean people can be addicted to porn, so he was 100% right about it.
Rae Navin I know that’s why I said I like the analogy. People can get addicted to drinking but most don’t. Almost all adults drink alcohol at some point or another. But the vast majority aren’t addicted. Just like porn. Most people watch it. Some people get addicted. Most people don’t.
Caitlyn Ford porn isn’t good period
Im an atheist but damn. why they gotta disrespect the pastors like that?
mcdonalds ikr
@Develop Robes oh damn that's deep
@@roberts9755 How about a little less anti-semitism?
@@roberts9755 douche
@@charlestai5320 How about a little less semitism?
Proud to be a Christian ❤️ .
My respect to Pastors 🤝
🤝🤝
Metoo 🙌
Amen brother
i love how he hypes up his wife that is the sweetest thing ever
It’s frustrating that the workers are almost making fun of pastors when the pastors are really trying to understand their point of view.
allisworld1isme exactly
allisworld1isme I didn’t see it that way I see that the workers are very energetic people and who are kinda just trying to enjoy that time and learn something new
@@naunofficial7766 yeah trying to enjoy their time, before they get aids.
Prostitutes*
justin why?. In Porn, You get tested before and after every sexual interaction.
Imagine going on RUclips clicking on this video and realizing that your pastor is in this video
*🅱️IG 🅱️RUHH MOMENT*
@@pussyslayer2295 🅱️RUH
@Ashley Guevara
Who is the anime chick in your profile?
On my gosh😂
Are one of these people your pastor?
I'm muslim and strongly agree with the pastor in his points ...
We muslims have a lot in common with christians when it comes to base values.
I so loved when they found the word "prohibit" harsh. You may not agree with someone's choice, you may feel sad. That's ok that's your opinion/belief .
But to overpower your love or bond for that person is just walking backwards...
I don't think justifications for porn as a "sex education" tool is a good idea.
@@europeansocialdemocrat you high brother?
@@europeansocialdemocrat ...
@@chocomilkshake9750 the name says it all tbh
@@chocomilkshake9750 Idk but whatever he's on I want it.
@@andrew_li you don't believe in BLM?
why is that girl belittling everything the priest said?? it's okay to not want to have sex with more than one person LMAO i guess she doesn't know how to respect people and their beliefs
Pastor*
she belongs to the streets
@@Bigwaffel98 literally 😂
she was not belittling him she was having fun and the priest was to he wasn't afended in anyway the world would be so much better if they act like him and her i gues you cant respect people
There would've been a time people would say its okay to have sex with multiple people and now we say its okay to have sex with one person.... Look how the times have changed haha
I feel like the sex workers haven't thought about when they get older and their bodies aren't young and attractive anymore, will they still want to be in the industry or will they want to settle down and seek marriages and raise families.
Probably, most of them. Think of them as professional athletes. You do sometimes exhausting things for a living. Often on camera. There’s often a huge audience. Your career doesn’t last for life.
That's the downfall of sex work nobody wants to settle with you because of you're reputation and your audience fades away because you're aging
I just can't imagne these workers claiming they're teachers 🤣🤣
the sex workers seem like they are there to argue while the pastors are there to just have a conversation/debate
Hey there
@Develop Robes that got really depressing really fast
@Develop Robes I mean yee
@@spookzer16 I she'd a tear reading this
@Develop Robes No need to attack them like that bro
This comment section is giving me faith in humanity again.
Facts
Steven Foster fr
really? its absolutely destroying mine, so much hatred and disrespect, it's insane.
AllenQuatermain2de
Nah that’s in the other middle ground
@Kevin Nguyen notice how you have one like and they have 504? Maybe you are the one who's ruining sociey
I was waiting for the female pastor to speak, and when she did, it was so sophisticated, and I feel that she definitely put some of the disrespectful comments in their places.
As a sex worker, I’m embarrassed of how they responded to the prompts. Yet that is how many in the industry act sadly.
Why are you a sex worker?
I'd like to become one, but the industry is so toxic. Consumers and providers both alike. Almost all sex workers I've encountered have been like these ones, and it's sad.
@@saylorgrey1029 Most become sex workers either to enjoy providing for people or to just earn some cash. But there are many reasons why someone could become one.
The bald pastor was talking about himself only and his views, not really pushing them on other people. Notice how he always said MY or IN MY LIFE. It was kind of annoying how the sex workers kept attacking him like bro not everyone wants to be sexually adventurous
Exactly!
Exactly they acted like the others were attacking them for their work but they were being respectful. Unlike them who were bashing their religion like really..?🙄
agreed
HONESTLY
Yes this is very true, but I do want to point out that even though he said that, he also didn’t come up for the question that sex work can have positive effects. If it had been does sex work have a positive effect for YOU, than it would be a different story, idk. I think that they were very harsh Defineately, but the bald pastor could’ve been a little bit more explanatory-just saying lol.
i am a sex worker, and this is the first time i’ve watched a middle ground that i didn’t agree with the people i identify with.
I assume you mean you that you did not agree with the sex workers, correct? If so, what were the main points you disagreed with?
Hugo Quinonez mostly their awful attitude. it’s been a month since i’ve watched the video, i don’t remember all of the content in the video.
Savannah Lake thank god, I was hoping that sex workers weren’t all so rude and thoughtless over other people’s choices to live. Bravo and cheers!
How does it feel being a complete loser? I just wanted to know
@@AntiGenZandY - how's it feel to be a an instigative prick, "Humpflung"?
I love the pastors for staying true to their beliefs without putting anyone down who feels otherwise. We would have way less division in the world if everyone did it this way. Respect people's choices
The female pastor spoke like a queen. When she spoke, it was like the entire environment changed and took a split second to mind their manners.
They’re all just insulting the pastors and honestly I find it so disrespectful
I think that in any other context it would be considered disrespectfull, but in this context I find it ok, because that was topic of the conversation. Also they were very honest and I was glad they did and they were also smiling all time and hug each other at the end so I don't think pastors found themselves offended.
Milica Mihajlovic referring to the Bible as “that oooold book” and being passive aggressive and talking back to the bald priest every time he spoke, it’d call it disrespectful.
Just the sex workers right? I found the other 2 pastors respectfull
Well they are demonic
Name one insult they said; I don't remember them saying anything rude. I think they had a civil adult conversation.
I just wanna sit with this bald dude and talk about life
@Cog Gear that's not the only reason at all. Both the church and a considerable number of priests have done some bad, bad things over the years. Some not too long long ago.
Besides that, people outgrew religion because we have a much broader and scientific understanding of the world. There's no reason to believe in a God if not for therapeutic reasons. That's why I appreciate things like Buddhism a lot, it's more of a spiritual way of life than something based on blind faith.
@Cog Gear Well, everything you say can, is or either will be explained by science -except the existance of spirit and sould, which is debatle for its very nature.
I'm not saying there's no God, I'm just saying I don't believe in one. I'd rather trust someone who's giving us answers and making things work (like the very internet we are using to have this conversation) than some old book that tells us things are the way they are just because it works like that. I simply don't know if there's a God, but looking at this world it sure doesn't feel like it. There's too much bad, and not just amongst people.
@@glacio95 Hi, you are raising valid points, especially with regard to "all the bad happening in this world". You might wanna check Frank Turek and Ravi Zaccharias on YT. Both give an excellent explanation on why there is evil in this world and that it does not conflict with the existence of God, but rather confirms it. Basically what they say is that our ability to love and do good cannot exist without the possibility to chose to do evil. Love is all about free will. Have a nice day :)
@Joe McIlroy Yeah it's on my list ! I've always wondered whether it was worth it. Your feedback confirms it is. Thanks a lot !
@Joe McIlroy also, go check cold case christianity on YT if you don't know it yet !
The pastor is amazing... His wife is really lucky
I wish they would have talked about soul ties more. Especially for the pastor that had had previous partners.
Porn isn't realistic. If ur looking to porn for sexual education etc. then ur looking in the wrong place.
Wolfy 2001 exactly what i was thinking. both sides were reaching hard to make themselves look better
Wolfy 2001 That was a point the Sex workers were trying to make. There's no good alternative to porn because sex education doesn't dive deep enough. People want to learn more but can't unless they do it themselves or go to porn.
Yes
sksjdj sndh yes exactly
Well she did say that sometimes people just wanna talk about their sex life. Maybe they've got a problem (sex related), and honestly, who would be better to go to than one of them? I mean, they have plenty of experience, and they are still people, so they still have feelings (hopefully)
note how the bald pastor said “i feel like...” or “i think...” & was automatically met with something to tear down his religion.
Just because you say “I feel like“ or “I think“ doesn't make it automatically more respektful. There is a difference between saying “it's not something for me“ and “(I think) it is bad“. With the second one you are judging wether or not you include something like “I think“.
And when you are judging people doing stuff in mutual consent that for me is intolerance.
I didn't see how they went after his religion.
K. A. It’s not about being respectful. He said “i think” as to reference that it is his own personal opinion and not the teachings of his religion. There was no reason for them to go after his religion. And oh boy did they go after his religion.
@@rewangoda2900 saying things like "I feel like" or "i think" is actually proper, respectful communication, without pointing fingers. Hes saying that that those are HIS beliefs, hes not saying that they NEED to believe in the same thing.
K. A. He was not automatically judging someone by stating his beliefs, he was just putting his input.
Alyssa Rosexoxo
Well I guess, but what about saying “I think you should go die?”...🤷🏾♀️Idk who would say, but hey. You never know at this point.
I’m not really into religion, but if there was anyone I’d sit down with to pluck their brain it would definitely be the bald pastor. His passion for his faith and family is really next level. He’s definitely “God body” very down to earth guy.
Prn isn’t education, it’s entertainment.
Yeah...meth is also entertainment...but should you do it? No.
@@lyzh4288 exactly, prn shouldn’t be a thing either
@@opprrer3328 but then a lot of people would be jobless, porn should still be a thing since it supplies jobs and entertainment
@@ChuChu-rq3ht I still think it shouldn’t be a thing. Porn brings no help to society at all. The only ppl it «helps» are the horny ppl at home, with an addiction to it.
Yeah the workers earn money, but it’s not good money. Other than the people getting paid for it - there’s only bad sides to porn, and it’s unnecessary.
@@opprrer3328 i completely understand the bad effects of porn, but if you have an addiction to porn your to blame. i respect your point though
Can we all agree the pastors were all so nice and respectful, and seemed to want to learn more
Yessss🙌🏻🙌🏻
99% of the comments - "the bald pastor"
He do be talkin straight facts tho
this too
Other 1%: "that black girl"
He deserves the 99% tho lol
the lady pastor seems so genuinely lovely
Nobody is entitled to sex (or seeing sex for that matter) and the more this idea is perpetuated, the less self control people will have, and will assume entitlement to other peoples bodies.
Honestly the Pastors were much more reasonable, I agree with them 100%.
Exactly
I think the problem here is that pastors don't underestimate or talk down to sex workers (which they shouldn't) but the sex workers seem to look down on pastors. They tend to see their religious values and choices as not important. A person can believe whatever they want, and you may not be agree with them but you have to respect.
Elif Özdöner yes beautifully put.
completely agree, i said this in a comment earlier but it just has to do with the type of people that tend to go into these fields. the sex workers are bold, wild (not in a bad way), yolo people. And that's super fun. But that mindset blows up opinions a lot while the pastors are very conservative, modest people. They are taught to respect in that way more than the others have because they feel they have been more oppressed
exactly. Nobody should ever look down on anyone for anything that they've done, as a Christian I've been taught that only God can do that. Jesus spent most of his time with the 'unsavory' characters, like prostitutes, thieves, alcoholics, murderers, etc. We're all human, nobody's perfect and we all make mistakes, pastors and priests included.
"Let the one among you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her." John 8
Yes I agree with you that's a good point.
Elif Özdöner Thanks you
the black girl was so embarrassing to watch omg... set us back 500 years
LMAO FACTS
This went so better than I expected I love the respect and openness from the pastors 🤝🖤
honestly, porn is not a form of education.
EXACTLY
If it teaches you ways to have sex and how to use your body to give your partner pleasure, why not?
It’s not realistic of most sexual encounters & is often very exploitative. Most women don’t want to be with guy after guy on camera and be physically injured. It can send the wrong message to impressionable youth who are inexperienced. If this is their main sexual exposure it might send the message that this is normal and they should accept it even if they don’t want to. There are even “rape fantasy”, incestuous (where the “performers” act as though they’re related), and some where while it’s not pedophilic it’s made to look like at least some of the performers are too young (usually by choosing actors with a younger/less mature physique and having them dress young). I’m not necessarily saying ban porn or anything but admitting that the industry can be exploitative and damaging. Another concern is that since it’s highly unregulated there’s no way for the viewer to know if anyone in the video is being forced to do it, especially “amateur” videos and ones from countries with little to no government oversight. Most major US companies have at least some oversight to protect the workers but this might not be the case in say Mexico which has a lot of government corruption
Brady Casper because that's not education? It's nothing anyone needs to learn?
Brady Casper Most mainstream porn shows guys forcing their huge dicks and going in and out and the woman having huge orgasms in 5 minutes. That's definitely not how it works, and some guys even belive it and are surprised when their gf doesn't orgasm from penetration. Only about 20% of women can orgasm from penetration alone. And that's just an example.
My father was a porn addict. And I'll tell you right now.. the damage it did to my parent's marriage was insane.
😭
Wow I'm so sorry 😔😢😔
I hope God gives you the strength to make it🙏
@@daboydudus3912 his name is lucid ?
@@magicslave3066 his youtube name is lucid or i am lucid
@@daboydudus3912 where is he
I really loved this one, everyone was respectful, they were cheering them up, it was wonderful
Pastors-1 sex workers-0
I’m not even Christian but the pastors were amazing.. real role models.
@@t0xtricity2 oh, my mistake 😅 thank you for correcting me! ♥️
@@girlwithapearlearring4522 You're welcome
Same
❤️❤️
Love hearing that the Christians are not being hated on tbh loll
The pastor that is pregnant was so elegant, and well spoken. She was not for the jokes.
@Pseudo- nymph no
Likening people having sex to wood glued together,... pseudo eloquent
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Only Jesus Christ is the way to Heaven and be saved from hell.
"But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."
Romans 5:8
"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 14:6
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"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." 1 John 5:7
yeah but that just means shes not open minded to a lot of things so shes not elegant for being quiet for most of the video. they all came in and signed up to have more open views and talk about theirs.
@@joannereder4772 No. She's quiet becos she is LISTENING and DIGESTING what others are saying. She don't ask the sex workers questions probably becos she accepted or understood what they were saying. If someone were close minded, he/she would try to continuously challenge the points made by others.
7:00- Christian values= Human values!
Porn is not sex education. Lotus was so unbelievably rude and disrespectful and I think the pastor should have called her out for it. Just because they disagree doesn't give her the right to be condescending and nasty and make cruel jokes. The conversation should be respectful.
I feel like she is acting that way because she fundamentally doesn't agree with her lifestyle or she has a lot of shame and is over compensating.
I feel really sorry for the person that said there is no enrichment besides porn. Like dude.
Cat Ross shows how far down in their addiction they are it’s so sad
That was in the context of, ‘media to explore sexuality’ tho. Were they wrong? A lot of people aren’t getting frank discussions of sex unless it’s dirty talk on-screen - and there’s pretty much nothing stepping in to talk about concerns of consent and honesty raised in this video.
@@Densoro there's books and tons of articles on how to how to have good sex.
Coomers are lost.
I'm dead at everyone calling him "Bald Pastor." The wise pastor has a name.😅
Kinda like how people were saying “black girl” or “asian guy” ??? They have names too.
@@OmarThePuppy probably easier to call them what they look like lmao
Omg hahahahaha
I don't remember a single one of their names. I can only remember:
Black chick
White sex worker girl
Male sex worker
Female pastor
Bald pastor
Asian guy
Buzzy is a pretty bad name tbh
I love these ones where everyone is actually laughing and being real humans with each other rather than arguing the entire time
I came here open minded and indifferent and left not liking the sex workers.
Lady in the colored paints, calm down a little, come back to earth... its okay to have your opinions, but don't be disrespectful to people who have a different opinion. The pastor was being respectful to her while she was being rude.
I was expecting the sex workers to be open minded and the pastors to be close minded... I grew up Christian and I absolutely respect both sides but the pastors were way more respectful and well spoken.
I also assumed that
Beca Coelho I totally agree
True
É verdade, mas os trabalhadores do sexo tem razão acho eu..
Os trabalhadores do sexo são mal-educados mais ils são importante.
The pastor’s wisdom was clear, lust takes control of the mind, I remember when I was addicted I used to have to literally, close my eyes and think about anything else in order to get rid of that lust. I didn’t want it, those are demons operating within you trying to have you leave God’s will, and lust is a high ranking spirit, dont let it control your mind.
I think that these videos are great at reminding us that we are all human period. So easy to judge and hate when we look at beliefs and sides of a debate but let's love no matter what.
Two of the workers just made fun of the bald pastor (who's actually an amazing guy that more pastors should try to be). So rude.
I know, right.
He was saying crazy stuff to be fair. I don't think they were being rude and they were just joking about it but like come on. Mr. "I Watch Porn And Think Women Should Be Taking Off Their Clothes Everywhere" had some iffy things to say.
yes
😂they did
It was all fun and games. Obviously the pastor didn’t take it to heart.
I was addicted to porn at such a young age and it is NOT positive. It warped me and caused mental issues. And they’re not talking about that. They dont want to be judged. That’s ok. But porn and lust is a problem that should be talked about
how did u stop the addiction?
im sorry you went through that. i hated how she said "kids and adults" need porn for education like no not kids?? it's genuinely traumatic for a kid to get into porn and can cause mental issues. i wish they talked about that more. i also wish they talked about sex trafficking and child trafficking and how sites like pornhub profit off of that.
Hannah Cochran how young?
it's not a problem but I agree it needs to be talked about but porn is like a drink its only bad if you let it because it fixed my marriage
@@lesnarahamilton5674 how in the hell did porn fix your marriage?
They didn't agree on everything but the mutual respect and the willing to listen to each other always blows my mind. I really love these conversations.
I love these videos, they are really eye opening and educational
Ironic how the people who complain the most about being judged are the most judgemental lol
Ikr
Sometimes, the best defence is attack.
They're being defensive in advance because sex workers are judged, demonized, even assaulted everyday
@@Michael5iLVEr sometimes. But 90% of the time it isn't. Does that mean Attacking violence with violence is the best defense? No! You want to show the other side and really open the eyes of new and young generations who will lead in the future.
@@SUPABOOOMB same things happen to Christians all the time...sadly
That pastor is an absolute queen for not laughing at any of their immature jokes
He and the other pastors are logical and reasonable but the rest not so much
Queen?? 🤔😌
i think you mean king but lol i gotchu
... Or maybe they meant the female pastor you guys??
All Pastors are King/Queen(s) 🤴👸
I’m agnostic but I agreed with the pastors.
These pastors are so balanced and level headed. This was a much healthier conversation than I could have ever imagined.
I am an atheist.
I’ve never thought I’d agree with pastors 😂😂
But these sex workers were making it so hard to listen to their side.
They were disrespectful and unwilling to listen... it was hard to watch and to understand them
Man I’m a Christian and I felt myself agreeing with the pornstars a lot more.
I feel like the darker woman was being disrespectful to the pastors and didnt allow them acknowledgement of their point of view.
@@tino1tony228 why didn't you just say black woman 😂😂
haha, same lol
@@mynamesoriginal idk i just felt like saying it that way 🤷
"By that ooooooooold book"
Show some respect men. The pastor is really trying not to judge you and is responding sincerely and all you do is disrespect a religion... shame
periodt.
alberto rivas- I agree with the pastors on this one
Yeah they starting to get under my nerves. They talk like middle school children, just so reckless and disruptive. At their age, its not cute.
@@SSBMA1994 ok boomer
but is an old book writed for an old civilization...
I love that this was civil, sometimes I have trouble watching the videos when things get out of hand. I could also resonate with both sides as a Christian and as someone who isn't against sex work. :)
I could have kept watching this for 16 hours, they had such fun group chemistry
Im not even religious anymore but damn these religious leaders were great.
@Reatile Mofolo People just think religion is outdated....
@Reatile Mofolo you are right and I agree with you, But I don't accept Jesus Christ as God or The son of God, because I'm a muslim not a christian.
Reatile Mofolo in my religion, God loves everyone so much that he gave his only son to forgive your sins (and mine) and let you into heaven no matter what. No matter how bad you were in life, he loves you too much to give you over to the devil
@@Alison-gc6gh i don't think religion is outdated, thats a view only liberals carry today because they believe they are sooo one with the world. I personally do believe their is a God and all, but I refuse to follow a religion where my natural homosexuality is seen as a sin and what will cause me to go to hell. I was raised in a very religious house and I still live in a very religious house, I think its hard for anyone who ever had some exposure to religion to just no longer be religious
@@freezingcoldcum5541 I can get into Homosexuality if you want, I Can't right away because I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings. That's how we are taught in Islam.
I felt that some of the sex workers were being a bit degrading towards the pastors. Like talking to them like they’re lesser than them. That just seems wrong to me.
How were they talking to them like they were lesser?
It seemed like a debate of ideas to me.
To me, saying that someone’s penis doesn’t know how to act is degrading. You’ll notice that the girl in the colorful pants talk down to the pastor in the blue shirt a lot. 92 other people agree with me but your opinion may be different. Yes, I did just bring in the amount of likes I have so come at me.
Amelia Reid Its doesn’t matter how many people agree or disagree, your opinion and The Best AME’s opinion are both valid.
Amelia Reid I think your being a bit patronising yourself, actually
Ellie Tomczynski it was a joke but ok also, it’s you’re
I love when he changed the word prohibit and they all, without hesitation walked forward. It was kinda cool to watch
the were all so cool, but especially pastor Eddie i thought was great cause he seemed to be very open with with the ones who seek his advice, and im all about being open and honest :)
this video was weird for me, because even though I'm an atheist and don't believe in god, the bald pastor was just right. I don't know, i expected the sex workers to be more mature and understanding but they really didn't care
I think with the things you have seen in this video you should take a brake and do some real self reflection
ikr, I hate how they relate the porn problems with religious shame, I'm agnostic and I don't like religions, but I have problems with porn wtf lmao
@@hjbvnmmbjjjkkk9957 how tf-
I know right.I get that they have different views on the subject, but why are those sex workers that disrespectful towards the bald pastor? What rubbs them the wrong way that induces that type of behavior?
@@hjbvnmmbjjjkkk9957 christian missionaries are literally everywhere damn
The pastors were incredible, they were so understanding and kind
I believe it's the Holy Spirit at work there sister ;)
I couldn't help but suppress my annoyance some times throughout the video, so still some time before I become a mature Follower of Christ
He connected swinging with cheating. Though he was trying, he was ignorant.
Females are not meant to be Pastors. God made them for other roles. God wants the male to be the leader.
@@Spyros_SP where in the hell did you hear that . Sarcasm? Idk anymore lmao
the opening part snatched my french hood.
I did not expect the amount of respect everyone would have for each other and the differing points of view omg how refreshing 🥺 I love them all 🥺
Why they be acting like sex is everything in life? It's not.
For real😂
I guess it is because its their career. And I guess the sex workers proud enough to come onto this discussion/video are going to be the ones most invested into this lifestyle.
Not trying to choose sides, but yeah I would think these particular sex workers would hold views that sex are a lot more impacting in their lives
@@stephenlaw8451 Sure, it's what they do in their everyday life's and impacts them a lot. But they talk about it and give the impression that sex is everything in this world. Like to be happy etc. Kinda disappointed cuz I know it's not something not needed. Its needed sure. But it's not everything. There's so much to do and see. It's like they have a point of a view and that's it. They dont change or accept anything else.
@@polyxenib8562 totally agree. I'm sure for the sex workers, their fulfillment stems largely from their career and how they are able to help their clients. However, this shouldn't excuse them for not trying to understand how another person's faith and lifestyle may grant this other person fulfillment. To say the least, I was also disappointed by the sex workers during this discussion.
@@stephenlaw8451 So true. You said everything I wanted to say and in better English! Yo thanks for this, yeah a career a person follows has a huge impact on their life. We can see this thorough the video. For both sides.
The pastors were kinda being attacked. This was less of a trying to find a middle ground and more of a here’s why I’m right, and I’m going to convince you that I’m right...
Facts!!! I was really mad
I totally agree !!
Exactly.. you would think it be the other way around based on people's assumptions.. nope the pastors were there listening calmly and answering in a proper manner. The women pastor and the bald pastor definitely were on my top list. Beautiful answers in my opinion.
Yes, they were being attacked but they were being attacked from a place of ignorance. The only respectful sex worker was the guy. And the only true pastor was the bald guy. Hes a man that kept saying again, you can disagree with me and my standard, but this is the standard I've chosen to live by. Referring to the bible. Meaning, it's not about opinions, it's not about what feels good, it's not about being right or nice in societies eyes, it's that he has simply chosen to live his life according to the bible. And the bible is pretty clear in this specific subject. They all looked so happy to be there, honestly. And I LOVED that the lady pastor said when she was giving her opinion about the soul ties that it was just her opinion based on humanity and nothing to do with the bible. They were honestly pretty great pastors. Pastors that say it's not about what you think, but ground your faith in the bible so you dont have to question. All without sounding condescending(which I hope I'm not but probably am)
I don't see this as them being attacked. I thought both sides brought up points and I'm sure so much were left out it needs to be longer. I felt like by the end they all kinda understood not everything is for everyone and it's ok to believe in something you don't.
The opening was amazinggg
Makes me proud to be Christian💗..... The black girl needs to chill though