Straw Bale Plastering with Lime plaster
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- Straw Bale Plastering with Lime plaster.
Breathable Plaster for Straw Bale Building.
In case you wish to view how it's plastered with Plastic stucco and sand added.
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My sons Carl and Dan are located in Sonora, CA.
They both understand stucco and most carpentry. Both are young, strong, ambitious and have integrity instilled into them by a father with morals. Call them for your stucco or plastering needs.
Carl and Dan live in the Tuolumne County area, but if it's on the map, they go there, In fact, they just did a project in Navato, three hours from their location. FYI, Carl was on the camera filming this video that I was helping on. • Stucco codes vs cosmet...
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Other uses for Kemset Ekoplast-50 plaster finishes. • Stucco walls with lime...
These straw bales and similar structures have been around since the beginning of time.
They keep humans safe from freezing rains and cold weather, as well as predators with large teeth and appetites.
The materials change or adapt from cob, which is clay, sand, and straw, to dirt, and yes, Dung, to lime stucco and many other outer skins for waterproofing.
Stray bale homes can't burn as once covered, there is "no oxygen" for a fire to start or remain started; one just needs to watch the old movie Backdraft, directed by Ron Howard in 1991, with Kurt Russel and Robert DeNiro, to understand this concept.
And no, rodents, such as mice or rats, can't live in it as the straw can't be used can't be used as food.
Actually, mice can live in it, as they can live in anything with holes, such as straw, caves, wood, or even steel structures.
But these critters would still need to come out of hiding to eat edible food, drooped by us untidy humans. I'm sure they love pizza crumbs.
FYI, Kemset Ekoplast 50 is a Lye free plaster;
The phone for sales of Kemset products is 562-285-2790.
I love to see this. Drywall has decimated the use of plaster, hard to find anyone with knowledge and skill. Truly a lost art. Thanks for the info.❤
@@FlymasterFlash Sheetrock has been taking over since 1960.
@@StuccoPlasteringhow are you making that plaster ? How much sand and lime ?
Here in the UK solid plastering has been the norm for hundreds of years starting with mixes of mud, lime, cement then over to gypsum plasters.
Like everywhere the trade has become deskilked and watered down for various reasons and now dot and dab drywall has been the norm here for 20+ years although we still tend to finish with a skim of gypsum plaster.
So basically here plasterers spend most of their time skimming and only using solid backing plaster or mortars on repair or renovation jobs.
Not only that. Plaster can accomplish beautiful things. Sheetrock cannot! Blue or green board makes a suitable substrate, for plaster. But people puckey the joints and call it done. Quite distasteful. Type X is the best, since cedar and horsehair are out these days. I thank God every day for my dad who taught me what his father taught him,what his father taught him. Fourth generation mechanic here.
@@jamesjaudon8247 Good evening James, cheers to real plastering.😉
What a pleasure to watch a proud craftsman producing his art and talking through the process. Much appreciated.
@@billger5710 good ending Bill, thank you .
Your videos have made me capable of doing jobs i never knew I could do.Thanks
Howdy Dodge Dude, thank you.
Ive been plastering since the mid 80s clay lump lime etc. But the last few yrs ive been using lime chalk warm coat so light and easy on the arms. Best stuff ever.
@@woodybollox Evening my fellow plasterer, man I need some of that stuff. 😉
The closest company that does this is 400 miles away no one in my area does. Me & hubby are building our straw bale & this video is so helpful. All your videos are great. PleAse give more tips for dealing with straw bale. We want it air tight
Good evening Lee, thank you, you can depend on us for sound advice.
God bless Giordano family,,,, love all your videos sir
Thank you kindly, these kind comments keep us motivated to share the knowledge.
That's some nice plastering 😮
Thank you, for us another fun day at the office.
Kirk...Thank you for the informative straw bale interior plastering demonstration.✅
Glad you enjoyed it
I knew a few old school plasterers in the union working for mieswinkle , anning Johnson , Raymond intiriors, these guys were absolute masters of the trade. Good video Kirk easily understood explanation of coverage and finish.
@@bobv8219 My buddy, Paul Gaterez worked for both for about 20 years. He retired a couple years ago.
Love the info in the videos Kirk, don't forget to breathe
LOL, I do get carried away.
Love your vids, and love how you passed your trade on to your children! Don't forget to Retire and enjoy your life. Nothing is guaranteed.
Don't forget to breath and do some work in life. When you die people will look at what you did for the world.
Well said!
Kirk, I watch many of your videos and make my guys do it too - before we do any plastering. But, I gotta say that what you call "plastic" is mostly portland cement with some amount of lime in it - maybe 15%. Same stuff commonly used for stucco. Does not "breathe". The Ekoplast seems very cool and definitely looks like it "breathes".
@@nobreighner You’re preaching to the choir, I’ve been saying this for years.
@@StuccoPlastering Good! We have been testing single-pass 1" stucco. Plan to get it delivered by concrete mixer truck for the big test. Does not seem to shrink much.
Man, your accent is so Californian that you could star in the series “The Californians”
Love it.
@@spencersandman6728 I’ve no accent I’m aware of.😉
Straw Bale is freaking cool. Never seen it in Massachusetts. I would also want the "character " and un even style. Love rustic
It’s fun, I would like to stucco 3 a year if possible simply for the workout
I like the nonstop shoveling onto the table while they scrape it off. Hypnotic....working alone for me anyways never looks like this.
@@lostpony4885 howdy lost pony, nothing worse than mixing and applying by oneself.
@@StuccoPlastering but, that way im not just the slowest guy on the job, im also the fastest!
@@lostpony4885 Good point,😉
I’m truly fascinated by this whole deal….. I bet it’s really going to be comfortable inside there and I’d like to do that someday
Plus, their deck offers views of hundreds of miles of the surrounding area. It's quite the showhouse.
FIREPROOF - Good to see you slinging it!
@@cherylm2C6671 No doubt for another ten years, as I enjoy getting paid to work out.
So nice... had to watch it twice!
@@davidchana962 Morning David, man I like your style thank you .
That’s looks lovely to use! Beats sand & torment or bonding
Yes indeed! And very lightweight also.
Agreed 👍, I wish I had a uneven, rustic look like this. The northeast ,blue board and plaster rules.all home construction. So boring and uniform
@@jamie.777 I prefer my home to look like a hobbit home built in the side of a mountain💃
Master Class, from 🌧️☔ 🇮🇪☘️ Wish we had your California weather 🌞⛱️, Keep Swinging the Trowel 😉
Thank you, I will; as for the weather, we have some blizzards rambling through at this time.
Super interesting, my niece built straw houses out west on a reserve and they used clay.
Evening, Cob is a structural mixture of clay, sand, and straw, used to build walls. However it's nowhere as strong or long lasting as lime plastering. We have to use what's available, folks even use dirt or mud, if that's all that available. However rain will turn it back into mud.
What a great video! Lovely family you have. And the work product looks beautiful too. Great voice to listen to. No wonder your supplier donated!
Good evening, Jacob; man, I like your style; thank you.
Hikmet is the man! He sold me my first 15 bags of ekoplast 50. Took a bit of a learning curve to get the mix right but when its right its right!
Hickman, is the man, his plaster hardens like granite.
Hi from Ireland. Love your vids
@@PatLawlor-y9l Good evening Pat, my fellow spread from Ireland, thank you. 😉
best wishes to you and your family brother. thanks for the tutorial.
Hola Envios, you are welcome, cheers
Thanks for the information. God bless.
@@richardroyles1423 You’re welcome.
Love the bumps kirk ,well done
Thank you Michael.
Very interesting Kirk🇺🇸✝️
It was a fun project
Cool❤
@@floydwilliams3321 thank you
Lime plaster is the best. Bravo Kirk.
Lime plaster does have its advantages.
Great stuff. Thanks for all the helpful videos. I visited your website today and had to laugh. I'm originally from Sonora.
Glad you like them! Carl and Dan are located in Sonora or should I say, Dodge Ridge snowboarding.
Who knew Christopher Walken could sling mud like this
@@jam1087 Lol,
The plasterer Master 😀👍
Thank you, my friend.
Excellent work Kirk you’re a master. I love this project. I don’t want to fault the owner, but those are some terrible windows.
Thank you, we just apply the stucco.
Love to see a master at work.
Hey Joe, thank you
Great vid. Can't wait to see you in the next one.
Coming soon!
Awesome Kirk,! You are Great!
Thank you kindly!
You could be in Romania doing this as all ols village house are like this. They all still standing with terra cotta roofs. Amazing house heat will stay out of house if you close windows. Many homes in Romania have interesting designs on outside, bright colors etc….. old way will become the new way soon. Peace.
@@GARRY3754 I like this information, we take living statements for granted to much here.
Nice
Thank you
N I C E ! Plain and simply nice work and info in all your videos.
@@richardsamski6050 Evening my friend, thank you
Great job! Looks amazing.
Thank you! Cheers!
I really enjoy your videos kirk
Thank you, Dan
Cleanest Shirt on the West Coast!!!
LOL, I do tend to like staying clean. It’s habit at this point.
Brilliant video interesting stuff Kirk keep it coming. 😎
Thank you, we”ll do.
I love thatKirk is wearing baseball catching shinguards
They are so comfortable because of the fat calf straps, so much in fact, if forget to take them off then start the truck and realize I'm still wearing them.
The normal knee pads dig into my skin and hurt and continue to fall when I walk.
You can add pozzalans to lime mortars/renders etc to increase their hardness if required
Good tip, thank you
Can I come and work on a project with you? I learned so much watching you work I would love to show you what I learned. ❤
Yes of course!
Kirk as always, love your work!
Thank you.
Mantap bos ku sangat bermanfaat kami selalu belajar dari chenel anda salam satu propesi 🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩
Thank you, my fellow plasterer. Best wishes,
Nice work, but there must be a more efficient, less strenuous way of applying the plaster. Then, work with the trowel to finish. Possibly a sprayer of sorts?
For us, I had a tommy gun at one time that took 10 men to operate for many years. I'll take this fun workout any day.
There’s always somebody who wants something for nothing.
Good strong product🤙🏻
Thanks for the visit, glad you enjoyed it.
Nice thank you guys
Your welcome, Dan
To me it always seems like Kirk is mixing up inches and centimeters. Stucco 4-6 inches thick is about 10-15 cm!
Howdy, I do tend to be old school and use inches as a rule. ruclips.net/video/xvQX8VqAumI/видео.html/ Apply stucco six inches thick.
Using accellerator i always do the details first so i can slop it all on the easy parts fast if it stiffens up on me. Because im so slow on the details....so thats why i do corners etc first
I agree like eating food, save the best for lady. Cheers my fellow plasterer.
I bought a cheap 2x4 just like yours at Home Depot once !
A two by fore in considered a stud, like me, what does that have to do with this video.
Hey Kirk, great video as always. Looking to see if you can provide some advice on this. I’m looking to replace my 1930’s shiplap siding in Sacramento with this ekoplast 50. Going to rip out the siding and wood planks down to the stud and insulate the exterior walls with mineral wool. Any particular plywood and house wrap you recommend? So many sheathing systems out there and I’m not convince by all this “air tight” envelope talk. Maybe I’m wrong… your thoughts on this. Thanks bud!
@@CoppersOnTheRun Often, we can go over All existing sidings even ship-lap, this takes experience. If you remove all this insulation, then attach plywood and regular lath and stucco. Type in, “how to stucco a home” for details.
I used to do that work
St Anthony Orthodox monastery AZ
It's an honest day's work. I love doing it.
Kirk, haven't seen your videos in a long time. The outside scenery looks like Big Foot Country! How's Lou?
Great video Kirk.
Howdy, Luuu's good, thanks for asking, yea, these folks own a hundred acres, with views that stretch for hundreds of miles in all directions.
As aways, thanks for your videos! Question... why did you use the structolite and kemset product on different walls? Thanks, again. brian
Carl and Dan, used lime stucco on all the walls except this one, as many folks asked for an alternative lime plaster, I called my pal, Hickman in L.A. who promptly sent me these bags of Kemset plaster, simply to show as an alternative to traditional stucco.
Miss you guys 🥺
Man, were always here.
You know that rock house you spoke about? It needs a fire 24-7. True, but the 3 little piggies survived in the stone house, not the hay house. 😂
@@richardsamski6050 Contrair Monfrair, when lime putty drys it then becomes limestone once more. Limestone is a mineral rock.
I like your knee pads Kirk. What type are they. I like going on my knees too. I know one bricklayer. All his low work he is on his knees to no bending over on low work. I know a number of tradespeople. plumbers, bricklayers with fused vertebra. So its a great idea to look after your body. I have done away with lime over 10 years ago. The best thing I ever did. Even with white set. No lime. Nice video.
Morning Ron, they are baseball umpire knee pads, they stay on without cutting your circulation off. And comfortable, I buy them used on eBay for about ten bucks. New they cost a hundred who wants to pay so much to kneel in mud.
Ron Howard wasn't in Backdraft.....you're thinking of the speech DeNiro gave to young Baldwin with the steel garbage can.
Ron Howard Directed the movie
Thank you,
Jack of all trades master of none. I plastered for 53 years.
Its a bad habit of feeling jealous and envy at a fellow tradesman, you need to work on that. Best wishes.
im not here for the materials im here to ask how many back surgeries have you had lol holy man my back hurts just watching yall work !!!!!!!!!!! awesome job tho
@@colleenweaver776 Hello Colleen, no back surgeries, I’m of the thought of use it or lose it, thus as time goes by we get stronger and stronger, naturally we have to eat and drink healthy stuff. At 65 it’s working still after more than 45 years in the trade. Cheers.😉
New to the channel. I enjoyed the video. I'm confused by some of your lingo Kirk. You keep saying, "6, 7, 8" thick". I must be confused. You would need a dump truck of that white stuff to make a wall that thick. Can you clear this up?
Howdy Willy, we used seven 40-pound bags to complete this wall far from a truckload. A technique not shone is that I followed the humpty and bumbby pattern, but it appears to be flat. It's not.
weewillywanka5904 asked a simple question. I'll try to get a better answer. Clearly, when you say that this wall is 6"-7"-8"
thick, it is not that thickness to the bales. Even where and when you showed us that you were inserting your finger"all the way in", your were inserting less than an inch. Seven 40# bags would not come close to such thicknesses.At least not in
more than a few filled in spots or holes. I'm guessing those thicknesses are referring to the variance of the wall rather
than the actual depth of the material being applied. The 3/4"to1" thick window casings being still proud of the finished surface makes this even more obvious. I too am somewhat confused as to why you would not clarify this. In the trades
we have a saying, "teaching enough to make someone dangerous"... With all due respect, it seems like this is the case.
@@lukula2934 we did use 7 bags, unless you have used this material and are a professional, you can’t be expected to understand how much and how thick it can be applied. Normal stucco depth for covering straw-bales is about 3 inches thick. Even if the bales are stacked perfectly, these were not stacked for perfection intentionally. Thus three to 9 inches gives the wavy look they were seeking. The wall waviness is in all directions. You don’t have to understand this, I do.
Do you need to use any form or wire or reinforcement for areas that are super thick like that hope you were filling in or is that more so for old and new stuccos?
@@VeggiesOutFront all bales should have wire, where the bales may be deep, extra wire would help to hold stucco. Most say simply stack the bales perfectly in the real world, that’s very difficult. 😉
True professionals making it look effortless. I've done some DIY lime plastering.... it's about 1278% more difficult that how it looks 😂😂
Good afternoon Customized Dude, man, I like your style, thank you. Cheers.
hell of a arm workout guy!!
You would think so, but after so many years, our arms rarely give out.
@@StuccoPlastering
That comes near the end
@@barfy4751 no doubt
Thank you.
You bet.
Drywall is a fire barrier. If your straw bale home catches fire, good luck. Plaster is so close to the chalk in drywall. Basically mostly calcium.
@@5400bowen These bales can’t catch fire, for too many reasons to lust here.
Hi great video. Can you guys list the tools(hand, lime plaster table, A frame thing you stand on) you use doing these walls. Thanks
@@fromthepeanutgallery1084 The scaffold is indeed called, A-Frame stucco scaffold, the you have a mud- board stand, hawk and trowel. 😉
@@StuccoPlastering Thanks a lot. +++ for the info. Priced that Kemset Ekoplast 50. Boy is it expensive something like $65 a bag and can do 50 sq feet at 3/8" thick. Does that sound right?
@@fromthepeanutgallery1084 That is correctamundo, one gets what they pay for. Cheers
How water resistant is the mud?
The climate is so unpredictable these days,thinking of flooding.🀄️
@@ChillinVillin-in7sj This lime is breathable thus subject to water absorption.
those are liquid rocks you're playing with there... Impressive
That is an interesting analogy as it’s true, very clever my friend.
Can you do the same plastering on to straw bales with normal cement as well.
Sure you can, buy the bags that say “plastic” on them. There are red bags that are called common, the orange bags say plastic, they have more lime and plasticizers in them.
Alright great video 😊😂😁😎😜
Evening John, you are too kind, thank you.
Reminds me of plastering over adobe walls. I think you should get a 5' mud board stand. Do you do Venetian Plastering?
Your right a bigger board is always better, I've had my share of Lime plastering
Going old school!
Just explaining some options while visiting my sons in Sonara.
Kirk, I sure dont understand how that doesnt just spider web full of shrinkage cracks? That is my biggest problem to overcome when I plaster.
Howdy, unlike taping mud which is gypsum, which does indeed crack like a dropped egg, Kemset's limestone rarely spider cracks no matter how thick it's applied.
Mouses make holes through earthen walls. So they can go through straw walls if they want probably
@@acavoxnegledajtelevizor401 No, this issue was addressed in the video. Cheers
This is awesome. Do you have any videos of doing hempcrete?
No, sorry
@StuccoPlastering That's alright. I still appreciate the education your family provides. I wish some of you lived out in Minnesota.
@@lprice5583 thank you. I prefer FloridA
Hi Kirk,
Love your videos!
I would like to lime plaster an outdoor cement block wall..
Can I use hydrated lime only?
Or should I add sand to the hydrated lime mix?
Im aiming for a polished/ smooth wall finish..
@@jayg5222 I’d recommend, Greencore USA made by Quikrete sold at Home Depot, it’s full of lime and fine sand, google it.
@@StuccoPlastering
Thank you, for your time!
Will definitely look it up..
@@jayg5222 cool beans,
neat stuff Kemset,have you ever add color to it ? for maybe a thick recolor on a house over a bump and brush?
No, but it's possible to add pigments as it is a white plaster base.
@@StuccoPlastering Thanks ill let you know if i try it.
Is lime plaster the same as 20 minute mud? Thank
Good question but, No, far from it. Picture this lime plaster as liquid limestone, when solid it resorts back to limestone. All joint compounds are gypsum based and should only be used inside.
very informative. is there a water / vapor pearmibility factor on the Ekoplast-50 ?
@@taavetmalkov3295 Yes, it’s mostly real lime plaster.
@@StuccoPlastering yeh, i mean if compared to basic lime stucco?
@@taavetmalkov3295 This has no Portland cement plaster in it, thus it is basic lime stucco.🤔
Can a long float be used with that material if I do want nice flat walls?
@@contentment164 Of course in can be used, with a skilled applicator they can use a shoe, as long as it has a wooden sole. 😉
You said name it, you have used it to apply plaster.
Have you used a duck bill platypus to apply the plaster.
@@user-pu2ho4ip3d No man, that sounds scary.
How do you mount the lathe? I heard there was a product called K Lathe?
With 6 inch U-Shaped clips
What kind of knee pad set up is that you have on? The brand name and estimated price range too, please?
@@brewcity2317 I but them on eBay, they are used baseball catchers knee pads from 7 to 15 bucks. New, they are like 150, it makes no sense to pay big money for knee pads to get stucco all over them. ⚾️
@@StuccoPlastering, thanks for the reply. Your knee pads don't fall down. Trying to find knee pads that I can walk around in that don't slide down side has been an exercise in patience and frustration.
So either it doesn’t have oxygen in it or it’s breathable, how can it be both?
@@TheMajictech things that make you go hmmmm.
Can you apply lime veneer on dens glass installed inside of a tiny home with out sealing it? Or do you recommend sealing it first?
I have only heard of Densglass being attached to exteriors, thus do not know how to finish it inside, I would guess if we lath and plaster it if it’s attached to the outside. Sheetrock can be applied over it and finished. However this is just a guess? Good luck, remember luck is the residue of research. Keep googling the question until you find the correct answer.
Is type s mortar whoch is called lime and sold in new england the same "lime" you mix with sand for plaster? And is there any risk in using unwashed sand dug from the site in such a mix if it is indeed mostly sand?
With this product it's all in the bag you just add water. Using unwashed sand is considered not good as it may contain, salt.
Hi Kirk. Do you use the same kemset product on the partition walls with sheetrock?
No, Carl and Dan only did the stucco work over the straw-bale walls.
Does it count as brick once its plastered? Asking for a pig
@@lostpony4885 I’d say it counts for straws that have plaster over.
I can’t imagine being the cabinet guy who has to build and install against a straw bail wall.
These houses have been built for decades I’m sure they have a 2 x 4 wall or some kind of a wood structure for kitchens
@@mr.kenslifeshop4034 I totally agree. I was just making a lame joke.
@@millroyboy07 haha yeah… i’m sure these houses have their issues I wonder how long they last?
That could be a drag, but improvising is a good habit to develop.
Diatomaceous earth and lime 🎉 yes bugs die with it
I have read that fact myself, fascinating.😉
Never heard of straw bale house. Who knew.
Howdy In and Out lover, things that make you go hmmmmm.
What would be the equivalent lime in Europe be ?
Would it be NHL's?
Or quicklime?
All limes in Europe are the real deal, not so much here, unless imported fro Europe.
Nice job. Did you sell knives at costco ? That microphone ..........LOL
Howdy William, only on Sundays.
I think the word youre looking for is "rustic" yeah we got a lot of it in the uk
@@aspie2901 Rustic, old world charm, both terms work .