I've never heard truer words spoken about working on stuff. "The perfectionist in you wants it to be perfect, but the realist in you wants to move on."
@@rosstheoliverman I've found for me that it applies even more with combines than with tractors. Combine fixing jobs are usually a "hurry up and get it in the field" kinda job. Then when you have time to fix it right you never actually want to 🤣
I've been there on my combine. Usually I have to force myself to fix stuff on it between beans and corn. I thought I did good last year but if I would have procrastinated one bering would have been more accessible cause the elevator would have been off then instead of earlier 😕
Hi Ross, I was hoping you could have got the 880 running. The three tractors dad had on the farm was all narrow front I've never drove a wide front end on the farm. On the 770 and 880s I do believe it's pretty rare to have a three-point hitch on them? Thanks Michael
The three point Hydra hitch seems to be even harder to find than the Power traction hitch. you’ll get to see a clip of it running in the next installment, the videos were getting kind of long so I ended up splitting it up
That carb was a real mess! Looking forward to seeing that tractor in operation. That will likely be my next purchase - either a 770 or 880. Of course, there are a ton more 770's.
Thanks John! It’s a pretty perfect twin to my 770. Power traction hitch and power booster. I think the power steering in this will make it a really nice tractor.
Some great info in here. And funny parts too! I didn't know Napa has a better version of the points kit. I'll have to check that out. I'm used to the cheap ones that fail in no time. Especially after sitting. Great video!
That set of pliers are cool! I’m have just bought a pair couple weeks ago and use them all the time. My 770 has a Marvel Shebler pretty simple to put kit in but your Zenith looks much more complicated. Keep the videos coming I look forward for them all the time. The 880 looks real straight and the tin looks good.
I've heard a lot of guys complain about Zenith carburetors. I have very little experience with them... However my experience has not been negative. I am eager to see your experience as this works its way along. I really want an 880, but I want a diesel. Just easier to keep things diesel since most other items I have are diesel.
I can tell you I already have that part filmed and it was not a pleasant experience. I ended up cobbling it together to get the tractor to test run, and then ordered the carburetor kit off the Internet which cost over $100. So we’ll see how the second round of rebuilding goes
@Ross the Oliver Man hmmmm. With that rust, it definitely looked like a challenge. I have had to get wire brushes for a dremel tool and clean carburetors before. I'm tempted to buy an ultrasonic cleaner from Hobo Freight to see how that works on carburetors. I hear they work well.
@@BillTheTractorMan "crazy d" channel (Kansas used tractor finder and seller) has a video on carburetor cleaning with the HF ultrasonic cleaner he bought-- positive review.
I went to check the valves on a JD 420 and realized I could not get to the crankshaft pulley without pulling off the radiator and shroud. I ended up having my 7 year old hold his thumb next to the plug hole and I put the tractor in road gear was able to push on the top-backside of the rear tire and got the engine to turn over. Set the lash, and did the procedure for the 2nd plug.
You couldn't help yourself could ya Ross😂😂😂 my 560 is in a more profound state then that. I'm waiting for the head to come back, but it has been hanging around here for a while it needed to be made, more better😉 keep up the good work 👍
That’s awesome, I just don’t know how to get them here cheaply. The guy did send along another set of fenders so I may be in good shape. I’ll let you know if these don’t work. Thanks Steve!
That is an excellent idea. I wish I had thought of it about seven videos ago. 😭😭😭 I’m telling you what’s coming up ahead is painful. I just today got the correct carburetor kit. You’ll see in the second video how I cobbled it up to get it to run, failed, and then in the third video you’ll see how I got it to run and drive about 500 feet. The correct carburetor kit for this particular carburetor was expensive over $100. Right now I’d like to take old Mr. zenith out behind the tavern and teach him a lesson about making more better fuel make it happeners.
I was wondering if Ross had another option 🤔 too bad he didn't seek it out. I know how maddening carbs can be. I had my 450 farmall go up in flames, had someone else rebuild the carb then I had to rebuild it again🤬🤬 Somedays I wonder🙄
@@rosstheoliverman We threw more Zenith carbs away than Zenith made. The pain in fixing them only to have them mess up again because of a speck of dirt before the customer used them for a while cost more than just getting a Marvel, putting it on, getting the shop space open again, and not having the customer complaining about some stupid finicky carb. The Marvel, even the farmer's grandson could make it right before they were 10 years old. Farmers liked to turn the main fuel jet and expect it to give results when the temps changed.
i have about quit messing with the ole truck an moved to tractors i do have an oliver 1650 a h international and a allis chambler an a couple of parts tractors😊
Oooh. I’ve never worked on a marine engine. My saying doesn’t really work. 12 is still too young, 46 is kind of old, but 53 isn’t any better…. I guess I’ll have to come up with a new way to remember it if I ever work on a boat 🤣
Those pliers look handy as hell but one thing I should really invest in is those magnetic trays. You know for preventing me from saying ooooooohhhh fffuuuddgge and then spending the rest of my evening with a bar of life boy in my mouth. The 880 looks like a nice tractor
Sometime when you at Walmart you can get your truck headlights restored for 30 dollars guarantee for a year if you drive at night makes a big difference my truck headlights are a lot better at night now
I thought of doing that. I guess I just don’t drive enough at night for that to be a real problem. Maybe someday if I get the truck painted I’ll think to do that
Ross Oliver company do think engineers build tractors made harder for farmers work tractors? And the way engineers build tractors was a bad idea? How many 880 tractors was made from year what think ? What was Oliver 880 use for? Thanks again answer my questions great job on video's keep up good work.
I think the engineers back in the day of this tractor had a much better understanding of what The equipment was actually being used for. I think most of those engineers probably grew up on a farm or around farms and that’s why things were so much more simple to work on. Today I think a lot of the engineers are just given the task of designing a component and they have no idea what the true end result is going to be and that’s why you have so much extra gadgetry and hard to get to things. I’m not exactly sure how many 880s were built, but I know around here you don’t see them very often. I’m not sure what this Tractor‘s job will be when I get it going but it would be able to do most anything as super 88 would do or even the 770
🚨🚨🚧🚧The low speed jet or port is plugged if it dose not run without choke .... The more choke it needs the bigger blockage, its not getting enough at low speed. same crappy 💩gasket material and the same F(squirrel👀)'n thing happened to me .... same gasket maker, me,. .... just a tiny little sliver of gasket worked its way into the low speed jet/port. Good cleaning 😉it will work perfect ..
If you’re talking about the camera angle, I never know which way to put it to make the most sense. It seems to me that it looks better if you’re looking down at it then looking up at it but I guess it’s more personal preference.
I've never heard truer words spoken about working on stuff. "The perfectionist in you wants it to be perfect, but the realist in you wants to move on."
It’s a balance between getting things done and making things perfect. The struggle is real
@@rosstheoliverman I've found for me that it applies even more with combines than with tractors. Combine fixing jobs are usually a "hurry up and get it in the field" kinda job. Then when you have time to fix it right you never actually want to 🤣
I've been there on my combine. Usually I have to force myself to fix stuff on it between beans and corn. I thought I did good last year but if I would have procrastinated one bering would have been more accessible cause the elevator would have been off then instead of earlier 😕
question what does your buddy plan on doing with the 1650 you traded him overhaul it or put another moter in it
Love the narrow front tractors.
I do too! My dad absolutely hates them. He said he spent enough time on one that he prefers wide fronts now 🤣
idi will spin it over, good video.
Thanks! I know it will run, I just need to get the carburetor situation in better shape
I've never messed with a Zenith either, usually a Marvel Schebler or Holley. I'll give a watch to the next part of this 880. Have a good day!
Looking good, Looking forward to part two.
Thanks Robert!
Hi Ross, I was hoping you could have got the 880 running. The three tractors dad had on the farm was all narrow front I've never drove a wide front end on the farm. On the 770 and 880s I do believe it's pretty rare to have a three-point hitch on them? Thanks Michael
The three point Hydra hitch seems to be even harder to find than the Power traction hitch. you’ll get to see a clip of it running in the next installment, the videos were getting kind of long so I ended up splitting it up
That carb was a real mess! Looking forward to seeing that tractor in operation. That will likely be my next purchase - either a 770 or 880. Of course, there are a ton more 770's.
Yeah, it’s putting up a pretty good fight! And it’s the same way here, there are more 770s than 880s to be found.
Nice straight 880 Ross! It has P/S, Power Booster Drive and three point hitch. That should make a great addition to your fleet.
Thanks John! It’s a pretty perfect twin to my 770. Power traction hitch and power booster. I think the power steering in this will make it a really nice tractor.
Some great info in here. And funny parts too! I didn't know Napa has a better version of the points kit. I'll have to check that out. I'm used to the cheap ones that fail in no time. Especially after sitting. Great video!
Thanks Jeff! Yes the Blue box line is better quality than the yellow
That set of pliers are cool! I’m have just bought a pair couple weeks ago and use them all the time. My 770 has a Marvel Shebler pretty simple to put kit in but your Zenith looks much more complicated. Keep the videos coming I look forward for them all the time. The 880 looks real straight and the tin looks good.
The 770 did have a Schebler. for some reason they decided to put a zenith on the 880. However it was a different model zenith than what is on here now
I've heard a lot of guys complain about Zenith carburetors. I have very little experience with them... However my experience has not been negative. I am eager to see your experience as this works its way along. I really want an 880, but I want a diesel. Just easier to keep things diesel since most other items I have are diesel.
I can tell you I already have that part filmed and it was not a pleasant experience. I ended up cobbling it together to get the tractor to test run, and then ordered the carburetor kit off the Internet which cost over $100. So we’ll see how the second round of rebuilding goes
@Ross the Oliver Man hmmmm. With that rust, it definitely looked like a challenge. I have had to get wire brushes for a dremel tool and clean carburetors before. I'm tempted to buy an ultrasonic cleaner from Hobo Freight to see how that works on carburetors. I hear they work well.
@@BillTheTractorMan "crazy d" channel (Kansas used tractor finder and seller) has a video on carburetor cleaning with the HF ultrasonic cleaner he bought-- positive review.
The 880 has good bones I think she'll be a nice one when you're done
Thanks John! I think it’s a solid machine
I heard it burb so it’s got potential 👍🏻✌️👋🇺🇸
It does have potential indeed. In the upcoming videos you will get to hear it run!
Well, your making some progress.
Slowly but surely!
great video
Thanks!
Great video. We had a 880 diesel. Hay taking fuell
Thanks! I’d love to have an 880 diesel but you just don’t see those around here very often.
Ross whats the name of the red handled Vise-Grip looking unit? I need to get one
I went to check the valves on a JD 420 and realized I could not get to the crankshaft pulley without pulling off the radiator and shroud. I ended up having my 7 year old hold his thumb next to the plug hole and I put the tractor in road gear was able to push on the top-backside of the rear tire and got the engine to turn over. Set the lash, and did the procedure for the 2nd plug.
Where there’s a will there’s a way!
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Thanks for watching!!
You could try soaking that carb in e85
Never tried that before but it might be worth a shot
I’ve never heard of the firing order like that before.😂🤣😅
That’s the way I learned many years ago 🤣
You couldn't help yourself could ya Ross😂😂😂 my 560 is in a more profound state then that. I'm waiting for the head to come back, but it has been hanging around here for a while it needed to be made, more better😉 keep up the good work 👍
Thanks Adam! I had to have it run so I knew how much I wanted to spend on it right now 🤣
Ross whats the name of the red handled Channel locks looking unit? I need to get one😊
I’m not sure what it’s official name is as it was sent to me by a viewer. It’s a Knipex brand
I have a real nice set of scripted fenders for that tractor if you want them
That’s awesome, I just don’t know how to get them here cheaply. The guy did send along another set of fenders so I may be in good shape. I’ll let you know if these don’t work. Thanks Steve!
Not all 6cyl have that firing order, newer foreign engines have screwed that up, don't ask how I know!!
😆 I should’ve added American I guess. 🤣🤣🤣
Take the marvel from the 1600 you bought and put it on there. Sure, the throttle arm is clocked wrong, but we're talking instant gratification here.
That is an excellent idea. I wish I had thought of it about seven videos ago. 😭😭😭 I’m telling you what’s coming up ahead is painful. I just today got the correct carburetor kit. You’ll see in the second video how I cobbled it up to get it to run, failed, and then in the third video you’ll see how I got it to run and drive about 500 feet. The correct carburetor kit for this particular carburetor was expensive over $100. Right now I’d like to take old Mr. zenith out behind the tavern and teach him a lesson about making more better fuel make it happeners.
I was wondering if Ross had another option 🤔 too bad he didn't seek it out. I know how maddening carbs can be. I had my 450 farmall go up in flames, had someone else rebuild the carb then I had to rebuild it again🤬🤬 Somedays I wonder🙄
@@rosstheoliverman I saw a video where some idiot in Michigan got his 880 running with his 1600 carburetor. I think it might work for you too.
@@rosstheoliverman We threw more Zenith carbs away than Zenith made. The pain in fixing them only to have them mess up again because of a speck of dirt before the customer used them for a while cost more than just getting a Marvel, putting it on, getting the shop space open again, and not having the customer complaining about some stupid finicky carb. The Marvel, even the farmer's grandson could make it right before they were 10 years old. Farmers liked to turn the main fuel jet and expect it to give results when the temps changed.
If it was good enough for an idiot, then it’s good enough for me.
i have about quit messing with the ole truck an moved to tractors i do have an oliver 1650 a h international and a allis chambler an a couple of parts tractors😊
Cool!
When that tractor made did it have a generator ?
Yes, it should have. However the alternator seems to fit in here quite nicely so it will probably stick around for a while at least
You put the coil on upside down, Oliver put the tower on the coil down from the factory.
Soak the carb in some evapo-rust.
I may do that but I also got the correct kit now so that will make a difference
I know that straight 6 cylinder marine engines commonly have the firing order 124653.
Oooh. I’ve never worked on a marine engine. My saying doesn’t really work. 12 is still too young, 46 is kind of old, but 53 isn’t any better…. I guess I’ll have to come up with a new way to remember it if I ever work on a boat 🤣
Those pliers look handy as hell but one thing I should really invest in is those magnetic trays. You know for preventing me from saying ooooooohhhh fffuuuddgge and then spending the rest of my evening with a bar of life boy in my mouth. The 880 looks like a nice tractor
I have bunches of those magnetic trays but they’re all full of stuff 🤣
I have to ask. Is the 880 basically a super 88 with new sheet metal/styling?
The early ones were, but the later ones had helical cut transmission gears.
Another great video!! Look forward to seeing the ole 880 run. Really enjoying the consistent new videos. 👍👍
Thanks! You’ll get to see it run in the next video a bit, but as usual, it’s a struggle 🤣
@@rosstheoliverman oh I have faith in you lol
Sometime when you at Walmart you can get your truck headlights restored for 30 dollars guarantee for a year if you drive at night makes a big difference my truck headlights are a lot better at night now
I thought of doing that. I guess I just don’t drive enough at night for that to be a real problem. Maybe someday if I get the truck painted I’ll think to do that
Would a 90 degree plug wire work any gooder on that plug behind the tube?
It might but I’ll probably just tweak it a bit. They’ll usually bend to 45°ish.
Gas or Diesel; they both have their issues.
So true
Ross Oliver company do think engineers build tractors made harder for farmers work tractors? And the way engineers build tractors was a bad idea? How many 880 tractors was made from year what think ? What was Oliver 880 use for? Thanks again answer my questions great job on video's keep up good work.
I think the engineers back in the day of this tractor had a much better understanding of what The equipment was actually being used for. I think most of those engineers probably grew up on a farm or around farms and that’s why things were so much more simple to work on. Today I think a lot of the engineers are just given the task of designing a component and they have no idea what the true end result is going to be and that’s why you have so much extra gadgetry and hard to get to things. I’m not exactly sure how many 880s were built, but I know around here you don’t see them very often. I’m not sure what this Tractor‘s job will be when I get it going but it would be able to do most anything as super 88 would do or even the 770
🚨🚨🚧🚧The low speed jet or port is plugged if it dose not run without choke .... The more choke it needs the bigger blockage, its not getting enough at low speed.
same crappy 💩gasket material and the same F(squirrel👀)'n thing happened to me .... same gasket maker, me,. .... just a tiny little sliver of gasket worked its way into the low speed jet/port. Good cleaning 😉it will work perfect ..
Thanks! I finally got the correct kit in the mail so I’m going to attempt to rebuild it one more time correctly
Do you have a link of where to get those pair of bolts to mount the carb. I need a pair for a 770 carb that got lost to time.
I went to my local auto parts store and they had some old ones still left over from years ago
1850 Oliver diesel, water in the oil, what is the most common cause of this
Napa use to sale just the spark plug wire ends and boots
Thanks Mark! I’ll have to look up and see in the catalog if I can find them
i been timing fords forever with just finger and never not work
Yup. Do it enough and you know about how far it needs to be
That probably had a Marvel Carburetor on it originally, right?
Strangely enough, no. For some reason on the 880 they used a zenith, however, not this model.
How many Oliver tractors does Ross need? All of them😂
Exactly.
If you have time the letter c l r if you can let it sit for a little while
I've never seen anybody used Upside down as much as you do
If you’re talking about the camera angle, I never know which way to put it to make the most sense. It seems to me that it looks better if you’re looking down at it then looking up at it but I guess it’s more personal preference.
@@rosstheoliverman Simple, put the shiny side up and the greasy side down.
🧑🏽🔧🚜👍👍
Thanks Tom!
Ross whats the name of the red handled Vise-Grip looking unit? I need to get one