Did Women Save Gundam?

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  • Опубликовано: 12 мар 2022
  • Let's talk pretty boys and Mobile Suit Gundam.
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  • @Rondart
    @Rondart 6 месяцев назад +12

    Me watching Gundam and noticing the "pretty boy fanarts" on the internet:
    Teenager me: "Man the fujoshis are ew."
    Adult me: "Man the fujoshis were *right* ."

    • @EuropeanQoheleth
      @EuropeanQoheleth 3 месяца назад

      No they sure as hell weren't and the ocmment got pinned, ugh.

  • @calcium8347
    @calcium8347 2 года назад +136

    recruiting a boys love mangaka for your war drama mecha series is such a power play. mad respect to gundam for going above and beyond simple toy marketing.

    • @phoenixfritzinger9185
      @phoenixfritzinger9185 2 года назад +10

      I mean not the first time sunrise did that Code Geass came out a year before 00

  • @_GeneralMechanics_
    @_GeneralMechanics_ 2 года назад +29

    "Chicks dig giant robots." -MEGAS XLR was right!

  • @vustvaleo8068
    @vustvaleo8068 2 года назад +39

    not just Gundam, it is pretty much a mecha thing since the first mecha anime being made that is Tetsujin-28 where the term "shotacon" hailed from named after the protagonist Shotaro Kaneda because the female audience are attracted to him in a totally not creepy way, lol.

    • @Kepin151
      @Kepin151 2 года назад +7

      Not sure about "totally not creepy" part

    • @HenshinFanatic
      @HenshinFanatic 2 года назад

      According to modern western society, it's only creepy if done by a man who identifies with his biological sex.

    • @KhayJayArt
      @KhayJayArt Год назад

      Ew

  • @ProfDragonite
    @ProfDragonite 2 года назад +56

    Kamen Rider has a similar phenomenon. Kuuga gained some infamy for having women, especially mothers who had kids that were watching, tune in just to watch the main actor. This became known as the "Odagiri Effect", named after said actor. There's a reason most main Rider actors tend to be young, attractive men in their late teens/early 20's; it works.

    • @Ergeniz
      @Ergeniz 2 года назад +1

      I suppose my question then is: "Why are [Asian] females so attracted to the pretty boy archetype"? Why is the more muscular, traditional male look and bodytype that was more pervasive in the 80's not popular?

    • @gigabites809
      @gigabites809 2 года назад +14

      @@Ergeniz Because women don't tend to be interested in extremely muscular men that look like they took massively amount of testosterone pills. Me included, I like guys that tender and pleasing to look; especially when they have a feminine side, meaning that they can understand women.

    • @Ergeniz
      @Ergeniz 2 года назад +1

      @@gigabites809 You don't speak for all women, and that's not what I asked. If you're going to answer my question, I'd prefer you not strawman or exaggerate my position. I know people don't find extreme roid takers attractive.

    • @src175
      @src175 Год назад +5

      @@Ergeniz Dude, it's dudes who like muscles. Women are more ho hum about it.
      I get that's not the answer you want, but like, there's a reason gay guys were stereotypically muscular in like the 90s and early 2000s

    • @Ergeniz
      @Ergeniz Год назад +1

      @@src175 Its not about what I want, and I'm not interested in unsubstantiated opinions. There are actual studies indicating that men with moderate amount of muscle, larger bust size to waist ratio are considered attractive.

  • @NebLleb
    @NebLleb 2 года назад +45

    Admit it: The main reason Gundam Wing did so well amongst female viewers when it came out was because of its bishonen artstyle.

    • @AlexaRobin21
      @AlexaRobin21 Год назад +7

      And the high melodrama too. Wouldn't be out of place from Utena or Oneesama-e.

    • @krow5099
      @krow5099 15 дней назад

      @@AlexaRobin21Yes we showed up for the drama ready for a second dose 🥰🥰🥰

  • @danielcodoceo722
    @danielcodoceo722 2 года назад +24

    Is criminal that this video isn't longer. 10/10 I'll watch it again.
    It give you and inside of anime production that I personally don't see being discussed too much online.

  • @retroanimemike
    @retroanimemike 2 года назад +45

    Just gonna say if it wasn't for Kirk/Spock Star Trek never would have finished its original three season run, so basically Gundam having a fujoshi following just makes perfect sense! And why else would you pilot a space robot in your most extravagant parade uniform!

    • @phoenixfritzinger9185
      @phoenixfritzinger9185 2 года назад +10

      I remember finding a whole crate full of vintage spirk zines from like the 70’s-80’s in the attic of my aunts house once

    • @EuropeanQoheleth
      @EuropeanQoheleth 3 месяца назад +1

      That's what kept Star Trek going that long? ANother reason to hate Star Trek.

  • @byron2FZ
    @byron2FZ 7 месяцев назад +6

    Surprise! G-witch had both.

    • @exiagn0012
      @exiagn0012 3 месяца назад +4

      G-Witch more "girls love" content than "boys love"

  • @retroanimemike
    @retroanimemike 2 года назад +9

    Also anybody remember Umi no Toriton / Triton of the Sea? Just a 1972 anime series whose boy hero, in ancient Greek fashion, wears a short skirt. And its director was Yoshiyuki Tomino.

  • @Chaosic
    @Chaosic Год назад +6

    My first Gundam was Gundam Wing from Toonami in the 2000s,Gundam shows that have good themes both men and women can appreciate it.

  • @user-rc3cm1zv4j
    @user-rc3cm1zv4j 2 года назад +12

    I remember reading a study long time ago that showed that female otakus have stronger buying power than their male counterpart so there is that

  • @artfire28
    @artfire28 2 года назад +14

    This series started the boom of Gundam model kits in Philippines. Good times.

    • @abnerdoon4902
      @abnerdoon4902 2 года назад

      Which one?

    • @artfire28
      @artfire28 2 года назад +1

      @@abnerdoon4902 Wing

    • @abnerdoon4902
      @abnerdoon4902 2 года назад +1

      @@artfire28 ah I see, I got started with 00. But I only collected UC suits from the OYW.

  • @digipeeper
    @digipeeper 2 года назад +10

    Besides Saint Seiya, Shurato and Samurai Trooper promoted the Boy Band troop.
    Of course after the Nippon Sunrise success with Gundam Wing. Yuusha Dagwon would imitate the success.

    • @EnerKaizer
      @EnerKaizer 2 года назад +2

      In killing the Brave franchise...?

    • @MSTGamingTV
      @MSTGamingTV Год назад +1

      at least, it was followed by GaoGaiGar

  • @MrKaji010
    @MrKaji010 9 месяцев назад +2

    8:01 every time i see the Strike Gundam coming out of the fog it gives me chils plus the op.

  • @theturts9626
    @theturts9626 2 года назад +35

    >be me, guy
    > into Gundam
    > Bandai shifts to making Gundam appeal to women by making characters in the female gaze
    >now into Gundam and guys

    • @littlelw319
      @littlelw319 8 месяцев назад +1

      i don't know man.
      that's sounds GAY
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      i suppose me too

  • @hawkedarkwizart8924
    @hawkedarkwizart8924 2 года назад +8

    very interesting video! i sometimes like reading up on western fandom history in my free time, so gundam's female fans sparking the first big wave of interest in the series make an interesting parallel to housewives mailing around kirk/spock fanfic back in the star trek days and even saving the series from cancellation. two fundamental sci-fi series, still going strong to this day, most likely because they have such a broad appeal for all sorts of different fans.

  • @sphinnox
    @sphinnox 2 года назад +7

    Your channel is criminally underrated my dude, hope you blow up.

  • @littlelw319
    @littlelw319 8 месяцев назад +3

    get into Gundam by 00 here, now i understand why all the main cast is well too beautiful, as a kid i thought it was a bit weird with homoerotic energy emits from Tieria toward Lockon, but i didn't know about this sort of thing.

  • @ShinGoji1987Official
    @ShinGoji1987Official 2 года назад +46

    Very interesting I never knew women had such a interest/impact on Gundam and never really noticed the feminine design of the male characters. I always assumed it was just because of the Japanese design/culture or maybe because my favorite of the series is G-Gundam which had far more masculine features on their male characters, Domon Kasshu is a beast and his love Rain looked like Cutie Honey haha. Keep up the good work man

  • @catzilla5855
    @catzilla5855 2 года назад +10

    Amazing and informative, well produced content as always 👍
    Definitely didn't expect to see that Kamille pic lmao

  • @whositsnamewhatsitsname3269
    @whositsnamewhatsitsname3269 2 года назад +6

    Everyone just forgot Gundam AGE.
    Poor AGE...

    • @littlelw319
      @littlelw319 8 месяцев назад +3

      not really, Gundam AGE try to appeal to all age with Level 5 character design and rather tame in term of political stuff

  • @echoesvtuber
    @echoesvtuber Год назад +5

    Thanks for creating your video~ It was incredibly informative, which I appreciate.
    In regards to how women helped save Gundam, save is not quite the word I would use, as instead, it made Gundam more profitable. Rather than anime's and Gundam's typical demographic of male viewers, if you are able to appeal to both men and women, you overall able to make double the profit. For example, women who like anime generally prefer more relationship heavy (not just romances, but excellent chemistry between characters), dramas in order to be personally invested, story focused instead of just action, and also something easy on the eyes, and hot/handsome guys do exactly that. This is where the writing and doujins come from, as many women love writing fanfics to bring to life what they imagine and are inspired by what they watched, diverged from official canon. And also, women love shopping, so you can also include clothing collaborations, cute figures, acrylic stands, and other types of official goods as an incentive for women to spend on Gundam related merchanise besides the model kits. I personally am not a crazy fan of model kits, which my brother likes far more than I do, but I would buy anything that seems personally appealing. Even more so if it involves handsome/cool guys depending on their personality as well. Aha

    • @AlexaRobin21
      @AlexaRobin21 Год назад +1

      Oh hey, surprised to see you here.

  • @zetaruler
    @zetaruler 2 года назад +17

    I know there were plenty of other factors that lead to its poor ratings, but I can't help but notice one of the most poor performing Gundam series, After War Gundam X, has a much younger main character... Actually a lot of the series that didn't do well didn't have pretty boy leads like AGE, Victory, and G Gundam (to a lesser extent).Turn A didn't do too well despite having a feminine boy lead, though Loran's design isn't really bishonen, so maybe he didn't attract female viewers as much.

  • @filledvoid
    @filledvoid 2 года назад +6

    And it's funny that many men like cutsey idol and magical girl anime.

  • @ronin9288
    @ronin9288 2 года назад +4

    Flashbacks of me buying Wing VHS tapes from Suncoast...

  • @crusan0145
    @crusan0145 2 года назад +1

    Your channel deserve more views and recognition. Great job.

  • @reviathan3524
    @reviathan3524 2 года назад +7

    I wonder if the upcoming Gundam Witch from Mercury will be another Macross Delta. All girls cast.

    • @littlelw319
      @littlelw319 8 месяцев назад +2

      as much as i dislike Macross Delta, it DID NOT have an all girl cast.

  • @thefunnychiptuneman
    @thefunnychiptuneman 2 года назад +6

    i never knew how popular it was with females just wish more people watched mecha in genral

  • @Makoto03
    @Makoto03 2 года назад +2

    Great video on Gundam. :)

  • @Irrelevant402
    @Irrelevant402 2 года назад +6

    I was the weird kid. I did enjoy Gundam Wing but I liked the original MSG more when it aired on Toonami. I remember they pulled it off the air with like four episodes to go when 9/11 happened. I've rewatched Wing and it's pretty flawed but I'll never hate it. Had crushes on Sally, Une and Noin. Also didn't get the hate for Relena people online had for her.
    But oh lord it introduced me to the yaio fandom online lol! I mean Quatre and Trowa was one thing, I ship it, but Wufei and Heero!?

  • @SoraiaLMotta
    @SoraiaLMotta Год назад +3

    My gate opening to mecha genere and Gundam was Evangelion to have more themes and character conflict then just fighting shonen. I read Gundam wing manga and loved the comedy 4 koma at the end that push me to see Gundam wing anime.
    What I also like was the more respectful way that the female characters were treated than most other shonen that I had accesss at the time. And that's unfortunaly this trope of bad developed female characters continues in shonen until today.

  • @Luna832
    @Luna832 Год назад +9

    I am so exited for witch from mercury. I love the female mc and the mobile suits look amazing too. I kinda do hope that they go for a nice balance of drama and action. The animation looks so nice that I think the battle scenes could look amazing

  • @sazabi8187
    @sazabi8187 2 года назад +3

    Thank you, women.

  • @carlosaugustodinizgarcia3526
    @carlosaugustodinizgarcia3526 7 месяцев назад +1

    Gundam Wing took a lot from Sunrise's Samurai Troopers pretty boys protagonists.
    The irony was that they were not original too,but were inspired by Sai nt Seiya protagonists .

  • @arvisterumi55
    @arvisterumi55 2 года назад +2

    Didn't know anything about this video at all. Very interesting , but overall good video!

  • @maramba32
    @maramba32 Год назад +2

    Looking at witch of mercury… yea definitely, with some yuri

  • @nicodalusong149
    @nicodalusong149 2 года назад +13

    Man, Furusawa's line is incredibly annoying. Part of the draw of Gundam is how hard the science is in Gundam (save for the newtype stuff of course; also, not as hard as other shows that came after it but that's understandable). That's what Tomino aimed for. To ignore it is a slap in the face for the entirety of gundam. That's why Seed and Seed Destiny are labeled as "rule of cool" gundam shows and why they miss the mark with a number of folks despite their popularity.
    I'm not really sure what I am, but based on what I remember, I'm a science lover turned tokusatsu fan turned mecha fan. My first Gundam was Wing but at the very same time I was watching Voltes V and Daimos. My favorite was and still is Gundam X (Garrod amd Tiffa are tied with Kamille and Fa for second place for best couple in Gundam; First place goes to Seabook and Cecily/Kincade and Berah). Speaking of which, thank you for adding Human Touch as background music (One of the only fully english songs in any Gundam show). I'm currently the type of gundam fan who likes everything but also one who likes gundam for the science more than anything else.
    I already knew of the female fans being essentially the first gundam fans and so I wanted to see what other information I could gather in this video and I'm not disappointed. Good to know more regarding 00 since I didn't know any of that background stuff.

    • @Penbin123
      @Penbin123 2 года назад +2

      X is a really underrated show, I really loved it's world and it's sad yet uplifting message, too bad people bad then didn't appreciate it so the show didn't last that long.

    • @byron2FZ
      @byron2FZ 7 месяцев назад +3

      Seed absolutely still has its hard sci-fi traits. Gamma pulsed laser weapons. Mechs that are reliant on batteries since Fusion isn't available (unlike UC) and Fission is blocked. Etc. The ships even rely on "flip and burn" style manuevers to slow down from high speeds.
      Every Gundam Series has its conceits, where realistic science is downplayed in favour of strengthening science fiction elements, but I would say with Seed it is about equal to the UCs treatment.

  • @asmolblueberry
    @asmolblueberry 2 года назад +1

    I didn't know about a yaoi mangaka helping design the characters in 00 but I definitely see it, mostly in Lockon

  • @yusharider
    @yusharider 2 года назад +1

    Well would you look at that, a great video essay about gundam. I hope this isn't the last one you make.

  • @dotsdot5608
    @dotsdot5608 Год назад +1

    My first entry is Iron blooded. Still haven't gotten into to season 2 tho...

  • @kasaibouF29
    @kasaibouF29 2 года назад +1

    _"You get to look at women."_

  • @CeriugEniledam
    @CeriugEniledam 2 года назад +11

    Gundam Wing was my gateway into the franchise. However, I didn't like Gundam Seed and strayed away from it for almost a decade. Iron Blooded Orphans got me to watch the UC.

    • @kiryusannagi5171
      @kiryusannagi5171 2 года назад

      That's actually an odd way to get into UC ngl

    • @CeriugEniledam
      @CeriugEniledam 2 года назад

      @@kiryusannagi5171 Well, actually it got me back into the franchise. Memories of finishing Mobile Suit Gundam Assault on the PS1 with Sazabi got me to watch the UC, precisely. :p

    • @ORLY911
      @ORLY911 Год назад

      Might be worth revisiting sometime, the dub was pretty bad and they censored a lot so seeing the remaster in sub should be a far better experience. Destiny though only worth watching to witness a production team go to war with itself haha.

  • @randybutternubs1209
    @randybutternubs1209 2 года назад +1

    You called it on the next Gundam series having a female lead

  • @erikpearl6885
    @erikpearl6885 2 года назад +2

    I love your work! Do you mind if I share it to my TikTok and credit you? I understand any answer!

    • @Blunovain
      @Blunovain  2 года назад +1

      No problem. Feel free to share.

  • @alice989
    @alice989 Год назад +1

    I'm still salty that Seed and wing are so popular, that said I am glad the pretty boy tradition lasted through 00 and beyond (like hot damn Dylandy).

  • @ariathyf144
    @ariathyf144 Год назад +2

    G Seed design is a flop to me but Wing and 00 are really a hit.
    I have to give big props to the peoples who defined Wing pilots their personalities. They have distinct yet relatable attributes and not just looks that also complement each one, chemistry is what hit the girls.
    If the design have no substance or no purpose in the cast it is wasted material and screen time.

    • @HSE331
      @HSE331 Год назад +1

      SEED eclipses both in sales and will never be beaten and only a few Japanese anime have beaten it in sales.

  • @evagunpla7944
    @evagunpla7944 2 года назад +1

    Where can I find that remastered Gundam anime at 2:38 ?

    • @Blunovain
      @Blunovain  2 года назад +1

      Mobile Suit Gundam G40. It's available on RUclips.

  • @dhani08
    @dhani08 2 года назад +1

    Hey, don't forget the G Gundam's Rain😡. Best waifu #2. Because #1 is always Usami😚.

  • @henrynnn5366
    @henrynnn5366 2 года назад +1

    whats the song that starts at 10:42 ?

    • @androyus
      @androyus 2 года назад +2

      IIRC it's the instrumental version of *Orphans Namida* the ED song of *Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans*

  • @KyodaiKino
    @KyodaiKino 2 года назад +1

    RIP your recommendations. That bit got me good

  • @kamerondonaldson5976
    @kamerondonaldson5976 8 месяцев назад +1

    yes. specifically reccoa londe saved gundam by kissing scirocco's ass.

  • @exiagn0012
    @exiagn0012 3 месяца назад +2

    Tomino approved / pro lgbt gundam fan

    • @exiagn0012
      @exiagn0012 Месяц назад +1

      I can't deny that fact from the author himself

  • @Gettergettergetter
    @Gettergettergetter 2 года назад +3

    Ah nothing makes my birthday better than a new blunova video

  • @user-rc3cm1zv4j
    @user-rc3cm1zv4j 2 года назад +2

    My first gundam has to be wings when it was broadcased on spacetoon dubbed in Arabic

  • @alcyon7536
    @alcyon7536 2 года назад

    Bro this dude did not put a clip of astolfo within the first 10 seconds 😭😭

  • @BC21beats
    @BC21beats Год назад +1

    I always got a weird sus vibe from gundam 😐😐😐

  • @androyus
    @androyus 2 года назад +2

    Hmm....so pretty boys for Gundam TV shows = profit, huh? No wonder *Gundam AGE* flopped. Their male MCs are meh & child-like in comparison. The biggest fail that Bandai could've avoided 😂.

  • @Vetusomaru
    @Vetusomaru Год назад +2

    How many women are buying Gundam merchandise like Gunpla?
    Just because some Gundam shows attracted female audience it doesnt makes women the saviors of Gundam.

    • @Peasham
      @Peasham Год назад +4

      You say that as though it's definite that women don't buy Gunpla.
      A hint. They do.

    • @ORLY911
      @ORLY911 Год назад +3

      Of course they do, but it's unlikely they're even or exceeding boys in plamo sales, though I certainly always welcome more into the hobby regardless of the data.
      I think OPs point tho is even with gundam getting back on it's feet thanks to the female audience, without the model kit sales after it; it would have likely fallen again. 80's were a mecha renaissance and real robot and transforming toys was all the rage. Bad merch usually meant you were cancelled. It's not by some trick gunpla has bolstered Gundam so much today, it's kept it at the high production value and frequency most other franchises couldn't do (see: many anime franchises where new episodes have horrible animation). Your gunpla dollars really let bandai invest more into the shows.

    • @Peasham
      @Peasham Год назад +2

      @@ORLY911 To this day I cannot fathom the fact that Bandai refuses to make Figure-Rise kits of male Gundam characters, that shit would FLY off the shelves lmao

    • @ORLY911
      @ORLY911 Год назад +1

      @@Peasham Oh for sure, I know I myself would get a Heero and a Domon lol

    • @littlelw319
      @littlelw319 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@Peasham i think the suits might be afraid with "if we go full banking on BL will it really sell?" or at least they don't believe in that market just yet. my reason to believe this is just from the fact that they retcon Suletta and Miorine relationship after WFM ends.

  • @chasinthroughthedecade
    @chasinthroughthedecade 2 года назад +11

    I suppose THIS is how you cater to a female audience without making a huge fuss over it.
    Take notes, Western media.

    • @thomasffrench3639
      @thomasffrench3639 Год назад +2

      Well women in the east and west are pretty different.

    • @Peasham
      @Peasham Год назад +1

      Gundam absolutely made a huge fuss about it.

    • @ORLY911
      @ORLY911 Год назад +2

      Hm, how so? They never compromised their vision for anything, they were emboldened to keep on what they were doing thanks to the support. Unless ur referring to much more recent drama or something.

    • @Peasham
      @Peasham Год назад +2

      @@ORLY911 He's referring to the fact that he's upset that women keep getting prominent roles in media.

  • @yourpianobestie
    @yourpianobestie 2 года назад +2

    First

  • @gundam5281
    @gundam5281 2 года назад +4

    This video utterly fails to understand the Gundam franchise, hense its unpopularity and obscurity in the West.

    • @thomasffrench3639
      @thomasffrench3639 Год назад +4

      What is the reason why it was successful in Japan?

    • @nategray4989
      @nategray4989 Год назад

      Exactly bro the west never fully embraced gundam it was usually a hit or miss

  • @candide1065
    @candide1065 2 года назад +6

    But who gives an actual fck? Boys watch shoujo stuff and girls watch shonen stuff, so who cares?
    I've seen many videos from ani-tubers who tried really hard to justify (manly) anime with cringy headlines like "iS BerSerK aCTuALLy FoR WhAMEn (or is it sexist)?"
    People should just stop being cringy SJW's and make everything revolve around gender-politics and over-interprete things. Everybody can watch everything if they like or not if they don't like.

    • @chidaluokoro9104
      @chidaluokoro9104 2 года назад +18

      It's seem like you're the one trying to make this political my guy

    • @candide1065
      @candide1065 2 года назад +4

      @@chidaluokoro9104 Very deep analysis of my comment. Can you even read?

    • @chidaluokoro9104
      @chidaluokoro9104 2 года назад +11

      @@candide1065 yes and you're the one making political also you should watch the video first before commenting

    • @Lucy-cl2qk
      @Lucy-cl2qk 2 года назад +1

      dude you watch too much anti-sjw screaming neckbeards, get well soon

    • @Peasham
      @Peasham Год назад +3

      Ah yes, let's not make MOBILE SUIT GUNDAM about gender politics.
      Delusional.