The Story of Bagua Zhang Ep. 05 - Sun Lutang
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- Опубликовано: 14 сен 2022
- The story of Bagua Zhang was produced and released domestically in China in around the year 2020. It features four lengthy episodes covering different topics regarding the history and practice of Bagua Zhang along with various interviews.
I have translated, subtitled and dubbed this series and have also added relevant information for the international community to enjoy. I will be releasing it in smaller episodes for ease of viewing. Following this, I have some follow up interviews and videos that I will film and produce regarding the topic of Bagua Zhang and its history.
Episode 5
In this episode we look at the history and practice of one of the most famous late Qing early Republican era Bagua Zhang practitioners, Sun Lutang.
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This series on the Internal Martial Art could well serve as a reference for future generations! 🙏🙏🙏
My remaining grandmother is 95 and not at all as clear minded and full of life as Sun Wanrong. CMA does wonders to keep humans in great shape, both mentally and physically. And I'm pretty sure she could do Bāguà as most westerners do Bāguà. When she says she can't anymore, it's to her high standards, I'm sure.
It's truly something special
I wonder why they haven't made a movie about Sun LuTang. I'm sure it would be just as good as the Yip Man movie.
It would be interesting for sure
I love how the martial artists are still described in such a mystical fashion.
Yep
What a vibrant and engaging woman! Her kids, grandkids and perhaps great-grandkids must treasure her.
Amazing at her age
Congrats for your historicist activity. Deeply respect
Sun Lutang is the strongest martial artist in China, why isn't there a movie about him!
I like the editing, music and the Byron voice. I did not know Sun style is a combination of xingyi bagua taiji, That is amazing, has to be a very refined art. Now I want to learn more about sun taijiquan. Thank for share.
My pleasure
Perfecto.
Thanks
I'm from Vietnam . I read a lots of document refering to Sun Lu Tang. He was considered to be god of Martial Art , this is because he can master many kinds of Chinese kungfu within a short time , he mastered Xing Yi Quan first from Guo Yun Shen, then learned Ba Gua Zhang from Zheng Ting Hua and finally Tai Chi Quan with a master named He . It is with regret that no any outstanding kung fu master like him appear now.
Thanks
sharp lady, respect!
Indeed
Great.
Thank you!
You are welcome
Thank you, I'm going to watch this again right now.
You are welcome
Another nice one Byron. Top work! ✊
Thank you brother!
Hello! As a Baguazhang lover I'm enjoying so much this series translated and enhanced this way, this is a top quality content, thank you so much. As a suggestion, I'd love to know more about the connections of Baguazhang within Wudang styles, as I learn the Jiang style from Xuanwupai, and practiced some youlong 游龙 form, further I'm interested in the overall Wudangpai history and styles... but my Chinese isn´t enough yet to research as I'd like. Congratulations and regards from Spain :)
Any long history of ‘wudangpai’ bagua is fake. Bagua was brought to WuDang in the 20th century by practitioners looking to make more connections with Daoist philosophy. Hence why ‘Wudang’ bagua is not unique like so many of these WuDang lineage claiming people love to say but really just very modern wushu variations of styles practiced by Jiang Rong Qian, Pei XiRong and others who brought their baguazhang to WuDang and taught it to monasteries there. Within the last 40 years people like Xu ShiXi have been invited to WuDang to teach at various places. Xu said he was given a daoist name and plaque and all these trappings to butter him up to teach his Yin Style. When he returned to Beijing a while later he discovered his bagua was being taught on WuDang websites and labeled ‘wudangpai’. It was nothing more than a shitty version of his Yin style with a bunch of modern wushu moves added to it. People claiming martial and daoist lineage from WuDang daoist temples like Lindsey Wei and these others claiming they have some 2000 year old lineage to some secret system of ‘Bagua Zhang’ dating back to some major daoist patriarch are full of it. If you know anything about bagua history you know it wasn’t even called baguazhang by Dong Hai Chuan. Then you watch these people’s ‘Bagua’ they are teaching and it’s repulsive and skillless. It lacks the core principles of Bagua and foregoes honesty and baguazhang principles based practice for some modern dumpster fire dance trash. Also historically WuDang wasn’t a predominate daoist mountain for the majority of Chinese history. It was Hua Shan. Only in the last few hundred years has WuDang been associated with daoism, an association sped up in the last 200 years. Even Emei Shan has more claim to longer daoist history than WuDang.
@@bboytao Hi! Thanks for shedding some ideas with your answer 🙏 As far as I’ve been taught Bagua in Wudang, Shifu never hide our style comes from Jiang Rongqiao, we even use his written material for reference, which implies there’s no mystery about the source and the history, at least in my experience. You may have some reasons to claim so, but keep in mind that “Wudangpai” is formed by thousands of people, which necessarily brings different mindsets and backgrounds :) About the role of Wudang in imperial China along its long history there’s a lot of interesting stuff to discuss, but whether “importance” may be a subjective aspect, it’s a fact that the first temple palace of the mountains (WulongGong 五龙宫）dates from more that 1000 years ago. There’s something soothing one’s heart in there in this harsh world ✨🙏
@@AsisVendrell I’m glad you enjoy Wudang and being there makes you feel calm and relaxed. That’s great! But it’s important to point out that just because a temple is built on a mountain doesn’t make it a long time sacred daoist mountain. There are temples centuries old built all over China on all sorts of mountains and in all sorts of cities because daoism and Buddhism and the spiritual practices of China built temples but it doesn’t make those places inherently centers of that spiritual practice. WuDang Shan for the majority of its history in imperial China was not a central source of daoism. That was Hua Shan. Doesn’t mean there weren’t daoists there but there were daoists in beijing too and Bai Yun Guan is in beijing but Beijing outside of that major administrative temple was not a historical major center of daoism like Hua Shan was. Daoism is a corner stone of Chinese thought so of course you will find daoists everywhere in China historically but there isn’t such strong historical ties to WuDang as a major daoist center as like to be projected today. Also the modern idea of wudangpai is a hedge podge disarray of so many things that there has been built a false myth is both by Chinese, the government of China and foreigners around it that it’s important to point out that almost every story of martial origins coming from WuDang you hear are probably false and only date back to the last century. I’m glad your teacher is honest but the vast majority are not and there are no wudangpai bagua or xingyi in the traditional sense. They are just taken in a fractured way from other places missing a lot of the core essence and then mixed with modern wushu and called wudangpai because it seems wudangpai means just that: systems of martial arts taken from else where in partial and incomplete form and mixed with acrobatics or dance and often pseudo spiritual ideas that at a glance seem daoist but when you finally study daoism in depth with solid teachers you realize a lot of that wudangpai stuff just smacks of cultish money making marketing pseudo daoist jargon.
@@bboytao Thanks for this beautiful conversation. I agree with you that it’s so important to have some judgement before embracing any idea or spiritual practice, this prevents us from blind sectarism and ignorance. But then, as I learned for a first time in Wudang, and not from my previous enlightened masters, to keep preventing us losing precious time is so important to focus on one’s practice and let the others understand why they choose what they may choose, which means nothing but practicing what one sincerely has found according to Dao✨🙏 what can we do to prevent others from mistake when we are still learning how to avoid ours? To me, only having a matured code.
@@bboytao I am not a martial artist myself and only practice TaiChi for health benefits. but I have been seeking to study Daoism (or Taoism ?) and Tao Teh Ching in the proper understanding and practice. do you know of resources or teachers from the Internet or RUclips that can help ? I only found in my country the I Quan Tao sect but they only allow you to learn if you get initiated first. but after being initiated what I learned from them is a mixture of Taoist teaching, Buddhism and Christianity. even the book Tao Teh Ching was not discussed in the classes and meetings.
Thank you for your hard work! Sun Lutang 's biografy is very interesting, i 'm sure we will enjoy some kind of a series on the subject , on your channel in the future.
You are welcome
very cool
Thanks
Thank you for this sharing
(I find subtitles very difficult to read :the span is very short and consequently it changes too fast, and it's written very small . I hope this message will help)
Thanks again
I unfortunately have to follow what is being said as closely as possible
I have read "In 1912, Sun Lutang won the World Hercules Fighting Competition held in London". Sun Lutang defeated all his opponents in one fell swoop. If there is any video/pictures left, I would like to see that.
Hi! Unfortunately that is not a true account
and yet, no one could ever deny that when he was alive. History and the true knowledge are buried. @@MuShinMartialCulture
@@animeloverfan18 of course this story wasn't a thing when he was alive, because it didn't happen. His own daughter has stated that there are far too many fake stories invented about him after he died.
I will become an Air Nomad 🙏🏾
Good to hear
hi, the video says that captions are not available. Please fix if possible. thanks
I'm not sure it can as the video is mostly in Chinese
Sunl Lutang stories and photos are my favorite of all-time . Some of my favorite stores was he got mad at a one of his students and slapped him on his forearm and it became black and blue. I also like when he was on his death bed his students asked him what is your secret ? He got out a piece of paper, His students was expecting some big secret and he simply wrote down practice hahaha. Do you have any idea how tall he was and how much he weighed ?
没有演示出孙氏八卦掌的特点，及与其他八卦掌的区别。
It's about Sun Lutangs history as opposed to a technical video on his art itself
I'm sad there is nothing about how Sun Lutang learned Taijiquan and his opinion about each art.
Well, the series is focused on Bagua Zhang as opposed to being a documentary on Sun Lutang as a whole per se.
@@MuShinMartialCulture To be fair, you didn't say much about Bagua Zhang in this one. It might as well have been a full biography.
That said, I like your work. Make the same series about other internal arts please
Wow talk about hitting the internal martial arts jackpot Sun Lu Tang was super lucky to learn hsing-i directly from it's creator Guo Yun Shen and then have the good fortune to learn Cheng style Bagua from it's creator Cheng ting Hua that's amazing .✌️❤️🎵
@@brittscott4673 he did indeed learn from the greats. For the record though, Guo Yunshen was the disciple of Li Luoneng who in town is the progenitor of Xingyi Quan
@@MuShinMartialCulture OK I remember Guo Yun Shens name from that famous fight that never happened btwn Guo and Dong Hai Chuan,but I think I read Guo met Cheng Ting Hua and they studied together and taught each other their martial arts.Its been a long time since I read about these great master's.I met a Bagua/Tai Chi master in the early 2000s who was a student of Chen Pan Ling.
"Natural Intelligence" 😂
我来万法皆无用，唯有周深似水流。我太爷赵道新跟他有过交手赢了他了。
死亡没有留下任何证据