DJI AIR 3S FLIGHT TIME IS DISAPPOINTING?!?! | Testing the battery on DJI's latest drone...

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  • @DJISupportGlobal
    @DJISupportGlobal 13 дней назад +8

    Hi there, we're sorry to hear about your feedback. The maximum flight time for the DJI Air 3S is 45 minutes. This is measured under specific conditions: the drone flies forward at a constant speed of 32.4 kph in a windless environment at sea level, with Obstacle Avoidance set to Brake, in photo mode, and from 100% battery to 0%. Please note that this data is for reference only. Always pay attention to the reminders in the app during your flight, as results may vary depending on environmental conditions, actual usage, and firmware version.

    • @EltecnicoWD
      @EltecnicoWD 13 дней назад +2

      Testing it like that can be considered legit? Nobody is going to fly this in a lab or windless conditions and for sure not down to 0% battery life when you dont even recommend that, so its kind of false advertisement and disingenuous, love your drones, but these tests are not at all correct. The Mini 4 Pro for example barely cracks 30 minutes with the inteligent PLUS battery, I can only imagine with standard batteries

    • @1Joker.FPV1
      @1Joker.FPV1 13 дней назад +1

      @@EltecnicoWDgreat response. I completely agree that DJI should advertise “real world” test data. They could really benefit by being more transparent with their customers. For instance, I recently did an update on my O3 Air unit and Goggles 3, about $700 spent on just these two pieces of gear, and all the update notes said were “various bug fixes”. Really?!?!?! How about the fix you did to ensure the G3’s reconnect to the O3 Air unit so I don’t lose me quad like many, many FPV pilots did over the last several months.

    • @benanderson4118
      @benanderson4118 13 дней назад +1

      Hovering requires more power because the props are in their own ring vortex. The 45 minutes comes at 32.4 kmh which keeps the drone out of the vortex without wasting power on unnecessary forward speed. Your tests all use more power than that. I regularly get 35 minutes flying how I want. So 45 minutes is accurate.

    • @TheDroneGeek
      @TheDroneGeek  12 дней назад

      Normally you'd be right. In the test I exceed 32.4kmh. Despite the vortexing that occurs while hovering, moving the drone beyond the optimal speed (~20mph or 32kmh) will absolutely require more power than hovering does. Period. While I varied my speeds in the flying portion, I picked up the pace beyond 20mph for a good portion of that flying segment, which would be beyond the optimal speed outlined by DJI. The results of test two (flight patterns) even yielded a shorter flight time despite the fact all other conditions were near equivalent and testing stopped at the same point.
      Bottom line. Nobody is flying the drone EXACTLY to the manufacturer's standards to achieve ideal flight times. Flight times will always vary, but I'd be interested to have you measure your flights and post a video of it so we can see you hit 35 minutes consistently.

    • @TheDroneGeek
      @TheDroneGeek  12 дней назад +1

      I appreciate the comment. This isn't to necessarily bash DJI for not achieving a true 45-minute flight time (in practical conditions, not test conditions), it's just an awareness piece to let people know that it's normal to not achieve the stated flight times because there are so many variables. That said, I would have loved to have seen batteries that could achieve closer to 40 minutes in flight. Overall I'm loving my Air 3S, just want to state the things I'm finding with the drone and share them with other interested people!
      Thank you for commenting and letting me know you care! This is why you guys are the best.

  • @vancuy
    @vancuy 4 дня назад

    Coming from DJI Air 2S, the 30-35 minute flying time is fantastic. I paid for 2 years of DJI care. This drone is more than what I need. Thanks, DJI, for an amazing product.

  • @JoshConnectMedia
    @JoshConnectMedia 12 дней назад +2

    On another level in the real world, I hardly ever fly to the least power of 10% or not even 15%. When I reach 20 or 30 I am right back on my way. Planning your shots could be useful though in the real world I mean. DJI kindly come out with real practical environment test

  • @MrRaymond1021
    @MrRaymond1021 12 дней назад +2

    I thought you did an awesome job with the testing, but maybe and IF you are going to try it again. Maybe try testing it at under 100'
    I'm not saying that you were wrong but maybe that's what DJI does. I don't know, but I'm almost sure they don't go above 100' when testing.
    Either way, you did an awesome job. Thanks for sharing. 👍👍👍

  • @dondupuis4007
    @dondupuis4007 13 дней назад +1

    Yep, that's DJI, learned to except it. Own Air 2, Air S2,mini 3, mini 4 pro.. Oh, Avata, none reach the time DJI publishes. Looking at S3 😊

  • @milvusotis
    @milvusotis 13 дней назад

    Nice test, thanks. However the difference between 20% and 10% are 3-4 minutes. Are this 3-4 minutes worth to go to 10%?

  • @dondupuis4007
    @dondupuis4007 13 дней назад +1

    No body runs DJI DOWN TO 10%, have to question why? , hope you reflect time at each percentage level.. You do great videos really enjoy them.

    • @EltecnicoWD
      @EltecnicoWD 11 дней назад

      Yeah, it damages the batteries, its funny they do their test and time averages including the battery run down to 0% which nobody will nor should do, so they should actually advertise the actual time we could fly before the drone wants to land itself... 10% should be the number, and not even that is very healthy, real-world numbers is about 30 minutes with the Intelligent PLUS battery (Mini 4 Pro, they say 45 minutes, no change)

  • @peacefulthrillseeker
    @peacefulthrillseeker 13 дней назад +2

    All the DJI drones suffer from this because as the batteries degrade over time so do your flight times unfortunately. It’s always good to have at least 3 batteries like bare minimum especially if your going from shoot to shoot. In my case, I have six batteries as well as my portable power station from Ecoflow( which I highly recommend for any commercial drone pilot). The weather is definitely a challenge both hot and cold climates. My issue here is the heat and how that can affect not only my batteries, but also my RC. I have both the RC pro and the regular RC and I’ve noticed that the RC taps out a lot sooner than the RC Pro due to heat. I wish the RC Pro wouldve had hot swappable battery feature but hopefully with the new mavic 4 line which will have the RC Pro 2 🙏👍🏽

  • @alexalex5257
    @alexalex5257 13 дней назад +2

    There are videos online of the Air 3S getting more than 40 minutes of flight time.

    • @TheDroneGeek
      @TheDroneGeek  13 дней назад

      Lucky them. Not here though.

    • @EltecnicoWD
      @EltecnicoWD 11 дней назад

      Receipts? Would be nice to see one and see how they did it, I did a flight test flying at different speeds in my channel, 30 minutes is unreal even with PLUS batteries in a Mini 4 Pro where they advertise 44

  • @DavidWilliams2125
    @DavidWilliams2125 13 дней назад +2

    I was asking the same question. My flight time has been around 30 minutes on average. DJI should not feel well saying 45 minutes you could expect.

    • @TheDroneGeek
      @TheDroneGeek  13 дней назад

      I get WHY they do it. The battery is capable of 45 minute flight times, so they're allowed to say it...but something a little less misleading to the consumer would be helpful! Kind of like their range specs...you know how they determine those? They take their test/prototype drone out to a dock in Shenzhen and they fly it out in a straight line from the dock until the drone loses signal. That's it. That's how they determine their range. xD

    • @EltecnicoWD
      @EltecnicoWD 11 дней назад

      @@TheDroneGeek The thing is that it creates INSTANT dissapointment the moment you get less than the time and range they advertise. So its a double-edged sword. At least that happened to me, I bought the Intelligent plus batteries which are expensive hoping for the at least 40 minutes, cant even get 30... DJI Mini 4 Pro.

  • @JasperEllens
    @JasperEllens 13 дней назад +1

    Allegedly the Neo battery efficiency improved with the latest firmware update. Maybe the air3s will too

    • @TheDroneGeek
      @TheDroneGeek  12 дней назад

      We can really only hope that they actually do something. 30 minutes is still really good, so I won't complain TOO much...but it is a far cry from the 45 minutes this drone was supposed to have been able to achieve. I'm not surprised, drones from ANY manufacturer will not live up to their spec'd out flight times -- but I did want something closer to 40 minutes from DJI on this one.

  • @gregb1599
    @gregb1599 11 дней назад

    Why do so many still not understand how a smart battery works? They are smart because they contain components that contain a BMS that tricks the display into saying the battery is at zero, while in reality, it still has at least 10% actual battery capacity to protect the battery. So next time you think you just charged the battery to 100% in reality it's more like 90% and when it's completely flat it's actually still at a minimum 10%

    • @TheDroneGeek
      @TheDroneGeek  11 дней назад

      Respectfully, none of that matters. You still should not run a battery down THAT low consistently. That's a great way to wear a battery out quickly at best and potentially damage the cells inside at worst. Smart or dumb, a battery is a battery. If you mishandle them, you're gonna have a bad time one way or another.
      Consider that DJI (and other manufacturers, DJI is not the only guilty party here) should take a page out of automotive manufacturers' books and recommend batteries be handled well-within the parameters for which they are spec'd out. You are still recommended by manufacturers and vehicle experts to replace oil every 3,000 to 7,000 miles in your automobile. Despite the fact most modern engine systems can handle 15,000+ miles before getting to a critical state. You manufacture the product to be mishandled, but you should still advise users to manage their equipment more regularly then critically necessary.

    • @gregb1599
      @gregb1599 11 дней назад

      @TheDroneGeek We have a $50k Kia EV6. it's a 2022 model, and the last service is still 100% battery health. The battery size is 77.3kwh gross, but only 74kwh is useable, so it's fully protected to over or under charge, just like any "smart" battery!

  • @dondupuis4007
    @dondupuis4007 13 дней назад +1

    Like the way you track battery..

  • @paradoxicalcat7173
    @paradoxicalcat7173 13 дней назад +1

    I'm aware that they measure down to zero in their tests, but I definitely expected maybe 5 minutes more than we actually get.
    10% of 45 minutes is 4.5 minutes, so at 10% we can expect to have been flying 40.5 minutes.
    32 minutes is still 8 minutes short of this.
    If we call it 15%, that is 6.75 minutes, or 6 minutes short.
    It's good, yes (I get about 10 minutes more than my M4P) but definitely not as much as I expected.

  • @ClarenceSteward-x7f
    @ClarenceSteward-x7f 12 дней назад +1

    I'm one of those people who wanna to see for myself.

  • @Sev51
    @Sev51 10 дней назад +1

    I agree. Great drones, a lot of stupid missinformation.
    Sometimes they do include "hover time" in their manuals which is better compared to their marketed flight time.
    But this AIR 3S has the WORSE manual I've seen, comparing to the AIR 3's!
    This drone might be a joke, a quick cash grab imo.
    Or just "let's test the funny lidar" scenario.

    • @Esonego
      @Esonego 8 дней назад

      If you look in the Air3 manual you can see how they did these tests:
      They turned APAS mode off (bypass) and set camera res 1080p 24fps, turning off video feed (I think).
      With this setup is could be possible to get better flight endurance.

  • @Mavic3803
    @Mavic3803 13 дней назад +1

    E' dal Mavic3 poi Air3 e ora Air3s che DJI dichiara i suoi 45 minuti di volo... 5 batterie Mavic, 7 batterie Air3 e 4 batterie Air3s...ma mai superato i 30/33 minuti atterrando al15%...cara DJI...bel test grazie!

  • @BrianKushner
    @BrianKushner 13 дней назад +1

    Yeah I get 20-24 minutes consistently. Seems less then the Air 3

    • @TheDroneGeek
      @TheDroneGeek  12 дней назад

      It does -- which I counted on because that's what we saw from the Mavic Air 2 to the Air 2S...but it wasn't as much as what I've experienced from the Air 3 to the Air 3S.

  • @JohnFSmitheugene
    @JohnFSmitheugene 3 дня назад

    You may be assessing the battery life a bit harshly. Let me share my own perspective. I have been comparing DJIs claimed battery performance to that of its real life performance ever since I started flying their products way back when the Phantom 4 was a brand new product. And, I’ve flown just about all in their “prosumer” line up (Mavics and ‘below’). So, at some point, I started subtracting 15-20% from their claimed battery life to have a realistic expectation of what my actual usable flight time would be. Your tests, which were operational in nature, rather than that of verifying their ideal spec (I used to be in the Test and Verification business), has more merit than you may realize. At the end of the day, the only thing that matters is how long it lasts in actual use. I don’t fault DJI for “overspeccing” (not really a word!) their batteries for 2 reasons: 1. They have to compete in a real world where all of the manufacturers are trying to gain advertising advantage, and 2. No matter what kind of quasi operationally based test that they would devise, it would *always* be different than that of any individual user. What didn’t your testing take into account? As examples, current draw variations, LiPo battery chemistry characteristics for these batteries, age and use history for each battery, to name just a few. But, in the end, if the manufacturer’s specifications were always accurate to the real world, we wouldn’t need RUclips, would we? Thanks for this video; well done!

  • @TheNorwegianDronePilot
    @TheNorwegianDronePilot 13 дней назад

    I have the 'DJI Mavic 3 Pro' drone. And the longest normal (as moving around) 'Flight Air Time' I have got is '30m 27s'. I had 12% battery left that time. So, if i had taken that to 5% (never taking the battery to anything lower than 5%), I would probably reach 34 minutes. And the 'DJI Mavic 3 Pro' drone have 43 minutes of flight time by DJI's specs.
    So, I think DJI is adding a flight time with some unnecessary sugar on top just to make it looks better. I think DJI should post the realistic flight time that everyone should expect as a normal consumer instead of adding flight times based out of something that no normal consumers are going to be able to use theirs drones for.
    So, a 38-minute flight time on the DJI Air 3S is considered normal and 36 minutes of flight time on the DJI Mavic 3 Pro should be the correct flight times.

    • @cheungarrie123
      @cheungarrie123 13 дней назад

      Good point. But I would suggest them advertise flight time within 90 percent range, say 100% down to 10%. That's how normal people use the battery. That being said, the Air 3S battery depletes very differently from different type of flights. I typically get 25-28 minutes in the air with 85% battery. But last week I flew to an island 2 kilometers away in Sport mode and 500 meters high, and maintained that altitude for more than 10 minutes. That flight consumed 85% battery in 22 minutes.

  • @stevedawson3863
    @stevedawson3863 13 дней назад +1

    I always take 25 percent off on the flight time advertised that is close to what you will get!!

  • @edi18912
    @edi18912 13 дней назад

    i want to get this but i really want the mavic 4, do you think its almost here and should wait? i want d log which this doesn thave

    • @jasonlee4267
      @jasonlee4267 11 дней назад

      I am holding out for the Mavic 4 as well, it ain't going to arrive before early 2025, multiple factors make me suspect that.
      1) The ongoing issues with the US and potential banning.
      2) Virtually no leaks, no specs, no decent images, nothing, some grainy half baked video and some broken prototypes,
      3) Its almost the Christmas holidays, not a lot of people with have $3k+ spare for a super drone fly more kit at this time of year, and so while there will be buyers, it would not be a good time to release such a high end product.
      Of course I could be wrong and it could arrive in December or January, but neither make sense in my opinion, I am thinking more like March or April

  • @dondupuis4007
    @dondupuis4007 13 дней назад +1

    Who runs battery to “0”, but i understand what your testing accomplishes.

    • @gregb1599
      @gregb1599 11 дней назад

      No one because the BMS tricks the display into thinking it's zero while in reality it's still at least 10% real capacity left!

  • @TheMamonti1
    @TheMamonti1 13 дней назад +1

    I had fun when the mavic air only flew for 13 to 17 minutes.... but..... even at the worse.... 30 minutes of flying time with a drone is plenty of time to get the shots you want... especially when you have 2 more batteries! Sure... you will never get the 45 mins unless you have perfect conditions and 150 buck for a new battery!!!

    • @TheDroneGeek
      @TheDroneGeek  13 дней назад

      Here, here! I still feel a bit disappointed it wasn't CLOSER. I knew there was no shot of actually achieving 45 minutes as the conditions are never perfect. But it would have been nice to see it squeeze out just a little more time and hit that 39-40 minute mark. Still, I'll take ~32 minutes all day, every day. Like you said, it's plenty of time to get just about any kind of shot one would want!

    • @TheMamonti1
      @TheMamonti1 13 дней назад +1

      @@TheDroneGeek I get it...... but I am use to it too..... at least spending 1500.00 and getting 75% of it advertised flight time.... is way better then spending 120k for a tesla and only getting 60% of their quoted range!!! Most of the videos I see are in the 30 to 35min... and when you figure all the different conditions, regions and whatever it is still pretty good...... to be honest.... I don't know how they get it to stay in the air that long on a battery that is about the size of the first mavic and I never saw them getting in the 30's.... you could do what they are dong in Ukraine and strapping another battery to it to double the flight time... well not double due to the extra weight but they may get the 45 min...

    • @Hellvoisin
      @Hellvoisin 13 дней назад

      The batt is brand spanking new why are you protecting a chinese communist cie? False advertisement that is.

  • @renegade37918
    @renegade37918 13 дней назад +1

    the biggest bummer for me is the loss of our flight data

    • @TheDroneGeek
      @TheDroneGeek  13 дней назад

      They want those of us that could utilize the flight data for projects to purchase the bigger-ticket stuff...it's shitty for us, but smart business on DJI's part.

    • @renegade37918
      @renegade37918 13 дней назад +1

      @@TheDroneGeek do they have black friday sales? I am wanting the wide angle lens

    • @dronecamgeorgia
      @dronecamgeorgia 13 дней назад +1

      What loss of flight data? Are you referring to the "DJIFlightRecord_...txt” files that can be uploaded to AirData?

    • @TheDroneGeek
      @TheDroneGeek  13 дней назад

      I’d imagine they will offer sales on BF. Whether the 3S gets discounted for that is still a question.

    • @TheDroneGeek
      @TheDroneGeek  13 дней назад +1

      I assumed they meant the SDKs, but you bring up a good point. We still have access to that.

  • @alexalex5257
    @alexalex5257 13 дней назад +4

    It's measured from 100% to 0%! Flying forward at medium speed All the time and not taking any photos or videos.
    Read the manual man😂

    • @TheDroneGeek
      @TheDroneGeek  13 дней назад

      I'm aware of how DJI does it. Fact is, nobody flies that way and nobody flies their drone batteries from 100-0. Absolute lunacy.

    • @alexalex5257
      @alexalex5257 13 дней назад

      ​​​@@TheDroneGeekI do fly to 0% many times, depends on the situation. I have the auto landing at 10% switched off😉

    • @SamKarpFPV
      @SamKarpFPV 13 дней назад +1

      ​@@alexalex5257 that's horrible for the battery

    • @alexalex5257
      @alexalex5257 13 дней назад

      @SamKarpFPV so far I didn't encounter any problems.

    • @SamKarpFPV
      @SamKarpFPV 13 дней назад

      @@alexalex5257 you won't notice anything initially. But it's well known that fully draining a battery will speed up the degradation of the cell

  • @AstroAndRemi
    @AstroAndRemi 12 дней назад

    Yummy shrimp!

  • @jeffreyrh
    @jeffreyrh 13 дней назад +8

    I recently received my 3S. I've only made 3 flights so far. All were 100% down to 10% battery, About 70 degrees. Climbed to 400ft, cruise set at about 30 mph. I got 30, 30, 32 minutes. I'm used to about 20-24 minutes with my Mini 4 Pro so it was longer than I'm used to, but still a little short for what DJI is claiming.

    • @TheDroneGeek
      @TheDroneGeek  13 дней назад

      Sounds like we had similar experiences.

    • @ChuckD05
      @ChuckD05 13 дней назад

      That’s what my air 3 gets as well.

    • @ChuckD05
      @ChuckD05 13 дней назад

      Never got over 35 , think that was my best but I do usually move around a lot. Would expect a little less from 3S

    • @EltecnicoWD
      @EltecnicoWD 13 дней назад

      Their testing methodology is very disingenuous to say the least. I have the Mini 4 Pro with the PLUS batteries and it only cracks about 30 minutes, max 32 and that is pushing it. Honestly very dissapointed with that, I would rather they give correct more true to life numbers, but of course the point is just selling

    • @paradoxicalcat7173
      @paradoxicalcat7173 13 дней назад

      I get near exactly the same as you with both aircraft, so good that we are consistent.

  • @JoshConnectMedia
    @JoshConnectMedia 12 дней назад +2

    Dude, I can understand how you would use DJI's own words of flight time to match your test results. Perhaps DJI SHOULD paste on their manuals or boxes or adverts that the flight time is for reference only and their test environment is based on their own, air conditioned room, slightly airy room and stuff like that . i am just saying. My suggestion to DJI - Take your drones out there , real practical environment situations and test them out. We are here in the country that makes them and we could help in testing some of these drones out there.. so that at least, your references could be close to nature.

  • @paullawrence8572
    @paullawrence8572 13 дней назад +1

    Yes very dissapointed like you!

    • @TheDroneGeek
      @TheDroneGeek  13 дней назад +1

      I was a bit surprised to see how short it fell in overall flight time. I was hoping to be pushing closer to 40 minutes per battery, but I suppose we take what we can get on this one and just hope that the next drone has closer-to-spec flight time.

  • @jasonlee4267
    @jasonlee4267 11 дней назад +2

    All DJI drones are always short of flight time, the Mavic 3 pro gets 45mins but in real terms it gets 33-35m in general.
    200ft in the air is a significant altitude for it to be working for extended periods, I bet if you retook that test at 50-100ft you would see a minor improvement, perhaps 1-2 mins.
    What I do think though is that DJI should strive to get a more accurate flight representation for its products rather then these almost fake parameters that are virtually impossible to replicate, I would much rather they said 35mins of flight time and you actually get 33-35mins, but then again basically every single company in the world does the same thing