ELDEN RING: Why We Fight Radahn in the DLC (Shadow of the Erdtree)

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  • Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024

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  • @AmeliaAeon
    @AmeliaAeon  27 дней назад +4

    Radahn, Miquella, Ranni, Malenia... The Lands Between is basically a cosmic soap opera, and we’re just here stirring the pot. If you’re into the lore as deep as I am, let’s chat about how messed up this whole situation is! Which demigod’s story blows your mind the most?

    • @user-od7hh8qg9d
      @user-od7hh8qg9d 21 день назад

      10 headless demigods. I mean, those corpses in the walking mausoleums are all children of Marika, yet we know nothing about who they were and what they did. Only that they failed to meet their mother's expectations and were discarded for it.

    • @AmeliaAeon
      @AmeliaAeon  21 день назад

      @@user-od7hh8qg9d oohhh so true!! They are a huge mystery!! Also she must have some sort of very serious hierarchy-plan for her children. Like some are left in another land, some locked in the underground, some killed.. and some kept around. like whats the way she judges?!

    • @AmeliaAeon
      @AmeliaAeon  21 день назад

      @@user-od7hh8qg9d also my mind always made me wonder if their missing heads were linked to the faces on the godskin apostles clothes…

  • @luckyowl6432
    @luckyowl6432 23 дня назад +6

    My personal theory is that in some way it was supposed to be Godwyn but to save on assets it was changed to Radahn to be re-used.
    I feel like someone high up on the team shipped Miquella and Radahn together and somehow bewitched enough people to follow along that it became cannon.
    Probably incorrect but that's what I'm currently thinking.

    • @AmeliaAeon
      @AmeliaAeon  23 дня назад +1

      I honestly love this, this is even better than my theory at this point lol
      Also, yes, can you imagine designing Godwyn fight?

    • @ixiahj
      @ixiahj 23 дня назад +2

      Rahdan was popular. If they went with Godwyn, they need to model a completely new boss.
      I wish Fromsoft added the dumbmest easter egg where a statue of Miquella turns into a statue of Patches just to troll the community.

    • @AmeliaAeon
      @AmeliaAeon  23 дня назад +1

      lol that'd be great!

    • @zaphael7238
      @zaphael7238 22 дня назад +1

      We are all scratching our heads over the Radahn angle, it seems to come out of left field with no foreshadowing. I would have rather fought Kind Miquella all by himself than have a reused Radahn ridden like poor his poor horse.

    • @AmeliaAeon
      @AmeliaAeon  22 дня назад +1

      @@zaphael7238 lol although the horse wishes Radahn was as light as Miquella

  • @TheSehroyal
    @TheSehroyal 14 дней назад +1

    I think Radhan did it all of his own volition, about the stars. It's a point that he's a golden order sucker and that he fanboys Godfrey, so when Ranni destroys everything, he, another child of Carian descent who knows about the stars guiding their destiny, just holds them in place, fitting perfectly in Miquella's plan

    • @AmeliaAeon
      @AmeliaAeon  13 дней назад

      It's definitely a good explanation and very possible! Whatever the reason, he was definitely try to stop Ranni and maybe made up the Sellia excuse himself...

  • @user-hi2ql7lf9k
    @user-hi2ql7lf9k 22 дня назад +2

    Finally. Even though most of this is speculation, your telling of events actually makes the SotE ending make the most sense of it all. I personally wasn't too thrilled with Radahn being the tie to it all but like I said, your story makes it ALL click in a way I never considered. Thank you!!

    • @AmeliaAeon
      @AmeliaAeon  22 дня назад

      Thank you! I thought the same when I first heard of Radahn as the final boss in the DLC, more than that I was like WTF Radahn WITH Miquella? It made no sense, at all! But then if you start seeing the big picture and consider all the characters, yes, with a lot of speculation added on top, it kinda make sense, in my opinion.
      Also, to me Ranni story and her killing Godwyn never made sense. Bit with THIS plot, it fits in very well!
      Thanks for watching ;)

  • @ramoraid
    @ramoraid 22 дня назад +2

    Elden ring timeline from what I know,
    - Miquella leaves the golden order
    - Creates Haligtree society
    - Night of knives
    - Shattering
    - Miquella enter his Haligtree
    - Malenia heads off to fight Radhan
    - St.Trina begins to appear in the world
    - Mogh sneaks in and steals Miquella
    - Ansbach fight miquella, loses
    - Mogh feed him his blood, kills miquella and is sent to the lands of shadow and St.trina disappears from the world
    - Torrent and Miquella meet
    - Miquella and Milena meet
    - Miquella sends Milena back with torrent to the lands between
    - Milena finds the Tarnish and the game begins
    - Tarnished is used by both ranni and miquella to kill radhan

    • @AmeliaAeon
      @AmeliaAeon  22 дня назад

      I like this. Torrent definitely deserves a video of his/her own. And you’re right there is definitely something that links Torrent to all these characters!!

    • @denis4082
      @denis4082 21 день назад +2

      poor Rhadan , the man just wanted to stay awey from all and ride His beloved horse . But other Girls and some Boys whantes him in all kind of ways .. ALL kind of WAYS .

    • @AmeliaAeon
      @AmeliaAeon  21 день назад +1

      @@denis4082 lol you totally get it!

  • @LeggoMyGekko
    @LeggoMyGekko 19 дней назад +1

    I think Godwyn was absolutely intended to be the final boss of SOTE, but was changed to Radahn somewhat late into development. There are several things in the base game connecting Godwyn & Miquella (Golden Epitaph, Castle Sol & Walking Mausoleums, statue in the Haligtree) and Godwyn returning would not be a retcon or deviate from the base game’s lore at all considering it’s a fantasy world with arcane death magic and a Shadow Realm upon which “all manners of Death” wash up.
    The reason Miquella failed to restore Godwyn’s soul the first time was not because the Eclipse happened and didn’t work, it was because the Eclipse couldn’t happen in the first place, due to Radahn holding the stars in stasis. This is why we needed to kill Radahn to enter the DLC, because Miquella needed the stars to resume their movements for the Eclipse ritual. Then he’d have brought Godwyn’s soul back, in Mohg’s body, as his consort. This would explain the battle of Aeonia as well; Malenia tried, but failed, to kill Radahn so the Eclipse could happen.
    Also, Miquella’s dialogue in Radahn’s phase 1 cutscene: “… and my Lord Brother’s soul will return.” and his phase 2 dialogue: “Lord Brother. At long last, you are returned.” make no sense for two reasons. For one, ‘at long last’ doesn’t make sense considering Radahn has only been dead for however much time we spend in the DLC. Secondly, when he says “…my Lord Brother’s soul will return,” as well as “…at long last you are returned,”Radahn’s soul is already present in Mohg’s body. It’s not like we’re there to see his awakening, he’s standing and ready to fight when we enter the fog gate.
    This is why I think these lines were originally intended to be used in a cutscene for the Promised Consort Godwyn fight, and that they were repurposed when they had to make the change from Godwyn to Radahn. The Gate of Divinity looks like it’s just begging for an Eclipse to happen right there, for the Eclipse to then drip light into the opening below with which Godwyn’s soul would be restored in Mohg’s body. It’s a shame we were robbed of such an experience.
    Radahn and Miquella had no connections in the base game besides the battle of Aeonia, which would make more sense in the context of Radahn preventing Miquella’s Eclipse from taking place, making Aeonia more of a Miquella-Godwyn connection anyways. And no, the description on the Young Lion set “revealing” what Malenia said in that story trailer is not proof that they planned Radahn’s place as Miquella’s consort from the start. We had no idea what she was saying back when it release and I don’t think FromSoft did either, they could have had different ideas for the story back then and planned for her to be saying something completely different. They could have told us she was whispering the beginning of the Bee Movie in that scene and we’d have no choice but to believe them because that’s all we have to go off of.
    It shoulda’ been Godwyn.

    • @luckyowl6432
      @luckyowl6432 19 дней назад +1

      @@LeggoMyGekko this is fantastic. I've always been too lazy to type out the whole explanation of why the Radahn/Miquella thing made no sense but you said it better than I ever could have. I hope all the people that keep defending the Radahn ending come across this comment because they would have no arguments.

    • @AmeliaAeon
      @AmeliaAeon  19 дней назад +1

      Yes, this is a very nice plot and it does stand. The "at long last" for me could also be intended as that Radahn didnt die back when Malenia went to kill him and so Miquella had to wait for us. But, that stands both ways and your version does indeed make even more sense as it would have been nice to see the eclipse happening. And killing Radahn would have definitely made that happen. 👏 i like this

  • @AmjadRifaii
    @AmjadRifaii 22 дня назад +2

    i like the speculations you used to fill the gaps and connect the timelines, nobody talked about it before. and how do you only jave 24 subs?! here comes your 25 th ❤😊 great video

    • @AmeliaAeon
      @AmeliaAeon  22 дня назад +1

      Thank you so much! Glad you enjoyed it! When I learned that Radahn was Miquella's consort, I had to find the link there as it was driving mad 😅 You really need let your imagination run wild to connect the dots in this game!

  • @Grimdark_Replays
    @Grimdark_Replays 15 дней назад +2

    The game was almost remarkably clear that the greater will is gone. Has been gone. It is exerting no current will on the lands between. It’s pawns The fingers and Elden beast are continuing to run the show to the best of their abilities. But without leadership or guidence.

  • @JayJayFlip
    @JayJayFlip 23 дня назад +2

    Look, I'm walking here. Thats my policy, my tarnished goes around and people come and mess him up, he don't know what's on the other side of these fog gates, he's just walking around. If Miquella was chill and just sitting there as a weird god then my tarneshed would be like,
    "Bet, aight have fun, any cool shit laying around? Dont mind me, I'm gonna take a selfie, love what you've done with the place." and then he'd leave. Case and point; Priscilla didn't start nothing and got nothing. My tarnished only acted in self defense really. Not to mention you can just hand over those great runes cuz Rennala didn't die and niether did Miquella when he just dropped it on the side of the road.

    • @AmeliaAeon
      @AmeliaAeon  23 дня назад +1

      Im so on edge in this game that by the time I'm half hour in I just attack anything that moves... runes dropping or not.

  • @NikkuKunUWU
    @NikkuKunUWU 21 день назад +1

    As wild as the "sellia lie theory" seems. I can definitely see it fitting in the story nicely

    • @AmeliaAeon
      @AmeliaAeon  21 день назад +1

      Right? It’s a bit out there but I feel it could really fit a manipulative miquella scenario!
      Plus while I do believe Radahn was protecting Sellia I haven’t found another super strong theory for why.
      But Im sure there is something about the nox there and maybe even the giant heads that I’m also missing.

  • @kyleporter6688
    @kyleporter6688 20 дней назад

    Come on radahns scarier than any other demigod than your going to find in the lands between

    • @AmeliaAeon
      @AmeliaAeon  19 дней назад

      Imagine fighting zombie Godwyn though.... lol

  • @Psychx_
    @Psychx_ 22 дня назад +1

    Ahh, I like that reasoning, as I too thought that Miquella just used and then discarded Malenia to further his goals. Also, an "age of compassion" from someone who already was a sociopath even before discarding all aspects that made him human sounds kinda sus, ngl.

    • @AmeliaAeon
      @AmeliaAeon  22 дня назад +1

      Thank you! That thought has been spinning in my head for a while but I feel like in the DLC we really get proof that poor Malenia was just totally used! I mean she was an Empyrean FFS and never even stood a chance to try and go get her fate? It just doesnt add up until you get the "Miquella-manipulation-thing" into the picture.
      And yes, Miquella is totally a sociopath! Easy to bring on any sort of age if none has any free will left...

    • @luckyowl6432
      @luckyowl6432 21 день назад +1

      @@Psychx_ I disagree he's a sociopath. I think he's basically a child with the power to bewitch and command and was desperate to make a world that wasn't so harsh.
      But because he was cursed with eternal childhood he was thinking and planning like a child and was unable to see the larger picture or long term consequences of his actions or of becoming a full fledged god.... he's still doing bad and manipulative things but in his childlike mind it's all worth it for the world to have an age of peace and compassion.
      I think he had truly good intentions but hell is paved with good intentions and all that.

    • @AmeliaAeon
      @AmeliaAeon  20 дней назад +1

      @luckyowl6432 I really like the point of view that Miquella being a child, thinks and act like one. This is a really interesting way of seeing this part of the lore, and I havent seeing this exact theory before! Nice thinking!

  • @bw5020
    @bw5020 22 дня назад +1

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    • @AmeliaAeon
      @AmeliaAeon  22 дня назад +3

      If you consider Italy as part of the Caribbean sure 😅 It's funny cause none ever picks up my accent for some reason! I heard greek, russian... but Caribbean is new! I love it! 🤍

    • @bw5020
      @bw5020 22 дня назад +1

      @AmeliaAeon Ayyyye. My hype has not changed lol 😂 Suscribed 💪🏾

    • @AmeliaAeon
      @AmeliaAeon  22 дня назад +1

      @@bw5020 thank you so much!!!! 🤩🥳

  • @tossapat027
    @tossapat027 27 дней назад +1

    you LORE make me mind blow by Miquella Plan and how mess up the Lands Between are

    • @AmeliaAeon
      @AmeliaAeon  27 дней назад

      Right?! Miquella’s plan really does mess with your head! And when you put the other step-sibiling into it the Lands Between become a wild place indeed. Thanks for watching 🤍

  • @ravendelacour1917
    @ravendelacour1917 22 дня назад +1

    Side note. Due to Alberich's dialogue, we know Mohg was charmed before Miquella entered the Hallingtree. Alberich challenged Miquella after Mohg was charmed and was charmed himself. This couldn't have happened after Mohg took the coccon because we can see that while the coccon is torn, it wasn't opened. Thus Alberich must have attacked Miquella before Miquella went in the coccon, which would have been before the Shattering and all that entailed. Miquella staged the kidnapping, which means he abandoned his sister and all the Hallingtree's refugees willingly to death by Scarlet Rot.

    • @josephnarvaez9507
      @josephnarvaez9507 21 день назад

      Who tf is alberich?

    • @ravendelacour1917
      @ravendelacour1917 21 день назад

      @@josephnarvaez9507 The spell checker's idea of how Ansbach should be spelled.

    • @ravendelacour1917
      @ravendelacour1917 21 день назад

      *Ansbach. The spell checker doesn't have that word in memory and switched out the closest English name equivalent. Sigh.

    • @AmeliaAeon
      @AmeliaAeon  21 день назад

      Yes, that’s something for the timeline. “Alberich” definitely had to challenge miquella before the cocoon thing and so mohg was charmed before the kidnapp.
      And now that you mention it. In the ER intro trailer, we see mohg with miquella, not a cocoon. I wonder what that means and how is linked 🤔🤔🤔

    • @ravendelacour1917
      @ravendelacour1917 21 день назад

      @@AmeliaAeon Miquella like Ranni plans several steps ahead of everyone else and tends to be underestimated due to his appearance. My guess is after the failure to resurrect Godwyn at Castle Sol, Miquella went to Plan B: Rahdan. That involved finding a suitable vessel and when he looked around he decided that no one would miss Mohg. Then I think he arranged a meeting, the image in the trailer, by some means and charmed Mohg. Ansbach challenges Miquella, fails, Miquella goes back to the Hallingtree and sets his sister to kill Rahdan, fakes the kidnapping, leaves his sister and the Hallingtree people to rot (literally), does the whole pre-DLC stuff in Lands of Shadows, then died at the Tarnished's hands.

  • @ramoraid
    @ramoraid 22 дня назад

    I personally am agaisnt the idea the miquella purposely manipulated Malenia in any way with his charm powers. His Charm power is actually not very strong and Ansbach, Hornsent and Leda all prove that they have their own goals and they still pursue them despite being charmed. Malenia loyalty was won not by charms but by the dedication of miquella to cure her and improve her life. He was the one that wove unalloyed gold into her body, created the needle to stop the rot and was the creator of her prosthetics and armor. She clearly developed a complex for her brother and only wished to protect him and the fact she still willingly calls herself blade of Miquella is proof enough she was not charmed. Miquella goal drove him from the golden order, pushed him to grow his Haligtree, forced him to leave his other half St.Trina* and ultimately allowed him to become a God.
    *St. Trina own power to put people to sleep and allow her to walk in order people's dream is not capable of curing Malenia's Scarlet Rot.

    • @AmeliaAeon
      @AmeliaAeon  22 дня назад

      This is definitely a plausible theory! There is no proof whatsoever that Miquella charmed Malenia. It’s just a theory that, if not disproven, could potentially stand.
      But a charmed Malenia fits this plot nicely in my opinion.
      The fact that Miquella was helping her could definitely be a factor to influence her loyalty!
      The lore of this game is so tangled 😅

    • @ramoraid
      @ramoraid 21 день назад +1

      @@AmeliaAeon Yeah, the lore definitely feels tangled but this part of the lore is definitely written by GRRM. I expect many will view miquella as evil but his like his mother, he just wants to help the people he loves. It's what makes the minor erdtree incantation heartbreaking to see.

    • @AmeliaAeon
      @AmeliaAeon  21 день назад

      Ye, it make sense, I do find myself constantly wondering wether Marika was good or evil.. and now same for Miquella I guess. It's like Unity in Rick and Morty if you know what I'm saying.. like it's so immoral but it was actually better when she has control over everyone 😂 where do we draw the line????