The Bo Nix Tape is an Enigma
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Bo Nix fan, but this perfectly outlines every question mark I've seen. As always elite coverage and analysis!
This is the first video I’ve seen from this guy. I’m super impressed with this unbiased & obviously competent analysis. Good work
@ThatsGoodSports perna needs to watch this
He has. Top of his "Blop 10" list.
payton couldn't get a nearly 40 year old man to break bad habits but he's made a career on those bad habits. Nix nearly has a clean slate for payton to work with.
I think Nix has played more than Russ.
Russ was awful, painful to watch. Was NOT Sean’s offense per Drew Brees.
He’s not even starting.
@@Bambino_60 lol good luck with that prediction, he's starting and if the most Pro-ready QB doesn't start week 1 then you should be worried
@@GelatoBoiiWell, to be fair, you build an offense around the QB and their abilities. Mostly. You do not try to fit a QB into one. It rarely works. Unless, you have a Manning or Rodgers on your team.
I think Bo is the steal of the draft. Everyone thinks the Broncos reached. I don’t one bit. I’ll take an accurate, smart experienced qb over any one of those other guys. Moving the chains is what’s important. Not throwing deep balls. And in all honesty, Bo is known as a great teammate and has leadership qualities which matter more than any athletic measurable imo.
I dont know how to explain it but something about watching him just screams NFL quarterback to me. I think he'll translate to the pro game really well, potentially great pick at 12
Probably the anticipation - that usually translates very well
Fully agree, I said the same thing in about two paragraphs. I'd honestly put him at the top in best chance for success of all other qb's drafted. Only thing that would knock him off top spot is the equity in upside from higher potential of Williams and Penix. But yeah, most likely to make 3-5 pro bowls or something, he's top of list for me.
I mean the Broncos drafted his favorite weapon Troy Franklin in the 4th round and Sean Payton is a system based, offense minded coach. I hope everything meshes together as well as it does on paper
Even if we take into consideration the other QBs Payton tried to get the most out of post Drew Brees (Bridgewater, etc.) much of the success came to the caliber of talent around the QB. Nix is going to a great OL situation to a murky one. The Broncos receiver group has depth but also not amazing. At the same time I don't think Payton was going into the 2024 training camp with Sitdham/Wilson as his QBs.
Well you know I love Troy Franklin - ruclips.net/video/A9yviqHUwJU/видео.htmlsi=OqxSLOpVuRjorzh_
I thought he shoudv'e gone late first early second - and having a good receiver you're already familiar with definitely good for development
@@t4d0W tbh the oline wasnt even that bad, Wilson just made them look bad on many occasions
@@t4d0W denver Oline was pretty decent last year. Russ RAN into every sack. He made them look like fucking ass
O line was top 10 if I’m not mistaken.
Another eye-opener. There is so much more to look at and understand, while enjoying a game, after another of your vids. Big thank you.
This was a pleasure to watch. I have not seen better analysis of Bo Nix, this perfect outlines everything he does well and some of the things he struggles with. Thank you for your dedication. GBBN!
Great analysis once again. Lots of ESPN talking heads were claiming he was a dink and dunk passer but last I checked he was 3rd in yards per completion. Will be fun to see how he works out!
Reminds me a lot of brock Purdy great anticipation and going through progressions can extend plays and has a strong enough arm
Me too but More moible
He's a Brock that can Run
Exactly what I've always thought. Brock wasn't considered much before Shanahan. The right coaching and playmaking will make the best of QB's talent to make a difference.
He's a bigger, stronger, and faster version of Purdy. Better arm too.
@@zachary2999 That is because Brock is essentially the kind of simple QB that Shanahan can work with. Bad teams need more out of their QB to make up for being shaky in other spots on the offense. But with the Niners offense and weapons, if Brock can read the field as fast as Jimmy G did to take the easy middle field passes then that is good. But Brock is also aggressive going downfield and is willing to use his legs so that is a mega plus working in that offense.
As a Broncos fan thank you for this vid…I’m tired of seeing film breakdown vids that show 99% good things and 1% bad and gives fans of the franchise false hope they have a savior on their hands…I appreciate you for pointing out the things that can hold Bo back at the next level, while also praising him for what he does well.
You can do that with every NFL QB and especially every QB prospect.
I don’t know if Bo will be any good, but I do know “Bo Nix” is a franchise QB name if ever I’ve heard one
Great vid brother. Objective and informative analysis🤙🏼
the thing i love the most about Bo is his ability to not be sacked. he had something like 5 sacks in 500 dropbacks or something in his last year. That is so telling for a prospect it shows he can:
1) read defenses
2) set/understand protections
3) quick release
4) get the ball to his playmakers
5) injury avoidance
6) build trust with coaches and teammates
7) not giving away field position/downs
all of those traits are transferable to the NFL.
You better be cooking more cb vids they're way too good brodie 🙏🏾🔥
Best timing and best accuracy in this class. Broncos got a steal imo.
YUP
I haven't even watched yet but the title/thumbnail is masterfully done.
After watching every game at Oregon and most of his tape at Auburn...there is no enigma imo...the "enigma" part is bias from the media creeping into our evaluations...the film speaks for itself. Bo has a chance to be a GREAT quarterback
The funny thing is, you almost had us until the last part. You sir, are the one showing bias, not the very fair criticism of nix in this video.
@@Gabbagool345 Nah dawg...let me spell it out for you...the media tells us his arm is weak (film says otherwise), the media says he doesn't throw down field (the film says otherwise), the media says he doesn't get off his first read (the film says otherwise). Me saying he has a chance to be great is my analysis, not bias...I'm believing what my eyes are telling me. And you bro...wtf are yappin about 😂
@@Gabbagool345got your ah sit right down😂😂
Good analysis. With the comparison the 1983 QB draft with this years, it will be interesting to see which ones will be future HOFers, multi-year starters, and dudes. Even after this, NFL scouts can't guarantee that a future QB is a sure thing.
Cool video. I do wonder why people never look at Bo's Auburn tape. It's like watching a different player, but goes to show his ability to learn and adapt, which is big for a young QB
I'm not allowed to show SEC tape on this channel
@ThinkingFootball that's wild. Thanks for the insight and solid breakdown 👍
Nix will be the best QB out of this draft. Calling it now
thanks for posting this
I think Bo has the IQ, can read the defense and anticipate well.. Time will tell how he can be transformed at the NFL level.
Watching this man in auburn I never thought he would be here today. Shows how the portal is also a good thing for the game. It needs to be reworked but It gets too much hate sometimes. For every kid that bounces around looking for playing time you find a player completely flip the narrative of their career and go pro.
It also shows Bo coming back from adversity. He knew he didn't live up to the caliber of QB he thought he could be at Auburn. Fresh start at oregon and played elite football for 2 years.
I love your film breakdowns. Not only are your videos well produced, the level of insight and balanced judgment you provide is simply refreshing. Well done, sir.
Love your videos! as a giants fan, I can speak for all of us when I say we would love for you to do a breakdown of Daniel Jones and whether he can finally be the guy if we can get the line and weapons right this year
The answer is no
@@ThinkingFootball No he can't be the guy or no to the video? either way, sadface
@@RobZuban He aint the dude, he doesn't anticipate - and the clocks too slow
Great review. This is why I believe sitting him will only benefit his game play. I do think he has some of the true qualities Payton designs his type of offense around and the two will be succesful in the years to come however I'm not expecting it to be great as soon as he steps on the field. A little time will go a long way with Bo.
Are y’all gonna drop a video on Quinyon mitchell ??
I think the criticism is fair. There were a number of multi read plays (I wouldn't say it was zero as you said). He does tend to take the first read if it is open though and it usually was open. I see his deep ball as needing work, but it isn't terrible. I think one of the issues he has with the deep ball is he usually prefers to touch pass where he needs to bullet more often. Being accurate on a touch pass is pretty difficult as the ball is just in the air for so long while the receiver is covering ground. Do you agree?
Hate Payton, but I'm excited to see what he does in their offense. He's got some really great physical attributes..... and that fast release is INSANE.
Especially with nfl defenses still using the 2 high safety's Nix can leave throwing short to medium throws all the way down the field, but with the broncos offense and heavy run game it'll open up the deep shots which I feel he is underrated in that aspect of the game.
I like the assessment and the video is quality content. I have a different perspective though on his “anticipation”. For example, Nix doesn’t anticipate the wr making the cut; Nix reads the defense and “anticipates” the hole in the zone and throws it to a “spot”. The wr from OU reads and anticipates defense the same as Nix. They trust and know each other.
I think Payton is out to let ppl find out what f’kn around with him is all about. Brees to Thomas all day long building a defense out to kill with his guys. Payton’s ppl buy in and he wins. He is a killer. He has a real chance to kill with Nix.
Good breakdown. I personally believe Nix has the tools to be a franchise QB, and he is going to prove alot of doubters wrong. He has the "it" that alot of scouts and analysts miss but that every great QB has. The vast majority of throws in the NFL are short to intermediate. And contrary to popular belief, Nix can throw the deep ball.
The NFL is moving to using way more motion and it wouldn’t surprise me if Oregon’s HC (pretty sure he ran the offense) was in the NFL soon
Dan Lanning is a defensive coach. The OC in Oregon is a man named Will Stein. He's also the QB coach. He should be a name to watch, considering the work he did with Bo.
Exciting
I don't know a lot about Daniels, Maye, or even Williams so much, but initial impressions were not particularly impressed by Daniels. Caleb obviously has a lot of ugly qualities similar to Baker and Wilson; not staying on schedule and bailing too early, hard habits to break.... few can outrun 4.5 ends even late into their 20's... at pro level so he's going to have to step up A LOT more in the future. Maye again, I don't know enough to have an opinion. Anyway, both Penix and Nix were just really impressive and sharp in both meetings.
If Washington had played even anywhere close to how they did against Oregon in the national championship I think they would have won comfortably; it wasn't just the D causing the issues, Penix was just OFF and missing wide open guys he hits at 85% plus. Anyway yeah Nix, odds are against any given qb succeeding, but I think Nix has a very good chance to be good. Processing form and release all seem very good, this is exactly what Broncos needed, unless the league has truly neutralized Paytons quick attack offense, I find it hard to imagine NIx not succeeding. ***Of all the qb's, and again no knowledge on Maye, I actually think I'd put Nix highest on the list in likelihood of success, *** Williams and Penix maybe matching for highest ceilings.
Excellent presentation. And, the ability to read the defense pre-snap reduces the need to go through progressions. True?
If the QB reads well, he knows before the snap what's his best option is. Yes?
And sometimes the defense defeats the play. Then, you want the QB to move out of the pocket, take another look at a broken-play opportunity or tuck and run. Right?
Isnt Nix doing all the above better than all the other QBs drafted ahead of him?
The ability to need to read post snap is greatly reduced by the type of plays called. If you do not call plays that require your qb to full field scan and actually go through progressions, I cannot grade that. The Ducks did this incredibly rarely.
Improv and extension do not count as progressions to me as they take place outside the structure of the play - in the NFL, progressions mean winning from the pocket.
In terms of behind the line improvising, Nix would be 3rd in this draft, not number 1.
Bo Nix is gonna wind up being the 2nd best QB of the class as a rookie after Caleb Williams. He has NFL traits and he's going into a perfect scheme for his strengths. I don't have that many questions about Bo Nix honestly, he's a prototypical west coast offense QB in an era where the descendants of the Bill Walsh tree west coast scheme are dominating football. When he followed the script at Oregon he was excellent, and when he improvised and deviated from the script, he was also excellent.
Lol.
Half of first round QB's are out of the leauge in 5 years, some never even play a game. You wont really know for a year or two.
@@E.J.CrunkletonThat's right, what did Mahomes go number 10 overall? But he's just making a prediction, which really is all the GM did also. At best, the draft is an informed guess
You never know how it will turn out..plus he's in a division with mahomes and Herbert sounds difficult
@@sethtenrecPatrick Mahommes was an incredibly talented QB on a bad college team who constantly played opponents above the talent level of his teammates.
Bo Nix is an average QB who played a very easy schedule and whose team could just out talent every defense they played.
Bo Nix is a lot closer to Zach Wilson than he is to Mahommes
@@nicholaskling2425 they are both god awful irrelevant comparisons, as far apart as could get for comparisons.
I'm new to scouting players, this is the first year I tried to look through 200+ players before the draft. That said, my assessment of Nix that wasn't touched on here was that he can have some great accuracy and ball placement on the run but can really whiff in the pocket. To me, that shows that he has some high level ability, but it would be ideal if he was drafted into a Penix type situation where he could rebuild his footwork and, as you said, break his bad habits. He really has the tools to be a great QB in my opinion (although the lack of pocket presence truly worries me), but he's going to a situation where he has to start right away. To me, that adds up to another high ceiling player who will likely bust because they weren't developed properly.
I think he's very NFL ready, especially that offense. Not saying your wrong, but have never noticed poor foot-work from him remotely, I guess I'll keep an eye out. The 'not having enough experience going through progressions" I guess is related argument for not being ready, but not sure there's a good solution there besides live reps.
Thumbnail has me cackling
My opinion on Bo Nix has arrived.
I think he’ll b better than jj. SP will turn him into an rpo monster.
JJ has KOC and a stronger arm with more athleticism in a better situation. Broncos not set up for a young qb
Jj in a better situation but I think Bo can better at they peak
@@natesath5270 The game of quarterbacking is not measured by who can jump the highest and run the furthest
Nah he's not gonna be better than JJ. He has no weapons and JJ has better coaching
To be fair JJ is also sitting out for at least a year (and a half) or so. Payton is throwing Nix to the fire regardless of who he has on the Broncos roster on offense.
I now have my opinion of bo nix lmao, hopefully he’ll be decent for us
He reminds me of Tua in terms of his anticipation
Did he run a lot of RPO's in Auburn?
Bo fits perfectly in Seans offense which relys on quick decision and anticipation
It's a great match
Problem is he's going to Sean in Denver NOT N.O. The last three games with QB Stinham (sp?) The Broncos ran a lot of 4-5 receiver air-raid plays with sprinkles of Payton's system mixed in. I know the Broncos can not help themselves, and will want to see a lot of "take the top off the defense" (Shurmur ball) which their offense is in noway capable of running.
@denverbroncosmilehighview9897 just comes down Bo and how comfortable he is. I'm sure if he can show that he can play in a more aggressive system then they will cater to those strengths
I think the overwhelming amount of positive plays and completion percentage ends up putting Bo Nix into a favorable position in the NFL. He has one of the best creative coaching minds that he can learn from and will show that he is a consistent quarterback at the pro level. I think his first season will be a strange and questionable one. He will most likely throw more interceptions than he ever did in college but he will have to show resiliency throughout his career.
I don’t care what any if the pro analyst say. I’m not an Oregon fan(Wildcat Az) but they drafted the best QB in that draft.
I think he can be like brock prudy just depends on his processing..he wont be good until late season
Love the analysis but Kurt Warner came out and said he was the only one after watching film who offensive scheme translated to the NFL.
Not my words, it's his. I gotta go with the HOF QB on this one
If he thinks running 20 RPOs a game and 1 read and run deep shots translates - he's either not watched enough NFL recently, or not watched enough Bo Nix tape.
I value Kurts opinion, but man, that one just aint it.
@ThinkingFootball I respect everyone's opinion, too. I wish I could find the link to the clip, he went into great detail of why. If I remember correctly, outside the RPOs, some of the route concepts and indicators of coverage in the offense he ran at Oregon translated. Imma work on the finding the link. Again, killer work my guy.
That's super interesting and definitely would love to see that - they still don't seem to draw up plays for him to read the full field from what I could see, and I watched all of 23
I think the quick game, both accuracy and reading both very much translate, plus the anticipation is great - I just don't know how to grade someone's harder NFL reads and progressions if they aren't asked to do it
@@ThinkingFootballso the ravens offense isn’t an offensive scheme because you pretty much just described that😂 crazy you think a nfl qb don’t know what he’s talking about
The ravens offense is infinitely more complex than the Oregon Offense and required progressions and down field reads consistently, their run game was also substantially more complex
Practitioners aren't always the best at explaining their own craft - remember we had multiple former pros claiming Zach Wilson was the next big thing or Bryce was better than Stroud, and they were all wrong - if either Chase or Kurt wants to watch every game of his 23 season with me and discuss it I'm more than happy to have them on the channel to discuss what they think I missed
Never know until they go. How many negative reviews did we here about Justin Herbert? Lol.
It’s hard to ever analyze an Oregon QB because the system is so QB friendly. Bo while good on the run, does escape the pocket too fast and also gets away with bad throws when throwing across his body. He also does lack the ability right now to see pressure and throws picks because he panics. I think he has a good but not elite arm which is well good enough for the NFL in a west coast system like what he will be in for the broncos. After watching Purdy, you do not need a good arm or traits to be successful if everything around you is working, you just need to have the skill to anticipate where your player will be open and be able to go off script when needed. Bo at least has an NFL arm and has a higher ceiling so we will see. He also has intermediate accuracy issues which you also saw from Herbert in Oregon.
His progression abilities mid play are impossible to evalute and his weaknesses are there....... his ability to read pre snap and throw with anticipation tho, that seems to be one of the biggest issues young QB's have to overcome. So as a coach like Peyton whos offense is built on anticipation throws he might be in the perfect fit.... can't say the same if he went elsewhere....... that's why Wilson struggled, hed hold the ball, or scramble and try to make big plays too often.
Bo was even better than Mariota was at Oregon--and that's really sayin' somethin"
This Bo does not know didley poo
for me he was the third best QB in the draft for readiness. It’s Purdy with upside? I’ll take it. Wasn’t worth the 1st round? I don’t care
Bo Nix was good enough to go in the top 10. Don’t get it twisted JJ still isn’t a top 10 worthy pick. Yea you draft on potential but majority of those picks are really damn good in college. Jj wasn’t insane and even in 2022 he wouldn’t beat out Kenny
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I feel like the Broncos for their own sake just did not feel comfortable not picking Nix after Penix was picked. I feel like Nix will be way more coachable than Wilson but it will definitely come to hiding Nix’s flaws more than anything.
I say all the time on this channel how much I prefer rookie QBs to sit, but man, if the broncos are starting Zach Wilson in week 1, something went horribly wrong.
@@ThinkingFootball At least in this case, Nix is the most experienced QB in college football history lol
Drew Brees made Sean Payton. Not the other way around.
Don’t know how you can claim he wasn’t in a pro style offense when guys like Kurt Warner and Chase Daniels said those things. I feel like there’s a lot of key components you missed. Bo was still high in air yards per attempt and his best weapon was a day 3 pick, He has shown that his greatest attributes are russels weaknesses, Russ was a play extender and struggled with reading defenses and throwing on time, that is the opposite of what Payton wants, plus his Oline is ranked top 10 and was top 10 in pass block win rate so the offense should be much more effective with the perfect qb in this draft going to the perfect system for him. No other rookie qb fits a scheme more this year than Bo and it’s not close.
Because running 15-20 RPOs and screens a game is not a pro style offense
The team that ran the most RPOs a game last season in the NFL was the Eagles and that was at less than 6 a game (and they were a boring stagnant offense)
I think he's a great fit for Sean Payton, and think he's got a great chance to succeed - I just can't evaluate what's not there
Was the scheme he ran at Auburn more akin to a pro scheme, and if so, how did he seem to handle it? From what I remember, he was very hot and cold. Also, his Auburn tape may be a better example of how he looks behind a suspect line. I seem to recall a few games getting ugly for him.
He’s nowhere near the Quarterback he was at Auburn and Oregon’s scheme was more like what he’s going to run obviously but…literally completely changed, and transferred his good attributes from Auburn over. I dont think it’s fair to compare Auburn Bo Nix to Broncos Bo Nix. Broncos had an overhated O-line because Wilson pranced into so many sacks and pressure…and the line also improved this offseason.
seems like teams are just willing to burn a top 10 pick on any qb with momentum from the ncaa. i don't think nix can outlast nfl defenses past the first read, but we'll see
Good thing Nix wasn’t drafted in the top 10 then I guess
Really just opening your mouth to open your mouth huh?
There is some people who absolutely hate him and I don't get it. Maybe he won't be great but being completely sure he will bust no matter what, is closed minded.
The only people who do not like Bo are those who are caught up on his Auburn time . Auburn runs a dumb offense. Mix is fine. he will be a hard QB to deal with in the NFL because he can run faster than most WRs. So his legs will help him get past the learning curve. He could very easy become the best QB of the 2024 class because Caleb Williams sure as hell is not!
Oregon qbs scare me because of the scheme.
Honestly watching this, I think he will end up as a Joe Flacco who can evade the pocket, ending up in the position Jared Goff is in where we question if he is truly elite, even with great numbers, for the rest of his career
Outside of the other rookie QBs who won't be starting this season, it will be interesting to see how Caleb, Jayden and Bo Nix handle NFL blitzes and pressures. Especially since many DCs are finding some success throwing sim pressure blitz looks at young QBs.
First off, his name is Caleb. 2nd off, Caleb’s cockiness (in the NFL draft if you watched it) I’m not a fan of. He’s kinda a showboater that thinks he’s all that. He’s shown no humility or humbleness. At least to the cameras. The way he acts is just kind of a red flag to me. The biggest red flag really.
And Caleb threw 7 interceptions in a row today or yesterday in practice and was benched for the day.
Bo has a lot of experience and snaps so he will skip over some rookie mistakes and tendencies. He’s not the most talented but very dependable.
His mistakes were so bad last season that he threw 3 picks… the whole year.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but 1 of those 3 was off his receivers hands, and another the defensive player was out of bounds on the catch, so only 1 "real" interception
@@MrGotenz21one was off his receivers hands and the other bounced off his receivers chest, he really did only have 1 true int where he threw it to the d and made a bad throw
@ryanheidt102 yeah it was very underground, 1 true interception
Sean Payton better sit him for the year than he has a for sure Brees 2.0
Drop a Jayden Daniels vid 😭
It's on Patreon, No SEC on yt
I don’t see nix making it in the NFL but maybe I’m wrong.
You're not. If he dont have a deep ball anticipation wont matter. The NFL passing windows are too tight, if you cant get safetys and CB's to respect deep threats, they will sit in cover 1 or 2 and collapse on underneath routes.
@@E.J.Crunkleton Reminds me sorta of the Mac Jones conundrum in 2023. Granted there were other bad things going for the Pats offense (receivers that can't separate, injured O-line) but Mac faced the most man coverage out of any QB in that season. Defenses were daring Mac to get deep shots through and if he couldn't, they just kept the Pats offense stalled.
Why.,?
@@E.J.Crunkletonyet multiple former nfl qbs have disagreed😂
bra quit putting all the good reviews on patreon man damn
Id post all of them to youtube if I was allowed, sadly no SEC content allowed on youtube. explanation here - ruclips.net/video/sVoPqrp28No/видео.html
Das gibt Nix
I have no connection to nix. I'm a skinz fan and only watch college ball for evaluation reasons.... I think he may BECOME the best QB of this draft.
I've been bringing up these exact points for the last 3 months, but the chorus of group think praise from fans & media pundits have been used to drown me out every time I do so. Frankly I am surprised Payton drafted Nix. In 2006 he turned down the opportunity to draft a top 1st round QB prospect despite having his choice of three who were top ten rated. Payton is not famous for liking rookie QBs. Brees, whom he had signed before the 2006 draft, was only 3 months removed from a major shoulder injury & failed is physical in Miami. He was also coming off a down year, & had only one good one on his 5 year resume. Nobody but Sean offered him a contract & Brees himself later admitted he thought his career might be over.
I trust Payton implicitly when it comes to knowing quarterbacks for his offense, but I can't ignore the fact that Nix played 4 of 5 seasons inside one of the least transferable offensive systems in college football. In his only season outside of the Gus Malzahn/Kenny Dillingham Air Raid with pace, he played poorly & was temporarily benched. He described having to make NFL type progression reads as "a nightmare". H immediately bolted to Oregon to follow Dillingham & get back to the spread concepts. I hope Payton has found his guy, but it was only a year ago that he was singing the praises of Jarrett Stidham and talking about how high is football IQ was, how intelligent he was, how he could read defenses & could process information quickly. He's not the only one. NFL players on the Raiders, 49ers & Broncos all said the same thing. There is an assumption out there that he's merely a backup. I am not at all sure we can say that since he's been behind nothing but long established, highly accomplished quarterbacks. I won't be surprised if Stidham, who played better at Auburn for Malzahn than Nix did before leaving for the NFL, is the 2024 starter when the dust clears. I think Nix has to sit for a year...not a few games.
Is it just me or does this years QB draft look small?? 6'1" 205 , theirs 3 or 4 in that range
Was just average in the sec. I hope he is successful in the NFL. He should be the most prepared with 86 college games…
Tall order starting as an underclassman qb in the SEC, especially when your team has consistent talent deficits. For those reasons and the inevitable improvement I don't think you can really support the claim that he was 'just average in the SEC', every situation is just too different with that many variables.
This was a good break down, that just ended horribly. Bo nix can’t read, yet throws 80% completion percentage? My guy, terrible take.
Both things can be true at the same time. Playing in a RPO heavy offense with one read plays leads to a high completion %. Just because he had a high completion percentage doesn't mean he made 2nd and 3rd reads correctly.
Deep balls are overrated
Dude seems ight. He'll be one of "those guys." You know what I'm talking about. Those guys that the fan base rally behinds, reassures themselves that they "got something." And then proceed to get murdered in the post-season by teams with elite quarterbacks. You know who Nix is? He's a Derek Carr 2.0. I actually said the same thing about Kenny Pickett coming out of college....if only he played like Derek Carr 😂
Yeah same and I'm a broncos fan. I really can't act like his ceiling is massive. Even penix has a higher ceiling
@@UZI-hb3cutoo early to tell, by several years. Josh Rosen and Josh Allen were considered to be somewhat equal prospects. It's a dart throw.
@@sethtenrec you can say that about literally any QB prospect ever. I'm only speaking from his college film. He hasn't shown any high ceiling. Even if he does great in the NFL, it doesn't change the fact that he didn't show high ceiling in college
@@sethtenrec Big disagree on Rosen. All I heard from Rosen from his college tape was his high level processing. Which has shown jack shit translating in the NFL. Traits based picks may be a dart throw for QB but if they improve on the actual QB'ing stuff, they add so much more to their game. Besides Rosen in a short scramble situation couldn't turn what Allen does to take off and truck smaller defenders from his 6'5 240 lb frame onto a first down.
@@UZI-hb3cu Maybe Sean Payton can work some offensive alchemy. It's not like Drew Brees was some amazing prospect out of college either, but once he got to New Orleans after a bumpy Chargers run he turned out to be pretty good, lol.
I’ve this a thousand times I think bo is back qauterback Sean was reaching . He never played one good game against good defense in college
You can’t even properly type English and yet we should take qb analysis from you?
Wouldn't surprise me if we see Zach Wilson starting for the Broncos week 1.
It would absolutely shock me.
If you made me coach the Broncos and start an NFL game this very instant, i'd still play Bo Nix over Zach Wilson.
@@ThinkingFootball Considering Mike White and Joe Flacco were able to run Mike LaFleur's offense better than Zach Wilson because the former guys can hit the quick game, I too would be shocked if Wilson ends up winning QB1 in the camp.
Wouldn’t surprise me if you didn’t know ball either 😂
Started off good. Your comment about for every good there was a bad by him is a joke. 45 tds, 3 int, 5 total sacks
When you talked about him not being good at throwing downfield you only showed his 6 or 7 misses throughout the season. His downfield connect rate was excellent
'The good parts are true but the bad parts are false' is the most fan response ever
I could have put up another 30/40 clips of his slow/poor intermediate reads or throws he missed going downfield that was underthrown and bailed out by his receiver.
Take the duck hat off in your profile and try be objective.
Get ready for the hate, Broncos fans are already crowning this guy as the best QB to ever live.
i wanted us to trade back, take QB next year. He can be decent but i just don't understand the point of a rebuild if we have a ton of holes in the roster. We could have sucked ass for a year, take a QB next year, and should have taken a lineman or edge this draft.
To be honest I thought the positive part was actually quite hopeful - that level of anticipation is special.
He's got some big holes due to scheme, that might have stunted his growth - and make it difficult to work out who he is as a prospect - and he's also got some warts like a lot of college QBs, and those i'm less hopeful about.
I think the question is - How much growth is left in a 24 year old quarterback who's been playing in an RPO offense for 5 straight years?
With good coaching, maybe there's an abundance, but also, he might have just reached his ceiling.
@@ThinkingFootball brilliant summary of the Bo NIx question mark.
Nah as a broncos fan. I gotta agree. So many fans are crowning him as the best QB ever
Like Brandon Perna
Feels like Zach Wilson 2.0. Average QB who played a Downy Soft schedule and put up inflated numbers.
Zach Wilson never anticipated a ball in his entire career and played against substantially worse competition
@@ThinkingFootball he played against worse competition, but he had less talent around him. Wilson threw into tight coverage because his receivers couldn’t separate. Basically every throw Nix made was wide ass open. Also is it anticipation, or is a designed play with 1 read?
@@nicholaskling2425 It was substantially worse competition - BYUs schedule during the covid year was really rough.
I agree with you that lots of Bo's throws were wide open - but it's difficult to deny the throws I showed are anticipation - that throw to Franklin over the middle levels is elite.
And I also agree with you - we need to see more progressions, but I can't grade what's not there
You should clean up your language
1st
First of all, breaking down 'highlights' is not a real film study. From looking at tape as a defensive coordinator / player's perspective, instead of that of a fan, we look at series after series to get the full story. Sure, Bo Nix has enough attributes to put together a highlight reel but, what does a 'true' film study show? What I saw was a lot of inconsistency during a game, that worries me. Oddly enough, there were some 'Russell Wilson' tendencies like predetermining too many targets, starring down receivers, and not going through reads on a consistent level, considering his offensive line was one of the better ones in the country. Also, too many tuck and run bailing out of clean pocket moments for my liking. Oregon faced some of college's worst defenses in the PAC 12 so, when he goes to the NFL and to a team that has a very inconsistent o-line in Denver, how will those inconsistencies play out? I think this is a guy that still needs work before he is thrown into the NFL day one. The Broncos will not be patient and per the usual, will throw him in too soon with unrealistic expectations that will most likely cut his NFL career short.
First of all, I watched all of his 2023 All-22, and I’m not a fan like you weirdo lol
Enigma? Bo Nix tape is awesome...Stop slandering white QBs, shit is pathetic