Does Bo Know? (Bo Nix Scouting Report) (2024 NFL Draft) (Denver Broncos)
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
- In this scouting report / draft profile video, we'll discuss 2024 NFL Draft Prospect, Quarterback Bo Nix of Oregon. Is Nix on top of the class alongside Caleb Williams and Drake Maye? Watch to find out!
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So what do you think? Agree? Disagree? Not sure? Let me know! As always, I also would love to know if I changed any of your opinions or, if I didn't, whether you feel more strongly about a certain opinion you had coming into the video. If you want to check out my most recent mock draft, I posted it on my second channel, which I'll be using for less-edited, more "off the cuff" type content so I can talk with you guys a bit more in between releasing these videos. Here's the link: www.youtube.com/@TheMoreJumboPackage
5/8/24 Update - I had actually done this way earlier, but I forgot to write it in here, so I figured I'd give an update anyways. About 2 weeks before the draft I increased Nix's grade. At the time this video was made, I had Nix as a "Day 1 - Quality Backup; Upside - Quality Starter Within 2 Years." That was a 5.00 value, making him a late 2nd round pick. Since making the video, I've gotten to like Nix a bit more and his current rating is "Day 1- Average Starter; Upside - Quality Starter Within 2 Years." This increases Nix's value to an Early 2nd, although I've been recently considering mixing up the values so that this would actually be equal to a late 1st but I haven't done so yet.
I’ve been rooting for Bo nix and I have a lot of hopes for this kid. Bo knows!
Haha, awesome! I actually quite liked a lot of what I saw from him on tape and, although I haven't watched a lot of the top guys yet, I feel pretty confident in saying he's a first round talent in this years draft!
@@TheJumboPackageThanks for the hearts and replies on my comments. But I have two things to say. First, I would assume your pro comp would have been Purdy, tell me if I’m wrong and please add a pro comp to your next scouting reports. And second, I’d love to here your opinion on Michael Penix Jr and maybe even Jayden Daniels as I don’t know everything about those 2 especially Penix Jr.
@@TheJumboPackage I like his pure passing ability but his success could be due to good designed plays and good blocks allowing him to get the ball out quicker without much pressure.
@@RingoGd13-kc3ty I don't really have a pro comp for Nix at the moment, but if I think of one I'll let you know. I'll be releasing those other film breakdowns soon!
@@RingoGd13-kc3ty Very possible! It's hard to be certain - I wish I was able to see him under pressure more so it'd be easier to project how he'd do against pressure in the NFL
Yes yes and yes. Broncos fan here. we got Bo in the first round. and his favorite wide receiver. makes me smile. :-)
I found that I liked Bo much more than many analysts. Although I may have him technically graded lower, that is because my scale is a harsh, so I wound up having him over other players many people ranked above Nix. I think the Broncos made a good pick with Nix at 12 and I think his ceiling is a bit higher than people give him credit for. Thanks for watching!
Single greatest trait is quick decision making.
Always a good one to see!
He is elite for a college QB with his release, ability to read a defense, and throwing accuracy. So to say he has no elite attributes isn’t exactly right. There are current starting NFL QB’s not at his level.
Age does not matter at all. He played well at Auburn, but Auburn was terrible. There is no such thing as Floor or ceiling. Nix wasn’t pressured because they routinely faced cover 8 and other similar coverages. His passes downfield are elite in accuracy so the offense is moot.
You have no idea how Oregon’s offense works. He had full autonomy. he’s one of the top QB’s in the nation under pressure.
Poor job overall. You don’t have a sufficient understanding of how the offense works. He’s reading the safeties when you think he’s moving off. He’s taught to play by getting the ball out quick beCause it works way better than hero ball. Watch Phil Simms, Kurt Warner - any actual QB. Based on what you are claiming, there’s no way his stats would be what they are and their offense would be easy to stop.
Some of these throws are insane. I really think there’s a good amount of folks that haven’t watched him enough. He’s gonna be a star
I think he's better than people give him credit for. His playmaking ability was not something I expected to see, but I was impressed with his ability to throw on the move!
quick release, accurate, excellent ball placement, anticipates defensive adjustments, fluid in and outside the pocket... yeah the best of the class of this years qbs
I’d agree with a good amount of that! I wouldn’t say he’s the best of this years QBs, but I think he’s a good prospect. Maybe I’ll be wrong!
He is the most experienced quarterback to come out of college in a very long time. He has the FBS record for the most starts in FBS ever. He has started at both Auburn and Oregon and has over 50 starts.
On my book, a QB ,who can pass on the run and pass against the grains , alone with these qualities is a top QB ! Simply, with these traits, it's extremely hard to cover ! I primary example is Joe Montana. He is at the top because of this. He is the only one that can perform like this. He is great to watch when he gets out of the pocket and scrambled to the right and leaps into the air and twists to the left, passes with accuracy. Joe's the man !
Montana was a beast for sure!!
And this is why the interview process is far more important than the boxer brief combine process. Several throws where he 'missed' wide open receivers in favor of check downs where he didn't 'read the whole field' could be explained if that's the way he's being told to read it. That's why the interview, where you sit in front of him and show him the tape and get to the bottom of it is so important.
I would definitely agree with that - can definitely be difficulty evaluating QBs for this reason. You never really know how they're asked to read the field, which is why all the combine interviews are so important!
His experience is almost like pre-season experience. Sitting back there unmolested…
He’s gonna take a leap forward being in Sean Peyton’s offense. Oregon ran a simple concept offense and it worked well for BO but we know Bo is capable of alot of more.
Agreed! I found myself being higher on Nix than many towards the end of the process and I liked the pick for the Broncos. I think he has a higher ceiling than people give him credit for and I'm excited to see him work with Sean Payton!
Great video, agree mostly, but I think some of the plays where you determine a player is open or will be is likely to be a much more risky play and set himself up much more for potential picks. Also worth noting that current approach, momentum and score should be taken into account. I'd love to see even more breakdown on some of these plays from you, especially on his feet/pocket presence/eyes, as I thinknyour insight is brilliant!
Thank you, I really appreciate that! In terms of self scouting, I completely agree - I don't often take into account situation / current approach / game flow because I usually go back to the film and write the descriptions of the plays after having saved them initially. This is something I'm looking to improve upon to help me create more accurate scouting reports because, you're right, a lot of that can dictate decision making in terms of risk tolerance (e.g., why throw the ball into a tight window when its third and one and you know the checkdown can get you enough yards?). More breakdowns will be coming soon and I look forward to hearing from you on them!
First rounder. Going to the Vikings or Broncos.
I could see it!
Great call
@@rip_conf6186 Thanks.
I’ve already seen this story. It’s no different than when I reviewed Aaron Rodgers coming out. People were meh on him too, even though his ball placement and arm talent were like Nix. In fact, if you read evaluations, theirs are nearly identical. Not prototype size, average arm strength (neither of them are average), system QB, you name it. Identical nonsense. This is how elite QB’s go in the late 1st or 2nd round. I watched the same thing happen with Drew
Brees.
Nix will go top 5 and be an excellent franchise QB. He is at his “floor” now and has plenty of development to go. He’ll end up similar to Aaron Rodgers.
When you say he wasn't asked to read the entire field and push the ball down field... which QBs in this draft were asked to do more of that? It seems hard to find a college QB these days who is being asked to run any pro concepts.
Very fair point that a lot of college QBs are not asked to do that. I would agree - not a lot are, but it's still necessary for NFL success so it is always a weakness if they weren't asked to do it alot. Caleb Williams, Drake Maye, and Jayden Daniels were all tasked with making full-field reads on a pretty consistent basis. Daniels a bit less so, but in his smaller opportunities of doing so I think he showed a very good ability to do it (as you can see from my Jayden Daniels video). Nix had times where he was asked to, but I didn't find that he was as good making his way through full fields reads.
@@TheJumboPackage Very interesting. I’m a Broncos fan and I think Sean Payton wants a field-reader. A processor who can go through progressions. Nix is being mocked to us often. I like him but his middle of the field work and progressions are the concern. Thanks for the great breakdowns!
@@bchristopher2270 Thanks for commenting, I really appreciate it! QB evaluations are so difficult, because, as I was saying before, in college, he wasn't tasked as often with making full field reads... but there is technically nothing stopping him from learning. For all we know, he could become the best ever at it! So I don't hate the fit with the Broncos because I think it could work in theory. But I'd tend to agree that his processing isn't going to be where Payton wants it on day 1 and, as a 24 year old, he'll need to learn quick.
I’d say being the most accurate passer in NCAA history is elite.
I'd push back on that point because he had such a high rate of throws behind the LoS and under 10+ yards, which are naturally easier throws to hit, thus raising his completion percentage. So I'd disagree he's elite in that area. I do find myself being higher on Nix in general than a lot of people though!
He’s gonna take a leap forward being in Sean Peyton’s offense. Oregon ran a simple concept offense and it worked well for BO but we know Bo is capable of alot of more. And how is supposed to be pressured if gets rid of the ball too quick? Make it make sense man
Love the Bobo reference as a hawks fan
Haha, glad you enjoyed! I thought I could find a "Bo Nix" "Bo Bo" joke in there somewhere, but I'm not very creative haha
He would be amazing at Denver
I could see that - him and Payton would be an excellent pairing!
Good call. Bo to Denver!!
@@franciscolucero2511 Woo! Love the fit
This was a very nice, straight to the point video! :)
I have heard some people be more critical of his arm strength. Are you confident in your evaluation or do you understand the scepticism?
Thank you, I really appreciate that! I'm confident that his arm is slightly above average, but nothing really more than that. It's definitely workable at the NFL level!
@thejumbopackage if you only have 13 first round graded players does that mean:
1. This is a shallow year for talent
2. You're grading system is harsh (ie biased negative), and if this why?
Great question! First, just to clarify, I had 13 first rounders year (the 2023 NFL draft). This year, I have 22 first rounders (so far). Second, my grading system is intentionally harsh. I do this because it helps me to better compare players across different draft classes. One year a player might be worth a first round, while the next year they might be worth a second round. I find that if I have a higher standard in delineating the different round values, it makes it easier to view players outside the context of just their draft class. Thanks for commenting!
i would say if he is elite in 1 area its decision making...
I wouldn't call him elite in that area, but the potential is there!
You were right!
Woo! Been very consistently taking him in every mock draft to Denver. I like the pick a lot for them!
I need to ask what your rating was when Tom Brady came out of the draft? Also, can you show me how the different ratings are different?
Although its certainly an interesting question, it is one I cannot answer because I was only 2 years old when Tom Brady was drafted lol. Also, I intend to put out a video on my second channel at some point showing the different ratings I have, as I'm still tinkering with them a bit! At the time this video was made, I had Nix as a "Day 1 - Quality Backup; Upside - Quality Starter Within 2 Years." That was a 5.00 value, making him a late 2nd round pick. Since making the video, I've gotten to like Nix a bit more and his current rating is "Day 1- Average Starter; Upside - Quality Starter Within 2 Years." This increases Nix's value to an Early 2nd, although I've been recently considering mixing up the values so that this would actually be equal to a late 1st but I haven't done so yet.
I think he looks great I hope the raiders pick him up. Watching his games you see how good Troy Franklin is.
I think Bo is a lot better than some people are giving him credit for!
@@TheJumboPackage fucking broncos got him dammit
@@tanner9956 Bowers is still a beast!
i could see Bo Nix easily fitting in with sean payton and the broncos. payton didn’t mesh well with russell wilson because of his inability to play in structure and make the necessary reads (especially slants in the middle of the field). nix can do everything sean wants him to, which is just play in structure and make those short and intermediate throws.
I could definitely see that! I've been really liking the Bo Nix to the Broncos pick in mock drafts lately. Feels like it could happen
Russell Wilson 29td 8 int
Who will Bo throw to on the Broncos?
@@whysoserious1978 courtland sutton, marvin mims, maybe jeudy
Bo knows the Duckies 🦆 boo! Go Huskies 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
Hahaha, good one!
This idea about his arm being weak is an absolute joke
Personally don’t think it’s weak! I don’t think he has an A+ arm or anything, but I have it in my sheet as being B+ to A-, which is obviously above average. Some of the cross body throws he made were awesome!
@@TheJumboPackage Arm strength is really not a big deal for any of these guys....They can all sling it....There are so many other attributes way more important.....Mostly casuals who don't know anything about playing Qb....None of you pussies ever lined up behind center so what do you even know??
Bo will be top 15 pick
I wouldn't doubt it!
Broncos at 11 or vikes at 9
Could definitely see that!
First. Sorry for the annoying comment but I wanted to. I didn’t like my own comment at least!
Haha, no need to apologize - love having people around who are excited to comment and talk ball!
He a perennial Back up ‼️🤣😅😆
Unfortunately there are no elite quarterbacks that do not have at least some elite traits. Bo Nix has no elite traits, therefore his ceiling will only ever be an okay quarterback.
Very possible- it’s a big question for him for sure!
Bust waiting to happen
He’s less likely a bust prospect than Caleb and Drake….
Pretty much what I saw from him. I hope the Broncos doesn't do any more stupid decisions like drafting Bo Nix. I wouldn't want him in the 7th Round. He can be a bust somewhere else.
He is the most experienced quarterback to come out of college in a very long time. He has the FBS record for the most starts in FBS ever. He has started at both Auburn and Oregon and has over 50 starts.
Didn't know that - pretty sick!