Planetarium showdown: National Geographic Astro vs Sega Homestar Original vs Sega Homestar Flux
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Having recently reviewer the National Geographic Astro planetarium it seemed fitting to update my vs video to put it up against the Sega Homestar Original and Flux. They're available from:
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you would think with all the features, they would also have a brightness setting. that way you can dim the flux if it is too bright in the room. problem solved.
The original and NATG ones just look like you’re looking up at the night sky. The flux makes you feel like you’re literally in space looking at different galaxies and stars
Yeah, that’s what I love about the flux. Feels like I’m in interstellar.
I have had the Flux for a year now and with the selection of disks you can buy it wins hands down for realism, i particularly like the overlay disk that can be added to the sky disks and shows all the trees round the edges, it really gives a sense of being in a forest clearing at night.
PS the "taiga" forest disc can be found at Astrial discs.
Hello, could u post a link to this overlay tree disc? I cannot find it, cheers:)
You made me fall in love with the Flux. I’m getting it thanks to you. Great video! Thank you.
Did you get it?
Why can’t anyone reply I ordered April 17 still nothing it’s coming today I know it’s destiny May the 4th be with you🤓🤓🤓😎😎😎
@@darkrevenge950 How is your flux? Is it dimmable?
@@Tcnj80 I gave it to my niece for Christmas last year they are pretty cool still
@@Tcnj80 no they are not dimmable
I think I'd prefer the sharpness of the flux, but the brightness of the original Homestar.
I agree with you! I hope one day the planetarium projectors can offer manual focus + brightness control (and more disks featuring different sky conditions) uwu...
give me lemon pie with iced latte! I’m sure I once saw an article on a new kind of planetarium, which was to be some kind of high resolution colour projector type tech.
Feels to me like this area of tech is in need of an awesome modern day excitement injection.
flux wins every time. only downside is the price though.
It’s a shame that they never once go on sale. One would think because of it being so inaccessible for many, they’d lower the price at least once or twice a year ..
@@southphillylilly Yeah. When there are 3 products and theirs are the best, they know people will buy them
@@southphillylilly they probably need big investment too mass produce and sell at a lower price.
TomGodson I caved and bought it. I’m happy I did I absolutely love it. The only issue, is that I’m having trouble finding other discs....
@@southphillylilly I did the same. The disks with the earth looks a bit tacky
Still think the original Sega is the best. The flux just looks weird to me. Too many stars, but too bright. Even when I think of being in dark sky areas it just didn’t look like the flux. Maybe a middle ground between the two would be nice but for me I’d pick original Sega model of these three
I've got the Flux version a while back, but at almost twice the price of the Original I wonder if it was actually worth it. It's impressive, but it does keep you awake with its brightness. The Original seems better if you want mood lighting for sleeping or something.
I intentionally went with the Original since it has a more natural appearance.
Thanks that the answer I was looking for
@@WakeRunSleep I also got the Stellar Nursery Blooms disc and it's great!
Can the flux light be dimmed any?
Oh i like something at night
I think I would get the original because its softer and the point is to make it seem like I'm sleeping outdoors under the stars. Also I don't want it to be too bright or I can't sleep
Mate... I've almost blown up my monitor to kill your fly :D
Thanks for reviewing this 3 different star projector. Now I know which one I like to get for myself.The third one(flux) is look more realistic.
Elyta Agustin it looks nice but it’s much more condensed than the original. The original covers a wider area good for a bedroom ceiling
imagine a 3d projector holographic 😱😱
Years ago my mate bought this thing called a Lazerpod, never has there been anything close to its greatness, wish they still made them. I thought we would have moved further than this by now. Guess I'll be waiting another 10 years before someone can top it.
it's probably like cellphones, small increments of improvement, but then every 10 years there is a big jump
After seeing this...im going with the original one. Like the darker more realistic look of the night sky
Same here came across this video because I couldn't decide. Going to get the original.
do u regret it? i cant make my mind up
Mark, thank you for your wonderful video. I watched with my girlfriend and it made my night. You are the best!
Thank you, I hope you (and she) have subscribed so you never miss a video 😉
Purchased the Flux a few days ago after seeing there were reviews on it. I moved to a the suburbs and can see and take photos of the night sky which resembles the Flux 100 percent. Mind you looking up at the stars and rotating yourself is just an awe inspiring experience. With Winter over but Spring here I still have a while till I see a clear night so yes I need to see them and this is a great option I believe. Looking at photos is great even on a big screen but I would enjoy the rotation as I manually rotate myself when seeing them. I hope it lives up to my expectations especially because I live in a historic home and the ceilings are high and large. I found the original was still very realistic but again I recall the brightness of reality and that is the flux not the original. Thank you for reviewing this for me. I plan on having sounds of crickets on while watching. I can’t wait to finally relax with all this “other stuff” in the world going on. Thank you again for the reviews- your friend from Canada.
Hello! What are your thoughts on the flux?
Cassidy Rose I tried it on 12 foot ceilings and 8 foot. On the 12 foot ceilings it will not focus at all. It’s exhausting to look at it to be honest. On the 8 foot ones it does focus but not entirely on a large patch of stars and also the edges. I think it also goes blurry after a while and I have to refocus using the focus ring. For that purpose I will be sending it back. I do know that if I had a textured ceiling, say popcorn, it would look like the stars are twinkling. I like the thought of it but for 250 CAD it’s not worth it. There are very many stars and as soon as you turn it on it wows you but then when your eyes adjust you realize it will always remain blurry. I also found that it stops rotating as well. I must have gotten someone else’s dud and will ask for a replacement if still blurry on the 8 foot ceilings they can keep it. The large and medium stars have a blue and red tinge just like the tictok app colours. It is very distracting. I see these stars in real life so this was purchased for cold winter nights. Maybe by next year they will come out with a new one. I waited 21 days to be disappointed. If it was clear, even with the edges blurry I would keep it. Hope this helped some.
@@eradanslherbe hi era. Thanks for your write ups. I have high popcorn ceilings. Would you recommend I go with the original? Is it only the flux that is blurry, or is the original also blurry? What is the max recommended distance away from the ceiling to place the projector? Thanks.
Jacob I only have the Flux. It is not as bright as you think. The only clear part is about a foot radius from the center while the rest is blurry. The most blurry, which is appalling, is this the other end of the large gathered stars. If you hold it in your hand to a wall about 2 feet away it is clear excluding that one area that remains blurry. The focus ring also moves on its own. So what you end up with is constantly having to re-focus for something you have to stare at dead center. Customer service was kind and gave me a return label but as I asked them over and over for another to be sent out after they received mine I got zero response. I assume I got someone else’s and are weary to repurchase after the non-response. Careful you may get mine or someone else’s used one. Took 3 business weeks to get to Canada just so you know. If the Flux isn’t as bright as it seems, unless you view it through your phone which is ridiculous, I would be weary to buy it Jacob. Go to amazon and try to figure out which reviews are not from the seller. All my best :)
I think the National Geographic one is kinda cool because it reveals more of the disc as it rotates but the flux is amazing like it’s literally like you’re in space I love it
how much is the National Geographic one cost, i couldn’t find it but I did find the flux which was almost $200!
@@andrestejada4 im pretty sure he said like 30 $ but its not nearly as good quality as the fkux
For the cost of these you could buy true full HD digital projector and create content using some of the vast royalty-free content off the web.
I'm so sorry for my ignorance. Why on earth are these machines so bloody expensive? All they do is project? I can't justify spending that amount.
@@comentario6201 yes I know that you can buy cheaper models but that's not the answer to my question. I want to know why are these models so expensive? What makes them this expensive?
@@comentario6201 that doesn't answer his questions.
@@markodabrowski1040 I believe the price is so high based on..on..on.?? Well nothing comes to my mind but I think marketing could be the answer?? But soon competition will bring it down
Marko Dabrowski brand
10 years to do a single chroma disc with 40 million stars . Do you got the time to do it????
4:34 Thr Flux looks so bright I don't think I can sleep with it on. Does it have a brightness setting? Anyone know if its as bright as it is in person as its shown in the video? If so, I may need to go with the original.
is doesnt, the cameras are more sensible to light than human eyes, in the video will be brigther than you will be seen in the real life
Thank you Mark for posting this comparison. Part of my job is tuning star fields at a planetarium. I have a Homestar original at home for family use. Your review intrigues me. You've compared how each looks out of the box but it's difficult to get that across through video. I'm wondering if however, you can compare Apples to Apples getting down to the engineering of the projector themselves. For example, 1) use the same star disc in both the Flux and Homestar. Then we can rule out star fields as a variable. More and Bright discs like the Flux disc are breathtaking but not very realistic and crazy hard to find constellations with. 2) Judge brightness from the same star disc. Does the Flux actually have more lumens or is it just having more (and larger) stars on it's plate? (i.e. brighter)
3) Perhaps the MOST important, is optics and focus quality. I've seen in your video (as at my house) that focus of the Homestar is relegated to a relatively small portion of the viewable area. The stars on the periphery have smears or can't be focused. It would be really neat to set up your tests with same disc, room position and get it be focused best with no rotation. Then zoom camera in on same constellations both near zenith and edges to see if indeed optics are actually better. DOES the Flux have better sky wide focus? If the Flux has better optics, I'd buy one in a heartbeat and put in the original disc. Cheers!
such a great comment - it would be nice to see Mark reply to these points, after all: he did ask for feedback!
Very good question! I was actually also wondering if the FLUX looked too unrealistic with its brightness. A dimmer would have been the solution to a simple problem, I guess ;)
Completely agree! If indeed the optics are better in the Flux, perhaps an optic filter to reduce the brightness would work best instead of a dimmer which might be more work to hack especially if the LED is not dimmable.
Hi Mark, thanks for the reviews. I am tempted to get the Flux, but the price is a bit too much. I've been looking for a cheaper price but I can't seem to find even with the blackfriday sale.
Same here :)
Thanks a lot for this video, you saved me from spending money on a home planetarium :) My answer... None of them seem worth paying more than 15 Euros...
I prefer the original flux because it's closer to what you can see by eye at night in my area (NH).
Flux all day. That's the one I'm getting. Thanks for the video.
After watching this, I just bought a used origional.
The flux looks like regular white noise. I won't want to project essentially an old CRT TV onto my ceiling.
I'd love to own any of them, but the flux looks incredible
What is the best one out there if price doesn't matter? Is there anything that can connect to the Internet and project what is live in the world?
Wow, that would be outstanding!!
I like the original, but the flux would be good if it wasn't more expensive. Not sure the extra brightness is worth the extra cost. I like the mat finish. The oval for the NG is a deal breaker.
The reviews on Amazon are brutal!
What are they about ? 0.o
@@modchannel8387 how fuzzy the stars look on the Flux and that it doesn't project as far if furniture is in the way compared to something like the Blisslights projector. They said the max price for the Flux should be $90
@@PGOuma omg. Blisslights? Nothing about blisslights is realistic. Green laser dots in a uniform pattern. :/ no comparison.
Would the flux be too bright for a bedtime night light projector?
That's my concern too
Wondering also.
Yoh fellas I ordered this in April 17 i hope it comes today May the 4th be with meeeeee🥳🥳😏😏🤓🤓🤓 I ordered the Flux 💪
@@darkrevenge950 hey, any news?
Jey it came last week it’s cool as fuck
Why don't you show the same view for all 3 units? When you do the side-by-side comparison at 4:45, you've used a bland starfield the Nat Geo and Sega Original, while the Flux has a galaxy. That's kind of weighted, don't you think? Using a more impressive image for the unit you prefer seems to show a little bias, no?
Aside from that, why does the Flux's image at 4:45 show far less stars opposite the galaxy than the image at 4:08? The difference is drastic!
i wonder the same thing
Like the flux but I find it a bit overwhelming, personally I like the original but both are beautiful in their own ways☺️
Btw, whatever you get (wether original or flux) you won't be disappointed.
Is the original too dark? I would of course use it at night.
Was trying to find out if the sega disappearing content disc or any of the discs could work in the national geographic projector and you answered it for me so thankyou!
You're welcome 👍
Does it really look like how you get it on camera? The Flux seems too sharp and too busy. I want to buy one but cant decide. Is the original too dark?
the flux is not so bright, the cameras are more sensible to light than human eyes, in the video will be brigther than you will be seen in the real life
thanks for your review, it helps a lot!
Just checked the link for the Original the price hike is astronomical! From £70 to now almost £120. 😮
Thanks for the review, went with the Flux 👍
happy or too bright?
original hands down for me, way more mood in it
So cool, I love planetariums.
Hey Mark! I was wondering if you can tell me if the original Sega or the flux makes any noise or loud noises. I'm a light sleeper and I would like to have one in my bedroom but in years past other types have been very noisy and just didn't work for me. Thanks so much for your help!💕
It makes some noise, see: ruclips.net/video/3y8nx1WVWfY/видео.html
Have you reviewed or looked at the Dark Sky DS-1? It seems like a much better product than any of these, but I would love to see a side by side video comparison of the projections between it and the flux or if there is another one closer in the league with the Dark Sky DS-1.
Yes I've reviewed the DS1 and also compared it to the Flux ruclips.net/video/0RPzMIXlGk8/видео.html
I bought the flux and it's garbage. Someone could make a really awesome version of this thing fairly easy I believe. Not sure why the effort isn't being put into it.
Bravo!!! Only reason I bought the Flux was due to your review. But after this video, i think going with the original or flux doesn't hurt at all. I might actually buy the original too.
Any updates?
Do you believe the flux is worth the price or should I just buy the original?
The newest flux with the Mate finish
Do the Sega versions have the ability to project still images or are they always rotating?
They can project still images
You can turn the setting off and on for movement
Hi I'm thinking of getting a Homestar Flux for other half for Xmas, but we have an artex ceiling (with the little dimples) - does anyone know if this will ruin the effect? We don't have a completely smooth/flat ceiling in the house and it will be a lot of money if it doesn't work :) Maybe because it's a high quality projection it won't be an issue, but if anyone has experience of projecting onto a non-smooth ceiling I'd love to hear your comments, thanks!
Jessica Neumann I know this doesn’t directly solve your issue, but you can project them on the wall as well. That’s what I would do just because I don’t go to sleep looking straight up
@@mirandabug Thanks :)
@@jessicaneumann6161 argh her answer isnt here anymore, what did she say?? is it a show stopper?
Is there a projector that shows the sky as per GPS location( much like those phone apps do)?
id say get all three and blend them
I got one off shein for under 50bucks. and for what it is it's pretty damm good. it has 12 slides.
called 12 in 1 galaxy projector.
omg i live in Latin America and idk how get that flux thing but its AMAZING! great video tho,.
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it 😁
are there any planetarium that would react to music or sounds?
can u actually match the stars , are they to scale, do they have an ability to name the stars on the screen ?
I've just purchased a flux thanks to your review. Could you recommend any store I could purchase the discs from? Thanks
The offical online store for the discs is: www.astrial.com/en/index.html Enjoy!
Love your videos. Do you prefer dark skys over sega flux? Is ds1 worth double the cost?
They're both great devices, assuming budget is no problem (and that you can get hold of both) it really comes down to which design you prefer and the features on offer. I'd say most people will be very happy with the Flux.
I like the look of these as I have visited the Planetarium in London and it was fantastic experience. Looking at the videos it suggests that the only colours are black and white. Is this the case ? As I would
love to see something similar to the multi colours of the cloud Nebula which you see on posters.
I think they have a disk called Nebula.
I bought the original less than a month ago and it stopped rotating. It also gets warm. I'm sending it back. Does the flux have the same issues or did they correct it?
Where can I get them? I’m from Mexico but it seems they are not ship here:/
HI does a 360 project come with a custom input like a mobile phone or PC mirror. I want to display my own stuff.
No it's not that sort of projector. You want something like this: ruclips.net/video/4RXQYfGKVkA/видео.html
@@markjdraper I also want it to curve, or dome, or 180 degree curve. to make it immersive.
Is it normal that the picture at the side is out of focus? (Flux) That's a problem that I have. In the middle the stars are clear and at the sides not.
Yes it's nornal. The picture is coming out of a lense, and you're projecting it on a flat wall.
Can that dc to usb lead from new homestsr flux (at 1:47) be plugged in to power original homestar? Cheers!
Hi I just bought flux but stars appear squared.looks horrible.did anyone face something like that?
So if I buy One of them the projector is ready or I have to buy something like what I’m gonna see?
Just curious- whould these work put inside a car to have it project on the roof or would it be way to close
Thought about the flux but rather wait longer and save up for a ds1
what is a ds1?
hi Mark, wondering what your views are on the Omegon Star Theater Pro Planetarium, amazon selling them for £107, does it use same discs as Flux ?
The Orginal is miles better, kooks more natural and milkyway looks better, the flux us unnatural and milkyway can see all the stars as individual stars, not looking natural at all. Was looking at the flux, but all the videos don't look right, so ended up with the standard, looks miles better, even my astronomy friends think so.
Mark, what is your favorite under $300 so far? I really want the dark sky's chrome but a bit high for a night light. I'm looking for clarity and accuracy.
I'd say for under 300,the Flux.
Great review. I've done some extensive research and my preference is the original it appears to display a more realistic UK night sky without the condensed busyness.
My problem is i cannot find the original for £70 as you displayed. Any links or advice would be very appreciated. Many thanks.
justin ranger I purchased it here in America on Amazon.I’m not sure if this 70 pounds was referenced in the video? I guess that would make it about 92 American dollars? I paid more than that, but US$119 and I’d say it’s quite worth it.
Hi Mark!! Thankyou so much for this video :) I just have a quick question - is it the included disc’s make the brightness level different? Or will all the extra discs look brighter also in the flux? We are looking at getting this for our 3 month old as we currently use Christmas laser lights on the ceiling before bed each night, and would love to know if it’s possible to have both the bright and not so bright option on the flux but simply buying the original disc that came with the original version ☺️ Thankyou!
Hi Caroline, first of all congratulations on the new addition to your family! The flux doesn't have any brightness adjustment options and the couple of discs I've tried have all been about the same brightness. If you've not seen it, check out this video where I compare a load of projectors, see if any look like what you're after ruclips.net/video/MgsQXP8M66M/видео.html
Depends what you mean by bright, when you watch the other video you'll see these actually don't give off a lot of light filling the room, but lower cost ones do. But I'll be quiet now, don't want to wake baby! 😴 🤫
@@markjdraper Thankyou so much!! I just watched it 😃 I think I actually like the original better as it didn’t have as definite edge as the flux but it wasn’t as evident in this video above. Am I right in saying that? 🙂 but would the discs of day time earth etc look as good in the original as the flux as I am keen to get some extra discs 😅 I don’t mind about price, I am just more wanting a beautiful visual experience for my little one ☺️
The Flux is a brighter projector so that is probably causing it to look sharper. I've not tried many of the other discs, they're on my to-do list as I'm sure people would like to see examples of them, once it gets to winter and is dark again I may do a video on them but by that point I'm sure you'll be the expert on which ones are best! Coincidentally the reason I even have the Sega Original was I thought it would be a nice thing for my niece, but turned out she was more interested in thing she could grab hold of, so I was given it back, good job as well considering all the subsequent videos I've done with it.
@@markjdraper haha 😂 well - it’s very lucky for us your niece wasn’t as much into it 🙌🏻 I think we will go for the flux after seeing how much more hi def it looks as you described in another one of your videos with just original vs flux I found ☺️ it’ll be better for the discs I am guessing if it’s brighter ☺️ thanks for all your help and videos Mark they really helped me make a more informed choice 🙌🏻
Do all 3 have the shooting star function?
I like the flux, great video thanks.
Thanks for watching!
You mentioned you can buy different discs for the original and flux ... so can you ínstert the disc with a lot of starts on the original or it’s only the for the flux and vice versa ...?
Both discs are interchangeable between to two.
Which one can you dim the brightness
I am a little late to this video, so hopefully someone can see this comment. Will any of these project well on textures ceilings? In addition to my textured ceilings, my room is only 7ft tall. I want to get a clear projector because I love looking at (real) stars more than anything, and I just want to be sure I am finding the best match. Thanks to anyone who can give some input!
Edit: Would a projector be a better option for me? I saw his video on the projector being used to recreate planetarium projections, but I still worry about the texture and height of my ceilings.
Mark Draper Yes it does, thank you! I just purchased the Flux, so I’m excited to get to use it once it comes in.
i prefer the original !! much more realistic !
Are all the discs compatible on all of the devices?
good job thank you
The national geographic ASTRO is 350$ Canadian I don't see how it can only be 90$ US as you stated our dollar isn't that bad
It's likely a 3rd party seller looking to take advantage of a lack of stock on the site, that's a massively over inflated price for this product.
What do these do other than to have the stars projected..Can we pause, zoom in a star, locate a star, get some details about it ? Thanks
Would this look weird on a ceiling with a paint pattern
the sega homestar original looks like your in a more light polluted area same with the astro but I like the flux cause it looks like your in a area without much light pollution
Hello. I see you are familliar with those planetariums. Can you tell me please what is the difference between HOME STAR PRO V2 and HOME STAR original/flux i can't find any info in the net ...
Hello, I'm not familiar with the Pro V2, but it sounds like it's part of the Homestar familiar of products. The Flux is the newer version of the original, it has a brighter bulb and is powered by USB but takes the same discs as the original.
Thanks for the fast respod. It is very strange that there is no any info for that V1 and V2 modifications. It is very expencive but i can't understand why... Is there smething more then original and flux...
Hi Mark, You did this vid 2 years ago. Is there any improvement on the Sega or any others ? Not as much a the DS -1 . I'm looking to buy one.
As far as I know the Flux remains the newest model. I checked in with the team last year and they indicated they didn't have any plans to make a new one,, the consider the Flux to be spot on.
@@markjdraper Thanks for taken time to reply Mate,and for the info. Have a good Christmas 🎄 and take care. Now I have to try find one .😆
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I bought the flux for my wife we were both very underwhelmed! We also bought the aurora borealis disk which looks like Picasso has thrown his spare paint on the ceiling complete waste of £170+ we have used this twice and it's back in its box!
It’s really not Amazing to see.
I have found an interesting one, but then aggain it cost 600 US dollar
Big Shooter what’s it called??
The room has to be completely dark...only the flux should be the light in the room. It is underwhelming if there is any other light on in the room...especially during the day and you have light entering through the shades. This is the best during the night. I would play the cosmic meditation album...it is awesome!
@@jacquescough3549 lool this guy Bigshooter mentions something and doesnt even say what it is
Stewart Jones sell it to me
Thank you for video!
My pleasure!
Do all these (esp the Flux) have to be a maximum of 20 inches from the wall? Can they project on a ceiling with clarity?
I noticed the more uneven the ceiling is, you would notice the stars appear to be moving quickly in a different direction...feel like they are alive. Especially on a popcorn ceiling
Anyway, which one is the best??
in my opinion, flux is the clearer than others!
DS1 DESTROY THEM ALL.
Does anyone know any UK supplies for the flux? Its on amazing but when I choose ‘see buying options’ it doesn’t say much. Want to try and avoid custom charges on top of everything 😅
Yeah just bought mine from Rother Valley optics Google them
Thanks very much! :)
@@ameliawhitehead3944 don't do it! Mine was very hard to focus and I'm probably giving it back
Ahh thanks for the heads up!
Mark, where can i Buy It at that price ?? I'm really interested ! Please answer me.🙏
Prices were taken from Amazon at the time I made the video.
Which one is the best?
Rather than redirect to amazon where the description of the products is pretty poor (and you can be missguided between regular and flux version pretty fast), why don't you redirect to the brand website itslef tho?
I mean, it's probably better to buy it there, pretty easilly found googling "segatoys space"
Where can I purchase it in india
I think the Sega Homestar Original is the best.
Which is quietest?
See ruclips.net/video/3y8nx1WVWfY/видео.html
Flux is way too bright. It should be pleasing to they eye and not so bright you can't sleep... like a REAL night sky!
Flux looks great
No colors ??
the saga is not as bright but the flux is alot better with bright and has more detail than the saga and the gio it all comes down the cost the more you pay the more better it is simple
link where i can find the other disc?
top of screen on right the arrow either Amazon or ebay
Flux i will buy it now.