I watched the video and read through some comments and thought it might be helpful to share a few things to better understand UCC. Unlike most spray "coatings," UCC is in fact a true blue real deal cross-linking and fully curing ceramic coating. How? A VERY unique and advanced chemistry that places the catalyst inside a special emulsion that requires the physical wiping action in order to be activated. While most sprayable waxes and sealants don't really require a specific approach to get a similar end result, UCC does have a few nuances to it. For starters, the best way to apply it is by spraying the product directly onto the paint (not into a towel or an applicator), and then using a microfiber towel to work it into the paint (key being working it INTO the paint, not just super softly spreading it around) so that the emulsion breaks and the catalyst is released to start the curing process. This is what keeps it from curing when exposed to air inside of the bottle. (To my knowledge, there is no other product on the market that achieves this with this type of emulsion). Secondly, in order to take out the stress of "wipe-off window" issues, a slowing agent is present that keeps the product from immediately starting to cure. This means you can miss a spot and wipe it off a day and sometimes more later no problem. The trade-off is that it does need a full week for curing before hitting it with any sort of chemicals. Furthermore, if it is particularly cold (ie sub 70 degrees) the curing can be further slowed. Parking it in direct sun (even if the temps are below 70) should still help create warmth on the surface and help evaporate the slowing agent so that the coating can cross-link and cure. As many have found out, the early tests of this product were done in a particularly cold stretch in the US where the temp was not only below 70, it was below 60 for a couple of weeks on end. Basically a worst case scenario for curing. People ask for true innovation and transparency and authenticity in advertising, and that's what you get with UCC. On the flip-side, you have trade offs because it does require a little bit more effort than a more basic "spray coating" that offers inferior hydrophobics, slickness and/or gloss/darkness for the paint. Not every product needs to be for every person - this is just another option for folks who want a real coating without spending tons of money and time prepping and applying it. Hopefully that helps - let me know if you have any questions and I will do my best to answer them. (PS, use the @ tagging feature so I get a notification). -MK, Meguiar's Portfolio Innovation Leader
Thanks Markus! I will make sure to adjust my application and not use the applicator. I will 100% admit that I used farrr to much product when I applied it. I’m used to the applicator soaking up the excess, and combined with overlapping the application I can work the product down to a point where it’s good for wipe off. I’ll adopt your method when I reapply and make sure I’m thorough in application (would you say a short nap microfibre is the better towel for this product?). I did have my temps in range for application, I always heat the garage to at least room temp range when applying products, so I keep that as it was. Would directing the hot air from the heater at the panel help in this regard or is it more of a UV exposure that helps? Again, thanks for watching and commenting, looking forward to the reapplication.
My experience has been spot on with this. When I applied it correctly the slickness and beading rivals some pro ceramic coatings some of the other spray coatings are on par with regular spray wax with better durability its not fair in my opinion to compare the two application wise I think you should really compare Meguiars existing spray wax like the hybrid or ultimate.. cheaper and easy to apply.
@@sheepstardetail MY pleasure :) Short to medium nap should work fine - I use towels around 350GSM. The main thing is to spray straight onto the paint - believe it or not we found measurable differences in performance doing rounds of testing between spraying into the towel vs directly onto the paint. I know - weird - and also counter to how I typically recommend spray waxes or sealants, too! The second thing is to simply keep wiping it into the section until it basically goes clear. You will notice it seems to more or less just smear around for the first 15-20 seconds (give or take), and then all of the sudden it starts to wipe pretty darn clean (about 80-90%). At that point I either flip to a clean dry side of the towel, or get a second towel and then do a final round of dry buffing and you should be set. As for using hot air, IR or sunlight - anything that helps get the surface temp to around 70 degrees f or above will work. Parking it out in the sun should work fine unless it is super cold and windy, for example. Hope that helps! -MK
@@MarkusKleis thanks for the tips! I’ll heat the garage then direct hot air at the panel after buffing. I’ll keep an eye on the residue and flip once I see it clear up. Applying tonight, and filming the process so people can see the difference.
Carpro Lite is an amazing product. I haven’t used the other 3. My prediction is that Lite takes the cake here. Also, you’ll be at 1000 subscribers at least by the end of day brother. Like another comment mentioned, definitely deserve a lot more so keep grinding
Yeah I am assuming lite pulls a max verstappen and gaps everyone, but it’s always fun to see how close a spray can get to a proper coating. Appreciate the kind words, I am fortunate that I can do this as a hobby without requiring it for my livelihood, but man keeping up is expensive!
@@sheepstardetail Definitely expensive and unfortunately, the adsense doesn’t really live up to the hype but it does help offset a bit of the cost for sure
My money is on Lite. Onn a side note, I'd like to see Lite go up against Tac System Moonlight and the upgraded version, Quartz Easy. Still a lightweight but said to have 50% more solids than Moonlight.
You deserve more subscribers! Your videos are always informative and interesting with some points that are not always mentioned. I'm not sure about Meguiar's products any more, they used to be slightly more expensive but worth it but now they're just expensive.... Good luck.
Thanks, I appreciate that! I believe the megs is application error, I didn’t let it go 24 hours without getting wet due to rain in the forecast, so I’ll redo it and let it cure for 2 days and confirm it’s performance is better.
Haven’t used many Meguiars products in a while but used a lot when I first started detailing, always liked their gold class shampoo and their ceramic detailer, but I am intrigued by their new pro coating. Also would love to hear your thoughts on Technicians Choice 582, honestly for the money I think it’s one of the best products in that category. I would like to try Jimbo’s but even in the states it’s a little high, but if the performance is on par or better than others at that price like Carpro Reload and Gtechniq C2v3 I might have to give it a go. Loving the videos, glad I found your channel.
I have use tech 582 before, I found it to be pretty good but I believe a product like megs hybrid ceramic detailer out classes it. Great value though in bulk sizing. It’ll be interesting to see how Jimbo’s does real world. If it had the legs it would actually be a really decent product overall (still waiting to check gloss/fill on the other test panel).
All the products work well at their price point, since you asked, I’d like to see zymol atomic shield, zymol only uses all natural chemistry , so it’d be interesting to see results from that brand
I don’t think that product is available to me anymore. It’s also a product that would have to be free for me to consider putting it on the shelf, and even then, it’s useless.
I'd be really interested to see you using different cleaning products on the bonnet (yup, you heard the correct word😅). Pure ceramics should be resilient, but are these? How they perform throughout their life span. Cheers. Keep up the great work
The 3 main sprays are on another test panel to test chemical resistance, but I only use high activity prewash to test. Its the most representative chemical that a product should be able to withstand.
@@sheepstardetailat least 2 detailers applied it indoors in controlled environments and it didn’t work. That’s a fact. They had a bad batch, gave it away, and wasted everyone’s time.
I feel that it still needs to be tested again. A lot of detailers did not apply it in 21*C temps, so I’d like to give it a go since I can easily greet my garage up to that temperature. Unfortunately the 2 pack of coatings in Canada is $130-$140 and if it turns out to be bad, that’s a lot of money sunk into a defective product (though I’m sure a refund is possible). I will say, so far the rapid ceramic paint sealant is a great product (long term durability not yet known).
@@sheepstardetail If a lot of pro detailers cant correctly apply your product, you messed up. I applied Gyeon Mohs Evo in 32 C weather with 90% humidity and it worked perfectly. Mike G got a second bottle and it behaved differently than his first one. You may get one and it works fine but that doesn’t prove much about that initial huge batch.
Yeah I tried to get in on that initial run but they never got back to me/sent one. Too bad, I know a lot of the guys that made initial videos did not apply at 21*c, and from what I understand, it wasn’t changed just the instruction were adjusted to reflect the cure temp.
Hey mate, ive got a few bottles of cerakote. I got 4 packs from the initial release. Got refunded on them all. Not sure the cost to send to canada from Australia though :)
Email my channel email in the “about” under my channel and we can exchange info privately. I have reached out to cerakote directly to see if they’d be willing to send one.
Hey, cerakote is sending me a sample of the updated product when it is released. Let’s coordinate something for one of your original bottles so I can do a direct side by side comparison.
So the meguiars is more of a sheeting rather than beading product? I have their hybrid paint coating on my car which they are discontinuing but has lasted 6 months and is still going strong.
No I believe the megs product did not setup properly due to early moisture exposure. I’m going to re-apply that section on the weekend and give it a full 2 days to cure and reconfirm that the hydrophobic performance is better. Others have said that it does better than that so I believe it was an error on my part. Don’t lose faith in megs, they deserve some patience while RUclipsrs figure out how to apply the product.
@@andym9168 I’m on my second bottle, first went off after using half of it. This one is old stock but just recently opened so I’ll get a bit out of it yet.
Going to do an informal test on some of the coatings I have. Evo can coat and mohs,Car pro lite and gliss. Daughters car needs a refresh after this Ontario winter
@@georgeker1 could very well, but it’s a chemical resistance test for that one, and Jimbo’s is quite stout in that regard. It’ll be more interesting to see them in a real world comparison. I might do a video showcasing old vs new real world, with something like fusso coat and PNS against a couple ceramic/graphene products.
@@sheepstardetail my opinion, and it might be because we have some pretty good prices for SONAX, soft99, gyeon and co. over here in Europe, These new products aren't worth it if you only search for performance. If you like a brand or the person behind it, you might pay for theirs products and live with the fact, that there are better products out there for less money. Fusso coat and PNS are still staples and how old are they exactly? Also, for 30 something Euro you can get cancoat Evo oder Infinity Wax synergy lite. Both true sprayable coating that blow a normal sealant out of the water.
I found the Meguiars was really awful if applied to anything other than the purest bare paint. Whatever in their formula, really requires this more than other products to bond properly. I applied on one door on my car to test it out, and it was so hydrophobic, one day it rained and it was almost a dry panel compared to the rest of the car thay still had water beads. It’s an unusual product for sure. Now the M888 coating, that one is a clear winner.
Yeah it’s definitely picky. I might try to grab a proper panel spray to rule out my homemade IPA solution (though it has proven to be good for other products in the past).
@@BelLavoroAutoSpa other have comments that it does better than this with a proper 24 hours of dry curing - mine did not get that so I’ll reapply and see if there’s an improvement. I hope there is!
I commented on jimbos video that I was lazy and applied ultimate coating when it was too cold and I applied it as a topper. Didn't last bro. I properly prepped the paint and applied it and let it cure when it was warmer. Night and day difference I'm telling you. Maybe the application of this one is too finicky but if you apply correctly and let it cure it is pretty good.
I watched the video and read through some comments and thought it might be helpful to share a few things to better understand UCC. Unlike most spray "coatings," UCC is in fact a true blue real deal cross-linking and fully curing ceramic coating. How? A VERY unique and advanced chemistry that places the catalyst inside a special emulsion that requires the physical wiping action in order to be activated. While most sprayable waxes and sealants don't really require a specific approach to get a similar end result, UCC does have a few nuances to it.
For starters, the best way to apply it is by spraying the product directly onto the paint (not into a towel or an applicator), and then using a microfiber towel to work it into the paint (key being working it INTO the paint, not just super softly spreading it around) so that the emulsion breaks and the catalyst is released to start the curing process. This is what keeps it from curing when exposed to air inside of the bottle. (To my knowledge, there is no other product on the market that achieves this with this type of emulsion). Secondly, in order to take out the stress of "wipe-off window" issues, a slowing agent is present that keeps the product from immediately starting to cure. This means you can miss a spot and wipe it off a day and sometimes more later no problem.
The trade-off is that it does need a full week for curing before hitting it with any sort of chemicals. Furthermore, if it is particularly cold (ie sub 70 degrees) the curing can be further slowed. Parking it in direct sun (even if the temps are below 70) should still help create warmth on the surface and help evaporate the slowing agent so that the coating can cross-link and cure. As many have found out, the early tests of this product were done in a particularly cold stretch in the US where the temp was not only below 70, it was below 60 for a couple of weeks on end. Basically a worst case scenario for curing.
People ask for true innovation and transparency and authenticity in advertising, and that's what you get with UCC. On the flip-side, you have trade offs because it does require a little bit more effort than a more basic "spray coating" that offers inferior hydrophobics, slickness and/or gloss/darkness for the paint. Not every product needs to be for every person - this is just another option for folks who want a real coating without spending tons of money and time prepping and applying it.
Hopefully that helps - let me know if you have any questions and I will do my best to answer them. (PS, use the @ tagging feature so I get a notification).
-MK, Meguiar's Portfolio Innovation Leader
Thanks Markus! I will make sure to adjust my application and not use the applicator. I will 100% admit that I used farrr to much product when I applied it. I’m used to the applicator soaking up the excess, and combined with overlapping the application I can work the product down to a point where it’s good for wipe off. I’ll adopt your method when I reapply and make sure I’m thorough in application (would you say a short nap microfibre is the better towel for this product?).
I did have my temps in range for application, I always heat the garage to at least room temp range when applying products, so I keep that as it was. Would directing the hot air from the heater at the panel help in this regard or is it more of a UV exposure that helps?
Again, thanks for watching and commenting, looking forward to the reapplication.
My experience has been spot on with this. When I applied it correctly the slickness and beading rivals some pro ceramic coatings some of the other spray coatings are on par with regular spray wax with better durability its not fair in my opinion to compare the two application wise I think you should really compare Meguiars existing spray wax like the hybrid or ultimate.. cheaper and easy to apply.
@@sheepstardetail MY pleasure :) Short to medium nap should work fine - I use towels around 350GSM. The main thing is to spray straight onto the paint - believe it or not we found measurable differences in performance doing rounds of testing between spraying into the towel vs directly onto the paint. I know - weird - and also counter to how I typically recommend spray waxes or sealants, too!
The second thing is to simply keep wiping it into the section until it basically goes clear. You will notice it seems to more or less just smear around for the first 15-20 seconds (give or take), and then all of the sudden it starts to wipe pretty darn clean (about 80-90%). At that point I either flip to a clean dry side of the towel, or get a second towel and then do a final round of dry buffing and you should be set.
As for using hot air, IR or sunlight - anything that helps get the surface temp to around 70 degrees f or above will work. Parking it out in the sun should work fine unless it is super cold and windy, for example.
Hope that helps!
-MK
@@MarkusKleis thanks for the tips! I’ll heat the garage then direct hot air at the panel after buffing. I’ll keep an eye on the residue and flip once I see it clear up. Applying tonight, and filming the process so people can see the difference.
Carpro Lite is an amazing product. I haven’t used the other 3. My prediction is that Lite takes the cake here. Also, you’ll be at 1000 subscribers at least by the end of day brother. Like another comment mentioned, definitely deserve a lot more so keep grinding
Yeah I am assuming lite pulls a max verstappen and gaps everyone, but it’s always fun to see how close a spray can get to a proper coating.
Appreciate the kind words, I am fortunate that I can do this as a hobby without requiring it for my livelihood, but man keeping up is expensive!
@@sheepstardetail Definitely expensive and unfortunately, the adsense doesn’t really live up to the hype but it does help offset a bit of the cost for sure
@@TheCarDetailingChannel yeah I’ve heard. Something better than nothing am I right!?
@@sheepstardetail Congrats on the 1k subs bro, now get the monetization turned on asap 🍻
@TheCarDetailingChannel haha thanks man!
My money is on Lite. Onn a side note, I'd like to see Lite go up against Tac System Moonlight and the upgraded version, Quartz Easy. Still a lightweight but said to have 50% more solids than Moonlight.
Yes, a lightweight ceramic comparison is something I want to do in the future. Cancoat evo would also be a good product to test.
You deserve more subscribers!
Your videos are always informative and interesting with some points that are not always mentioned.
I'm not sure about Meguiar's products any more, they used to be slightly more expensive but worth it but now they're just expensive....
Good luck.
Thanks, I appreciate that! I believe the megs is application error, I didn’t let it go 24 hours without getting wet due to rain in the forecast, so I’ll redo it and let it cure for 2 days and confirm it’s performance is better.
@sheepstardetail I heard that but I was thinking of other products by them.
Thanks for the reply, the revised test should be interesting.
Haven’t used many Meguiars products in a while but used a lot when I first started detailing, always liked their gold class shampoo and their ceramic detailer, but I am intrigued by their new pro coating.
Also would love to hear your thoughts on Technicians Choice 582, honestly for the money I think it’s one of the best products in that category.
I would like to try Jimbo’s but even in the states it’s a little high, but if the performance is on par or better than others at that price like Carpro Reload and Gtechniq C2v3 I might have to give it a go.
Loving the videos, glad I found your channel.
I have use tech 582 before, I found it to be pretty good but I believe a product like megs hybrid ceramic detailer out classes it. Great value though in bulk sizing.
It’ll be interesting to see how Jimbo’s does real world. If it had the legs it would actually be a really decent product overall (still waiting to check gloss/fill on the other test panel).
All the products work well at their price point, since you asked, I’d like to see zymol atomic shield, zymol only uses all natural chemistry , so it’d be interesting to see results from that brand
I don’t think that product is available to me anymore. It’s also a product that would have to be free for me to consider putting it on the shelf, and even then, it’s useless.
I miss waxmode as well, thanks for taking up the mantle
I will do my best!
Great straight through review 1000th subscriber congrats you deserve so many more!
Thanks man! Haha I screen shot your sub so I knew who it was!
I'd be really interested to see you using different cleaning products on the bonnet (yup, you heard the correct word😅). Pure ceramics should be resilient, but are these? How they perform throughout their life span.
Cheers. Keep up the great work
The 3 main sprays are on another test panel to test chemical resistance, but I only use high activity prewash to test. Its the most representative chemical that a product should be able to withstand.
I would like to see Griot’s 3 in 1 ceramic spray wax and Turtle wax hybrid solutions ceramic spray coating compare again as inst Cerakote.
Yeah I need to get the griots spray, put it off for a long time.
Any coating that needs more than a few hours isn't suitable for home use unless you've a garage to park the car in
My thoughts exactly. You should also maintain a reasonable temperature range when applying and curing the product.
Yes! Get those bucks rolling in!
CQuartz Lite is an awesome product ! My favorite lite ceramic coating. My prediction is a win for CQuartz Lite
Oh, I didn’t put Cquartz lite in there because I thought these would beat it, I did it because I wanted to see how close the sprays would get.
Now quite true about cerakote… it was faulty that’s the reason it was taken off the market. Cheering for Jimbos
It’s still available to buy, they just updated the application instructions - needs to be applied and cured at 21*C.
@@sheepstardetailat least 2 detailers applied it indoors in controlled environments and it didn’t work. That’s a fact. They had a bad batch, gave it away, and wasted everyone’s time.
I feel that it still needs to be tested again. A lot of detailers did not apply it in 21*C temps, so I’d like to give it a go since I can easily greet my garage up to that temperature. Unfortunately the 2 pack of coatings in Canada is $130-$140 and if it turns out to be bad, that’s a lot of money sunk into a defective product (though I’m sure a refund is possible).
I will say, so far the rapid ceramic paint sealant is a great product (long term durability not yet known).
@@sheepstardetail If a lot of pro detailers cant correctly apply your product, you messed up. I applied Gyeon Mohs Evo in 32 C weather with 90% humidity and it worked perfectly. Mike G got a second bottle and it behaved differently than his first one. You may get one and it works fine but that doesn’t prove much about that initial huge batch.
Yeah I tried to get in on that initial run but they never got back to me/sent one. Too bad, I know a lot of the guys that made initial videos did not apply at 21*c, and from what I understand, it wasn’t changed just the instruction were adjusted to reflect the cure temp.
Hey mate, ive got a few bottles of cerakote. I got 4 packs from the initial release. Got refunded on them all. Not sure the cost to send to canada from Australia though :)
Email my channel email in the “about” under my channel and we can exchange info privately. I have reached out to cerakote directly to see if they’d be willing to send one.
Hey, cerakote is sending me a sample of the updated product when it is released. Let’s coordinate something for one of your original bottles so I can do a direct side by side comparison.
@@sheepstardetailroger that
So the meguiars is more of a sheeting rather than beading product? I have their hybrid paint coating on my car which they are discontinuing but has lasted 6 months and is still going strong.
No I believe the megs product did not setup properly due to early moisture exposure. I’m going to re-apply that section on the weekend and give it a full 2 days to cure and reconfirm that the hydrophobic performance is better. Others have said that it does better than that so I believe it was an error on my part. Don’t lose faith in megs, they deserve some patience while RUclipsrs figure out how to apply the product.
@sheepstardetail but it was supposed to be easy to apply?
@@robm7076 I don’t think it says anything about easy to apply, I’ll re-read the bottle.
Cquartz has my vote. It is a bear to remove though! Just ordered Evo cancoat and Mohs 🤞🏻give Gyeon a go
I’ve found the garage can’t be too warm or cold, and it has to be removed immediately for it to be reasonable in removal. Otherwise it’s quite tough.
Had that bottle for a while I’m thinking a lot of the solvent had flashed off 🤷🏼♂️maybe
@@andym9168 I’m on my second bottle, first went off after using half of it. This one is old stock but just recently opened so I’ll get a bit out of it yet.
Going to do an informal test on some of the coatings I have. Evo can coat and mohs,Car pro lite and gliss. Daughters car needs a refresh after this Ontario winter
Too bad about Waxmode. He was top of the heap for me
Now put the 3 non ceramic ones against the SONAX BSD, which is over 10 years on the market and see which one is better...
Technically, Sonax PNS is the direct competitor. Who knows, it might be in a test coming up…. 😉
@@sheepstardetailIf you put them against the PNS you'll just shame the hell out of them 😏
@@georgeker1 could very well, but it’s a chemical resistance test for that one, and Jimbo’s is quite stout in that regard. It’ll be more interesting to see them in a real world comparison. I might do a video showcasing old vs new real world, with something like fusso coat and PNS against a couple ceramic/graphene products.
@@sheepstardetail my opinion, and it might be because we have some pretty good prices for SONAX, soft99, gyeon and co. over here in Europe, These new products aren't worth it if you only search for performance. If you like a brand or the person behind it, you might pay for theirs products and live with the fact, that there are better products out there for less money. Fusso coat and PNS are still staples and how old are they exactly? Also, for 30 something Euro you can get cancoat Evo oder Infinity Wax synergy lite. Both true sprayable coating that blow a normal sealant out of the water.
I found the Meguiars was really awful if applied to anything other than the purest bare paint. Whatever in their formula, really requires this more than other products to bond properly.
I applied on one door on my car to test it out, and it was so hydrophobic, one day it rained and it was almost a dry panel compared to the rest of the car thay still had water beads.
It’s an unusual product for sure.
Now the M888 coating, that one is a clear winner.
Yeah it’s definitely picky. I might try to grab a proper panel spray to rule out my homemade IPA solution (though it has proven to be good for other products in the past).
I'm so disappointed by meguiars. it does make dark paint look amazing though.
Hopefully a reapplication gets the performance back in line. Definitely a harder product to apply though.
@@sheepstardetail your results are in line with mine and jimbos.
@@BelLavoroAutoSpa other have comments that it does better than this with a proper 24 hours of dry curing - mine did not get that so I’ll reapply and see if there’s an improvement. I hope there is!
@@sheepstardetail left it for 3 days on mine. Meguiars told me 7 days ideally. I'll retest it again against other products eventually.
I commented on jimbos video that I was lazy and applied ultimate coating when it was too cold and I applied it as a topper. Didn't last bro. I properly prepped the paint and applied it and let it cure when it was warmer. Night and day difference I'm telling you. Maybe the application of this one is too finicky but if you apply correctly and let it cure it is pretty good.