Which BBQ to Buy? Kamado Joe vs Weber Kettle head to head! Kamado Joe Jr. vs. Weber Master-Touch
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- Опубликовано: 22 июл 2024
- Wondering what charcoal BBQ to buy in 2020? Watch this before deciding which BBQ you should buy and find out why my neighbor wouldn’t buy the same BBQ again if he could go back in time.
Representing the ceramic charcoal smoker category is the Kamado Joe Jr, and representing the charcoal kettle style BBQ grill is the Weber Master-Touch 22” as each represents a well appointed budget friendly BBQ from each company.
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00:00 - intro
03:17 The top 3 reasons to buy a Weber Kettle
05:12 The top 3 reasons to buy a Kamado Joe
09:10 Overview & operation of the Weber Kettle
10:44 Overview & operation of the Kamado Joe Jr.
15:50 Head to head indirect cooking performance comparison between the Weber Kettle & the Kamado Joe
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Thank you for making this video! I was one of the people who specifically looked for this. I have a dedicated smoker and I needed something for more quick grilling stuff. Just a classic BBQ type thing
absolutely
I love your channel! It’s one of my favorite’s. Keep pushing for great content like this. Thank you!
I appreciate that! Thanks so much Adeel
Thank you for this video. Only just found your channel. So much info 👍🏽
Spudster thanks so much and welcome to the club 😂
Your presentation style is very charismatic! Keep up the great videos. Thank you very much!
Thanks, will do! Really appreciate you stopping by and commenting
My first grill was Napoleon 22” Kettle Grill, went through so much charcoal trying to use it winter. After it rusted out my Grill which replaced it was a Vision Classic B I got through Costco, I also got Kamado Joe Jr. which I took on camping trip, I love baking , cooking, searing, smoking over charcoal (lump charcoal). Good job on video and comparisons.
Thanks so much, hope I represented each grills strengths and weaknesses well. Glad you liked the video, appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment
Weber team here! 😀😀😀 Love this video is very instructional! Thanks for sharing brother!
Thanks so much Ninja, hope I represented both grills fairly and help people on the fence to understand what each of the grills top strengths are. Appreciate you checking it out
Ninja!!!!!
Thanks James for the excellent comparison of the Weber Kettle vs Kamado Joe. I've been debating about which one to add to my backyard bbq arsenal. The Kamado Joe I think is going to be a great choice for what I want do. Thanks again!
thanks Rob. To complicate things more there is a Kettle Kamado joe now that didn't exist when i did this. its pricey compared to the weber but it has a few nice touches like the ceramic fire box (so you can do 700 vs. 500 without damaging the grill), retain some heat for longer low slow cooks, and the sloroller .... needs felt to fix some smoke leaks and the ash drawer warps a little too easy for my liking but a good option on the all and all... especially when comparing the taste / quality which is what saves it for me
Awesome video James and certainly interesting comparison.
Thanks Matt 👍
I'm discovering the barbecue world. Thank you for your video, very interesting it helps me decide. You are joyfull and its really cool ! Hi from France :)
Welcome aboard!
The fact that he has three Kamodo Joes in his backyard kind of made me suspicious.
i started with a kettle but yes i do have lots of red going on now ... i think i was fair with the pros and cons for each
@@SmokingDadBBQ what type of table do you recommend for a Big Joe 3 ? Have you had any issues with the heat of the KJ warping the table ? Thank you.
@@Billcski no issues. I bought a pre fab table for the big joes but this table I made would work just as well. Here is the how to for the table in this video www.smokingdadbbq.com/blog-posts/how-to-build-a-custom-kamado-grill-station
@@SmokingDadBBQ thank you
Just upgraded from the Weber Kettle to Kamado Joe Classic III and I couldn’t be happier. I loved my Kettle but the KJ is faster to get to temp and it holds the temp better. A lot less messing around.
right on
i use a Weber premium kettle every day absolutely love it! someday I will have a kamado.
awesome. thanks for checking it out
Having both grills each has their sweet spot. You can get way more value out of a kettle grill. The ceramic can be more flexible if you purchase the right one, but it will cost you 5-10x more for a comparable ceramic. The real difference is how often you want to feed fuel to the fire. The ceramic is 2-6x more efficient with fuel, and it can do better with temperature stability but you pay for it.
Great point! thanks Andrew
I've been cooking on a Weber for decades and just recently bought a kamado. That was one of the things that first jumped out at me. I roasted a chicken for about 90 minutes and, the next day, couldn't believe how little charcoal had been used. I suppose that, if you did the math, you could claim that, in about 135 years, the kamado will pay for itself in fuel cost savings.
@@extramurous ahah true I’d we look just to cost for rentability. But for taste if you are not just grilling. The diff is insane. Juicy meat well cooked like nowhere else. Kamado is insane for brisket slow roast, chicken… omg I’m hungry. Gonna cook a burger
Long time Weber user here and your test matches my experience with the Weber. Its a great grill under ideal conditions. But if it rains, its windy, or cold it becomes a challenge to maintain temperature. This would be the main reason for me to upgrade to a Kamado Grill. I might try the Kamado Jr and see how I like before making the commitment to one of the bigger and much more expensive Kamado units. I like that for the price the Weber has a lot of real estate and under ideal conditions it can get the job done. But living in New England, grilling year-round with a Weber is a challenge. Thanks for the video!
I know the outcome already, but I wish you’d do a head to head w the Kamado Joe vs the Weber Summit. It’s lighter and less fragile but I ordered the KJ (because I have learned so much from you). I just wish this video existed in your library of tools because I debated for over a year. Ultimately your instruction plus a cost reduction in the KJ Classic II is what lured me to a final decision.
Another great video. Been cooking on my Weber 26 inch also have portable 18 inch jumbo joe kettle for tri-tips and bratts . mexican food hands down comes out great on it Roasted corn, carne asada, tacos. I do have a slow and sear for my long cooks, It helps save fuel also.It banks coals and sears steaks great. Kamado is great for pizza, loved the pulled pork off it still learning it. I also have a air leak im tying to fix so it limits my cooking on the kamado. Only thing that runs off propane I got is a blackstone flattop.
Love it, where is your air leak?
@@SmokingDadBBQ The kamado I got for $215 home depot floor model is a Vision kamado. The pull out try sits a little funny. I got some lavalock gasket coming in.
Juan Castillo nice. That should fix it
Thanks for the time stamps!
You bet!
love love the videos!!!! can you please do a taste test of charcoal kettle weber vs kamado and maybe pellet if you can get your hands on one? thank you thank you!
Great suggestion! I will try to borrow those once the world opens up again lol
I’ve used gas grills all my life because of time constraints and because that’s what I learned from my father. I bought a Webber kettle about two years ago and I’ll never go back. The flavor is night and day and it’s not as time consuming as I thought. I really enjoy it. Every time I grill my four year old comes out and helps me so hopefully he’ll never grill on gas lol
Thank-you, cheers
Weber kettle is the best grill. I ever had
Really enjoy all your videos and I'm learning alot from them! I'm just wondering why you didn't use the diffuser plate on the Weber? It come with my Weber that I recently bought
Thanks so much Damien. This one (in Canada) didn’t come with it, I understand in some countries it does. It would have helped a bunch
Pretty cool comparison James, every grill has its strengths and weaknesses. I’ve cooked on a BGE years ago and it was a lot of fun. I like having a variety of different cookers and if I got a free kamado I wouldn’t turn it down. :) Take care brother and keep on grillin!
Pickles BBQ thanks so much brother. Take care
One cool thing about a weber is it works like fire pit on cool evenings. Just bought a new one...my 30 year old weber still works well though. The kamodo looks interesting and i'd love to have both but the weber offers more options for the type of cooking i do. And i frequently use Manuka (New Zealand native) in place of charcoal.
Right on
When the video starts with two Kamado's built in you know this boys got his favourite haha
I have a Weber summit and have had several kettles and WSMs but yes there’s lots of red too
Bang for your buck the kettle wins
Ironically, I’m thinking about circling back to a Weber kettle to just “round” out the arsenal. But this gave me pause because I’m in New England and was starting to worry about that lack of insulation during the cold months. Thanks for the reminder.
cheers
Great video James! I actually bought the Kamado as my first grill and then got my Weber. My reasoning for the Weber was for the quick cooks, steaks, chicken thighs, etc... The KJ I use for ribs, brisket, pork shoulder, etc... While I can do most everything on both grills, I do like having the options of both. I would agree with you, if the price is not a concern, KJ is the way to go for the first grill away from gas. I still also have a gas grill, my wife likes her steak and chicken breast on the gas grill.
Thanks for the insights. I think its great having multiple types of tools if you can so thats awesome. If I lived on a farm the grill situation would get out of hand lol
Diddo to that exactly the way I saw it 👍
Que diferencia hay en kamado joe jr y kamado joe kettle joe,veo que tienen el mismo precio,sabria decirme en que se diferencian,gracias
Just to add to my earlier comment. I bought the Weber Master Touch Plus with cover, sear grate, griddle, Wok with steamer and igrill mini thermometer for just under $1,000 (Joe Junior is $900)
The Classic 2 standalone is $2,300, Big Joe 3 Grill is $5,500!! That's a whole lot of food I can buy if I only get the Weber. Maybe it's the shipping and import costs to NZ.
the weber will always win the price value, in my market its just closer than many think for these two models
Great video thanks! I am an entry level griller with a kettle looking to upgrade but I don’t think I’m ready yet. Got two questions here:
1) where to find some good recipes that are easy for kettle to get me going?
2) like your neighbor, if I was to upgrade to a ceramic grill, when would be a good time (like after you can cook this successfully, you’re ready for ceramic)?
Thanks again!
Thanks so much. I don't think there is a set time or anything... my neighbour actually thinks the Joe is easier to run than his kettle was for stabilizing temps so I wouldn't view it as a graduated license type thing which is you need to master grill X or Y before attempting. It really comes down to what you want to do, if you want to tailgate every weekend and toss the grill in the car and go a Kettle has lots of advantages in that scenario as its lighter, and durable. If you want to get into ribs, brisket, pizza etc. and want to buy the SUV of BBQ's that can do most everything than I would consider jumping in the deep end and going for the ceramic grill right away. It's not as daunting as it feels right now at this moment.
I have cooked on propane BBQ my whole life so far. When I had to buy my own BBQ, I went right to kamado because I was attracted to the idea of a BBQ that does NOT rust away and get holes. The versatility of low to high heat was the other benefit. I honestly didn't appreciate the change to charcoal until I started cooking!
And I'm also in Canada so I wonder how it will work in -40
congratulations on the new grill. i grill year round, it does just fine in extreme temps
Weber’s don’t rust away. I have one from 1985 that I still use. I’ve had to replace the air/cleaning fins that burnt away over the years but other than that it still rocks. Not saying it’s better than others just saying they are the longest lasting grills. We will see on 20 more years how these kamados are holding up.
Love this comparison. I do feel you should have compared to the larger Komado. You covered the difference well, but the size difference is much more critical. Especially when looking at cost. You could have also used the less expensive Weber which would have shown a much greater price difference. I use Weber’s (I have multiple), and ceramics (I have multiple). Both are great, and capable of producing great food. Thanks for the channel. I enjoy the content!
I totally agree but with Covid I haven't been able to get my friends Weber Summit. Now that things are clearing up I think a more head to head is in order.
The great thing about Weber’s is they all perform the same. In the US you can buy the base model for $99, and the premium for $165. A beginner could start there if budget was the concern. Adding the slow and sear makes it more versatile. Keep up the great work!
Good stuff James!
Thanks so much Ron
Great video. Those you you stuck with a Weber Kettle, for indirect cooking, put one charcoal basket or both on one side of the grill, put a water pan above that, and then place your meat on the opposite side, way better results for indirect cooking rather than the split charcoal basket method shown here.
Interesting. Thanks!
Or buy a Slow n Sear for the Weber
I have a big joe ll. What are some tips on how to get the temperature up to 700 and 800 degrees. I’m not sure if I’m not using enough coal or if maybe something is wrong with the grill because I did get it second hand. If you have any tips that would be great.
chaserglowka1 check out my top 5 fixes. I suspect you may have misaligned vent draft or an air flow restriction maybe from some ash. Then I would try larger chunks of charcoal vs the small granular kind
Loved the power of habit at 21:54 trying to close the kettle like the kamado !
haha the range of movement from the holder is similar but i guess you could go more vertical than the angled close i have in muscle memory
Great Video mate :) Love my KJ, I started out on a weber kettle too
I love it! Thanks for checking it out and commenting Mike. Much appreciated
@@SmokingDadBBQ Most welcome! your videos are most enjoyable to watch :)
Mike Sabey thanks so much
I swear RUclips must read my mind. I opened the app to search for a KJ vs Weber kettle video and bam this was top of suggested list 🙈
hahah creeps me out when that happens
Thanks for the video btw. I do all of my smoked food in a Masterbuilt electric smoker and a cheap and cheerful bbq. Having paid more for the MES and seeing the results I'm wanting top upgrade to a decent grill.
Like your neighbour though I'm struggling to justify the KJ cost (mainly because I'm a tight fisted Englishman) but I've since watched your KJ Jnr video where you used it as your main grill. Perhaps alongside my MES it would be a good introduction to Kamados and if I do buy a classic later down the line I can keep the jnr for portability. Right?
I started with a very low end kettle, think the cheapest noname one at a big hardware store, then I got a gas grill which was very convenient but I missed the charcoal taste, went out and got a nicer kettle, not webber but one that was similarly priced to the cheaper webbers but spec'd closer to the expensive webbers, recently upgrade to a kjoe series 1 and it is so much better than the kettle, fit and finish, the lid being hinged rather than needing to hang it on the side, the lid fitting perfectly, minimal assembly required, much better airflow and easier ash cleanup, plus the big one low and slow is easy, it is very difficult to hold temp on a kettle
congrats on your new grill
Great overview James on both cookers. I grill 3 or 4 times a week on a kettle and I really don't see the burnt result as you have demonstrated with the bagel... I have no issues cooking indirectly on either of my kettles. On my channel it is just about all Kettle, but I actually own 7 cookers and each one is different as to how they perform and some do better at bbq tasks than others... I guess the right tool for the job. Saying that... I would love to have a kamado but I am running out of space. Great comparison though. Take care James.
thanks Johnny. appreciate an experienced kettle expert like yourself weighing in
Would like to see you do a Weber 22 master touch kettle vs the Kettle Joe shootout
Would like to see this comparison done with the slow and seer insert in the kettle.
Its quite funny, I always imagined myself getting a gas BBQ, then I got a Weber Kettle performer as a wedding gift and suddenly I was grilling daily and then started learning and practicing slow cooking and smoking.
I've now used my weber for 2 years, roughly 2-3 cooks a week and I love it dearly...BUT have my eyes set on the Monolith Le Chef Kamado or Kamado Joe.
Thanks for your videos, very informative. Would like to see a Kamado Joe vs Monolith Kamado if you can get your hands on one!
awesome, thanks. haven't seen one in my neck of the woods (canada)
@@SmokingDadBBQ well I live in Malta which is a tiny island in the south of Europe. Monolith is a German brand and is relatively new on the scene in general though has some rave reviews.
In any case. Please do keep up.the great videos, great to watch and really does make me quite keen to try and experiment on a kamado!
I never had a kamado Joe before.. but they sure look nice n high tech charcoal burner. Good comparison between the two.👍
Thanks 👍. Appreciate the support
really good video. Did a good job presenting the pros and cons, and made a really good case for the Kamado Joe. He also made a good point in how difficult it is to compare these two types of grills since they are so different. I think if you are looking at a true entry point and price, you have to consider that you can get the Original Weber for $109, and the premium for $165 which I believe gives it the advantage. You can also add the accessories over time as you want or need them, which is also nice about the Weber. My biggest question though, why not have both?? If you buy a kettle, and then later upgrade to a ceramic, unless you are super limited on space, why not have the kettle as a backup?
well said. it doesn’t have to be all one vs the other
I'm thinking of getting one of these .... I got a pellet smoker and a real cheap Webber grill ..... I wanna get another charcoal grill that I can smoke on and grill steaks burgers ect .... would you think a big green egg is comparable to the kamado joe ?
i had 4 eggs before i bought my first KJ a few years back and slowly ended up switching over. 1) they are the top two brands so there is no wrong answer (2) I prefer KJ as they have changed the product in a way that actually improves the cooking performance.... one of my first vides was a comparison between the two if you're interested
Last week I upgraded my 18” Weber cattle to the big joe. Wanted a bigger grill and the Weber is slowly rusting at the small metal peaces which hold the grid. I had a hard time to decide between the Weber summit charcoal and the big joe. I went with the big joe for the following reason. In my opinion the three height positions for the grids and the divide and conquer system gives you more versatility to play with. Another point was that the summit has the same parts my current cattle is rusting at, which gave me a bad feeling.
Congratulations on your new grill
Funny - I’m in the exact same boat.
IMHO - a Summit Kamado E6 comparison with a big joe would be a better ep.
Though there was a definite biased the video was very informative. Obviously the kettle would cook it faster, As a cook I would've focused on getting the best possible results on both grills and then comparing the 2.
so long as people are trying cooking on something other than gas the world is a better place.... can't beat the price per sq inch space value of the kettle but its also a bizarre pairing people ask about regularly my neighbour included thus the video
You have an ask catcher in kettle and grill grates lift at sides, hinged gates. Kettle here run at €250-€350 while kamado with same grill gate size is €1000+ the kettle can do low n slow, hot n fat pizza, steaks, bread , rotisserie. Also a basket on a kettle is great help. I grill year round and snake method for a long cook and leave over night, my komado will last longer that is for sure, but I won't be lifting up and bringing with me on a weekend🤣🤣 but they are great grills too
the new kettle joe since it came out is a better comparison ... but it is not as portable as a normal kettle so if your main use case is taking it places that doesn't really change whats the best one to have
Friends don’t let friends sell their kettles, they encourage them to mod their kettles. Grew up with a weber, more used to it. Not as cold in my area. A thing to note however is that the hinged lid does require attention, as the screws can loosen and result in a cracked top. Cheers
Great channel. Got me on the verge of buying a Kamado joe. Do you know of any differences in cooking between the classic 3 and the big joe 3?
Justin Wong thanks Justin. I have a massive man crush on the big joe. It’s not logical, there are no facts to really support it... but I want it bad lol 😂. From using them they work the same just bigger
Hi James. I got a Joe Jr a couple of months ago after watching your vids. Also, just hot a Kick Ash Basket. I need a table for my Jr (getting too old to bend so low) and have been eyeing yours. Please tell me where you got it or, if a build, do you have plans? Would be a good video for you to make. Thanks.
thanks Tony. I just slapped together a box that is hollow so the Joe jr can slide inside for storage ... not that I end up using that feature so in the future I would make it lower as this is just a few too many inches tall for a comfortable grilling position
Did you already work with the new Weber Summit charcoal?
I'm looking for a good comparison between KJ classic and Weber Summit E6
PS love your channel
Not yet! I’ve used the old one but haven’t been able to track down this years model
Hey James, long time no speak lol. So, I now have my KJ Classic III setup - thanks for the unboxing and setup video! 😀 - however, I’ve yet to use my new baby as I’m not sure about firing it up in very cold conditions. I say very cold, but UK cold where I am is about 0c to 4c during the day at the moment. There’s nothing in the manual telling me not to, but I defer to your expert knowledge if you may be so kind to guide me? 😀 loving the videos and loving the journey with my new KJ.
Thanks Muchly! Adam.
congratulations and thanks. hope this helps answer that - ruclips.net/video/xBkzwcRtdbY/видео.html
Do you have a video comparing the various meat probes on the market...I have seen you use a couple of different brands?
good idea, just need a meat stick and i can do a head to head. I just got the meater block and I am liking it more than anything else I have
Love the channel, I love my Kettle with the Slow n Sear, I love my Joe Jr, I love my Green Mountain..... 1st world problems 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️Weber Summitt vs Kamado would also be a great battle.
Right on! Trying to land one from my friend to make that video happen
Everyone should have both!
for sure. they both do different things well
Great video, thought you might have launched a grenade there against some kettle fanatics, but you stayed level.. Comments sectio seems to be polite.... for now 👀. Great video, big fan.
Glad you enjoyed it Matt. This is 100% not intended to be one brand vs. the other... its just a story about my neighbor and his journey so that people who want different things understand which grill does better at some tasks and can make an informed decision. I am team charcoal all the way... anything that gets people grilling is good news in my books
There is another way of looking at it.
You can lower the temperature if the Weber and use radiant heat straight from the coal.
The bagel will not come out black and you save some fuel.
I like the bench to sit the kamado joe in but then how do you cover it?
I just got a Joe jr cover and leave it on top now
I've been doing almost all these recipes on my Joe Jr.
That's awesome. I love cooking on the Jr
hello come from austria, your videos are great. I have a summit charcoal and a timberline 1300. Now I don't know if I should exchange the timberline for a Kamado big joe 3? maybe you can give me a tip. greetings from Austria sirowy's bbq thank you very much
Thanks for watching. Two very different beasts, room for both?
Smoking Dad BBQ hello thanks for your reply I am very happy.
I would have space for three barbecues
I currently have a summit 670, summit charcoal and a timberline 1300.
my idea is to sell the timberline and buy a big joe 3. not sure if that's good?
thank you for your help.
greetings from Austria
sirowy's bbq
Love my Weber Master Touch
it’s a great grill
I think this comparison also could be used for ketel vs any keramic ?
thats fair, thats the main difference
When your grill comes to your desired temp, are you suppose to "brake" and close the top all the way and close the bottom part all the way too?
good question. i slow down but never hard brake closing the vents completely
You'll kill the fire if you shut everything down completely. The goal is to CONTROL the flow of air in (and out, though what goes in must come out) so you have just the right amount of coal combusting to generate the heat necessary to maintain the desired temperature of the grill. Ceramic grills have large thermal mass and are well insulated, so it doesn't take a lot of combustion to generate the heat necessary to maintain a given temperature, but there are enough heat losses that you still need to maintain some combustion (heat generation) to keep the grill at temperature.
Hey James thanks again for doing this comparison. I have two kettles currently but after consuming more of your videos in the last couple days The Kamado Joe is looking even more sexy every video I watch. I’ve basically rolled out a pellet smoker at this point due to your videos, thank you! But as a dad of two younger humans life is not giving up a lot of time. I especially liked the fuel consumption videos but have been eyeing dedicated smokers. I’d be curious to see how offset smoker or a smoky mountain smoker would compare to the Kamado Joe. I do like to cook for the family and friends so my initial thought is go big or go home. But I’d be interested to see your thoughts and those three head-to-head competition. With the sidenote that I do know offset smoker is take time to manage. Thank you so much for what you do and I look forward to seeing that had heads if you’re up for it
i will be adding an offset to play with next year to find out, can't wait to see
I do overnight cooks like brisket and pork butt with my Kettle all the time. I also don’t check the temperature for 11 hours and it’ll still be at least 200 degrees after that time.
The only thing you mentioned that the Kettle can’t do is 900-degree pizza, but I don’t cook pizza anyway.
i went 56 hours without adding fuel recently... i like kettles, anything is better than propane but you're not going to convince me we are in the same ballpark on efficiency. I get it is an apples and oranges comparison to begin with, working on a summit review for a more apples to apples grill comparison
Mate you lost me when I saw you wearing Crocs 🤣
... in all seriousness, nice video. I'm lucky enough to have a few Joes and lots of Kettles, it's always good to have exactly the grill you want but it's not always that easy for everyone!
haha I do love my crocs almost as much as my Bbq’s lol. They are both great grills that serve different purposes and if you can have one of each even better. thanks for checking it out
@@SmokingDadBBQ Crocs are great for going in and out of the house to check on the bbq!!
Can’t decide between the classic and big Joe. I have a family of 5 but a couple of time a year I grill for 10-12 people. Would love to be able to cook side dishes and meat on the same grill. Suggestions?
david shawn with the classic 3 which has a three tier divide and conquer system I can manage so different zones and side dishes. The big joe however makes it a breeze
Read Craigslist and pick up four Weber kettles for under $200 US. That will get you through everything cooked at Thanksgiving.
Finally this is what I am after 😁😁
thanks so much
yes great video! the Weber all day everyday!! lol!
thanks brother
The worry about the Weber kettle rusting is a non-issue. I have owned my Weber since 1986 and it is left outside throughout the year. No problems so far.
awesome, thanks for sharing / confirming
First of all, I love your channel. Please keep up the good work! We’re just beginning a redesign of our outdoor living/kitchen area and I have already reserved space for a Kamado Joe III.
This video caught my eye because I’m a huge fan of the Weber Kettle. While my Joe will be my first ceramic cooker, I’ve cooked on all other kinds of grills/smokers: offset stick burner, Pit Barrel Cooker, gas, Weber Kettle, etc. - just about everything but a pellet smoker (and the aforementioned ceramic.) I thought it was interesting that you used “versatility” as one of the reasons you liked the Joe, which is exactly why I’ve enjoyed the Kettle so much. Granted, I’ve purchased a few add-ones, including the Slow n Sear and the OnlyFire pizza oven kit, but I’ve found that I can do just about anything with the Kettle, including slow, 10+ hour cooks with the Slow n Sear. I’m pretty sure my total investment was under $500 USD and the real comparison is with the Joe II or III, not the Joe Jr. Price-wise, they’re not even close. Granted, 50+ hours is not in the cards for the Kettle, but it’s not in the cards for me either. Since you included the Slow n Sear in the Kettle price when comparing, the indirect comparison probably would have been closer to the Joe Jr. results if you had been able to use one, especially if lighting the charcoal at 1 end of the chamber.
As much as I love my kettle, I know that I’ll love the Joe III even more! I’m really looking forward to learning how to dial in a temp and keep it there for long periods, as well as the moisture retention that so many people rave about.
Thanks again for the great work!
thanks and congrats. this might be of help ruclips.net/video/x3nvkwmwuFw/видео.html
What about a pk 360 vs Komodo comparison video?
Is your left Kamado unlatched for a reason? Should I be storing mine unlatched? Thanks for any help!
Great question. yes you are (after its completely shut down) leave it unlatched to help preserve gasket life
Smoking Dad BBQ great question and response. Glad I read all the comments.
Just the video I was after. I want something to step up my game before committing to a Big Joe 3.
Was thinking a Weber or Napoleon Kettle of some sort, but an Akorn Kamado is a similar price to them here in NZ.
Are budget Kamado’s even any good?
check out my latest Akorn videos!
@@SmokingDadBBQ I’m enjoying the series but just bought a Classic Joe on sale.
@@michaelh5722 nice, enjoy!
Curious of the outcome of the indirect toasting if only one side of the Weber was lit, rather than both sides.
I am sure that would have helped crest more indirect space. I couldn’t reach the temp without both sides lit
Great share. Subbed your channel.
Cooking with Kavita thanks so much and welcome
Propane is God's fuel
For me, overall, they are similar. Obviously, the kamado is better in everything, but the quality of the food will be pretty closer... it is like any other kitchen tools... there is the expensive one that is better and easier to use, but in the end, you need to know how to use it.
I think the kettle is a really nice starting point for everybody. Cheap, easy to use, if you want to use just rarely you can (this is true also for the kamado but for the price, it is a little bit wasted)... it is always there... but if you have a passion for the bbq after some years you will buy the kamado.
well said.... anything beats propane or not grilling at all
I agree with this. I can make a great steak with the kettle but if I have a choice why would I make my life difficult? I think that's the issue here. Of course, I could own one of each and decide which is best for the occasion.
Another great video as I begin the journey of transitioning from a kettle to kamado. A couple of points for the kettle- 1- you mentioned that it’s not possible to get to 800-900 degrees, but with a slow n sear that you mentioned, it is- although only over the direct zone. The one thing that makes me nervous about a kamado- if you overshoot your temp, it’s much harder to to get the temp down because of its awesome heat retention.
it does take some time but if you follow these steps to build your fire it won’t be an issue - ruclips.net/video/x3nvkwmwuFw/видео.html
One thing worth considering how cheap Weber kettles are used. You find plenty of them used for sale
When it comes to price, a grand or so for a cooker than can last years, if not a lifetime. Able to feed family and friends; it’s worth the price. It’ll pay itself off in time
What do you do think of Weber Smokey mountains? Could be an interesting video!
Edit: thoughts on Weber summit?
I use my Weber kettle and wsm14 very often. Would love to own a kamado. I just love bbq toys.
I am hoping to do a summit compare this spring
I've never had dry chicken or brisket on my weber kettle, it just sounds like user error
I just got my first Kamado after coming From a kettle. But don’t worry the 22in kettle isn’t going anywhere. I’m looking forward to having some pork butts on the Kamado with some burgers dogs and veggies on the kettle
ryanpatrick16 grill teamwork is the best. Thanks Ryan
Myself I couldn’t choose I have both!
love it, cheers Rick
please make a video comparing the Weber Summit Charcoal Grill and the Kamado Joe!
I have one lined up to make this happen
You include the Slow n Sear in your price comparison, but then cooked in the kettle without one? And you then concluded the kettle was too direct? 🤔 Surely a komado is much more direct vs a kettle with a Slow n Sear?
I'm considering moving to ceramic for the reduced fuel use, but I'm concerned about the heat being too direct.
this is apples and oranges, but if you add those things the price is more similar than most people believe. There is NO beating the price per capacity of the kettle. The Joe wins with low and slow cooks and winter performance, the kettle wins price and portability
I've had a KJ II for a little more than a year now and have been thinking of adding on, hoping for something that be simpler to use and get up to temp quicker on work days. I have a natural gas line outside, but would prefer to stick with charcoal. I was actually comparing these two grills in my head this morning when a simple search turned up your video (love your channel btw). You certainly have helped with my considerations.
thanks so much. I’d look at the PK original as an option too
My 18" kettle with the charcoal dividers came out to $117 USD shipped to my door. Joe JR which is still much smaller is $400usd not including tax.
Thats a great deal for a Master Touch model shipped with taxes
@@SmokingDadBBQ Not a master touch. Just a plain Jane 18 kettle that does the same thing. Those "fancier" kettles are a waste of money. They throw a $3 lid holder and junk thermometer on them and charge an extra $80 lol.
Commenting as I watch but the Weber kettle you are using is 22” in diameter. The KJ junior that you are comparing it to says it’s 13.5”. 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
You can indirect cook on a kettle but you can’t “convection” cook so anytime I’m smoking im automatically limited to half the grill. beer can chicken doesn’t stand up since their isn’t enough height in the dome and tempature stabilizing is better on a Kamado since I live somewhere very windy and that air does get in through the lid
ryanpatrick16 💯 agree. It’s way better than propane ... but if you’re going for a charcoal grill I thought this would help people decide between the two
I like the red one better, it's pretty! LOL But in all seriousness this is a great comparison video for people to watch who are considering a purchase. Love the bagel test!
Thanks so much!! Bread is kinda my go to test it seems lol
First I like your videos, well made and direct.
I agree on most of your reasoning and yes, the ceramic kamado is a great option. But I don't think the price compares. If you buy the expensive SNS and other stuff, OK.
I have both and use the one I feel is good for my cook. Also the rotisserie option for the kettle is really great.
How about a comparing the Charcoal Summit to your Kamados.
Danson G. Tolman thanks for watching and commenting. Hands down space for the money the Weber is the less expensive so it’s only if you add some bells and whistles does it get close. I am hoping to borrow a friends summit to make this happen once the world opens again. That is more of a fair fight
I enjoy your channel but what’s with the mic quality!! You sound so tinny! Keep up the good work
Thanks, I have ordered a new one ... just waiting for the cable I need. Hoping it really helps as I agree this non powered one doesn’t sound great. hang in there, hope it arrives soon
Could we get a comparison between the Kamado Joe and the Weber Summit Charcoal one day? I’m stuck between these two on which one to get. I feel the summit is closer in cost and function to the Joe than the kettle.
Absolutely, those two are by far more comparable for the price and functionality... I have a friend with one that I am hoping to borrow for that video once social distancing is over so we can make it happen
@@SmokingDadBBQ thank you!
hello come from austria, your videos are great. I have a summit charcoal and a timberline 1300. Now I don't know if I should exchange the timberline for a Kamado big joe 3? maybe you can give me a tip. greetings from Austria sirowy's bbq thank you very much
Have you considered a comparison between kamado Joe and Primo oval? The one thing that bothers me a bit is that the kamado Joe is made in China is there a way you could compare the quality of the two?
Thanks Donny. I don’t have one near me and haven’t cooked on one to be able to have a qualified comment but if anyone reading this in my area has one they can wheel over we could do a video. I’ve read the accessory ecosystem is limited for the unique shape but that might be an outdated perspective
Thanks for the video, looking into the Weber performer delux as my first move from gas to charcoal but this video has me wondering if I should just bite the bullet and go straight for the Kamado Joe!! Looking for advice on models and where to buy. I’m about 45 minutes north of Toronto. The Weber would only be about $550 so was wondering what the best choice is to manage cost vs. versatility as I don’t want to buy another for a while after this.
Thanks and look forward to your advice.
James Taylor that’s awesome James. There isn’t a wrong choice, just depends on what you want to do. The KJ IMO is the sports utility vehicle of BBQ and can do lots of things really well... for me I like going from pizza, steak, ribs or brisket on the same grill. Dicksons bbq in Toronto does free shipping on Kamado Joes
Smoking Dad BBQ thanks James, looks like Lowe’s has 25% off for Victoria Day. Any reason you wouldn’t recommend the joe Classic II vs the three? Doesn’t look like they even sell the III and there doesn’t appear to be a huge difference between the models.
As size concern, I would be curious to see a comparison between the Master-Touch and the Classic
Un Projet de Fou the Webber has more space for less money than the classic. But depending on how you do your indirect with it they end up being pretty similar.... I can fit 6 racks of baby backs on the Classic with the raised grid, I haven’t figured out how to get that many or more indirect on the kettle yet
@@SmokingDadBBQ I agree with you. With the Divide and Conquer plus the extension, you end up with a little more space compared to the kettle.
Would be real nice if you can do a comparison between a Weber Summit Charcoal Grill vs Kamado Big Joe 3 ?
hoping to be able to do that this summer
Looking forward too that !
I have the cheapest of the cheapest 22“ Weber kettle. Can do anything. Even slow cooking with the right setup. Would highly recommend. I also drilled a small hole to add a thermometer. If I were to upgrade, I might get the better version with the enclosed ash catcher. Would never buy a porcelain grill, so over priced.
thanks for watching. anything beats propane
I need a new grill and still really on the fence even after watching this. I've read there are problems with ceramic grills cracking due to all the contraction and expansion over time. Has this been your experience?
thanks Matthew. I use my joes almost daily... haven’t had a warranty issue yet. in 10 years I’ve had a few things on my egg go, which were all replaced without hesitation. the kettle warranty is 2-10 years max depending on the component. so long as you buy a reputable ceramic grill company they have lifetime warranties
The firebox on the new Kamado Joes has a separate base piece and five separate sections that, when held together by a steel ring, make up the bowl of the firebox. When assembled there is about 1/8" gap between each of the sections. This means that the individual sections can expand and contract without stressing the entire bowl.
Gilbert Pilz and if they do break kj replaces it for free
Aaron B this 👆
Agree with Gilbert Pilsz. I think what a lot of people have seen is old one-piece firebox crack. Kamodo Joe doesn't make them like that anymore, and even if you went with a BGE that still uses the one-piece design, a cracked fire-box usually isn't a huge problem. BGE/KJ should replace anything that cracks, but even if they didn't the firebox isn't terribly expensive and easily replacable. It is HIGHLY unlikely that the exterior of a ceramic grill (the expensive part) would crack unless you dropped it.
Thanks for this great channel James. I’m hooked on it and bought myself a Big Joe3 about 2 months ago. Just watched one of the videos the other night and noted that your BJ3 closes with 1 hand. Mine needs 2. One to open the latch or it’s hits the clasp that comes down from the dome. I’m afraid the ceramic may crack if someone else tries to close it. KJ says that there may be an overbite that requires a disengagement tool to fix.
Have you had the same experience? If so how did you fix it? Can you do an instructional video?
A little disappointing it wasn’t perfect on arrival. Bought it new. Hoping you can show how to fix it
Thanks
I do give mine more of a shove. if I do any adjustments this spring I will make a video to show the process
Thank you for the quick reply James. I’ve learned so much in your channel. I appreciate your response. Keep the great videos coming