Glad to hear you are doing better. The issue here in N America for longer road trips really centers on charging speeds and fortunately, EA has many stations with 350 Kw units. So it is a real advantage to have an 800v car here. Example with our Ioniq 5 AWD Limited on a 1,300 mi (2,100 km) trip, we had all sub 20 minute stops to get to 80% for a total charge time of 1 hr 54 mins for the 2,100 kms. Especially good on the East Coast of the US where there are EA stations every 60 miles and with free charging for 2 yrs on Hyundai, the Ioniq 5 is a no brainer in the US.
Hi kris, so as a ioniq5 owner i can inform you that i recently drove 600km in similar conditions as you did with the c40 and first stop was after 335km 99% - 8% and reached a max charging speed of 223kw. And this is the awd whit 20” on Swedish highway and a average speed 104km/h and top speed 122km/h, so for me a one stop of 25min on a 600km drive is just amazing! Maybe consider to redo the test? Nice to hear that you’re getting better!
What was the ambient temperature? What was the weather like? Was the surface dry or wet? What way was the wind blowing? Was this A - B - A or just A - B? What tires where on your car? What elevation was the starting and endpoint at all? Is that speed average according to the trip computer or is it actual measured speed(distance divided by time)?Can you document anything you wrote here or is it just hearsay? These are all things I account for and document in my tests because all this will influence the results. Your trip computers measured speed of 104KPH is more likely around 97-99KPH measured speed. My measured speed is 112,7KPH which is 15KPH faster. Distance drops really fast when speed increases. Drag increases squared when speed doubles, this means that drag at 120KPH is four times what it is at 60KPH! So the test results don't lie, but I will probably test the Ionic 5 again later this year 😊
I have documentation on all and I’m just as nerdy as you and everyone else here 😜 And after checking my documentation the average speed was 102km/h not 104 as i first claimed. I started from ionity Malmö and ended at ionity Gränna 335,2km, so only one way but a increase in elevation of about 300m. And as i wrote similar conditions as the drive with the c40. Stock tires 255/45/20”, 110km/h on car speedo ( same as you do in both the c40 and Ioniq 5 video) The results don’t lie ( or do they) but I’m curious why we got so different results? And how come you get so high average speed when you only do 110 on speedo? You measured only time spent on the road and i A-B, start to stop and that lowers my average speed, and 102km/h is about 99-100km/h gps speed, but cruisecontrol set to 110, and some overtakes up to 122km/h.
@@macki5542 well there is only one reason why I get a measure speed of 112,7kph though if you understand. Most people drive 10kph over the speed limit on the speedometer 😉 1kph difference will yield a very different result, so most of the difference is there. Also wind is a strong factor, if you had a weak tailwind it can decrease consumption as much as 2kWh/100km which can result in as much as 20-30km in extra range! Then viola, there you have your whole difference 😊
Did your Ioniq 5 have the full complement of battery cells? They added the extra two for the US launch to match EV6 capacity. UK model year 23 also got those extra two cells plus changes to the battery pre-heating. If yours didn’t have those, might be worth retesting for summer conditions
@@walp86 1.7 is the software version at which xc40 are. They came out with a previous version original, but got an OTA. After the ota kW resdout was there 😊
Hi Kris. I watched this old video today. Just a comment. It seems you did not navigate to a CCS charger so there were no pre-heating going on. Maybe already commented here. Didn't check all comments. Thanks for the video! // H
My Q4 50 consumes around 20 kw/100km with average speed of 105-110km. 24 seems quite high. Frankly I drove only twice with that average speed and it was about 13-16 degrees C but 24 seems a little high to me.
XC40 vs C40 av. speed, dist, and SOC usage used suggests C40 is more efficient, but Consum / 100km looks worse for C40? e: If I am doing my math right, for C40 Consum. / 100km, 100% - SOC stop (22%) = SOC usage 78% might be used instead of SOC start (95%) - SOC stop (22%) = SOC usage 73%? Working back for C40, Consum 25.4kWh / 100km * Dist 228.8km = 58.1kWh or SOC usage 77.5% of 75kWh net capacity. Are other calculations put into this Consum. / 100km?
Can anyone please help… Have only driven Volvos and have model year 23 xc90 T8 on order with the new google system but apparently they will be refreshing the model with a facelift for model year 24. Does anyone know what changes volvo plan to make with the interior if they are upgrading the infotainment screen
That thing there ocuping a charger place and not charge whith an EV is even Worse then a ICE car blocking the stall 8:35 Thats absolutly Crazy to do that.
I share that impression. It is possible to get close to 20kWh/100km with most other cars though, but you have to be very careful with the driving style. I ordered the Polestar 2 LRDM (408hp 4WD) and actually don´t mind the extra consumption.
I’ve had my model Y since March 9. I just checked the odometer now and my average over 2211km is 15.8kWh/100km. Considering I don’t have a home charge this efficiency is very helpful!
We are picking up our Polestar on wednesday. We were concidering a volvo, and to be honest like the SUV style of C40 and XC40 more than the polestar, however they still really feel like cars from a previous age, while polestar really feels like an electric car the Volvos feel like fossil-cars converted to electric. What was the deal breaker though was that we ordered the car in Marsh and could get now in May, the Volvos we would have to wait until September for!
@@austmel8862 I am talking about a feeling. Like when you see a car, or sit in it, and then it starts rolling, it's quiet and you realise it's electric; that car is a Volvo. Compared with Tesla, Polestar, VW ID4 you know it's electric just by sitting in it or looking at it.
I think you should do more testing, because all of your numbers are much different than other reviewers. No way this car gets more range than an Ionic 5.
This is a standardized test that all cars go through - same route for every car. Please link these test where others have tested these cars on the same route under similar conditions.
The boxiness of the IONIC 5 is what kills the range. Hyundai decided for the looks rather than function on that car. It looks like the IONIC 6 will do better, but tests will tell.
@@KrisRifa The Hyundai Ioniq 5 and Kia EV6 technology have 800 V - Porsche Taycan also - with the advantage that can load 250 kW peak power. Technology 800 implies V you can use / develop bidirectional load V2L - the Porsche Taycan has no bidirectional load - with which to load another VEB of the market or be able to operate any appliance with a maximum output of 3, 6 kW. Hyundai Ioniq 5 in its superior equipment, has a panoramic roof with solar panels that will help add about 1500 km / 1000 miles to the free year of autonomy. Volvo, Polestar, Tesla, Ford, Volkswagen, Audi, Mercedes, etc. would like to have that technology. All of you keep dreaming of her. Sweet dreams! 🤷♂️😱
@@Ronin585 Yeah.... ehhhmmm.... not sure if you can read or if you even watched the video?? 🙈🙈 But this is a range test, and in that regard this C40 beats to Ionic 5. Would be smart to actually watch the video before trying to "dispute it" 😂
@@Ronin585 And this video wasn't about any of that. :D If it was, C40 still beats Koreans. They charge that fast only in the summer. Suck ass when it's cold (ie. 50% of the year), don't have battery preheating, have terrible infotaiment, terrible lights, drive worse, have worse interior and less power. Literally only thing Koreans do better at this point is V2X charging and charging speed in those 4 months that is warm in the Nordics. :D Also when you compare apples to apples, you need to compare AWD premium to C40 to get what C40 has. And then the price is only 4000€ less. Would not take Korean bouncy sofa over premium Nordic feel for that price. :D
Volvo is a scam! My 2023 Volvo C40 has a steering wheel that vibrates very badly, making it quite annoying and UNSAFE to drive, and Volvo doesn’t want to fix it.
Glad to hear you are doing better. The issue here in N America for longer road trips really centers on charging speeds and fortunately, EA has many stations with 350 Kw units. So it is a real advantage to have an 800v car here.
Example with our Ioniq 5 AWD Limited on a 1,300 mi (2,100 km) trip, we had all sub 20 minute stops to get to 80% for a total charge time of 1 hr 54 mins for the 2,100 kms. Especially good on the East Coast of the US where there are EA stations every 60 miles and with free charging for 2 yrs on Hyundai, the Ioniq 5 is a no brainer in the US.
Hi kris, so as a ioniq5 owner i can inform you that i recently drove 600km in similar conditions as you did with the c40 and first stop was after 335km 99% - 8% and reached a max charging speed of 223kw. And this is the awd whit 20” on Swedish highway and a average speed 104km/h and top speed 122km/h, so for me a one stop of 25min on a 600km drive is just amazing! Maybe consider to redo the test? Nice to hear that you’re getting better!
Totally agree...👍
What was the ambient temperature? What was the weather like? Was the surface dry or wet? What way
was the wind blowing? Was this A - B - A or just A - B? What tires where on your car? What elevation was the starting and endpoint at all? Is that speed average according to the trip computer or is it actual measured speed(distance divided by time)?Can you document anything you wrote here or is it just hearsay?
These are all things I account for and document in my tests because all this will influence the results. Your trip computers measured speed of 104KPH is more likely around 97-99KPH measured speed. My measured speed is 112,7KPH which is 15KPH faster. Distance drops really fast when speed increases. Drag increases squared when speed doubles, this means that drag at 120KPH is four times what it is at 60KPH!
So the test results don't lie, but I will probably test the Ionic 5 again later this year 😊
I have documentation on all and I’m just as nerdy as you and everyone else here 😜
And after checking my documentation the average speed was 102km/h not 104 as i first claimed.
I started from ionity Malmö and ended at ionity Gränna 335,2km, so only one way but a increase in elevation of about 300m.
And as i wrote similar conditions as the drive with the c40.
Stock tires 255/45/20”, 110km/h on car speedo ( same as you do in both the c40 and Ioniq 5 video)
The results don’t lie ( or do they) but I’m curious why we got so different results?
And how come you get so high average speed when you only do 110 on speedo?
You measured only time spent on the road and i A-B, start to stop and that lowers my average speed, and 102km/h is about 99-100km/h gps speed, but cruisecontrol set to 110, and some overtakes up to 122km/h.
@@macki5542 well there is only one reason why I get a measure speed of 112,7kph though if you understand. Most people drive 10kph over the speed limit on the speedometer 😉
1kph difference will yield a very different result, so most of the difference is there. Also wind is a strong factor, if you had a weak tailwind it can decrease consumption as much as 2kWh/100km which can result in as much as 20-30km in extra range! Then viola, there you have your whole difference 😊
Did your Ioniq 5 have the full complement of battery cells? They added the extra two for the US launch to match EV6 capacity. UK model year 23 also got those extra two cells plus changes to the battery pre-heating. If yours didn’t have those, might be worth retesting for summer conditions
My XC40 runs on p1.7, and it already gives a kw readout (same layout as this c40) ☺️
p.1.7?
Please explain more? :)
@@walp86 1.7 is the software version at which xc40 are. They came out with a previous version original, but got an OTA. After the ota kW resdout was there 😊
I think it's called 1.7 😅
Hi Kris. I watched this old video today. Just a comment. It seems you did not navigate to a CCS charger so there were no pre-heating going on. Maybe already commented here. Didn't check all comments. Thanks for the video! // H
My Q4 50 consumes around 20 kw/100km with average speed of 105-110km. 24 seems quite high. Frankly I drove only twice with that average speed and it was about 13-16 degrees C but 24 seems a little high to me.
Hi Kris. If you don't mind. What type of surgery did you recover from?
Very interesting video! The Volvo C40 is a good electric car with an excellent turn of pace, enough range and a quality interior.
Thanks for the video Kris. Have you considered to make a video about the BMW IX3 facelift?
My I5 does 480-500 km, in may, in Norway/Oslo, on mixed highway/city. Can your favorite XC40 do that? (Don't think so)
The results are the results 🙈 it’s kinda like getting mad at one car for being measured to be a certain length 🙈 It is what it is dude 😅
XC40 vs C40 av. speed, dist, and SOC usage used suggests C40 is more efficient, but Consum / 100km looks worse for C40?
e: If I am doing my math right, for C40 Consum. / 100km, 100% - SOC stop (22%) = SOC usage 78% might be used instead of SOC start (95%) - SOC stop (22%) = SOC usage 73%?
Working back for C40, Consum 25.4kWh / 100km * Dist 228.8km = 58.1kWh or SOC usage 77.5% of 75kWh net capacity. Are other calculations put into this Consum. / 100km?
Can anyone please help…
Have only driven Volvos and have model year 23 xc90 T8 on order with the new google system but apparently they will be refreshing the model with a facelift for model year 24.
Does anyone know what changes volvo plan to make with the interior if they are upgrading the infotainment screen
Bjørn Nyland was getting 50 kw at 90% battery in his recent C40 charging test. That's acceptable.
Btw, the title says Vov-lo. Took me a while to notice 😀
Fixed now 😊
@@KrisRifa the thumbnail banner incorrectly says Ionic instead of Ioniq.
Blir c40 den nye polestar2
Elsker min denim blå xc40
That thing there ocuping a charger place and not charge whith an EV is even Worse then a ICE car blocking the stall 8:35 Thats absolutly Crazy to do that.
Please test EQE 350+ in nice spring conditions.
All cars seem to consume around 25 kWh/100 km so far and only Tesla is below 20. 😱
I share that impression.
It is possible to get close to 20kWh/100km with most other cars though, but you have to be very careful with the driving style.
I ordered the Polestar 2 LRDM (408hp 4WD) and actually don´t mind the extra consumption.
I’ve had my model Y since March 9. I just checked the odometer now and my average over 2211km is 15.8kWh/100km.
Considering I don’t have a home charge this efficiency is very helpful!
We are picking up our Polestar on wednesday. We were concidering a volvo, and to be honest like the SUV style of C40 and XC40 more than the polestar, however they still really feel like cars from a previous age, while polestar really feels like an electric car the Volvos feel like fossil-cars converted to electric. What was the deal breaker though was that we ordered the car in Marsh and could get now in May, the Volvos we would have to wait until September for!
The Volvos and Polestars are the same underneath. They have the same chassis, batteries and motors.
@@austmel8862 I am talking about a feeling. Like when you see a car, or sit in it, and then it starts rolling, it's quiet and you realise it's electric; that car is a Volvo. Compared with Tesla, Polestar, VW ID4 you know it's electric just by sitting in it or looking at it.
Nice video!
What is RC - WT/ST in the spreadsheet?
thanks! WT = winter tire / ST = summer tire
and RC? REIFEN CONFIGURATION? ;)
Hi Kris, did you preheat the battery by setting the charging station in the navigation?
No, I don’t do that in the range tests because it will increase the consumption 😊
I think you should do more testing, because all of your numbers are much different than other reviewers. No way this car gets more range than an Ionic 5.
This is a standardized test that all cars go through - same route for every car. Please link these test where others have tested these cars on the same route under similar conditions.
@@KrisRifa Check out out of spec reviews and out of spec motoring youtube channels
@@scotthucks7966 Links please?
@@KrisRifa check this one out first ruclips.net/video/n8oi9OrgV7E/видео.html
@@KrisRifa ID4 Range test, base version rwd gets 229 miles at 70mph
The boxiness of the IONIC 5 is what kills the range. Hyundai decided for the looks rather than function on that car. It looks like the IONIC 6 will do better, but tests will tell.
Siberia is watching you 🤳
So weird that xc40 ranks higher on your chart, knowing c40 is slightly more aerodynamic 🤔
XC40 ranks “higher” because that test was done in summer. The colder the worse it is for range 👍
@@KrisRifa oh, I must have gotten the lines scramled, I read 6 degrees for the XC40. Sorry about that 😅
@@KrisRifa where can we see your charts?
Volvo C40, "Better" than a Hyundai Ioniq 5? 🤣🤣🤣 Dreaming is free.
The results don’t lie, so you’re the one who seems to be dreaming 🙈
@@KrisRifa The Hyundai Ioniq 5 and Kia EV6 technology have 800 V - Porsche Taycan also - with the advantage that can load 250 kW peak power. Technology 800 implies V you can use / develop bidirectional load V2L - the Porsche Taycan has no bidirectional load - with which to load another VEB of the market or be able to operate any appliance with a maximum output of 3, 6 kW. Hyundai Ioniq 5 in its superior equipment, has a panoramic roof with solar panels that will help add about 1500 km / 1000 miles to the free year of autonomy. Volvo, Polestar, Tesla, Ford, Volkswagen, Audi, Mercedes, etc. would like to have that technology. All of you keep dreaming of her. Sweet dreams! 🤷♂️😱
@@KrisRifa All this and much more, at a price lower than the mentioned models by more than €/$10,000.
@@Ronin585 Yeah.... ehhhmmm.... not sure if you can read or if you even watched the video?? 🙈🙈 But this is a range test, and in that regard this C40 beats to Ionic 5. Would be smart to actually watch the video before trying to "dispute it" 😂
@@Ronin585 And this video wasn't about any of that. :D If it was, C40 still beats Koreans. They charge that fast only in the summer. Suck ass when it's cold (ie. 50% of the year), don't have battery preheating, have terrible infotaiment, terrible lights, drive worse, have worse interior and less power. Literally only thing Koreans do better at this point is V2X charging and charging speed in those 4 months that is warm in the Nordics. :D Also when you compare apples to apples, you need to compare AWD premium to C40 to get what C40 has. And then the price is only 4000€ less. Would not take Korean bouncy sofa over premium Nordic feel for that price. :D
This 100% convinces me to wait for hydrogen. Freezing to death in the mountains of Colorado in a dead battery golf cart is not appealing.
Volvo is a scam! My 2023 Volvo C40 has a steering wheel that vibrates very badly, making it quite annoying and UNSAFE to drive, and Volvo doesn’t want to fix it.