The wedge abandoned Scrapman, but then something happened that the wedge did not intend. It was picked up by the most unlikely creature imaginable: Kan... One wedge to rule them all, One wedge to find them, One wedge to bring them all, and in aerodynamics bind them.
Idea: Planes with no lift surfaces. Only use wedges as we know from sound barrier videos they have quite strong effect at high speed. No gyros and quantom rudders for increased difficulty.
Day 17: Idea for Trailmakers cooperation challenge: two teams of two people each, you build a vehicle for both teams to use. One person from a team controls one half of the vehicle, and the other person controls the other half. Both people have to be pressing the shoot button to shoot. You make truly amazing content ScrapMan! Please keep your channel alive. 🥺
I just had the thought after watching all these dog fights, in real life, people dont play chicken with dog fights because one pass and its out. Your plane might be able to "tank" a round or 2, but you certainly can't, so its all about turn rates, timely usage of air brakes, flaps etc, to get the advantage on your opponent and line up a clean shot without yourself getting shot at all. I think it would be interesting to see a dog fight more about the tactics with things like that, perhaps by limiting block count to something lower like 75 and using powerful weapons so its about maneuvering to avoid being the first one hit. Rounds would be much faster but that could be fixed with more rounds, and because there will probably just be one plane that has the turn rate advantage that is undeniable, or is so much faster they can get away, etc, perhaps the loser every round could make modifications.
They should try placing weight limits on stuff when they do challenges instead of block limits. Like a maximum weight or even a minimum weight could lend to interesting to things (heavy plane dogfight)
I guess... If Yzuei had a 75% hit-rate from each engagement, while ScrapMan only had 50%, but a landed shot had a 30% chance of disabling Yzuei, compared to ScrapMan's 20%... It would all line up. Those both add up to each of them having the same 15% chance of disabling each other. Those numbers are completely made up, but I think they serve to represent what was happening. ScrapMan gained the advantage in more direct encounters. By taking a more head-on approach, he would effectively guarantee Yzuei a shot on him, but would similarly be granted a clear shot at Yzuei. For Scrap, with only a 50% regular hit-rate, boosting it to a guaranteed hit is a much greater increase for him than it is for Yzuei. With accuracy/evasion no longer a real factor, he gains the upper-hand via his craft's resilience. It more or less comes down to the 20% vs 30%, which works out in his favor. Inversely, Yzuei benefitted from the opposite approach. He was better-off with indirect engagements. Making use of his agility, he could attack from blind spots. By forcing unorthodox approach angles, preventing both parties from targeting vital parts, he could mitigate the danger of having a flimsier vehicle. In this setting, his chance of landing a hit at all, even a minor one, gives him the advantage. This also relates to Scrap's increased performance with stronger weapons. A direct pass, with a direct hit, became more decisive with higher damage weapons. Yzuei was better-suited to the weaker but faster-firing weapons, which he could fire at any time from various positions.
Remember the Olympics you used to do in scrap mechanic? I feel like you've created enough objects (heaviest block, dynamite block, etc etc) that you could get a team together and have a one build for them all challenge. Especially if fellow players (Professor/Yzuei/Whoever else you want) have some interesting challenge ideas for them as well. Could use World objects too similar to picking up exploding barrels that you've done before and the Loop. Could try with all different variants for different challenges. Land/Sea Time Trials/Competitive Races, lots of possibilities with the Olympic idea and the timing fits so cash in?
To further this idea, I've got some sample events: Heaviest Block = Tractor Pull using an actual Tractor Beam. See how far you can move it and IF you can move it how quickly can you do it? Dynamite Slalom Race = Make a small course laced with dynamite that you have to beat everyone's time. Blowing up = DNF (Would be a great antithesis to the Heaviest Block, as now you'd be after maneuverability instead of a straight line.) The Loop = Nothing about the previous challenges should in theory require enough speed to get through the loop. Having this challenge here should ensure everyone goes at least so fast if they want to complete it. All kinds of ideas like that, don't want to write a million words for no one to read it lol.
I feel like a cool experiment would be to try to develop a fly-by-wire system where you have a bunch of speed sensors facing in different directions so that the plane by default flys completely straight without touching the controls, and when you do touch the controls the plane is super manoeuvrable and turns basically on a dime. Simmilar to how real fly by wire systems work the plane would probably be really unstable is that you need the fly by wire to actually fly straight
I like the idea of making bad vehicles. My twist is making them then swapping them, so you build something for your opponent. I would have more strict building rules like it has to have certain parts on it and has to be controllable.
I’d love to see a battle where if you go either too fast or too slow you explode, so you really need to watch how you dive and climb to not lose too much speed
When I read the title I somehow expected something else. I did like the video here. Now that I thought about it maybe it is an idea for a future video. You build the plane for the other player with a few restrictions: Doesnt shoot itself, needs to be able to reach a minimal velocity and maybe a few other things the plane needs to be able to do, so it doesnt crash itself. Functional plane yes, but still as bad as possible to "easily" beat it.
you can try a challenge were you have to build any kind of vehicle but every block have only up to x amount attachment spots, for example if u have a 1by1by1 block then u can only attach to other blocks to it on 3 faces , the same apply to every other block on/in the vehicle
While you are making intentionally stupid fighter planes: Have you ever tried having a dogfight where your weapons point backwards? And what about weapons pointing sideways?
what would be cool, Role reverse, you do PURE visual coolness, he does PURE for purpose. rockcrawlers that can use anchors to actually help crawl up sheer cliffs
a video idea: Try and make the actual worst plane and then the other people use it, you must go through flying with your own plane to make sure it stays in the air. Put minimum counts on different things as necessary.
20:12 time stamp, New Vehicle type ideas, Flying boat battle and sea skimmer batter, flying boat is kind of self explanatory but for inspiration look at history and animated films for a idea, now for the sea skimmer think like the Avatar(Blue people) sequel movie where the ride the "fly fish" creatures that skim the water whilst also flying through the air, the idea is to build small nimble skimmers and you can even add waves so you can glide from different heights battling each other, I think doing a lot of Fantasy type fights would be fun, ranging from star wars space flights and planetary vehicles to the most out there fantasy vehicles like in transformers and dune, there is still a lot of different concepts to be explored! :D
Possible idea: Build Planes that look and function like Planes, except they fly Backwards, kinda like that long ago hilarious infamous Skyrim "Backwards Flying Dragon" Bug! :D (Canard Designs would sadly have to be Banned for OPness...)
You guys should do an automated trick plane challenge where as you fly it, it will automatically do tricks like flips or barrel rolls. It would probably be more fun with 3 or 4 people, with one being the judge. (Ideas: do 2 rounds of a specific trick, then 2 rounds of a trick of each player’s choice.) (extra: try doing 3 tricks in a row 3of different types!)
How about bad hydrodynamics? (Boats & subs) Bad hydrodynamic racing? (Boats & subs) Bad aerodynamic racing? (Air & land) Really bad tanks? (Worst armour you could add (maybe no armour) 50 blocks?) Bad aerodynamics VS bad hydrodynamics? (Planes with depth charges vs subs?)
To be fair to kAN, he spends so much of his time and effort on some new logic contraption that when he gets to the aesthetics, he probably just says, "Screw it, it can be a brick. That's not the part I'm proud of."
Build a mash up of 2 vehicles from your favorite IP's and fight. Land or air. For example you could mate the Winnebago from Spaceballs with Star Trek Enterprise.
I suggest a tower defense challenge where each of you build a "base" with your seat somewhere inside that you have to protect with different guns in different places in the base, and each of you build a vehicle to infiltrate the base. I'd imagine it would be required to use anchor pins under the base and a certain power core limit for the base, maybe increasing the power core limit each round if you want playing as the base if it seems to easy to defeat the base. ofc the infiltrator has infinite respawns, outside the base obviously, and the base has no respawn. Goal: Longest time survived as the base.
im being honest that plane looks like the gotha rammer EDIT I : the gotha rammer is a plane thats ram into the enemy EDIT II : and the front is very heavily shielded
SCRAPMAN, HOW DARE YOU FORGET ABOUT THE WEDGEGANG!!!!!! Next MM: Literal bricks with just gyro stabilization and turning, and a rocket engine. (Yes, the 20 power core rocket engine)
Is it possible to use a weight block on a piston (or something like this) to change a vehicles center of mass in order to throw off the auto aiming lock? Probably not explaining it right but perhapski you know what i mean
You guys should do a sniper duel challenge standing from the furthest points possible on the map and using artillery or rockets or something like that. Turn-based.
Idea: vehicles that are based off ONLY mythical creatures Dragons griffins requirements being that the vehicle must strongly resemble them. and you MUST have a unique way to make them fly walk etc this could be turned into a series due to the interesting nature of the challenge and trying to make something new to create and find inspiration from mythical beast sounds like a awesome idea
next time you for a 4 player match you should swap builds randomly at the start (with a chance to get own), and maybe swap every round as a well (loser rolls first)
kAN must be so proud of Scrapman for building a brick😂
was just about to comment this
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scrapman abandoned wedge gang
@@ゆうるい-林昱睿true LOL
Scrapman casual dip-ing his toes into brick gang be like 🧐🤣
ScrapMan: "It's a literal brick".
Everyone who supports wedge gang: WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN US!
Agreed
No he’s sending a message that de brick is de worst vliegtuig
@@yentldecouck9736 And he was demonstrating why. ;)
Scrapman abandoned wedgegang 😢
The wedge abandoned Scrapman, but then something happened that the wedge did not intend. It was picked up by the most unlikely creature imaginable: Kan...
One wedge to rule them all,
One wedge to find them,
One wedge to bring them all,
and in aerodynamics bind them.
This could be really interesting if the idea is to build a vehicle as bad as possible so that the other person has to use it.
Building each others vehicles :o
Make the worst plane possible. Your opponent has to fly it.
YES
I thought that was what the rules were going to be: you have to demonstrate that the plane is flyable and then your opponent has to fight in it.
Idea: Planes with no lift surfaces. Only use wedges as we know from sound barrier videos they have quite strong effect at high speed.
No gyros and quantom rudders for increased difficulty.
Sounds like that would be two boom-n-zoom planes trying to dogfight. Would be interesting.
Hes already done this
he has already done this
Nope he did it with quantom rudders and gyros my friends.
@@БожидарСтоянов-ъ2ы not really worth doung the samw video again just without stabilisers
Day 17: Idea for Trailmakers cooperation challenge: two teams of two people each, you build a vehicle for both teams to use. One person from a team controls one half of the vehicle, and the other person controls the other half. Both people have to be pressing the shoot button to shoot. You make truly amazing content ScrapMan! Please keep your channel alive. 🥺
This felt like one of the most evenly matched dogfight videos.
Here you go . A battle with FLYING TANKS
After 369 days. Perfecto
A literal block
Tankery at its finest
@@Theflowingcurrent Needs more cute anime girls.
Panzer vor!
Lol, finally! !
so, AC-130's?
In today's video: The Kan challenge.
slab racing
I just had the thought after watching all these dog fights, in real life, people dont play chicken with dog fights because one pass and its out. Your plane might be able to "tank" a round or 2, but you certainly can't, so its all about turn rates, timely usage of air brakes, flaps etc, to get the advantage on your opponent and line up a clean shot without yourself getting shot at all.
I think it would be interesting to see a dog fight more about the tactics with things like that, perhaps by limiting block count to something lower like 75 and using powerful weapons so its about maneuvering to avoid being the first one hit. Rounds would be much faster but that could be fixed with more rounds, and because there will probably just be one plane that has the turn rate advantage that is undeniable, or is so much faster they can get away, etc, perhaps the loser every round could make modifications.
that could really only work if auto aim was disabled
Kan: Happy noise because he proud
You mean: Happy nasle noises. 😂
Why would he proud? Scrap obviously made a brick cause its inferior
wheres the flying tank guy his dreams kinda came true
They should try placing weight limits on stuff when they do challenges instead of block limits. Like a maximum weight or even a minimum weight could lend to interesting to things (heavy plane dogfight)
I think making a small profile will still be a lot better, the arrows might still be red, but 12 red arrows will do a lot better than 60 red arrows
Maybe its like biplane vs fast prop plane the slower you are the more annoying it his to hit you
Scrap man you guys should do fights while carrying explosive barrels
I guess... If Yzuei had a 75% hit-rate from each engagement, while ScrapMan only had 50%, but a landed shot had a 30% chance of disabling Yzuei, compared to ScrapMan's 20%... It would all line up. Those both add up to each of them having the same 15% chance of disabling each other.
Those numbers are completely made up, but I think they serve to represent what was happening.
ScrapMan gained the advantage in more direct encounters. By taking a more head-on approach, he would effectively guarantee Yzuei a shot on him, but would similarly be granted a clear shot at Yzuei. For Scrap, with only a 50% regular hit-rate, boosting it to a guaranteed hit is a much greater increase for him than it is for Yzuei.
With accuracy/evasion no longer a real factor, he gains the upper-hand via his craft's resilience. It more or less comes down to the 20% vs 30%, which works out in his favor.
Inversely, Yzuei benefitted from the opposite approach. He was better-off with indirect engagements. Making use of his agility, he could attack from blind spots. By forcing unorthodox approach angles, preventing both parties from targeting vital parts, he could mitigate the danger of having a flimsier vehicle. In this setting, his chance of landing a hit at all, even a minor one, gives him the advantage.
This also relates to Scrap's increased performance with stronger weapons. A direct pass, with a direct hit, became more decisive with higher damage weapons. Yzuei was better-suited to the weaker but faster-firing weapons, which he could fire at any time from various positions.
Just saying man, I really appreciate this dude! Such an incredible analysis
Suggestions: Suspension battle(custom map or stranded island)
Do a mini playlist of doing all the races with 3 players or just 2
I was imagining the brick but using wings on the inside or as the external housing
I thought something was off with this... it took me a while to realize that Scrap went full brick build without wedges.
Remember the Olympics you used to do in scrap mechanic?
I feel like you've created enough objects (heaviest block, dynamite block, etc etc) that you could get a team together and have a one build for them all challenge. Especially if fellow players (Professor/Yzuei/Whoever else you want) have some interesting challenge ideas for them as well. Could use World objects too similar to picking up exploding barrels that you've done before and the Loop.
Could try with all different variants for different challenges. Land/Sea Time Trials/Competitive Races, lots of possibilities with the Olympic idea and the timing fits so cash in?
To further this idea, I've got some sample events:
Heaviest Block = Tractor Pull using an actual Tractor Beam. See how far you can move it and IF you can move it how quickly can you do it?
Dynamite Slalom Race = Make a small course laced with dynamite that you have to beat everyone's time. Blowing up = DNF (Would be a great antithesis to the Heaviest Block, as now you'd be after maneuverability instead of a straight line.)
The Loop = Nothing about the previous challenges should in theory require enough speed to get through the loop. Having this challenge here should ensure everyone goes at least so fast if they want to complete it.
All kinds of ideas like that, don't want to write a million words for no one to read it lol.
12:43
This thing even carries the pure destructive nature of the brick. Just threw it straight at that poor man.
Waiting till 6 am for a scrap video is best way to start the day
rip u bc its 6 pm
"For a brick, he flew pretty good!"
- Sgt. Avery Johnson, _Halo 2_
17:20 That was such a badass move!
I feel like a cool experiment would be to try to develop a fly-by-wire system where you have a bunch of speed sensors facing in different directions so that the plane by default flys completely straight without touching the controls, and when you do touch the controls the plane is super manoeuvrable and turns basically on a dime.
Simmilar to how real fly by wire systems work the plane would probably be really unstable is that you need the fly by wire to actually fly straight
Cool
Idk if you've done this yet but can you eventually do 3 worst fight jets vs 1 over the top fighter jet (the worst fighter jets have infinite lives )
I like the idea of making bad vehicles. My twist is making them then swapping them, so you build something for your opponent. I would have more strict building rules like it has to have certain parts on it and has to be controllable.
idea for a video: use power couplers as whips
We need a Brick Fighter Free For all, and make sure to invite kAN.
Brick (Hover) Tank vs Brick Boat vs Brick Plane vs Brick Sub.
since you are already doing plane challenges you should try to make a plane that can fly itself and do tricks with no human control
I’d love to see a battle where if you go either too fast or too slow you explode, so you really need to watch how you dive and climb to not lose too much speed
A brick-gang video without kan?!
thIS iS iLLegAL!
"Flying brick".... so he made an F4 phantom😂
Scrap man you should try make buster in trailmakers as a zero gravity spaceman
KAN: SO YOU FINALLY ADMIT THAT BRICKS ARE SUPERIOR TO WEDGES, AHA!!
When I read the title I somehow expected something else. I did like the video here.
Now that I thought about it maybe it is an idea for a future video. You build the plane for the other player with a few restrictions: Doesnt shoot itself, needs to be able to reach a minimal velocity and maybe a few other things the plane needs to be able to do, so it doesnt crash itself. Functional plane yes, but still as bad as possible to "easily" beat it.
Love your unique style, never change!
bot alert
finnferg is a bot he keeps commenting the same thing
human guided missile vs space ships with emps
ScrapMan: gets defeated by a fighter jet.
YZEUI: GETS DEFEATED BY A LITTERAL FLYING BRICK WITH GUNS AND WINGS.
Scrap should put his guns on a sevo that rotates 180 with a button press. Then he can flip guns backwards after passing.
How about a melee dogfight? It would require some interesting planes, and could be tried again when the update is done.
you can try a challenge were you have to build any kind of vehicle but every block have only up to x amount attachment spots, for example if u have a 1by1by1 block then u can only attach to other blocks to it on 3 faces , the same apply to every other block on/in the vehicle
A gamemode where you can choose the weapon you are using per round but every weapon only once could be interesting.
Also making vehicles without wings and rudders like the one in a old video.
You should fight with jankey flying Vehicle that fly in mysterious ways
"Robot" Melee fight. Then, when the collision update comes out, you can revisit it, and see the differences!
Remember the Speed movie? Turn it into a race. Lots of corners to make not slowing down difficult.
new idea,dogfight but only melee
While you are making intentionally stupid fighter planes: Have you ever tried having a dogfight where your weapons point backwards? And what about weapons pointing sideways?
look a plane
no its a bird
no its a cloud
its a flying bri-
THUNK
Still a better idea than flying Tanks
what would be cool, Role reverse, you do PURE visual coolness, he does PURE for purpose. rockcrawlers that can use anchors to actually help crawl up sheer cliffs
Cars with emp guns vs human guided missiles would be interesting
16:32 well... That rhymed perfect.
a video idea: Try and make the actual worst plane and then the other people use it, you must go through flying with your own plane to make sure it stays in the air. Put minimum counts on different things as necessary.
Scrapman, you forgot kans brown streak in scrapmechanic gkitches and thrusters only race, its the fastest brick
This was an interesting insight into the development of the F-4 Phantom
“For a brick, he flew pretty good!” 🚬
suggestion: a dog fight 2v2 one person flies one person shoots and to make it more fun the gun cant target and the gunner or both are in first person
Kan: I am proud of you,scrapman 🫡
May the bricks live forever!
But he just proved that bricks are inferior?
@@Layow. True
20:12 time stamp, New Vehicle type ideas, Flying boat battle and sea skimmer batter, flying boat is kind of self explanatory but for inspiration look at history and animated films for a idea, now for the sea skimmer think like the Avatar(Blue people) sequel movie where the ride the "fly fish" creatures that skim the water whilst also flying through the air, the idea is to build small nimble skimmers and you can even add waves so you can glide from different heights battling each other, I think doing a lot of Fantasy type fights would be fun, ranging from star wars space flights and planetary vehicles to the most out there fantasy vehicles like in transformers and dune, there is still a lot of different concepts to be explored! :D
Possible idea: Build Planes that look and function like Planes, except they fly Backwards, kinda like that long ago hilarious infamous Skyrim "Backwards Flying Dragon" Bug! :D (Canard Designs would sadly have to be Banned for OPness...)
Yo I’ve seen that, I play Skyrim 😂
Brick gang for the win. Great video btw.
kan must be proud of you now
You should have a dogfight where both vehicles must be capable of breaking the sound barrier.
human guided missiles vs the infinite rocket you built
wasnt this the original prompt of the red aerodynamics video
You guys should do an automated trick plane challenge where as you fly it, it will automatically do tricks like flips or barrel rolls. It would probably be more fun with 3 or 4 people, with one being the judge. (Ideas: do 2 rounds of a specific trick, then 2 rounds of a trick of each player’s choice.) (extra: try doing 3 tricks in a row 3of different types!)
How about bad hydrodynamics? (Boats & subs)
Bad hydrodynamic racing? (Boats & subs)
Bad aerodynamic racing? (Air & land)
Really bad tanks? (Worst armour you could add (maybe no armour) 50 blocks?)
Bad aerodynamics VS bad hydrodynamics? (Planes with depth charges vs subs?)
Does this count as flying tanks?
@@PIGGYboi Yes
You should try to not force the head on in your dogfights as you tend to place your important pieces in the front and it exposes your wings
Can you try breaking the sound barier with the worst possible airodynamics
i really liked the old sabotage matches, were each round someone can put a block or blocks to screw iwth the others builds
You should do melee only aircraft battle
we lost him. he is in brick gang now
To be fair to kAN, he spends so much of his time and effort on some new logic contraption that when he gets to the aesthetics, he probably just says, "Screw it, it can be a brick. That's not the part I'm proud of."
Build a mash up of 2 vehicles from your favorite IP's and fight. Land or air. For example you could mate the Winnebago from Spaceballs with Star Trek Enterprise.
When the damage update comes out you should make a hammer car race- cars with big hammers they can swing down and smash your opponent with lmao
I suggest a tower defense challenge where each of you build a "base" with your seat somewhere inside that you have to protect with different guns in different places in the base, and each of you build a vehicle to infiltrate the base. I'd imagine it would be required to use anchor pins under the base and a certain power core limit for the base, maybe increasing the power core limit each round if you want playing as the base if it seems to easy to defeat the base. ofc the infiltrator has infinite respawns, outside the base obviously, and the base has no respawn. Goal: Longest time survived as the base.
I swear "Beautifly Terrible" should be new merch, it describes most of ScrapMan's tests.
im being honest that plane looks like the gotha rammer
EDIT I : the gotha rammer is a plane thats ram into the enemy
EDIT II : and the front is very heavily shielded
SCRAPMAN, HOW DARE YOU FORGET ABOUT THE WEDGEGANG!!!!!!
Next MM: Literal bricks with just gyro stabilization and turning, and a rocket engine. (Yes, the 20 power core rocket engine)
Bro the "oh thruuust" got me😂😅
Is it possible to use a weight block on a piston (or something like this) to change a vehicles center of mass in order to throw off the auto aiming lock? Probably not explaining it right but perhapski you know what i mean
maybe some creative way to simulate flares or chaff
I've seen people using glitches to make small parts fly around them in order to throw off the auto aim, so yes
Imagine Red Bull using this idea as a marketing campaign, pouring a can of red bull on a brick and saying red bull even gives a brick wings
Do a reverse control dogfight. Left = right, up = down, and reverse the cannon controls too 🙂
You guys should do a sniper duel challenge standing from the furthest points possible on the map and using artillery or rockets or something like that. Turn-based.
No drag glitch would’ve been crazy considering that in order to do it all the aerodynamics have to be red
This makes me really want to see "melee only dogfights"
You should do the same but you have to build the plane for the other person
Brick squad would be so proud of you
what about the worst aerodynamic car race evolution
yall should revisit all of the old island challenges i would enjoy seeing that
Dogfight evolution seeing what the best evolution of a dog fight plane would be cool
Idea: vehicles that are based off ONLY mythical creatures Dragons griffins requirements being that the vehicle must strongly resemble them. and you MUST have a unique way to make them fly walk etc this could be turned into a series due to the interesting nature of the challenge and trying to make something new to create and find inspiration from mythical beast sounds like a awesome idea
You should do supersonic dogfight 😅
Can you make a parachute with bad aerodynamics?
18:16 synced wows 👌
next time you for a 4 player match you should swap builds randomly at the start (with a chance to get own), and maybe swap every round as a well (loser rolls first)
The slow vehicle dog fights look more fun and realistic
You guys should do a lifting body design dog fight competition