*[God of Makai]* SHINKI Shinki (神綺) is the creator of Makai, a world of demons whose entrance is located near the Hakurei Shrine in a mountain cave. She describes herself as a god. During the events of Mystic Square, Shinki allowed a Makai tourist agency to organize trips to Gensokyo for Makai demons, which caused problems for Gensokyo's residents. Reimu Hakurei, Marisa Kirisame, Mima and Yuuka Kazami traveled to Makai to put an end to this intrusion, defeating a number of Makai natives and Shinki herself. (from TouhouWiki) ZUN's comment about the track: "This is the last boss theme. Of course, I really put a lot of spirit into it. I was trying to make a song that had the right blend of coolness and cuteness. The main melody is pretty easy to remember, so it has a nice feel to it. Overall, I'm pretty fond of it."
I beleive the same thing! correct me if im wrong, but i heard that there wasnt any spellcard system in the pc-98 era so the battles were more brutal (like when shinki destroyed the whole city of makai)... You dont have the comedy and the brutality in the windows cannon sadly
Tenshit the masochist celestial Yes, I heard that too. sad thing I can't play that era... my laptop is way too weak and old for emulators... But yeah, I heard smth about that. The spell car system was brought in Gensokyo right before the Scarlet Devil incident. there are some theories that it was a pact between the youkai not to kill and eat any humans from the human village. In return, Yukari would gap bad humans from this one for the youkai to eat. This is probably cus the youkai need the humans to exist, and the humans need youkai to exist too. The last one was explained in a Manga called Forbidden Scrollery, I think it was Marisa that told Kosuzu about it.
Wait i didnt even knew Yukari would gap bad people into youkai... but who are the bad humans?!? Like Kosuzu or Sumireko? I dont get it -_- btw dont youkai live because humans believe on them? Like the gods, if no one believes on them (the youkai) they disappear (and thats the reason they came in gensokyo in the first place) so why do they need to eat humans? O wait, now that i think of it they do that to get scary for the humans and survive right? Oh and the latest chapter of forbidden scrollery shows us that Kozusu was possessed by Yukari or something and she had a youkai aura, maybe thats what you meant by saying that Yukari gaps bad people idfk
Tenshit the masochist celestial It was just a theory but the people Yukari gaps, are people from our world. The youkai still think that its their duty to eat humans(this is what Rumia believed). But indeed, if they ate all the people in the human village, there will be no one to fear them and they'd disappear. Yukari simply wants everything to be balanced and as the gatekeeper of the boundary between the world of Gensokyo and our world, she came with that solution. In the end, idk how much of it could be true since its all just a theory. But maybe it'll all become clear some day. I hope... And maybe we get to answer more questions about the pc-98 era which seemed to have disappeared as if it never existed, yet we still encounter some youkai from there like Yuuka and Alice.
Maybe it does make sense that Yukari gaps people into Gensokyo for that reason but not necessarily bad people, but only the forgotten ones because you know, everything forgotten goes into Gensokyo.... about the pc98 era being missing i have heard two theories: the first one is that everything that happened in the pc98 era was just Reimu's and Marisa's imagination since, you know, they were just kids at the time and had a wild imagination... and the second theory is that there was a war between Yukari and the pc98 characters (because they didnt agree in the spellcard rules, i dont remember....) and that the war was so intense that most of the land was destroyed. Thats why there are only 4 survivors, Reimu and Marisa were on Yukari's side and they were protected by her, Yuuka was strong enough and made it but her mansion and servants were destroyed and because of that she became more calmer(?) and didnt mock as much as she used to, and finally, Alice just had the grimoire and used the "ultimate magic" ... wow thats too deep and dark man
ZUN's stated in an interview coupled with Silent Sinner in Blue that Watatsuki no Yorihime will never appear in the games because you're supposed to be able to win in video games and you wouldn't be able to win against her. He's never said what the strongest being in the universe is (it's pretty obvious from texts like Cage in Lunatic Runagate that it'd be a major deity like Amaterasu or Tsukiyomi, not a character who actually appears in-game.)
Bogu dzięki żem Popciosław 1. Two is not a quantity greater than ("over") two. 2. Nobody dies in Touhou, except the ones who are already dead. 3. If the number of times the character appears as a boss is the gauge of their power (which it isn't,) then there are a whole bunch of other characters who qualify as stronger under your logic. Using real logic, the only possibilities are Watatsuki no Yorihime or the Dragon God of Gensokyo (en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Perfect_Memento_in_Strict_Sense/Dragon) Incidentally, the Dragon God Ryujin is also known as "Watatsumi," and has two daughters.
(Usual disclaimer : this comment is from 2013. I was 13 when writing it. It was written before translations for PC-98 games were available. It is full of completely wrong information and teenage cringe. Proceed at your own risk.) This truly is a dramatic battle. Shinki burnt her entire world down. Her power dominated her mind. She couldn't control herself anymore. She realized what she was doing, but there was no way to stop. Her true nature - the demon goddess she was - got back to the surface. She thought of every single one of her demon creations. Especially Yumeko, her biggest pride. She thought of them all as the demonic power unleashed its destructive force in vain, at the pathetic creature in front of her. Her whole creation, her whole world, she destroyed it. And when she finally regained control over herself, she didn't rebuild it. No, she ended the battle with that last attack, in the middle of the burning Pandemonium. Her daugther...she knew what her daugther had done. There was no purpose in rebuilding Makai. She didn't. And then, she vanished away, forever ashamed of what she had done.
QueenSerperior They should SO do an episode on that. They seem pretty reticent about doing anything Touhou-related for whatever reason. A Touhou Game Exchange would be so easy to make but yet...
One of my favorite final bosses of all time. Everything about this fight as perfect. The scenario (fighting the goddess of all demons and shit), the imagery (let it all burn), the fight itself was snugly in the middle of heart-pounding challenge without being ball-breaking, and this song. Not only is the song itself amazing, but I'm still floored by how the song was actually kind of timed to the battle, as each part of the song lasted just long enough for one of Shinki's phases, so while the fight built itself to a climax, so did the song. That's friggin' genius. And of course this gains one additional bonus point in retrospect for being the last battle of the entire PC-98 series, a true finale to the end of an era (not counting the extra stage, of course).
+matteo mm I disagree. I personally like patterns more than reflex-based doging. If you took away the patterns from Touhou, it wouldn't be anything, really.
Headcanon: When Shinki used Devil's Recitation, she destroyed not only Makai, but the ENTIRE PC-98 canon. All of the PC-98 characters except Reimu, Marisa, Alice, and Yuuka were wiped from the timeline. To the other characters, it was as if they had never existed. And the battle against Lolice takes place in the void of the destroyed timeline, that is, before the Windows canon came along and rebuilt it. ...Quick, someone make a PC-98 version of Concealed: The Conclusion with this concept.
Scary beginning, motivational, and sounds ominous as heck. It’s actually pretty good, not going to lie, I guess. 0:25 reminds me of a Touhou 1 or 2 track that I can’t remember (I think the track that i was thinking about is Touhou 1 music #04, lol)
Shinki : PLS DON'T COME BACK! *11 YeArS LaTeR : Reimu, Marisa, and Sanae come back.* Shinki : DAMN IT WHAT DID I JUST SAY- Byakuren : MOVE! THIS IS MY STAGE! YOU DON'T APPEAR IN THIS GAME! Shinki : Who da fuq-
fun fact: the cheeto lazer phase does a cirno due to how the cheeto's turning radius is. you can just stay right above her and nothing can hit you, and the phase will pass eventually even if you don't shoot her since, iirc, phases in MS do indeed have a long (and invisible) timer
There's also a rare glitch with the Cheeto lasers. If you end Stage 4 with one of those bullets on the screen, you'll be killed by an invisible one in the final stage before the fight.
This is the best theme of a final boss from touhou for me. I love other final boss theme from the series but this ones is very serious and has an "ultimate battle" feeling. One of my favorite final boss theme from video games.
Her design is impeccable. Eye-catching, beautiful, and yet commanding attention and respect. Just LOOKS like she should be the final boss. You know that fighting this girl will be anything but short or straightforward. And then you hear what she's capable of doing and you wonder what you've gotten poor Reimu into.
"Well, well, well... you've come far. Not only did you beat my dear Alice and my right-hand lady Yumeko... you've slaughtered every single one of my other children, that makes me mad. Leave now, and I'll let this slight slide." >NO YES "You wouldn't trust the Devil even if she gave you a easy way out? I'll teach you the consequences of your actions-have at you!"
"So you know about the Grimoire... The conditions for the Grimoire to be unsealed: a pure heart, which I don't possess. However, if it's *her* , I'm sure she can use the Grimoire's powers to become Makai's heroin and rule the land. Meanwhile, I'll show you what I *can* do as Makai's empress. Reimu, Marisa, Mima, Yuuka: drown in despair as you witness this world's absolute demise! LET'S START!!"
Actually this is false. Alice does not have a pure heart not even close. The Grimoire is an object that has no known origin, and it could have been created by Shinki herself. Of course I'm not saying your headcanon is kinda bad, but no that is exactly what I am saying.
When did the community first form? Whatever the case, I'm glad people still remember and recontextualize the PC-98 Era to this day. That's one aspect I'm proud of.
Shinki never burned her world down. When you beat her she concedes defeat and promises that she will do something about the tourist agency. Reimu goes back to her shrine and demons are still coming out of the portal or whatever it is. If anyone can find canon (NOT fanon) information about Shinki destroying everything, feel free to link me to it.
While I do love the new touhou games. There are just something unique about fighting Shinki at collapsing Makai while this theme blares on. Gives me a mix of nostalgia, sadness, and hope. I think that is because PC-98 Touhou have a much more serious tone compared to Windows-era.
Le me fighting against Shinki:- her theme is good *hits the **1:14** mark of the theme* ..... I'VE HEARD THAT PART BEFORE---- after defeating her I decided to search for the song that has the same rhythem on that part and I found it. Its Parallel Universe composed by VK
Dai chan that's another problem, humans cant live in maikai... forget about Alice, she's a living plot hole... well in any case she's a human that turn in to a Yokai
I've thought of this crazy theory. What if Makai is Gensokyo in the far future? Bear with me here, the resemblances are uncanny. Byakuren's backstory lines up closely with what seems to be happening to Reimu, and although they're different religions Reimu might convert if something bad happened. Shinki resembles a more grown-up Remilia, complete with maid. Yuki and Mai closely resembling Marisa and Cirno is widely noted, and although the latter two hate each other the former are at best tsundere. Alice is widely accepted to be a former human, but so is Yuyuko, and their powers are similar. And Yuuka could be her own past self, not inconceivable for her.
+alienspacebat 1. Gensokyo and Makai coexist 2. Alice remembers Reimu in PCB. So does Yuuka, implying MS took place in the past 3. Reimu and Byakuren are almost polar opposites. Reimu is a professional youkai exterinator, and shows no sympathy to anything remotely related to youkai (read Forbidden Scrollery). Also, they coexist in the same time frame, which would create a recursive paradox in the future 4. Alice and Yuyuko's powers aren't similar in the slightest. Alice = Magic. Yuyuko = Invoking death, whatever that means. And I don't know how Yuyuko fits into your theory 5. Even if Remi and Shinki look a bit similar, their abilities set them completely apart. Remi is nowhere *near* being able to create (or destroy) her own dimension parallel to Gensokyo.
Pablo Madrid You obviously didn't read my comment saying the portal to Makai might be a portal to the future, and besides, people can change a lot over time. Although yeah, Alice and Yuyuko was a bad idea.
I wonder how long it takes for people to realize that you have to travel through makai to get to hokkai? Stage 5: makai city (the rural part) Stage 6: Hokkai
ZUN made the game and the characters by himself with little help from fellow students. He just used the "Amusment Makers" name in his works like everyone did in his small group of peers.
- White, long, flowing hair. - Seraphim-style wings. Where have I seen this before~ (She even has a staff in the picture, though I never remember Shinki having that ingame.)
Infinite Being... That reminds me of Father Rodin, the EX-boss from Bayonetta, who is known as the Infinite One, and was the most powerful of all the heavenly beings next to Jubileus before being cast out and forgotten, spawning a hypothesis that he is actually Lucifer himself. Connection?
WOW You have dreams too?! Me too except everyone is some kind of character from the original games, sometimes follows the gaame plots but with our own humourous twist!
I like this strong theme She has a shocking resemblance to *Marisha* a cleric from Mystery of the emblem. Like Marisha straight up looks like Shinki but young. Marisha happens to have a friend named Yuliya who also kind of looks like Alice. Funnily enough Yumeko looke like Lachesis who's daughter Nanna kinda looks like Alice. Zun is def a fire emblem fan.
1 only the area of battle was wrecked not the whole Makai 2 no one has died they were just beaten up badly 3 even if that was the case she could just rebuild and resurrect everyone since she has complete power over Makai
i want shinki and mima to return no ALL I WANTED IS TO MAKE THE MYSTIC SQUARE RETURN AND MAKE THEM PLAYABLE CHARS IN TOUHOU 17! but will there be a touhou 17 though? :/
I never played the PC-98 era of Touhou. But I can't stop feeling the story behind this part of the game (I never played). The fact that the she destroyed Makai just to get Reimu is just *ugh* I don't know anymore. I just wish Shinki would make an appearance (even though I don't know her character that much).
Reminder Mima and *Yuuka* were also there, and went on quite a rampage. The infamous 'Genocide is just a game~* quote came from Yuuka in this game after all. It's entirely possible that background is Yuuka's doing
Touhou worlds and cosmology are inspired by Buddhism, the series is mostly based on Buddhism, shintoism, taoism and asian mythic. So Shinki is not satan, she is more like inspired by Demon Lord Mara Few similarities: 1) World: makai is not hell (they do not suffer like in hell), it is more like the place where demon live peacefully. Same to Mara, his realm he resides in is the highest of desire heaven “Paranimmitavasavatti” (devas who delight in others creation) are for celestial demon (powerful demon with powerful magic, not demons who burn in hell) 2) Title: Shinki is the god of demon world, the creator. Celestial demons in Paranimmitavasavatti can enjoy thier own and others creation, they are too powerful compare to celestials and gods from lower realm. Shinki theme being “legendary illusion”. One of Mara titles is also Mara the illusionist, or Lord of illusion 3) Power: Shinki is so powerful, she destroyed her own dimensional realm which is infinite sized, probably most powerful demon in the series. While satan is lame, in bible he easily lose to the weakest angel, he has no powerful aura like Shinki at all. Then we see Mara, the one who dared to challenge even the Buddha, Buddha gained enlightenment after winning against Mara. 4) Story: in touhou 12, Byakuren the one who got sealed away in Makai, people call her jesus because they think it’s resurrection, but i say she has become the awakened one (her theme is “cosmic mind”), she become free and came out from the world of illusion after that (it is similar to that, Buddha became free from greed, anger, illusion after he gained enlightenment) so Byakuren is inspired from Buddha and Shinki is inspired from Mara. Also Byakuren has spellcard looking like Shinki spell so they must have interacted, PC 98 cast still exist in modern version, it’s just that the story from pc 98 is not canon.
Imagine if Shinki and Byaruken Teamed Up With The Devil Recitation Powers...
*[God of Makai]*
SHINKI
Shinki (神綺) is the creator of Makai, a world of demons whose entrance is located near the Hakurei Shrine in a mountain cave. She describes herself as a god.
During the events of Mystic Square, Shinki allowed a Makai tourist agency to organize trips to Gensokyo for Makai demons, which caused problems for Gensokyo's residents. Reimu Hakurei, Marisa Kirisame, Mima and Yuuka Kazami traveled to Makai to put an end to this intrusion, defeating a number of Makai natives and Shinki herself. (from TouhouWiki)
ZUN's comment about the track:
"This is the last boss theme. Of course, I really put a lot of spirit into it.
I was trying to make a song that had the right blend of coolness and cuteness.
The main melody is pretty easy to remember, so it has a nice feel to it.
Overall, I'm pretty fond of it."
Jesus Christ stole the precious Makai~Infinite Being
True true
Is it me, or does pc-98 era sound much darker than windows? Not only darker, but also more majestic.
I beleive the same thing! correct me if im wrong, but i heard that there wasnt any spellcard system in the pc-98 era so the battles were more brutal (like when shinki destroyed the whole city of makai)... You dont have the comedy and the brutality in the windows cannon sadly
Tenshit the masochist celestial
Yes, I heard that too. sad thing I can't play that era... my laptop is way too weak and old for emulators... But yeah, I heard smth about that. The spell car system was brought in Gensokyo right before the Scarlet Devil incident. there are some theories that it was a pact between the youkai not to kill and eat any humans from the human village. In return, Yukari would gap bad humans from this one for the youkai to eat. This is probably cus the youkai need the humans to exist, and the humans need youkai to exist too. The last one was explained in a Manga called Forbidden Scrollery, I think it was Marisa that told Kosuzu about it.
Wait i didnt even knew Yukari would gap bad people into youkai... but who are the bad humans?!? Like Kosuzu or Sumireko? I dont get it -_- btw dont youkai live because humans believe on them? Like the gods, if no one believes on them (the youkai) they disappear (and thats the reason they came in gensokyo in the first place) so why do they need to eat humans? O wait, now that i think of it they do that to get scary for the humans and survive right? Oh and the latest chapter of forbidden scrollery shows us that Kozusu was possessed by Yukari or something and she had a youkai aura, maybe thats what you meant by saying that Yukari gaps bad people idfk
Tenshit the masochist celestial
It was just a theory but the people Yukari gaps, are people from our world. The youkai still think that its their duty to eat humans(this is what Rumia believed). But indeed, if they ate all the people in the human village, there will be no one to fear them and they'd disappear. Yukari simply wants everything to be balanced and as the gatekeeper of the boundary between the world of Gensokyo and our world, she came with that solution.
In the end, idk how much of it could be true since its all just a theory. But maybe it'll all become clear some day. I hope... And maybe we get to answer more questions about the pc-98 era which seemed to have disappeared as if it never existed, yet we still encounter some youkai from there like Yuuka and Alice.
Maybe it does make sense that Yukari gaps people into Gensokyo for that reason but not necessarily bad people, but only the forgotten ones because you know, everything forgotten goes into Gensokyo.... about the pc98 era being missing i have heard two theories: the first one is that everything that happened in the pc98 era was just Reimu's and Marisa's imagination since, you know, they were just kids at the time and had a wild imagination... and the second theory is that there was a war between Yukari and the pc98 characters (because they didnt agree in the spellcard rules, i dont remember....) and that the war was so intense that most of the land was destroyed. Thats why there are only 4 survivors, Reimu and Marisa were on Yukari's side and they were protected by her, Yuuka was strong enough and made it but her mansion and servants were destroyed and because of that she became more calmer(?) and didnt mock as much as she used to, and finally, Alice just had the grimoire and used the "ultimate magic" ... wow thats too deep and dark man
I truly love how powerful it sounds even with the hardware limitations. ZUN is truly a mastermind when it comes to stories/music.
Alice's mom has got it going on.
I feel like this is the original "good person forced into doing something horrible for the greater good of their people" theme.
Necessary Evil theme
Double Dealing Character in a nutshell.
One of the few villains that tried to utterly destroy you.
Your profile pic goes great with this comment!
How about Junko?
@@moh.syafrianabie8899 "One of the few villain"
Junko exists there too.
You mean in Touhou?
Because almost every single villains in fiction want to utterly destroy you
UFO : You shall pass ! MS : YOU SHALL NOT PASS !!!
byakuren no
+Bravigaufre Test at school: YOU SHALL NOT PASS!!!
And her last attack is ridiculous compared to her previous one lol
Umbra the SHDW Shou me some more of your skills !
Kid named Buddha's Light "Vajra of Perfect Buddhism"
4:07-4:20 has that very special, famous ZUN motif that everyone knows and loves, which I find pretty cool
Yea and Toby fox copy it look like Toby like it too
Shikieiki, Yukari, Shinki, Watatsuki sisters. I don't even know who's the strongest being in the Touhou universe.
Cir... YES!! Of course I would say it's Yukari!
ZUN's stated in an interview coupled with Silent Sinner in Blue that Watatsuki no Yorihime will never appear in the games because you're supposed to be able to win in video games and you wouldn't be able to win against her. He's never said what the strongest being in the universe is (it's pretty obvious from texts like Cage in Lunatic Runagate that it'd be a major deity like Amaterasu or Tsukiyomi, not a character who actually appears in-game.)
Yuuka. Cause murdering is fun and deafeting her need to take over 2 battles.
With Yukari was just one.
You don't ''kill'' her, you have a fun battle with her. If she did use her maxed power, Reimu would be dead in mere seconds.
Bogu dzięki żem Popciosław 1. Two is not a quantity greater than ("over") two.
2. Nobody dies in Touhou, except the ones who are already dead.
3. If the number of times the character appears as a boss is the gauge of their power (which it isn't,) then there are a whole bunch of other characters who qualify as stronger under your logic.
Using real logic, the only possibilities are Watatsuki no Yorihime or the Dragon God of Gensokyo (en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Perfect_Memento_in_Strict_Sense/Dragon)
Incidentally, the Dragon God Ryujin is also known as "Watatsumi," and has two daughters.
I absolutely can't get over how epic it is when the music syncs perfectly as she unleashes her ultimate attack here in 2:10
I love delaying the battle slightly just to make the cheeto lasers or the iconic attack Byakuren stole, show up at that point.
Great Magic "Devil's Recitation"
this song and this battle were something else
the FINAL BOSS touhou before it became modern
Huh.....crosover with touhou
@@petergriffin1331 whaat is fnas? why is it crossover?
@@WatatsukiNoToyohime its a dead bullshit...pretend its not real
I just realized you can hear bits of this ost in native faith
and in the slow part of emotional skyscraper
1:14 Bits of Mima's theme too
remember when god burned down a city
what
remember when god burned down a city
what
Sodom & Gomorrah was destroyed by a meteor shower. Does that count?
and that's why it took 7 games for Makai to show up again...
(Usual disclaimer : this comment is from 2013. I was 13 when writing it. It was written before translations for PC-98 games were available. It is full of completely wrong information and teenage cringe. Proceed at your own risk.)
This truly is a dramatic battle.
Shinki burnt her entire world down. Her power dominated her mind. She couldn't control herself anymore. She realized what she was doing, but there was no way to stop. Her true nature - the demon goddess she was - got back to the surface. She thought of every single one of her demon creations. Especially Yumeko, her biggest pride. She thought of them all as the demonic power unleashed its destructive force in vain, at the pathetic creature in front of her.
Her whole creation, her whole world, she destroyed it. And when she finally regained control over herself, she didn't rebuild it. No, she ended the battle with that last attack, in the middle of the burning Pandemonium. Her daugther...she knew what her daugther had done. There was no purpose in rebuilding Makai.
She didn't. And then, she vanished away, forever ashamed of what she had done.
*****
Well that's only a theory.
blara2401 A Game theory
QueenSerperior
They should SO do an episode on that. They seem pretty reticent about doing anything Touhou-related for whatever reason. A Touhou Game Exchange would be so easy to make but yet...
blara2401 They may not know about it
QueenSerperior
Oh, they do. I've seen many, MANY requests for one. They just pretend these aren't there.
One of my favorite final bosses of all time. Everything about this fight as perfect. The scenario (fighting the goddess of all demons and shit), the imagery (let it all burn), the fight itself was snugly in the middle of heart-pounding challenge without being ball-breaking, and this song.
Not only is the song itself amazing, but I'm still floored by how the song was actually kind of timed to the battle, as each part of the song lasted just long enough for one of Shinki's phases, so while the fight built itself to a climax, so did the song. That's friggin' genius.
And of course this gains one additional bonus point in retrospect for being the last battle of the entire PC-98 series, a true finale to the end of an era (not counting the extra stage, of course).
+matteo mm I disagree. I personally like patterns more than reflex-based doging. If you took away the patterns from Touhou, it wouldn't be anything, really.
i just want ZUN to bring back all pc98 player.They looks very cool
Well,just let they're in their places lol
But honestly,i wanna see their spellcard and non spell,and their themes in Windows
@@Guacamole2408 anyway, only in case ZUN brings them back...
Oh yes. I'd love to see Mima, Konngara, Shinki, Sariel... ah, hell, everyone!
@Guacamole2408ok let's see if we could extract the .m songs and then play it on SD-90 ( don't ask why )
As stated by ZUN in somewhere in the music CDs' description...
"The former Miko is already forgotten."
Or something like that.
where is said Description?
So, the PC-98 reimu ain't reimu, is it?
Hecatia: allow me to introduce myself
yukari's inf boundary power limit: allow me to introduce myself
Tewi beated up Zun: allow me to introduce myself
Headcanon: When Shinki used Devil's Recitation, she destroyed not only Makai, but the ENTIRE PC-98 canon. All of the PC-98 characters except Reimu, Marisa, Alice, and Yuuka were wiped from the timeline. To the other characters, it was as if they had never existed.
And the battle against Lolice takes place in the void of the destroyed timeline, that is, before the Windows canon came along and rebuilt it.
...Quick, someone make a PC-98 version of Concealed: The Conclusion with this concept.
Who is Grimoire Lolice?
+Blabl Zork
EX-Alice, i.e., young Alice wielding the Grimoire.
Jesus Christ,
Mystic Square confirmed for Jojo Part 6?
Stand: Made in Makai
Stand Master: Shinki
Well, you know, then why does Makai exist?
I'm fairly sure she just destroyed the capital, which she could easily just poof back into existence.
OH NO! you made shinki mad!
now she's gonna use hax sigh" burn everything".
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Oh no too op for
AoT
ONE PIECE
DBZ
OPM
FATE
SAINT SEIYA
TO ALL ANIME IS IMPOSIBLE TO BEAT SHINKI
Makai Sign - "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPIIIIIIIIII FFFFUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHH AAAAAAAAAAA"
Keiki was here.
What do you mean?
Oh wow
Scary beginning, motivational, and sounds ominous as heck. It’s actually pretty good, not going to lie, I guess. 0:25 reminds me of a Touhou 1 or 2 track that I can’t remember
(I think the track that i was thinking about is Touhou 1 music #04, lol)
In love with the first 26 seconds
Cirno “when you only have 26 seconds left on your final exam and your only half done”
@@loyalseawing8621 When you find out that you've just mocked the strongest fairy to ever exist.
Shinki : PLS DON'T COME BACK!
*11 YeArS LaTeR : Reimu, Marisa, and Sanae come back.*
Shinki : DAMN IT WHAT DID I JUST SAY-
Byakuren : MOVE! THIS IS MY STAGE! YOU DON'T APPEAR IN THIS GAME!
Shinki : Who da fuq-
shinki is now one of my favorite Touhou-characters *-*
Welcome to touhou lost word shinki
hi, would you have 45 minutes to spare to talk about of Goddess and Creator, Shinki?
philip charpentier-havill Can we do it in a retrospective 53 minutes instead? I don't have 45 minutes to spare. Only 53.
+philip charpentier-havill (Ikuto Tsukiyomi) CONVERT ME PLEASE
+philip charpentier-havill (Ikuto Tsukiyomi) Would you have 45 minutes to spare to talk about of Goddess and Creator, Madoka Kaname
Did you just say... PIZZA?!
Do any of you have some time so I can tell you about the Lord and creator of your lord and creator, ZUN?
It's Creator-ception, guys.
The only part of this fight I dislike is the Cheeto lasers. Those are the most annoying thing ever.
Goddamn gummy worms.
fun fact: the cheeto lazer phase does a cirno due to how the cheeto's turning radius is. you can just stay right above her and nothing can hit you, and the phase will pass eventually even if you don't shoot her since, iirc, phases in MS do indeed have a long (and invisible) timer
There's also a rare glitch with the Cheeto lasers. If you end Stage 4 with one of those bullets on the screen, you'll be killed by an invisible one in the final stage before the fight.
Funny, those are my favorite. I love how you end up forced to graze them so closely.
When you're going to battle a god but you don't know how to beat her
This is the best theme of a final boss from touhou for me. I love other final boss theme from the series but this ones is very serious and has an "ultimate battle" feeling.
One of my favorite final boss theme from video games.
What about Pure Furies?
Girl used so much power spell card rules had to be created for the next game
shinki destroyed all of comments?
***** ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Remilia Scarlet omfg the scarlet sisters
+Yukari - Sama Yukari go back to sleep
Toyosatomimi no Miko and u go back to ur eternal slumber
Lol what a fight ^^
2:02 is the best part of the song. Period.
It took me forever and a day to beat her.
It's gonna take a LONG time for me to get to her and defeat her, especially on Lunatic mode.
And PC-98 game mechanics can be irritating at times.
Byakuren = Jesus
Shinki = Satan
Hakurei Reimu = Chuck norris
Hakurei Miko = Bruce Lee
Kirisame Marisa = Jackie chan
Zeta Nu i can’t unsee this, but damn did I crack up.
Wait a second.....
Oh ........
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Hello?
But isn't the Hakurei Miko and Hakurei Reimu the same tho???
who is hakurei miko?
@@lucane8172 Sendai Hakurei no Miko, the fan-made MUGEN character with abs that would put a Jojo character to shame.
Shinki, my fav Touhou goddess
Shinki's neck in this picture is really long
Her staff looks correct.
moondriven Uh?
moondriven Nevermind.
Well, you have a gud day.
3GearsTurning The image for her level theme is worse
I love her theme, despite the very flimsy plot of Mystic Square, it's such a powerful song even with the hardware limitations
2:03 My favorite part.
Same
Her design is impeccable. Eye-catching, beautiful, and yet commanding attention and respect. Just LOOKS like she should be the final boss.
You know that fighting this girl will be anything but short or straightforward.
And then you hear what she's capable of doing and you wonder what you've gotten poor Reimu into.
2:03 Maple Wise... ;-; It's like she's trying to remember the good times but can't beat the rage.
"Well, well, well... you've come far. Not only did you beat my dear Alice and my right-hand lady Yumeko... you've slaughtered every single one of my other children, that makes me mad. Leave now, and I'll let this slight slide." >NO YES
"You wouldn't trust the Devil even if she gave you a easy way out? I'll teach you the consequences of your actions-have at you!"
OO
"So you know about the Grimoire... The conditions for the Grimoire to be unsealed: a pure heart, which I don't possess. However, if it's *her* , I'm sure she can use the Grimoire's powers to become Makai's heroin and rule the land. Meanwhile, I'll show you what I *can* do as Makai's empress. Reimu, Marisa, Mima, Yuuka: drown in despair as you witness this world's absolute demise! LET'S START!!"
Actually this is false. Alice does not have a pure heart not even close. The Grimoire is an object that has no known origin, and it could have been created by Shinki herself. Of course I'm not saying your headcanon is kinda bad, but no that is exactly what I am saying.
Jesus stole Satan's danmaku.
Kind of funny how ppl still think she destroyed makai when we literally visit it in UFO
And now this is back albeit in Touhou Lost Word!
The best we will ever get tbh
And a few months ago we got Gengetsu and Mugetsu who right now are back in the gacha for a few days
lasers and balls. oh and more lasers... and lots of bullet lets not forget about those. imo shinki is best 2hu
NegativeInfinity And Hell's own brand of gummy worms.
Sounds really melancholic and powerful to me. This shows an another way to perceive Mystic Square and Shinki's viewpoint.
When did the community first form?
Whatever the case, I'm glad people still remember and recontextualize the PC-98 Era to this day. That's one aspect I'm proud of.
@@blockeontheleafeon about 3 years ago I think^^
@@ssaamil That's nice. ^^
Shinki never burned her world down. When you beat her she concedes defeat and promises that she will do something about the tourist agency. Reimu goes back to her shrine and demons are still coming out of the portal or whatever it is. If anyone can find canon (NOT fanon) information about Shinki destroying everything, feel free to link me to it.
idk about that.
Chances are, if she even did cause ANY destruction, it was only the location the battle took place, rather than the entire dimension of Makai.
I'm pretty sure that Makai was left standing.
She definitely levelled Pandæmonium, though.
Even if it did happen, she is a god and could easily restore whatever damage was done.
Fanon always exaggerates to extreme degrees.
While I do love the new touhou games. There are just something unique about fighting Shinki at collapsing Makai while this theme blares on. Gives me a mix of nostalgia, sadness, and hope. I think that is because PC-98 Touhou have a much more serious tone compared to Windows-era.
For me the song is full of feelings like shinki is angry and sad and kinda want revenge for the rampage the player has made in her wold
Le me fighting against Shinki:- her theme is good
*hits the **1:14** mark of the theme*
..... I'VE HEARD THAT PART BEFORE----
after defeating her I decided to search for the song that has the same rhythem on that part and I found it. Its Parallel Universe composed by VK
I don't want to go to heaven. Instead I want to go to makai when I am dead.
Makai is not hell, that's Jigoku (the second route of Touhou1).
If you go to Makai, you will get instantly eaten by a demon XD
Responder
murloc4252884 what I mean is: I die and then enter that cycle of next life and reborn as a makai human
Dai chan that's another problem, humans cant live in maikai... forget about Alice, she's a living plot hole... well in any case she's a human that turn in to a Yokai
murloc4252884 truth hurts
murloc4252884 but I don't know what people in makai is called. I would like to reborn as a 魔界人
I've thought of this crazy theory. What if Makai is Gensokyo in the far future? Bear with me here, the resemblances are uncanny. Byakuren's backstory lines up closely with what seems to be happening to Reimu, and although they're different religions Reimu might convert if something bad happened. Shinki resembles a more grown-up Remilia, complete with maid. Yuki and Mai closely resembling Marisa and Cirno is widely noted, and although the latter two hate each other the former are at best tsundere. Alice is widely accepted to be a former human, but so is Yuyuko, and their powers are similar. And Yuuka could be her own past self, not inconceivable for her.
+alienspacebat That's impossible, since Makai and Gensokyo both exist in the same time period, look at Alice and Byakuren.
Mijova Kalaydzhieva Yeah but... what if the door to Makai is actually a time portal?
+alienspacebat (insert dramatic music here)
+alienspacebat
1. Gensokyo and Makai coexist
2. Alice remembers Reimu in PCB. So does Yuuka, implying MS took place in the past
3. Reimu and Byakuren are almost polar opposites. Reimu is a professional youkai exterinator, and shows no sympathy to anything remotely related to youkai (read Forbidden Scrollery). Also, they coexist in the same time frame, which would create a recursive paradox in the future
4. Alice and Yuyuko's powers aren't similar in the slightest. Alice = Magic. Yuyuko = Invoking death, whatever that means. And I don't know how Yuyuko fits into your theory
5. Even if Remi and Shinki look a bit similar, their abilities set them completely apart. Remi is nowhere *near* being able to create (or destroy) her own dimension parallel to Gensokyo.
Pablo Madrid You obviously didn't read my comment saying the portal to Makai might be a portal to the future, and besides, people can change a lot over time. Although yeah, Alice and Yuyuko was a bad idea.
pc98 2hus with kek:
yuukek kekzami
chiyuri kekshirasawa
yumemi okekzakek
kekuri
shingyokek
ruukekto
shinkek
yumekek
rikek (rika)
rikekako
brb getting rekt in makai
shinkek lol
raidou 祝 terrible
Kekgetsu
When your battle is so good it becomes the definitive template for some of the best future final bosses
Also th5 and 17 is just an SMT reference
Keiki: wanna see me do it again?
BEST FINAL BOSS .PERIOD
Second for me, only to Sariel herself. :3
Well im trying to change my name to spinkappa but i cant right now
no
B-but, Junko and Utsuho ?
I GIVE 10/10 TO THE ALMIGHTY FINAL BOSSES SARIEL SHINKI AND UTSUHO
ULTIMATE DESTRUCTION = DEVILS REINCARNATION + GENGETSU RAEP TIEM
oh my god
after listening to this after a couple of times, I'm just gonna say that this shows part of the excellence that Zun is capable of.
her being the last boss of touhou pc-98 before the windows era, she should be more popular..
As far as I know, she's second only to Mima when someone wants to bring back old canon characters.
And I thought Toyosatomimi no Miko is the Youkai Antichrist
I know you may have listened to this many times I just say Officer Shinki how your theme is :D
It's really great, but actually, I like An Ordeal From God more.
Simply because it gives a more holy feel.
Officer Shinki I'll listen to that :D
I call this theme the "final fight of the PC-98 universe with PC-98 Jesus- wait no Satan"
Underrated as fuck imo
why is Ms. Claus trying to kill me I was on the nice list I swear 😰
Why do I get confused with Shinki and Shikieiki
Dont worry. There was a time when i mixed the names and created an aberration. Shinkieiki
Shinki+Keiki=Shinkieiki
@@jorgewaldimir9866 Shinkikeiki
the background melody at 2:03 is kinda similar to the doll maker of buchresti's opening.
that's not specific to doll maker.
gooood I want the old characters in the new games SO BADLY! D:
This girl looks like a really nice person.
About 1:16 I realized that some Windows theme sounds like this part..... but I can't seem to put my finger on it.....
Sounds like cirno. Idk.
it sounds like a final or an extra stage's bosses' theme.
Erin Redmond
Kinda like Suwako?
Sounds a tiny bit like Eiki's theme...
Native Faith?
I wonder how long it takes for people to realize that you have to travel through makai to get to hokkai?
Stage 5: makai city (the rural part)
Stage 6: Hokkai
Yes, she does.
It's just that I wouldn't see Tenshis power in the same level as Shinkis and Yukaris.
*_-I would love to see Touhou 16 by Amusement Makers-_*
haha Touhou 16 is made by ZUN alone
surprise surprise
K.
I'm sure you're not serious, and already know ZUN still made the games, with amusement makers being nothing more than a group of students.
ZUN made the game and the characters by himself with little help from fellow students. He just used the "Amusment Makers" name in his works like everyone did in his small group of peers.
premium cancer This.
Oh yes.
Shinki-sama noticed me.
Amusement Makers just helped distribute the games :V
Legendary ILLUSION ~ INFINITE Being
Shinki is the villain of Sonic Forces confirmed?
prob not, since touhou 5 if from 1990+ *(wait but maybe, coincidence?)*
- White, long, flowing hair.
- Seraphim-style wings.
Where have I seen this before~
(She even has a staff in the picture, though I never remember Shinki having that ingame.)
Are you trying to say that Shinki is touhou's Sephiroth?
Awe, She's a nice satan :P
In Transformers, there's Unicorn, who's basically Robot Satan.
In Touhou, there's Shinki, who's basically Youkai Satan.
She is Giratina then
Got it
We don't know if Shinki is a Youkai, she's more similar to a God.
Infinite Being... That reminds me of Father Rodin, the EX-boss from Bayonetta, who is known as the Infinite One, and was the most powerful of all the heavenly beings next to Jubileus before being cast out and forgotten, spawning a hypothesis that he is actually Lucifer himself.
Connection?
I don't have any connection except for the fact that ME AND SHINKI USE THE SAME THEME!!!
Hopes and Dreams sounds a little bit like this
Woah....go for it ! I cosplayed as Ran and i got many persons asking about my cosplay and stuff.
Go for it !
WOW You have dreams too?! Me too except everyone is some kind of character from the original games, sometimes follows the gaame plots but with our own humourous twist!
And Unzan is God.
Can't be unseen.
The first sounds like magical storm
I like this strong theme
She has a shocking resemblance to *Marisha* a cleric from Mystery of the emblem. Like Marisha straight up looks like Shinki but young. Marisha happens to have a friend named Yuliya who also kind of looks like Alice. Funnily enough Yumeko looke like Lachesis who's daughter Nanna kinda looks like Alice. Zun is def a fire emblem fan.
It checks out, many of the characters from the pc-98 era were references to characters from other popular media of the time
Poor Shinki, everything she created was destroyed and her loved ones were taken from her. I blame Yuuka.
At least Yuuka didn't pretend to be good people.
1 only the area of battle was wrecked not the whole Makai
2 no one has died they were just beaten up badly
3 even if that was the case she could just rebuild and resurrect everyone since she has complete power over Makai
Aww, Byakuren always gets to play the role of Jesus~ ^^
I want the Pc-98 cast to return....
i want shinki and mima to return
no
ALL I WANTED IS TO MAKE THE MYSTIC SQUARE RETURN AND MAKE THEM PLAYABLE CHARS IN TOUHOU 17!
but will there be a touhou 17 though? :/
That's never gonna happen!
I mean, we got Reimu, Marisa, Alice, Yuuka, "Mima" (Tojiko), Shinki in Jesus form (Byakuren) in the windows era.
@@GoldenEmpyrean … even they have changes, friend. Even they have changes…
First time hear : Meh bored
Next time hear : I fucking love this
Perfect music for the state of the world right now...
I never played the PC-98 era of Touhou. But I can't stop feeling the story behind this part of the game (I never played). The fact that the she destroyed Makai just to get Reimu is just *ugh* I don't know anymore. I just wish Shinki would make an appearance (even though I don't know her character that much).
Reminder Mima and *Yuuka* were also there, and went on quite a rampage.
The infamous 'Genocide is just a game~* quote came from Yuuka in this game after all.
It's entirely possible that background is Yuuka's doing
Don't just giving all credits to reimu
Touhou worlds and cosmology are inspired by Buddhism, the series is mostly based on Buddhism, shintoism, taoism and asian mythic. So Shinki is not satan, she is more like inspired by Demon Lord Mara
Few similarities:
1) World: makai is not hell (they do not suffer like in hell), it is more like the place where demon live peacefully. Same to Mara, his realm he resides in is the highest of desire heaven “Paranimmitavasavatti” (devas who delight in others creation) are for celestial demon (powerful demon with powerful magic, not demons who burn in hell)
2) Title: Shinki is the god of demon world, the creator. Celestial demons in Paranimmitavasavatti can enjoy thier own and others creation, they are too powerful compare to celestials and gods from lower realm. Shinki theme being “legendary illusion”. One of Mara titles is also Mara the illusionist, or Lord of illusion
3) Power: Shinki is so powerful, she destroyed her own dimensional realm which is infinite sized, probably most powerful demon in the series. While satan is lame, in bible he easily lose to the weakest angel, he has no powerful aura like Shinki at all. Then we see Mara, the one who dared to challenge even the Buddha, Buddha gained enlightenment after winning against Mara.
4) Story: in touhou 12, Byakuren the one who got sealed away in Makai, people call her jesus because they think it’s resurrection, but i say she has become the awakened one (her theme is “cosmic mind”), she become free and came out from the world of illusion after that (it is similar to that, Buddha became free from greed, anger, illusion after he gained enlightenment) so Byakuren is inspired from Buddha and Shinki is inspired from Mara. Also Byakuren has spellcard looking like Shinki spell so they must have interacted, PC 98 cast still exist in modern version, it’s just that the story from pc 98 is not canon.
Its literally japanese mythology, touhou is set on ancient japan
Bupty bupty bopty this song is now my propriety
"I was spawned from human desire... So long as your kind exist, so shall I!"
...Wait, if Shinki blew up Makai, then how the heck did Touhou 12 happen?!
*burned makai city
the last pc98 boss theme.
Grimoire of Alice is the last pc-98 boss theme.
MS Alice: "Is my theme Grimoire of Alice a joke to you?"
No
Besth Theme
Power metal as hell, from 1:14 onwards until the end of the loop...