So cool. I would have stuck a levelled tee box halfway down the slope on the side of the property.. nice elevated tee shot down to the green! Great finished product
You guys went all out, looks nice but for the life of me, I don’t know why you would put an island with rock smack in the middle. other than that it’s perfect. A bunker would have made sense maybe but right in the middle wouldn’t be the place for that either. Completely limits the putting green especially with all that effort you put in.
For shaping the slopes, did you slope the ground and then put an even height of gravel and sand over it. Or did you make the ground perfectly flat and then vary the height of the gravel and sand to get the slopes.
We used a combination of different rock bases to meet our preferred heights. Adding 20+ inches of dirt would end up leading to a lot of settling. Packing rock in inch layers protects you from any future problems. Thanks for the question!
Damn that would have cost a bomb! Can appreciate that as a Landscaper myself. Nice work, tough to understand some of the shit you’re talking about as I’m from Australia but I can tell you guys do everything to the book. Good to see.
Great content! Good to see the whole process, I would love a putting green that size mines quite a bit smaller. But I have built a 6 hole mini golf course in the backyard! I make shorts and videos on here if your interested in it! Keep up with the great videos
Correct! If you DIY, you'd only spend about 3-5K TOPS. Ours for a small front yard and back costed about 2K to DIY. Our neighbour spent about 25K for a similar sized land.
I’ve been working on mine for a year but I had to build a retaining wall. I am using 1.5 inch minis cream road base for most of the base with decomposed granite for the final inch. Maybe something finer to finish? Thoughts?
This would have cost roughly 2x my annual salary 😅. I will just keep mowing the weeds in my lawn and watch more videos like this to feel the satisfication like the owner would have 😂Great job tho 👍
I'd love to have these guys do a green for me. It would be a more practical design than these people wanted though. I'd reduce the hard edges and what the heck is the deal with that useless island?
Good questions! They wanted to optimize their entire yard at the bottom of the hill, therefore we went with the hard edges to maximize the area. Also, our clients wanted a couple of tiers with an island in the middle that would allow kids to treat the green as individual golf holes with obstacles to play around.
@@TheMasonGangunderstood. But that wall in the middle seems not worth it. Considering how much work went into that especially. I’d go with one big Rock but anything rocky seems sketchy if hitting shots into. I would prefer a bunker kids can also play in or water hazard kids can swim or a fish pond (which would also need rocks). But if I was the client I would want every inch of the putting mat used and then maybe a bit of the longer stuff. But amazing work! Your attention to detail is incredible The way you seemed the pieces looks marvelous.
@@TheMasonGang I'm about to do one in my backyard. I like the island, but would it make more sense to install that after? Lay the stones on top of the grass instead of cutting around? I don't know the pros and cons of that
They sell a 36” wide 2,500# rated tandem axle dump trailer for $1,300. It’s marketed to atvs, buy it’d save you a ton of trips and hours on your $30,000+ machine.
HI! Thank you for your video, it’s amazing! Do you have any suggestions on how to fix line marks/indentations from wheels of a heavy sander? We had workmen finishing the floor of our pool house and they took the floor sander over our putting green which caused the indentations. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated! Thank you
Hi I have been installing putting greens and artificial turf for approximately 4 years in Florida. To me it sounds like your problem is the base is indented, the only way to fix that properly would be to pull the turf back and fix the base underneath.
Perhaps you could use a plate compactor with a rubber mat attachment to protect the surface, or perhaps a canvas tarp or blanket and vibrate it back to level. Try doing it dry first, if that doesn’t do it, water it down. May have to do more area than what is damaged.
We used several different materials Stephen. First we started with a 3/4"-1" clear rock (no fines) so water could more easily percolate into the soil. After that, we added the typical class five until we were within two inches of our finished height. At that point we changed over to 1/4" minus to eliminate any chance of larger rocks making it to the surface. Although all of this rock is water permeable, a heavy rain will still lead to water problems. With that being said, we sloped the entire green north to south, adding a French drain along the south side to catch the water and drain out below the landscape ridge that frames in the entire green with plants. I hope this helps!
@@TheMasonGang Thanks for that piece... I follow that. @ 7:43 in your video you start to roll out a 'cushioning' layer. What is that layer and where did you end up getting that?
I believe we were sitting around $30.00 sq/ft. But that price varies significantly based on the project. Some greens could be as cheap as $20 a square foot or as expensive as $40.
Have you ever done an artificial putting green for pitching (20-30 yd)? This would typically have a pad under it. I would be interested in hearing how that went and the special considerations it demanded.
The only special consideration if the pad itself, which is a 5mm Urathane Foam that you lay and tape underneath the entire turf surface to eliminate divots in your base material.
@@TheMasonGang Thank for responding! From my research so far.........Yes, pad seems to be essential. Also it seems the fill used must be considered. I see recommendations for a fill that will not compress....like angular sand does. This will become very hard and compact over time. Either tumbled sand (non angular) or Envirofill types infill that does't compress over time is recommended.
Amazing work overall foreal, but all that just for fake gras is crazy to me. I know to maintain a real green is even more work but idk it is just wild to me.
I believe we were right on track. But unfortunately we didn't complete as quick as we hoped due to a substantial amount of rain throughout the project.
also, what kind of pad is that, and would you recommend going any thicker than you went to here to allow for longer chip and longer pitch shots, guesssing that may sacrifice the firmness of the turf, let me know your thoughts!
Hey Daniel! Honestly, this project was done 2ish years ago so I can't remember every detail about this job site. But it was in $90,000 range. I'd definitely recommend the pad for chipping!!! You don't want your base to get compromised.
Where are you guys based out of? I’m in Florida, I’ve been building synthetic turf putting greens for south west greens and syn lawn for 5 years now, learned from one of the best installers in the country, if you guys are hiring 👀
I know a lot more productive ways to install your turf especially around individual stones, I could teach your guys how to install that turf in one day, all turf down, glued, one day of cutting and securing your fringe
Our clients loved the idea of separating the green into multiple areas. They wanted it to be divided up so they could play the green as if there were multiple different "putt-putt" holes they could play with the neighborhood kids.
How much does this cost? Seems like to much, wouldn’t be easier to lay a cement pad and just lay some nice field turf over it, also where is this? Leafs,rain,snow, winter, sun, etc etc, just ruin the turf in a couple seasons???
With all the space and potential, the design is terrible. Looks like a putt putt vibe with the ugly island. Goes to show people with money doesn't have good taste.
Hey Jason! That is a common misconception by most people when it comes to turf. Believe it or not, you actually have to lay a base similar to how you would lay a base to a patio. You don't want your turf heave, settle, or drain incorrectly, or else you'll be redoing your putting green in no time.
This is so ugly lol. Looks like the display from a regional garden center. Bad stone work, pieces way too small. Planting is awful. This is a poorly built project.
I don’t usually respond to any comments but I love negative comments like this! Please post some of your work. Genuinely, I’d love us to learn from it!:)
The island is ridiculous...especially if they are hitting chips into the green. Your process looks extremely professional, I am impressed.
i love this. if it was my house i would not have put that plant section in the middle. it occupies too much space in my opinion
I think that we dont see the front of the house
I bet the owner spends most of his time out there because I know I sure would. Great job team
Looks great. If I was the home owner I would have made the fringe area large enough to have a stance while chipping
If we had the space, I would have done the same thing!
Great video, thank you. I am a ew turf distributor and needed to educate myself on the process so I can direct my diy customers 🙂
Thanks for confirming me not to be lazy and get mine done right
So cool. I would have stuck a levelled tee box halfway down the slope on the side of the property.. nice elevated tee shot down to the green! Great finished product
what an amazing job. what was the layer you put down to protect from divots?
looks great, but man I bet the customer regrets the landscape in the middle of the green. That takes away tons of shots.
Inspirational DIY video! I'd also put a fountain in the middle of the island to add some water.
That would have been awesome! Great suggestion.
You guys went all out, looks nice but for the life of me, I don’t know why you would put an island with rock smack in the middle. other than that it’s perfect. A bunker would have made sense maybe but right in the middle wouldn’t be the place for that either. Completely limits the putting green especially with all that effort you put in.
Was about to write this same thing.
awesome work and great video
The title of this video should be; how to get a divorce quickly
Haha not if both couples are obsessed with golf!
😂😂😂😂
Lame
The price of the house ⬆️ $$$$$$
I do artificial turf and the wives are actually happier cause the husbands are home and not on the course 😂😂
Super nice video and the turf came out great!
These guys do great work!
Great job that looks amazing
Love to have one in my back yard!!!
Thank you! We appreciate you watching!
Thats epic mate. Would love to have one of these. One day mate
What pad did put down? I want to add the same thing to mine. Thanks!
bro really went in! looks amazing
They definitely went for it! It's super fun to work with clients that want to go big and give you the creative freedom to do so.
For shaping the slopes, did you slope the ground and then put an even height of gravel and sand over it. Or did you make the ground perfectly flat and then vary the height of the gravel and sand to get the slopes.
We used a combination of different rock bases to meet our preferred heights. Adding 20+ inches of dirt would end up leading to a lot of settling. Packing rock in inch layers protects you from any future problems. Thanks for the question!
Are you saying the entire green is perfect level? Not even a 1 or 2% slope in areas?
Can you build breaks into it?
Damn that would have cost a bomb! Can appreciate that as a Landscaper myself. Nice work, tough to understand some of the shit you’re talking about as I’m from Australia but I can tell you guys do everything to the book. Good to see.
We try out best to overbuild our stuff. We want this stuff to last forever! Even if it does eat into our margins a bit. Thanks for watching!
Wow awesome job guys 👏
This is great work! Nice job guys
A good crew In az 4 days in ND out but good job for the first
Thanks! And I agree. We learned a lot on the first one. Now that we've done dozens of them, we're definitely a whole lot more efficient.
Great content! Good to see the whole process, I would love a putting green that size mines quite a bit smaller. But I have built a 6 hole mini golf course in the backyard! I make shorts and videos on here if your interested in it! Keep up with the great videos
😮😮l😮5tt😂😢😂
I'll definitely take a look! Thanks for watching.
Great stuff. Keep up the good work
Thank you!!
Thanks for the video. Outstanding explanation.
Uhm, wow. That's freaking awesome.
Great job for your first time! Looks beautiful
Thank you! We've improved a lot since then.
Thank you for the video. How much does this project cost? thx
prob in the 60-80k range
Do you have to worry about mold after the winter or do you tarp?
Incredible job
Thank you!
Great video! What is the shock pad made of?
Nice video! A lot of work. Looks fun tho!
How much did this cost?
Probably around $30k
And looks like shit
Correct! If you DIY, you'd only spend about 3-5K TOPS.
Ours for a small front yard and back costed about 2K to DIY. Our neighbour spent about 25K for a similar sized land.
amazing content, thanks for sharing!!
Anytime! Thank you for watching.
I feel like that island in the middle is a cool for aesthetic but to be honest it doesn’t look practical at all. Regardless, it’s a beautiful green
Fantastic turn out! Do you mind me asking where you ordered your putting turf and fringe through?
No problem! We get all of our turf through the Synthetic Grass store in Arizona. They will ship it anywhere!
I’ve been working on mine for a year but I had to build a retaining wall. I am using 1.5 inch minis cream road base for most of the base with decomposed granite for the final inch. Maybe something finer to finish? Thoughts?
Sorry for the incredibly late response. Decomposed granite is perfect! I hope it turned out awesome. I'd love to see pictures!
@@TheMasonGang it’s looking great! Still a work in progress. Not sure how to send a picture but I’d be glad to send.
Great vid and info!!
Glad you liked it!
So clever well done looks amazing 👍
Thank you Simon!
Amazing work! What seam tape this you use for this project?
Awesome video. What is the rough cost for this?
out of curiosity: what would something like that cost? Looks great
It's great work. I would make the frame curved instead of the corners if it was me. It would look more natural.
I agree! But the clients wanted to maximize the area they had down there so that why the “harsher” lines were created👍
@@TheMasonGang
Oh I see.
It's great work altogether.
Well done 👍🏻
Amazing work! What seam tape this you use for this project?i
I’m bout to do this in my backyard. Pricing from what I’ve researched is actually pretty inexpensive compared to pavers.
What business/ store did you purchase the turf from in Arizona?
Screed:
a board or metal strip dragged across a freshly poured concrete slab to give it its proper level.
Do you have to seam tape the fringe grass to the putting green grass?
We do not. We just use a ton of nails!
This would have cost roughly 2x my annual salary 😅. I will just keep mowing the weeds in my lawn and watch more videos like this to feel the satisfication like the owner would have 😂Great job tho 👍
Whats the point of the island?
What mat did you use under the turf?
A shock pad!
What type of pads was used in the install to protect the base from them chipping?
That is a wonderful question.Our supplier just calls it a "putting green pad". It's a 5mm Urathane Foam that we lay over the base.
I'd love to have these guys do a green for me. It would be a more practical design than these people wanted though. I'd reduce the hard edges and what the heck is the deal with that useless island?
Good questions! They wanted to optimize their entire yard at the bottom of the hill, therefore we went with the hard edges to maximize the area. Also, our clients wanted a couple of tiers with an island in the middle that would allow kids to treat the green as individual golf holes with obstacles to play around.
@@TheMasonGangunderstood. But that wall in the middle seems not worth it. Considering how much work went into that especially.
I’d go with one big Rock but anything rocky seems sketchy if hitting shots into.
I would prefer a bunker kids can also play in or water hazard kids can swim or a fish pond (which would also need rocks).
But if I was the client I would want every inch of the putting mat used and then maybe a bit of the longer stuff.
But amazing work! Your attention to detail is incredible
The way you seemed the pieces looks marvelous.
@@TheMasonGang
I'm about to do one in my backyard. I like the island, but would it make more sense to install that after? Lay the stones on top of the grass instead of cutting around? I don't know the pros and cons of that
OOOOOHHH boy do I need to have one of those!!! Nice
Yes you do need one!
They sell a 36” wide 2,500# rated tandem axle dump trailer for $1,300.
It’s marketed to atvs, buy it’d save you a ton of trips and hours on your $30,000+ machine.
If this would have been in WI the island would have been a bar for sure. Lol
Haha so true!
I’m from Wisconsin and that was literally my first thought when I saw the island 😂
HI! Thank you for your video, it’s amazing! Do you have any suggestions on how to fix line marks/indentations from wheels of a heavy sander? We had workmen finishing the floor of our pool house and they took the floor sander over our putting green which caused the indentations. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated! Thank you
Hi I have been installing putting greens and artificial turf for approximately 4 years in Florida. To me it sounds like your problem is the base is indented, the only way to fix that properly would be to pull the turf back and fix the base underneath.
Unfortunately, I have to agree with Cody!
Perhaps you could use a plate compactor with a rubber mat attachment to protect the surface, or perhaps a canvas tarp or blanket and vibrate it back to level. Try doing it dry first, if that doesn’t do it, water it down. May have to do more area than what is damaged.
Do you do work in Australia? I was going to build my own, but was exhauted just watching you guys work.
Unfortunately not…
Anyway to fix that wrinkle at the top middle @14:29
siiick dood
Thanks!
What underpayment did you end up using? Curious as it would also need to drain any water.
We used several different materials Stephen. First we started with a 3/4"-1" clear rock (no fines) so water could more easily percolate into the soil. After that, we added the typical class five until we were within two inches of our finished height. At that point we changed over to 1/4" minus to eliminate any chance of larger rocks making it to the surface. Although all of this rock is water permeable, a heavy rain will still lead to water problems. With that being said, we sloped the entire green north to south, adding a French drain along the south side to catch the water and drain out below the landscape ridge that frames in the entire green with plants. I hope this helps!
@@TheMasonGang Thanks for that piece... I follow that. @ 7:43 in your video you start to roll out a 'cushioning' layer. What is that layer and where did you end up getting that?
Wow that is awesome. Im gonna guess this all cost about $65k USD
How much did you charge per square ft??
I believe we were sitting around $30.00 sq/ft. But that price varies significantly based on the project. Some greens could be as cheap as $20 a square foot or as expensive as $40.
I wouldn’t have done the island.
What is that pad called and where can I buy it
It’s a shock pad. We get it directly from our supplier.
What’s the price tag on this?
It's not cheap
@@robertbryant379 yeah but I am genuinely curious
I’d love to have this done to my back yard
This is badass. I have been considering adding a putting green like this in my backyard. I expect this job was not cheap. Perhaps $20-30k?
Perhaps more!
@@TheMasonGanga lot more. Lol. Looks great.
Have you ever done an artificial putting green for pitching (20-30 yd)? This would typically have a pad under it. I would be interested in hearing how that went and the special considerations it demanded.
The only special consideration if the pad itself, which is a 5mm Urathane Foam that you lay and tape underneath the entire turf surface to eliminate divots in your base material.
@@TheMasonGang Thank for responding! From my research so far.........Yes, pad seems to be essential. Also it seems the fill used must be considered. I see recommendations for a fill that will not compress....like angular sand does. This will become very hard and compact over time. Either tumbled sand (non angular) or Envirofill types infill that does't compress over time is recommended.
Amazing work overall foreal, but all that just for fake gras is crazy to me. I know to maintain a real green is even more work but idk it is just wild to me.
did you over or under estimate the labor time needed for this install?
I believe we were right on track. But unfortunately we didn't complete as quick as we hoped due to a substantial amount of rain throughout the project.
How much does a project like that range (estimate)?
This was probably close to 90k if not more with landscaping and materials. My parents put one in about 6 years ago 1/4 of this size and it was $20k
You are right! Stuff like this ranges from $70,000 - $120,000. It's very dependent on the access.
How much did all of this cost the home owner?
Should have used a material underneath the soil separating material
How much did you charge this client? I know every project is different just looking for a ballpark,thanks!
also, what kind of pad is that, and would you recommend going any thicker than you went to here to allow for longer chip and longer pitch shots, guesssing that may sacrifice the firmness of the turf, let me know your thoughts!
Hey Daniel! Honestly, this project was done 2ish years ago so I can't remember every detail about this job site. But it was in $90,000 range. I'd definitely recommend the pad for chipping!!! You don't want your base to get compromised.
No worries at all, thank you kindly for the response!
What kind of pad is that that you put underneath the turf?
Should’ve added how much some like this cost
Where are you guys based out of? I’m in Florida, I’ve been building synthetic turf putting greens for south west greens and syn lawn for 5 years now, learned from one of the best installers in the country, if you guys are hiring 👀
I know a lot more productive ways to install your turf especially around individual stones, I could teach your guys how to install that turf in one day, all turf down, glued, one day of cutting and securing your fringe
We are located in the Minneapolis, Minnesota area and the Scottsdale, Arizona area.
Surely planting them trees in the island is going to cause problems when they grow up the roots will push the turf up and move the blocks 🤔
They definitely would if they weren’t dwarf trees. They will only get another foot or so taller👍
how much total
A project like this, in our area, typically ranges from $50,000 - $100,000 depending on materials, slopes, access, etc.
There is no debate, the pitcher should have covered first base. You learn this on the first day of being a pitcher.
Hey buddy! Would you be willing to ship the synthetic grass up to Canada?
We definitely can! It's not cheap to ship at the moment.
@@TheMasonGang do you have a email I could send some questions to?
How much would a green not as big cost
Hey Jeff! Sorry for the late response. It all depends on the size. A lot of putting greens are going for $20.00+ per sqft.
Did you have to stretch the turf like carpet?
The rubber backing of turf does not stretch like carpet backing. It lays flat if the base is correct and is weighted down with fine sand.
It's dependent! Every once and a while we do have to use carpet kickers to get rid of some frustrating seams.
@@TheMasonGang 😁
why did you do this to me. i'm about to go broke trying it
Mind sharing what your clients paid for this? Just curious.
More $70,000 less than $150,000:)
at least 150k
Pads not a good idea you will always see that seam not a crease only saying I also lay grass putting greens have seen all the problems 🏴
That seam will show itself…..bet your life on it.
That’s a lot of prep for fake grass, looks great though
The island in the middle is ugly and impractical as it cuts out a ton of surface area for putting.
Our clients loved the idea of separating the green into multiple areas. They wanted it to be divided up so they could play the green as if there were multiple different "putt-putt" holes they could play with the neighborhood kids.
How much does this cost? Seems like to much, wouldn’t be easier to lay a cement pad and just lay some nice field turf over it, also where is this? Leafs,rain,snow, winter, sun, etc etc, just ruin the turf in a couple seasons???
With all the space and potential, the design is terrible. Looks like a putt putt vibe with the ugly island. Goes to show people with money doesn't have good taste.
Haha! Believe it or not, these clients were awesome and wanted the putt putt vibe for the neighborhood kids. They were awesome!
Step one. Have a sh*t ton of money
Haha! Having money definitely helps with the process. It's pretty darn difficult to build something like this for free.
Super small green for the amount of work and money and time spent on this. Very blocky and unnatural looking
Could’ve just layed the turf down on whatever. Feel like any work done before the turf was put down seemed like a waste of time.
uh, no. LOL
Hey Jason! That is a common misconception by most people when it comes to turf. Believe it or not, you actually have to lay a base similar to how you would lay a base to a patio. You don't want your turf heave, settle, or drain incorrectly, or else you'll be redoing your putting green in no time.
are any of the products MADE IN CHINA?
looks crappy
This is so ugly lol. Looks like the display from a regional garden center. Bad stone work, pieces way too small. Planting is awful. This is a poorly built project.
I don’t usually respond to any comments but I love negative comments like this! Please post some of your work. Genuinely, I’d love us to learn from it!:)
There is an entire book called the ASTM. Start there.