Weber Master Touch VS. Kamado Joe's The Kettle Joe!! (The Charcoal Kettle Showdown!!)
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Today, Trevor is reviewing the Weber Master Touch Series versus Kamado Joe's, The Kettle Joe! He'll start out by reviewing the qualities of the grills and what sets them apart from each other. Afterwards, you know it, we're grilling steaks on them! Let's take a look at both of these grills and see what happens.
Trevor starts out the review by taking a look at Weber's Master Touch. Weber has amazing enamel making it scratch proof and comes with a 10 year warranty. They're a very well known company that has a great reputation. Under the hood of the Master Touch you get warming racks, cooking grates for wok cooking, charcoal baskets, and a cool agitator to dump your ash into the bucket underneath. It's an affordable solid grill. You are getting what you pay for, but people make amazing food on these grills.
Next, Trevor takes a look at the Kettle Joe by Kamado Joe! This grills is similar to the Weber. Its the same 22 inch diameter, but comes with a lot more features. First off it comes with wheels, a cart, and side shelfs. Another cool thing about the Kamado Joe brand is that they sell a lot of accessories. You can see we have the Slow Roller that fits on both the Kamado and the Weber. That is so cool! The kettle Joe has a ceramic fire box allowing it to retain heat better. Also in the fire box, there is enough for off set cooking which is a useful feature. These are both really nice grills, but lets see how they do cooking some steaks!
So, we want to start off by saying it was freezing and this was not the most successful cook. Trevor had a really hard time getting the coal to catch and get the grills up to temperature. He did make use of a new tool Ember's is selling called the Looft Lighter. Anyways, Trevor didn't really get the seer he was looking for. The steaks were still delicious, juicy, and cooked properly, but he didn't get the screaming sear some of the other grills get. Please let us know some of your kettle or charcoal tips for getting these things screaming hot.
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I really love and appreciate the honesty and the realness of this video. This is real life and I enjoy the fact it has been filmed. And released. Keep up the good and hard work!
lots of videos coming!
I consider myself to be somewhat of a grilling enthusiast especially when it’s sunny outside.
When I got my first grill I was excited and had a bunch of friends over for a BBQ only to realize that I had no idea what I was doing. I was pretty embarrassed so I decided to really learn it, watched loads of videos and did tons of trial and error.
The most important thing about grilling is temps (duh) get an instant read thermometer and keep and eye on your cooks. Food will be juicy and delicious every time.
Next, get a charcoal chimney and fill it with any charcoal. Put some paper or wax cubes in and light it. Now go to your garage and drink 2-3 beers, when you’re done with that pour the lit coal in and enjoy!
The only way to make good BBQ is to make a lot of bad BBQ!
Finally,
Kamado is neat but the Weber is so versatile I don’t see a reason to spend 2x but different strokes for different folks.
Cheers!
Hey buddy, you drink the cold ones as fast as I do!
Love the honesty and the test. BIG respect for you.
Thank you for watching!
On real cold days leave the lid slightly of kilter, so there's a ~1/8-1/4 gap, that will allow a lot more oxygen in there and you'll be pinning the lid thermometer in no time, one of the best tricks I've learned for my Weber!
Love this video for the quality of production, humour, information and just down right positivity of the guy ❤
Thanks for watching!
Great video. Love the honesty👍🏻
Thanks for watching!
As many have said, the primary problem here is not waiting long enough for the charcoal to fully light. If you had, you would have found that both grills would have been much hotter than you experienced. I have used a Weber kettle for 20 years; I just moved to the kettle joe a few months ago. I think the real problem with this video, however, is you didn’t do the right tests to highlight the differences. The ceramic lining in the kettle joe allows for stable temps for much longer times and the venting system is much more precise allowing much greater temperature control vs. the Weber kettle. For as hot as possible grilling directly over hot coals, you won’t see much difference. If the fire is started properly, they both do a good job of getting hot and searing meat. But if you want to cook something slowly over long periods of time, the kettle joe is better, hands down. I would recommend redoing the video but also just comparing temperatures over several hours and do something slow like a brisket or a turkey. That will highlight the differences. Not sure the kettle joe is worth the price premium if your goal is simply hot fire to grill burgers…if you want versatility to do much more than that, then the kettle joe really works well at a fraction of the cost of a full kamado grill.
good feedback
Always get your pit up to temp before adding the meat, no exceptions. With a kettle, lid off build the fire then add the lid and wait to temp of your liking. Completely different than a Kamado style of start up. And the most important thing in grilling/ BBQing it doesn't matter the brand or style of cooker! As long as your out doing it and learning the pit your using you will always make great food!
Thanks for the tips
Okay but stop saying “pit”
I’m just
Thanks - Its been a long time since I used charcoal and have had the same problem with the Kettle Joe. It was nice to see the struggle and am learning a lot from the comments.
ha thanks
Great video. I live in a very cold part of Australia and had all sorts of problems with Kettle design. After many frustrating cooks I went to the Kamado design. I only use Kettles now in our summer. I felt your frustration and enjoy your honest and unbiased reviews.
Thanks for watching!
I didn’t know there were cold parts in Australia. I’m a dumb American. I’ll research all that. Time to go!
@@MarkSmith-js2pu G'day Mark, I live in the Ballarat Region in Victoria.Australia. It gets cold, but different to the cold in the States. Many people from Canada and the States (when they come here) really notice the cold as it's a WET cold and not a dry cold with snow.
We also have strong winds most of the time, so our wind chill factor is usually below Zero so much of the time.
most of Australia gets hot in the summer, but we also get cold due to elevation and our closeness to the South Pole.
Thanks mate.
@@RowanTasmanian , thanks for the education mate. I learned a lot since I read your earlier note, and thanks for taking time to write. Cheers!
I got the Kettle Joe today, been a Weber guy for the last 20 yrs. Christened it with some Sirlions about 1.5 inch thick. I used a chimney starter like always. Grill was up to sear temp in 30mins. Used the devide and conquer system with low grill for sear, 3 mins each side then on the higher rack for 3 mins. Rested for 5 mins & got to say they were as good as any ive done on a Weber. One thing i will say is, the devide and conquer system is a great advantage over the Weber grate.
Nice!
Hey Mark. I'm literally about to purchase one of these two kettles. Knowing what you know now, which one would you buy?
Love the video!! We've all had these struggles, it's nice to see there are humans out there other than myself🤣
yeah it was bad
You guys do awesome reviews. I’ve bought products based on your review.
Thank you Enrique! Glad to help.
When I did steaks with a kettle, I used a full chimney of charcoal and filled the two baskets with it. This creates a sear zone that should work regardless of the outside temperature, only the time time it takes to sear may vary slightly. After the sear I pushed the baskets aside, probed the steaks and brought them up to temp with indirect heat. If you know your grill and the right temp to pull, this should work every time.
Otherwise the slow roller may be functionaly great but I think it looks ugly. If kettle, I would go with the Weber for sure.
This video may not be a slam dunk but overall I like your videos. Regards from Germany 🤙
Thanks for watching!
Indirect at 250 til 135. At 95 start a full chimney of lump and let it go til ashed completely. Seems like a waste but you will be able to sear in a blizzard this way
Try lump, it burns hotter. This also misses the advantage of a ceramic firebox as the Kettle Joe can go to 700f vs the enamel on the kettle to 500f. No issues searing at -30c where I have one at my cottage
James would know! We don't quite get your weather down here! Thanks for the tip!
I did ribs the other day on mine at -30c too. The biggest issue I had was my wireless thermometer needed charging but was too cold to take a charge. Other than that it held 250 like a champ. As for the steaks a chimney works wonders.
Weber kettles get far hotter than 550f without causing damage. I've run multiple kettles way over 700f using wood, and one I turned into a pizza over and with the aid of a blower reached temps close to 1000f on a consistent basis, although I did melt a handle 😂
A full chimney with vents wide open would get to the nice searing temps. That said, my kettle and SmokeFire sit under covers until the weather warms up in Chicago. Bought a cheap Akorn kamado style cooker for the winter months which has out performed my expectations; holds temps like a champ and the food is excellent. Might upgrade to a ceramic kamado as I am having so much fun cooking on this style cooker.
Thanks for the tips!
Our KJ’s with the top vent wide open IS our charcoal chimney. As demonstrated, there’s simply no chimney effect with a kettle grill, so the lit charcoal needs all the air it can get, grill uncovered, at least until the starters burn out. I also find that briquettes take longer to light than lump. Anyhow, loved the honest showroom floor comparison! There’s no way I’d spend $500 on a kettle grill with only half the warranty as a Weber, for good reason as demonstrated with the drill bit! If my daughter in Denver ever gets in a house I’ll try to remember to send her your way.
Nice! The KJ's are cool. Well have more kettle videos coming soon !
@@embersliving if I was to make a request, it would be for more Kamado Joe cooks without the SloRoller, and I’m not talking about KJ accessory infomercials I see on so many channels. I sort of binged yesterday and it looks like I’m gonna have to start watching Big Green Egg RUclips’s to learn how to cook on my new KJ Classic 1 😂.
For basic steak grilling, I keep the grill open (maximum oxygen) during the sear. Once I like what I see, set it to the cool zone and only then close the lid to get it up to preferred internal temp.
i enjoyed the video, thanks for making it. with all the feedback from both sides of the camps would you reconsider another taste test on video? thanks again for the content.
Thanks for the feedback
These are some nice grills 🔥
Thanks for watching
I have the Weber master touch and I can say that you just need a Weber chimney starter and good lump charcoal and you will have the best searing experience ever. I use mine since 3 months now and I can testify that Weber rocks plus I’m learning how slow cook and even tho it doesn’t touch a Kamado joe it still does low and slow great.
Thanks for the tips!
Weber! Been using the one I bought in 1994 and is my go to grill! Keep it clean.
Nice! They are awesome units for sure !!
On the kettle joe I usually open the lower and upper vent more, and I have added filt seal for the lid. The I can get it up to 300 Celsius in -10 celcius weather.
Sweet
Chimney stack to start the coals. Wait until they are fully lit. You can get a seat in cold temps but you will just go through more fuel.
Thanks for the tip
Simple solution to increasing oxygen-remove the ash can and set it below the opening to catch any ash and charcoal that falls.
Thanks for the info!
I have a Kettle Joe and always have issues getting the unit above 450 degrees and I live in Florida, I’ve tried everything and it sucks as a hot and fast cooker. What is a great hot grill? I’m looking at the Pk grills since I have a slow roller and a pellet grill I just need a fast grill and searing station.
good to know
One thing i would like to know it the burn time with the same amount of charcoal in each, because of the way the ceramic charcoal basket shape it you cant do the snake method or stack charcoal like the weber, and if you are really wanting it for slow and low cooking is it as easy to do as the weber because of basket shape
im not sure
The heat may have been struggling on the Master Touch due to bottom vent, the cleaning system leaver was over to far right , was it fully open? The result looked good? Regards from Scotland
Thanks for watching
Hi, start the charcoal off in a chimney first then they really kick butt no matter how cold the weather.
We will try that thanks!
I've always struggled keeping kettle searing temp when it's below 15°
Agree
Kind of a Michael Scott vibe to this review but I love it lol thanks for all the info!
haha thanks
I use a hair dryer with an extension cord to blow air into the coals. It gets to 1000F to accelerate the chemical reaction of the coals by pushing more o2. Also not sure why people use lighter fluid, I save the oil I don’t dump down the drain and use it to ignite the chimney starter. I don’t use briquettes due to chemicals. Then i compost the wood ash (lump charcoal can be composted)
Nie blow dryer move!! Thats smart keep the chemicals out. Thanks for the comment!
If I’m able to buy this two with the same price, which one should I choose?
I would go Kamado
more charcoal and lighter fluid. leave the lid off for more oxygen till you get a good hot bed of coals. Your channel is why I bought my Weber Genesis 2 SE, and I love it. It's just freezing a** cold in Ohio right now. But I've cooked on it a bunch already since Christmas. Ready for Spring time! Thanks!
Awesome!
Try using the Kamado Joe charcoal basket because it will give an air gap through the bottom and allow for better airflow to help the charcoal burn hotter and quicker. I have seen this used by the Smoking Dad BBq guy on a joe jr. Hopefully it will fit the Kettle.
Very nice! Thanks for watching.
In Australia prices may be different but here you can find a Kamado Classic 1 for cheaper than a Kettle Joe.
Kettle Joe retails for $AU1299, from the same store for the same price you can get the Classic 1 for the same price with the D&C, and from another store you can get it even cheaper without the D&C for $AU899
cool
KJ Kettle is great. Lots of little things make it worth it such as the height and shelves and build.
Cool!
Always let the charcoal ash over and get really hot before starting your cook😊
thanks!
I’ve leaned the more beer I drink while quing it up the better it turns out. You just neede a couple cold ones.
haha next time for sure
You do have to learn how to start them up but once you know it becomes easy and they’re super awesome to use even in the super cold
We got lots of different info on placement of the charcoal to start it up. Next winter we'll give it another go!
Should have used Lump wood to get heat hotter for steaks, get those temps past 400 easy. Also use chimney starter lol
Thank you
Are you using briquettes or lump charcoal or the ceramic kamado ? Lump burns hotter than briquettes.
on this cook it was briquettes
Try using charcoal chimney start off with very hot coals
Thanks for the tips
20 degrees is f%$#@ing cold... Gonna check your website out. You guys carry or can order the different color and sized Webers? I don't want Amazon involved in any way. lol...Was gonna get a few more full size grills, and another Smokey Joe for traveling. Wanted a Copper or Blue Smokey Joe, or something.
It depends what we have in stock! None of our orders are done through amazon and we deliver all over the USA mainland. Please visit our website and speak to a salesman they will help you with everything! Thank you so much ! (303) 800-5659
I just bought a kettle joe today at Lowe’s! Good news, I bought it for 50 bucks on markdown!
nice yeah we practically gave ours away as well
Can you use the Weber grates with the kamado joe slow roller?
yeah they fit
@@embersliving Thanks baby
It looks like you have the lid dampers shut. You have to let the fire breathe if you want higher temps.
we had them open
this is one reason why i love gas grill. i dont want the hassle but i want to high temps that pellet cant get to without spending $4000
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It's not the cold...the coal should have been fully lit before putting it in the grill, ideally with a chimney. That said, it can also be done without a chimney but you need to mound the coals and then use an oiled newspaper/paper towel or a firestarter tumbleweed/cube to aid in quick ignition. After it is fully lit, you can spread the coals out and add more fresh coals on top to raise the temp even more ...this last one is only if you really need it IMO
Also, when lighting it in the firebox, keep the lids open till fully lit and then close to bring it the chamber up to temp - by keeping it closed thru out the lighting process you are actually slowing down the process.
Lastly in windy or cold situations you can crack the lib a bit on both to aid in the fire burning hotter.
These tricks all work to make for a better and easier cook on a kettle no matter the temp outside
Ok
@@embersliving still a great video by the way.
I learned all of the above by making the same mistakes...end of the day you all made it work...great content as always. If you guys were in my neck of the woods I would shop there - 😆
I also thought of another reason it didn't work - yes its cold, yes it's windy, but it's also a mile up from sea level...that last one probably had a bigger impact and so the coals probably needed an assist to get lit ...also more coals to make up for the lower burn rate die to the air oxygen levels maybe
I Like 👍 The Orange One, Too Me, IT Looks More Tender. But, If, I Was Too Purchase, For That Wheel Slow Cook, And Also, Can Switch, Those Grills Around, I Would Probably Purchase Both Of Them Together. Not Right YET, But, When, OR If I Was Ready Too Purchase, I Would Probably Order Both Of Them Together Then. Great Presentation 👏 👌. Do'nt Downgrade Yourself Sooh Much. Miss CoCo
Thanks for watching!
Dude, don't blame the weather 🤣
The wind!! Lots of people have given some good advice though.
FYI kettle joe has not been out in the market for over a year, yet. I do own a kettle joe that cost me $100. so I might be biased here lol. What I do to get it hot fast during cold temps is I use the Grill blazer Grill Gun to start my charcoal. Fire starters is cavemen thinking.
Cool
@@embersliving Heck yeah. Better than your caveman method
Chimney starter, build upp temperature, after that no problems för kettle Weber. There is no grill with so good versitality like kettle and price point.
nice!
11:40 lighter fluid smoked sausages 🤦♀️
haha
Super vidéo 👍
Thanks for watching!
@@embersliving le keetle Joe m'intéresse beaucoup
@@patoches C'est un très bon gril ! Voici une autre vidéo. ruclips.net/video/GTXbVSwAjsU/видео.html Merci d'avoir regardé.
@@embersliving merci beaucoup je vais aller voir ça 👍👏
You Have Too Take The TIME With, Seems Like, Cuz, You Have 2 Known Great Grills, Sooh, Yeah, The Football Game Has Too BE ON. THAT FIRE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT COOKER, I Believe. Nice Grills. I Do Really, Say A SHOUT OUT. Very, Very Very Nice. Miss CoCo
the football game has to be on 🤣
Honestly.... If they tossed the indirect section of the Kamado out, And dropped the price $100 and just made it an accessory it would be a killer deal. I have had mine for over a year... And the indirect section literally sits in the garage unused.
Lol would really help knowing how to use the products you are selling/reviewing.
Thanks for watching!
Keep it up
ok
Every and I mean Every cook doesn’t go perfectly. I find that to be perfectly true. Each one is different. That’s why it’s fun.
Don’t close the lids when starting your fire. Also for steaks unless you are indirect you should keep the lids off. If you are smoking close the lid. Not sure why someone doing a comparison video doesn’t know this
Thulis comparison should have been weber performer vs joe kettle, then apples to apples
Nice that would be a cool video
From a cooks perspective the meat is burnt, eating burnt meat is not something you wanna do if you dont want cancer. I think i prefer my sous vide and sear on the cast iron instead. Not sold on getting a charcoal smoker.
I dont think burning your food gives you cancer. Smokers are supposed to be low and slow
definitely need to let the charcoal get up to temp first I just think you were in a little bit of a hurry
for sure was
So while you are at it, is there any other products that you wouldnt recommend?
Napoleon grills made a kettle grill. We'll have a video on that eventually.
Try using lump bnb charcoal burns hotter and better
ok
I use lighter fluid in my weber and usually get my coals screaming hot at about 20 minutes.
Some people dont like to do that. I dont care, but idk some ppl do some crazy methods.
Too bad to see the kettle joe doesn’t pass the scratch test, anyway I really wanna get one of those.
I know!
Use a chimney starter
Appreciate what you're trying to do but your grill starting process needs some real help ha.
Don't close the lid until the fire lighter goes out and you have a couple ashed over coals. Or get a chimney
Thanks for the tips!
You guys need a chimney 😂
Thanks for watching!
Maybe wood charcoal would burn hotter?
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Why lids on when first firing up!!!!????? So weird
yeah not the best cook
At least now we know
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the fact that the kettle joe scratched so easily is such a turnoff. For the price premium, i expect the kettle joe to be better than weber in all aspects. Right now, it doesn't even seem to hold temperature better than a weber.
Agree
Those steaks must’ve tasted like fuel and that’s it.
Cold temperature cooks in a kettle:
Use lump.
Use a fire chimney so your lump charcoal is completely ignited.
Bring kettle up to temperature.
Enjoy!
We still ate it 🤣Thanks for the tips!
I love my webber grill...
nice!
I would say leave the lid off let the fire breathe
yeah we messed up
Picked a kettle joe up for 150 today
score! Great deal
Niceee!! Where at if I may ask, Clark?
You cant go wrong with wrber mate
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YOU NEED ANOTHER CAMERA MAN ❗️ FOCUSING ON THE SUBJECT BAT HAND 🤚🏼
ha ok
The only downside about weber is they don’t use stainless steel grates
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High heat
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Operator Headspace
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This dude is the biggest Weber kettle hater lol you can tell he never had too grill from a truck rim
haha both Weber and Joe took some finesse..We just got our hands on the Napoleon Kettle keep an eye for that video!
@@embersliving Go check out Lyfe Tyme bbq pits out of Ulvade Tx. My smoker and my Weber is all I need.
Weber summit or kamado vs kettle joe would be interesting to watch. I own the kettle joe and use it as an all around grill and love it. In Sweden where it is cold it is nice to have the ceramic insert.
Does the ceramic insert hold temperature at all? The heat would still rise and escape from the top metal lid wouldn't it?
The summit would be the clear winner in my opinion, it’s more insulated and has a built in Burner
26in Weber all day long. Let your charcoal get actually going before you put the steaks out and you’ll be fine.
So true!
My first steak on the Genesis 2.
Nice!
NEW CAMERA 🎥 MAN PLEASE 🥺
why
This video sponsored by pxg!?
no
Golf plus BBQ= new subscriber!
Im in the weber team
Team Weber
I love my master touch
there's no such thing as locking in juices. come on.
ha
Trying to sell those Kamado Joes, I see.....
Just trying to show you all the difference! We do prefer Kamado however! Thanks for watching.
Здравствуйте 🌹ЗАХОДИТЕ К НАМ ТОЖЕ У НАС ВКУСНЫЙ БЛЮДА 👍..
Thanks
I’m sorry but if you clearly have no idea 🤦🏻
so sorry
I don’t like the build quality of that Kamado.
Oh dang why?
Weber is king
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Kettle Joe is a laugh. Total rip off. You can buy a Weber Smokey mountain and a Weber kettle for the same price. The ash management on the KJ is awful as well. I predict they won’t be making these much longer.
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What a fail! Totally amateurish! Waste of a decent cut of beef. Better luck next time.
Yeah, it was rough.
I wouldn't buy a bicycle lighter from u
What’s a bicycle lighter