MASTER of WINE RATES 100 PARKER Point Wine & TETRA PAK Wine
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I have scored quite a few wines on this channel, and I am going to continue scoring wines for you guys. Not because I think that there is no other way to talk about the quality of the wine but and because I think, that scores are perfect but because I think they are a helpful addition to my reviews as they represent a firm commitment. I know, however, that scores are very confusing to some of you, so I decided to show you how scores work by tasting two extreme examples next to each other: First: Likely one of the worst wines in the world. And Second: A wine that received a perfect score of 100 points from Robert Parker and is therefore probably one of the best wines in the world …
I realize that scores are a tricky topic and I have received a few comments on the latest videos that I have to talk about. I score wines because it makes it easier for you and my customers to understand which wines I preferred in a tasting and because it helps ME keep track of which wines, I liked best
One big problem with Scores is that they can be confusing as few people seem to understand the 100-point scale so let’s start with that. There are many different scoring systems but by far the most important one today is the 100-point system.
It does not start at 0 but instead starts at 50 points for an unacceptable wine and then goes up to 100 points for a perfect wine. This is loosely based on the US High School grading system where a score of 50-60 points is an F. 
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I'm a camera operator that travels and films with a myriad of subjects. I had a chance to follow a higher profile actor around the world for his own reality show. This person has a reputation for loving expensive red wines; also he seemed ok walking away from half finished bottles, or letting some crew get a pour of something special. This led me to splitting the last half of a 2012 Petrus with another colleague as well filming on the grounds of Sassicaia with an all included lunch/tasting at the end. The conditions of my job is probably the only way I would have had a chance to experience any of this, so I am grateful for the opportunity. While i was always attracted to aura of wine and the dusty cellar, these few sips were enough for me to want to continue my journey with wine and learn as much as I can; albeit with a mostly working class budget.
Thanks for calling out Luca Maroni. Taste is obviously subjective but I hate just about every, southern Italian sugarbomb which he rates at 99 points
right!! F*** you Luca!! 😅😅
Totally agree
I think he rates Tignanello about 60-70 points and the sugarbombs at 99. Absolutely delusional haha.
Our taste is not just subjective, but often very different what people really think it is tasty and what they tell it is tasty, especially wines, beers, or any type of fermented, or alcoholic drinks. Give a sip of beer or wine to a child and he/she reacts honestly.
I love value wines like Vina Ardanza and Vina Tondonia - amazing experience for decent price!
Next content you should do 100 pts critics face off. For instance, 100pts by Robert Parker vs 100pts by James Sucking, etc
How long would you recommend to cellar the TetraPak?
Until the in-laws come for a visit.
Put the Tetra Pak wine in an empty bottle of a 100 points wine, make some popcorn and watch them saying that is the greatest wine ever.
Drink before the Best Before Date ...
DYA:not going to improve!
@@williamkellermann8823 EXACTLY!
Great video. Love the comparison and your honesty on both wines. Well done.
Great shirt 👊🏼
Love the content.
1994 Sine Qua Non Queen of Spades, in 2001. I have a Spottswoode 2011 CS sleeping in the cellar. Thanks for the video, it was fun!
This was amazing. I’d love to see a video on how to asses different flaws/undesirable characteristics such as volatile acidity, oxidation, heat damage, “over the hill” wines etc. -Chris
Chateaux Margaux 1988. Sometimes it's useful having a french father in law 😆
Terrific video as always Konstantin, thank you for the great content! Would love to see a “wine in 10” video on mourvedre/mataro!
Thank you, Konstantin. . Usefully informative.
So envious thinking of you enjoying the Spottswoode over dinner!
Oh yes!
Most important wine (to me) I’ve ever had was a 96 gaja Spurs - changed how I think about wine - since that day I stopped buying new world wines and started collecting Piedmontese - burgundy and Sangiovese wines. Other memorable wines for me Include Paolo Bea pagliaro, drouhin clos de mouches 2002, uccileria BdM 04 and Azelia San Rocco 2004
The best wine I’ve ever tasted was Chateau Lafite 1920 in the seventies. 100 points. This wine was what‘s become the definition of a great Bordeaux for me. More recently it was a Quinta do Cotto Grande Escolha 1985 from Portugal. The wine was 20 years old. Tastes like a great aged Bordeaux. I would rate this wine at 95 points and I bet that it would even be better today.
The topic of expertise is one that just keeps on amazing me. I must say that wine tasting is a skill that I quite do not understand yet, thus, your master class has allowed me to continue trusting more criteria than main stream. Gracias!
Thank you, Konstantin, for clarifying this a bit more. I think the main issue with the point systems is that they are subjective. However, if you can find a judge you trust, it can prove very helpful.
Again, relatively new to the wine world, but to date I think the best wine I've ever had was from a local winery here in Texas. It was a Heath Sparkling Blanc de Blanc and it was absolutely delicious!
Great channel!! I recently came across your Vivino videos and it got me hooked!
Welcome aboard!
Very interesting and informative. Thanks :) I'd love to know which one you hold as the most priceworthy, i.e not the best. My favourite is the christmann idig spätburgunder GG
I had a 1988 château cheval blanc that made me feel like I was a kid playing in a pile of autumn leafs. I’ll never forget it
The best wine I've ever had...or rather, enjoyed the most, was the 1998 Tignanello. I drank it in 2006 and it was the first 'expensive' wine I'd ever tasted when I was starting to get to know wine. It was part of a birthday dinner for me, so that probably had to do as well. Enjoy your channel, cheers!
Thanks for the consulting bomb! Your every comment helps me to get deeper into wines.
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Love this channel, it's super fun, geeky but not snob. Thanks master Konstantin.
Glad you enjoy it!
Thanks to you for making this kind of comparison, it's very interesting!
For my part, the best memory I have for a wine is the Champagne Pommery Cuvée Louise 1999, drunk 2 years ago... Fortunately I have another one in my cellar
Loving your videos more and more. Very educational. Living near Napa Valley and seeing all the wines you feature in your channel is great. If you have some time and this is a subject you want to touch at some point, would you do a video reviewing great wines to cellar for 3-5 years. I.e. grab a bargain now and drink a master piece in a few years kind of angle... Thanks for sharing all your knowledge!
Good video and great pick of the Spottswoode 2016
So far my fav is Vina Tondonia 2008, Rjoja. Drunk this year while visiting Spain. I liked everything in the wine, fine aromas, and smoothness on the palate. Also, it was a great value for the money u pay.
Great vid all ways!
I recently had a Martinelli Zinfandel that was a 97 R.Parker that was amazing!
Robert Parker 100 points ratings go hand-in-hand with the amenities bestowed on him by the winemakers upon his vacations. I remember once seeing him at Quinta do Vallado fuming for not having a villa (he was given a very comfortable room for free) and making off-handed remarks about the wine. Quinta do Vallado scores never were the same after that.
After being dog-bitten at Chateau Margaux his score went up dramatically for that vintage of the same wine. Apparently there are mighty factors beyond winemaking or viticulture that could fetch higher scores. Successful winemaker today need to be a tad more entrepreneurial than just resting on pure winemaking passion.
I love stories like this…. It’s sad, we’re all just walking $$$.
@@RvdW22 In the end, yes. Dirk Nieport's approach to wine critics is to just send the bottles for review, nothing more: no visits, no extra wine cases, no Michelin-studded meals to go with the wine. That why his wines are one of the best kept secrets in the world, with Turris being probably the best wine currently produced.
I posted a reply to this in which I took issue with the comments in the main note. I stated that I know Robert Parker well and have been with him on a number of occasions. Aside from his ability as a wine critic, he is unpretentious and honest and my reply said so. I am disappointed to see that my reply was not published. And the dog bite incident was not at Chateau Margaux, as another note states. I do not agree with every comment or grade Parker provides but question any note which seeks to cast aspersions on his honesty or integrity.
I recently discovered your channel and I’m really enjoying your videos and learning a lot, your explanations are very informative. That said I’d love to see some more video on wines that are widely available and popular in the $15-30$ range. Keep up the great content!
Glad you like them!
Brilliant! Thank you!
I was first exposed to drinking wine in the early 80's when I lived in northern California. Both of my brothers-in-law were avid wine drinkers and collectors of wine. Most of the wines I drank were either from Napa or Sonoma. Many of them were very good and cultivated within me a deep appreciation of fine wines. I had a surgery around 2010 that removed polyps from my nasal cavity and reduced my sense of taste and smell by about 80 percent. I can still taste the difference between a good wine and a bad wine but the bad wine just doesn't bother me like it would have long ago because of the surgery. I usually just drink box wine these days. It is cheap and it just doesn't make sense to spend more money on better wine quality when I can only just barely discern that better quality. Still, the box wine isn't terrible and I can enjoy the memories of the delicious wines from my youth as I drink the plonk. I thoroughly enjoy watching your videos that echo my fond memories of the flavors and tasting experiences of those bygone days when I could more appreciate them. I hope your channel thrives for as long as you desire to continue it. Thanks.
My best wines were probably a Pera Manca 2013 and Cobos Malbec Machiori 2012. No idea about the score those wines received, but I really enjoyed them.
I’d be keen to see a video about your 100 points wines which didn’t get the 100 points by the critics. Also, maybe something around your best rated wines below $100 US.
Btw, I really like your videos, congratulations 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
my favourite white so far is the baron de ley tres vinas 2017 and just last thursday we had a dinner and wine tasing with portugese wines from Torre de frade.
Their 2008 grande reserva was great (in my humble opinion).
so that would be my favourite red right now :)
great video btw
Almaviva 2005 was one I really can remember thinking, Wow 👍🍷
loved it (as always). an idea for a future video - have 3 wines that are outstanding (95 to 100 by RP) but with a small different in mark and try to rank them blind.
So inspiring and knows your story. Million thanks you...
Thanks for watching!
The only wine that I ever rated 100 points was a 1982 Haut Brion tasted in 2018. Two years later I opened another bottle and it was maybe 94 points. Both bottles were bought at release in 1986 and in perfect conditions. As the old saying goes there are no great wines, only great bottles.
Question: Does this indicate a flaw or problem? Is that actually normal for bottles of the same wine to age so differently? I wouldn't expect two years to make such a difference.
@@d_dave7200 Bottles variation is normal especially for older wine. Sometimes two bottles opened at the same time would show different states of development.
Enjoyed the session. The Vivino rating was 4.6, more in line with yours. I don’t recall the specific name of the vineyard, but Amarone, as a rule, been my most favorite wine, that gives me the best combination of balance, including price in the equation.
I loved this explanation of the points system. I do have a question if you ever think to review your ratings based of retrying vintages after they have aged in bottles?
Excellent educational video! It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on Canadian wine particularly from the Okanagan Valley and Oosoyoos
Canadians make wine?? lol i thought only maple syrup
If you keep consistent uploads you will grow faster and faster for sure. The content is of quality and the editing and video is great. People will come if you keep putting out this level. Could you do a tasting of a range of wines from a single general area? Like tasting 5 wines from Rhone valley, Puglia or Sicily while explaining what different areas within that region can offer to a whine? I feel like this would help me learn to taste nuanced difference myself, and not just the difference pinot noir vs cab for example. And it would maybe help those of us with a bit more of a budget to find wines with good value if the areas are a bit underappreciated.
Thanks again Konstantin. Personally I take many points based reviews with a pinch of salt and focus mire on critics whose taste is near to my own. The only time I maybe think something is a sure thing is if the two most prominent critics agree on a wine. There is one mind that I will never forget; it was a 1966 Volnay which I had the privilege of drinking in 1999. It just blew me away. Sadly I don’t remember the grower or the vineyard.
I thought the tetra pak might pull off the upset... LOL
Really expensive wines are mostly out of my budget range (though I did put a 2017 of the Spotswoode in my wish list, thanks to this video), and being a music collector also means I have to weigh one interest against the other, so I very rarely buy wines over around 28 Euros (I have three in my cellar that broke the 30 Euro mark. Yet to try them, though). With that in mind, the best wine I've probably had is a Cascina Castlet Passum Barbera d'Asti Superiore 2016, which sells for around 28.50 in Norway. I find it exceptional. Rich, balanced, velvety tannins. Has become my "house wine" in the sense that I keep a bottle around for special occasions.
I've had a few Amarones and Barolos that were 100 points for me, but my best one was a Biondi-Santi Brunello di Montalcino 2007 that I drank in 2014, most balanced wine I've experienced. Thanks for the content, I hope you get to 100K subs soon, well deserved!
Thank you!
Hi Konstantin, really enjoy the content. Would like to see you review some more Australian wines, depending on availability of course. It would be great to see you cover the more affordable under $100 bottles like Penfolds Bin series, like Bin 28 Shiraz and Bin 389 Cab Shiraz. Maybe even go all out and review a Grange!
Also I recently had an amazing Organic Sangiovese from McLaren Vale. Farm Hand One of A Kind 2019, amazing wine for around $20 aud. Would highly recommend if you can get your hands on some!
Best wine I ever tasted was a Chateau d'Yquem from I believe 1986. Not one of the absolute top years but boy o boy, what a fantastic wine!
That is a difficult question. But, one of my all time favourites is tignanello. I love that wine
Yup - my cellar feels "empty " if there's not one aging to perfection!
@@barbarabird3827 Sadly I am not in a position to store wines for that long, nor purchase them to keep. I tend to drink most wines within 2 years (stored in the living room, out of the sun, no other option) and the more expensive wines such as tignanello, I buy when I feel like drinking one haha
I like the way Mr. Baum pronounces estimation of wines he evaluates. Being just a bit restrained adds up to the credibility of the opinion.
Keep on presenting your valuations the way you do and you have got an ardent devotee in me.
Thank you a lot. Best regards from Poland.
Thank you!
@@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine Not at all. The pleasure is mine!
My fav was a 1988 Gaja Barbaresco. I have had other wines rated higher however, but there's something magical about the Gaja experience.
I'm not even convinced that Luca Maroni is a real person. It might be just a rating bot. Here is how you can identify a typical Luca Maroni 98/99 wine
- Heavy Bottle
- Over ripe and jammy.
- Low acidity and/or tannins
- Oak (vanilla) bomb
I think he exists, do you ever go to a circus? He‘s the guy with the red nose.
I like the chalanges you take on in your videos, maybe next time bring a concord to the workshop? that would be hilarious! cheers and greetings from Frankfurt!
May I ask, what characteristics show/enable a wine to age for an extended period?
Great video
Konstantin, we need a video on the Alsace region, we simply do...
Mr. Baum -- I absolutely love your programming! Thank you for all your efforts!
By any chance have you had the 1966 Mouton Rothschild recently as it used to be a favorite of mine but I haven't had any in about thirty years now.
No, I haven't had it.
Schloss Johannisberg Riesling 'Grünlack' Spätlese. It blew me away with it's lightning acidity that countered the sweetness so impressively, together with an explosion of a thousand fruits in all facets in the mouth, so different even to other Spätlese I had to date. For me it was extremenly complex with a long lingering, delicious finish. It was not a 100 point Parker wine but a 100 point Suckling wine I believe.
I guess it is a 1995 château d'Yquem. I looked it up and it had 95 Parker points. But more important than the score was the occasion and the company, it was a 100 points night in my book. However these scores do help picking out a wine to buy. Thank you for this video, the system of scoring and your explanation is really interesting.
Best red:
Domaine Trapet; Chapelle-Chambertin 2009. Superbe wine, polish, delicate with some serious structure and power.
Best White:
Domaine Marcel Deiss; Altenberg de Bregheim 2007. Perfect balance between the sweetness and the acidity, like riding the perfect wave.
Hahaha, great interesting video. As a Sommelier, I take usually the points given by the "expert" carefully. I usually think that points are made for people that don't have an opinion.... therefore I tend to do not trust them in full!
The best wine I ever tasted was a Grand Cru Chablis--I think a Les Clos--from the mid 70s. I don't recall the exact vintage. It had the excellent balance and nose that you expect of any great wine, but what made it truly exceptional was its complexity. Its many flavors were layer upon layer. A truly great wine.
Thanks for sharing!
I'm glad you explained the score system for wines. I often see the Robert Parker-scored wines in Costco and am tempted. What do you plan to eat with the Spottswoode? Thanks. Tony
A Rip Eye grilled over wood would be a great match.
I'm still a real newbie when it comes to wine. I'd consider myself a connoisseur when it comes to beer. I've got a long way to go before I could say I'm an expert on wine. With that qualification, the best wine I've had so far -- without a doubt -- is the 2021 Missing Spire Riesling from Left Foot Charley in Traverse City, Michigan. That's right, MICHIGAN. Tom Stevenson said that Brian Ulbrich, winemaker for left Foot Charley, is a white-wine genius. This, my first taste of his work, didn't disappoint after that high recommendation. I will be trying some more of Mr Ulbrich's work.
A 1976 Chateau Y quem is my most memorable wine experience over 30 years ago it was truly amazing in the depth and complexity of flavours. Too expensive for me now.
Don't know if it is the best wine ever but i had my first "wow" moment with a 2010 Icario Vitaroccia Vino Nobile Di Montepulciano. So soft, gentle and i could taste the minerals. After asking they told me that these grapes grow on a specific hillside and the roots had to go through limestone to find water.
The best wine I ever had was a Vega Sicilia Unico 2006, I think it scored 98 Parker Points.
A friend bought it and we were around 6 people drinking it, so I only had one glass.
Afterwards we had a bottle of a wine that would probably score 88-90 points, so a very nice wine too, but the difference was mind boggling.
My experience with expensive wines being limited to a number of 2nd growth Bordeaux and some higher end but not top Burgundies and some 2nd tier California and Washington State wines. My most memorable tasting of red wine was a bottle of Ridge Zinfandel (don't remember the vintage - mid 80's I believe?) This wine exploded on my palate with such intense mineral flavors that it literally made me jump out of my chair.
£260 in UK!!!! Let me know where in America you can get under $200 and I order few boxes..
Great video!
You have to search for it. I bought it at Weinhalle in Germany.
@@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine thanks...I am going to look for. Keep the great work.
Nice video…. Your sessions are very educational! I think scores can help, if you’re an everyday consumer or a wine geek, but they have different purposes. The everyday consumer can use a score to help them find something they can “trust” while the geek, if they find a professional who has a similar palate to theirs, can help them move into new varieties and varietals. In either case, I’ve had some stunning wines. A couple that stick out in my mind, 97 dead arm Shiraz from d’arenberg, 67 Yquem, 2010 Lopez De Heredia Vina Tondia Rose, 92 Peter Lauer Riesling Sekt, 90 Clos Sainte Hune, 2019 Scacciadiavoli Spumante Rose, 59 Solaria primitivo, 2017 Ben Rye Passito di Pantelleria, 2015 Corton-Charlemange Gran Cru. Not all “100” pointers, but each were memorable.
1997 sassicaia in a small village in the Italian alps together with steak fionrentina in 2016. The restaurant sold it below retail value for the new releases., so a double steal. 1982 pichon lalande got me into wine collection - and is the producer I lay down the most of.
I like your program and your honesty. Keep on the good work.
What wine merit your 100% score?
I should do a video on that ...
08:02 I got curious and would like to suggest ideas for videos:
I would be very interested in a video about wine aging. How can I decide on how long a wine can (or even has to) rest longer in order to find the right timing to drink it?
How can we differentiate between wines that should be opened "immediately" and wines that are made to mature in the bottle?
And in addition: How to choose wines to put into your cellar to let them age?
Danke und liebe Grüße aus dem Rheinland
Have not had many expensive wines, but had a glass of Yarra Yerring Dry Red No.1 2011 two years ago and the nose was enough for me. I've never smelled anything like it in a wine before, it was amazing. In fact the mouth feel and the taste was slightly disappointing afterwards, will never forget that experience. Now I have a benchmark for what a great wine should smell like at least. Love your show, wine critics lose their objectivity as soon as they become a commercial enterprise e.g. James Halliday (Australia - take off 3 - 4 points for his ratings if you want the realistic score). Much prefer objectivity of MW's as they are not rock starts but wine lovers.
Kracher nr 6 (TBA). I adore this wine, and it is still reasonably priced.
My favourites... Chateau Petrus followed by Chateau Cheval Blanc
thanks for the content - i dont want to watch it but watch nevertheless. to your question - best wine in my life was quinta do mouro golden label 2011 portugal, 70 euro-ish. would love to learn your views. kind regards
The best wine would be Port wine, Krohn Colheita 1978. Just blissful. The best red wine is more difficult, but perhaps La Collina di Dioniso Roberto Sarotto Barolo Riserva 2006. A wine one could consume only smelling it for hours. Not a 100 point wine, but close.
I would love to see you taste Paolo Bea Montefalco Sagrantino Pagliaro. One of the world's best but not a lot of recorded tastings of this wine.
Nice!
Really useful - but we (the wine-tasting ankle-biters) need some help. I would love it if you deconstructed terms like ‘balanced’ ‘vibrant’ ‘ and ‘fresh’ - especially with a wine we could buy and taste along with your video. Keep up the good work.
Do you think one of the problems with wine ratings is that it has biases of the taster personal preferences of certain styles? Ie. If Parker has a preference for big Napa cabs.
Wonder if it’s best to rate only based on quality (balance, complexity, length etc) no matter the wine making style. And then describe the style separately
My best wine I ever tasted was a 2000 Chateau Canon La Gaffeliere grand cru classé. I drank it this year and it was just sooo good. I payed 120euro’s for it, but I absolutely loved it.
The most special was the Petrus, vintage 1982. I'll remeber to the end of my life.
And two very good hungarian product were Bock Capella cuvée '03 and an epic blaufrankisch Gere Minden 50 évben '14 which is contains botrytised berries.
And im just on the beggining of wine world. 👀😁
Best wine? Really hard question. Probably the most enjoyable was the Taylor's 40 year Tawny Port on my 40th birthday. It's a magical wine and well worth the price tag.
One of my favourites ever is also a Tawny but a 30yr one. Even more so than the 40 which I tasted before I bought the 30. It was a Vasques de Carvalho.
@@AShiga ill need to add that to my list. Cheers!
My best rated wines.... as a wine noob it's so hard to decide but I would say 2018er Franz Haas Moscato Rosa Schweizer aus Alto Adige. A crowd pleaser but could satisfy plenty of enthusiasts! BTW, so informative is this video as always and vielen dank!! cheers!!!
It’s hard to pick just one favorite, but Among my “many” favorites is Bacio Divino - (artful) vintage 2009!
Best wines I have tried:
Red: Armand Rousseau Charmes Chambertin 2009
White: Pierre-Yves Colin-Morey Meursault Premier cru Les Perrières 2017
Fortified: Gonzalez-Byass Cuatro Palmas.
Honorable mentions: Clos Apalta 2015, Mouton Rothschild 1980.
really enjoyed this video> it so happens I am currently trying to decide which vintage of Spottswoode to purchase, 2014 or 2017. Both the same price although everything I have read points to 2014 being one of the better years along with 2013 in the last 20 years or so. Thoughts or suggestions? Keep up the great work!
Pick the aged one!
@@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine I did just that, bought two.
Love your videos, please feature some South African wines, you promised
The wines of my life: cheval blanc 1985 and cote rotie la turque guigal 2005 (still young)
Hmmm, the best wine I have ever tasted? That’s not something I really keep track of, but I remember drinking a Quintarelli Amarone della Valpolicella that, at the moment I was drinking it, seemed to offer everything I could ask for in a wine. I enjoyed every drop! Not being a wine professional I do not have to worry about being consistent. I have no doubt drunk “better” wines, but that bottle really stood out.
My fav. wine is a white one, it’s the Hospices de Bourgogne Rully. Why ? Because I think it’s the best value for money. At under €20 it’s a great, complex, white wine, that can actually be stored for many years ! I’ve had many ‘better’ wines that are way more expensive… this one keeps surprizing me.
We also need one on Arbois....
Good wine can be put into cheaper and more environmentally friendly packaging like boxes, without sacrificing initial quality, if not aging potential which is less common
The best wine experience was when I got a Château Haut-Laroque 2010 served by your classmate and MW Janek Schumann. The wine was perfectly prepared to drink and to enjoy, perfect temperature and well-aerated.
Another awesome wine experience was when I was able to drink a Cos d’Estournel 2000 this year.
Two great wines. Say hi to Janek!
Hi Konstantin, Gary and Malka here, Somms in Peru, we often watch your videos and love them, so great job. We were wondering if you could do a tasting of an important grape down here, Pais (Chile), Negra Criolla (Peru), Criolla Chica (Argentina). Can you get hold of wines made from this grape in Germany to compare countries? Keep up the great work...
Thank you!
Vina Cobos Marchiori vineyard 2010 malbec- stunning 100 points for sure. wish i had bought more
Best wine I ever tasted? I can't tell....what's best anyway? Most fond memory: Les Forts de Latour 1971 (drank in 1985), because this was my eyeopener wine....first "wow!".
Do you have a video of your picks for 100 point wines.