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Jiro has an amazing character arc through the plot of finding his son and losing him to the Dentist, then watching Bain kill him. Then he becomes a wandering samurai type in the epilouge. He deserves S tier for that alone. Plus you can feel the emotion and energy in all of his lines. My man Jiro needs more respect.
@@firstnamelastnamethirdname I heard a romor that on payday 3, cloakers has a new animation, if your character is a dude, cloakers will kick you in the nuts
Rust should've been d. His entire performance was completely and utterly phoned in. Not a single line was good or sounded like anything other then him collecting a paycheck
Red Archer Live *goes through all of the heisters, give some good arguements for all the heisters. Then gets to Sydney.............WE ALL KNOW WHERE THIS IS GOING* No just kidding Red, honestly some really good agruements for the heisters (breathed a sigh of relief when Scarface was put into A tier)
“what helps is that the performance of the actor who played him is really really good” probably would help that he was chosen by al pacino for the scarface game huh?
As a Jimmy main who wears the Almir's beard I hope he's high. Wish there was a way to wear both the beard and the green beanie, then I would keep asking teammates about their jackets.
I really do like Ron Pearlman, and Rust is one of my favorites. That said I like Rust for the aesthetics and the biker dlc as a whole. I wish they would get another voice actor, drop pearlman's likeness, and finally update him and become a better character
I just love Hila because she doesn't scream when things become loud lol. Pretty, pretty smooth voice imo even that she doesn't show any effort. The biggest problem is just her model, trash af wtf overkill lmao. Aside, A tier easily.
The biggest problem with many other characters is how they don't have updated lines, like Jimmy and so on. It's pain trying to shout over to a clueless newbie playing of the more recently added characters when your character cannot call them by name.
I kinda agree on most of the List, i'd put Jiro in A tier tho, not only because character is great, but also he have a place in story, the whole Search for kento plot, and Kotaru buisness. He'd be 100 cooler if Jiro had at least some mix-up between Japanise and English, because his fater was an American i belive, not like 60% english to 40% japanise, rather like 20% english 80% japanise, even game Tips say that Jiro improved his english a little while in America, and he had at some point dialogue in english in safehouse, how he "couldn't even order a pizza"
I’m two years late to this but as a Hotline Miami fan… A tier is an incredibly fair and agreeable spot for Jacket. I love the way Jacket was characterized in Payday 2 and I love the tape recorder. But I can entirely see how the constant repeat in his lines can get quite repetitive for some people. So A is entirely fair.
I think something is wrong with the tier list, none of the masks are showing up for me in the updated list. If anyone may know how to fix it I would love to show my ranking!
Yeah, that was my issue too. I made a tier and then basically dragged each mask into that. I hoped my link would fix that but it seems it didn't sorry!
I played sokol alot he is by far my favorite heister cuz of his funny voicelines and his russian accent too even he hates jacket replay tape, which he says *hey, f*ck you and your cassete one day i will steal it from you while you sleep in bed and i will make you talk like a real person." when you playing as jacket in safe house.
Love ya red, but I gotta go with the tough love angle. Rating characters B because you haven't played them enough feels a little lazy/feels like a cop out. What was stopping you from playing 3 or 4 heists as them or even just looking up a video of their pager lines before making this video?
Console covers Xbox and PlayStation. There's no difference in content. I can't exactly afford a PS5 right now to make the same amount of videos as I do for Xbox... Which is almost none with how little content there is these days 🤦♂️
Not at that point yet, but if Scarface isn’t in A tier at least, imma flip. EDIT: Yeah I’m flipping, this is heresy. EDIT 2: Currently unflipping, what a rollercoaster of emotions.
I swear something gets lost in "translation", for lack of a better term, in Ron Perlman's performance. Maybe it's that he is more well known but like... personally, i never saw Hellboy and he's the main villain in a lot of Sons of Anarchy, so i don't think I like him for those performances like you say, but I've seen him get ranked low by two non-American payday RUclipsrs out of two videos I've watched who both had that sams complaint: his delivery was monotone. But I digress; I say something gets lost in translation because I can clearly hear him enunciating and putting force and dynamic tone behind those lines. It's just that he isn't saying them like he's *panicked* about it, like a lot of the other heisters do, and that makes sense for an outlaw biker in his 60s; if you live to be 60 in that life, you either got locked up for life at a young age and weren't important enough for a prison shanking, were as good as dead and retired, or you survived so many people trying to kill you that you don't stress about it anymore, because by all rights you should have been killed about 15 times by now. Additionally, a big chunk of the founding members of American MCs were war veterans, and you hear that same sort of inflection where they speak loudly but not screaming or panicky, just matter-of-factly calling out targets, and I think that's what is lost in this translation. Compare Rust's lines to the delivery of a military officer in a war film (importantly, not a drill sergeant) and the cadence is similar. I don't know exactly what it is but i listen to Rust a lot since he's consistently on my crew, and i just can't hear the monotone people claim his delivery is.
Joy isn't very popular but she is my main. I've gotten so used to her lines that they don't bother me as much. I really do hate her "Bye bye electro" line though. The taser lines for every character and the taser VA himself make me cringe so bad.
@@RedArcherLive I totally knew that you made this video. I alrighty like it too. I totally knew you already made this I’m only testing you to see if you........................................😏
I'm in the same boat with Wick. I didn't know about the franchise, I don't watch too many movies. But at the time the DLC came out I was absolutely addicted to Payday, so ended up watching the movie trailers, and decided to watch them. I've digitally rented the first movie on the morning of the release date, went to see the movie premiere in my cinema, and then bought the heist. I think you can call that a very successful promotion.
Honestly even though Hilda's portrayal in the game is admittedly bad (honestly very bad) I can greatly respect the attempt and think that it was great that h3h3 had a great time making the pack. No matter my personal opinion on the quality of the crossover I can genuinely recognize the effort put into making it as good as it could be, even though I personally think it was sort of doomed from the start.
I had a feeling it'd be one of them P2W mobile games, thankfully not RAID Shadow Legends. this a good tier list just bump all 5 of the og heisters to S tier and we good and put sydney in D tier
I mean to be fair, if Raid offered I'd at least *consider* taking it. At the end of the day, sponsorships are sponsorships and you can always skip them lol
It's part of the agreement to have it at the start of the video. Some sponsorships allow you to choose where you position the promotion, others don't :)
Tier lists are opinion base. If people couldn't understand that from the beginning. That's pretty disappointing for people wanting to hate you, for your opinion.
I know this is the wrong video, but I saw one of your older videos and you have skins for guns on console? Im on PS4 but it seems your on Xbox, so are skins xbox only (aswell as pc)
Just discovered your channel because of this video! Subscribed when you put Chains in S tier. Unsubscribed when you put Sydney in S tier. >:( Just kidding thanks for an entertaining video man :)
Why isn't wolf A atleast..... prob because I played alot of pdth Edit: I've played payday the hiest alot thus I really like the original pdth characters
I cannot agree with your placement of Joy. As you said, her "we are gamers" shirt is way too on the nose. I think that necessitates her dropping a tier, and think about it - if her "we are gamers" shirt were removed, would she be A tier? I still don't think so. So that's why I would put her at C tier, and if her shirt design were changed, I would put her at B tier. Currently, she does not belong with Dallas' tier.
I got a question what's the point of this tier list? Cause more then half of the characters are B cause you didn't play them if you didn't your opinion really doesn't matter sorry
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John wick should be S 🥱
Jiro has an amazing character arc through the plot of finding his son and losing him to the Dentist, then watching Bain kill him. Then he becomes a wandering samurai type in the epilouge. He deserves S tier for that alone. Plus you can feel the emotion and energy in all of his lines. My man Jiro needs more respect.
I kinda wish there was a mod that translated his lines... he seems like he's funny.
Wandering samurai are called Ronin
my boi getting his first sponsored video... they grow up so fast ;-;
Are ya winning, son?
If Jimmy isn't on S, I'm going to commit some serious crimes.
Same.
That’s literally the only character I play
if you havent commiited serious crimes why play payday ?
I agree
Houston should be S rank just for his "suck it medic" line.
Thank you
6:06 I feel a 10 pound weight resting on my heart now. But in all seriousness it’s unfortunate what happened to Ulf and how that has left Wolf.
If duke isn’t near the top I will do absolutely nothing and be angry
Dallas needs his medic bag cuz he's in the A tier.
Ow, right in the feels
No amount of medic bags will heal those wounds
@@firstnamelastnamethirdname What about revive?
@@OriginalTolerance not even a revive
@@firstnamelastnamethirdname I heard a romor that on payday 3, cloakers has a new animation, if your character is a dude, cloakers will kick you in the nuts
i felt my heart being pierced by a rail spike and being ripped out with barbed wire when wolf got B
pain.
Hallo keep those helmets flying fellow heisters
Sokol is such an underrated heister, I always play as him.
Accidentally pressed small American button with BIG RUSSIAN MUSCLE
@@foxinahat1886 I come America, happy very, job easy, sit very much hours is nice
He has some of the better pager lines in the game and has pet name lines for a few characters
Thicc Joy mod is ballin
Rust should've been d. His entire performance was completely and utterly phoned in. Not a single line was good or sounded like anything other then him collecting a paycheck
Pretty good list I agree with most except jacket he's an S >:)
I dont think that's supposed to go there
I agree with Sydney and Jimmy in the S tier but, Jacket in the A tier! Truthfully, should be placed in the S tier
Jacket is the most unique my friend, agree
Red Archer Live *goes through all of the heisters, give some good arguements for all the heisters. Then gets to Sydney.............WE ALL KNOW WHERE THIS IS GOING* No just kidding Red, honestly some really good agruements for the heisters (breathed a sigh of relief when Scarface was put into A tier)
I'm just waiting for Leroy Character Pack
The man we're all waiting for
“what helps is that the performance of the actor who played him is really really good” probably would help that he was chosen by al pacino for the scarface game huh?
once I saw the “Paid Promotion” on the bottom left in the vid I was a bit surprised 😅
Yeah, I expected some people to find it surprising. I just hope people appreciate why I've chosen to do this lol
nothing quite like hearing sokol scream *BU-DDY* at the top of his lungs from across the map for no reason
As a Jimmy main who wears the Almir's beard I hope he's high.
Wish there was a way to wear both the beard and the green beanie, then I would keep asking teammates about their jackets.
he's always high anyway
I really do like Ron Pearlman, and Rust is one of my favorites. That said I like Rust for the aesthetics and the biker dlc as a whole. I wish they would get another voice actor, drop pearlman's likeness, and finally update him and become a better character
'I like the blue hair, which I wish I could say is only limited to this game.'
Well, I suppose that Life is Strange indeed in some lovely ways lol.
I just started playing. Thanks for the video, gives me an idea of which characters to check out.
Still find it funny that Jacket is just alive
I just clicked the video to see where you placed hoxton
Nice.
Sokol S tier, his stealth voice lines and pager responses are S tier easy
Barney your popcorn is scaring control!
Puts Dragan in A tier
Croatia: everyone like that
i love sangeres for his funny voice lines and pager lines. and love how he can change his shirt alot. it made it feel real.
Congrats to getting a sponsor!
Hey at least you actually made the sponsorship interesting
Congrats on getting sponsored. Great video btw.
average clover/Sydney main not liking any other character because they never play any other character
Wolf is my favorite and always has been but I kinda 100% agree I never really paid attention to it until you explained it but HIS MASK
I just love Hila because she doesn't scream when things become loud lol. Pretty, pretty smooth voice imo even that she doesn't show any effort. The biggest problem is just her model, trash af wtf overkill lmao. Aside, A tier easily.
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Sokol should be mid A tier honestly. His lines are sometimes calm, sometimes intense, and almost always comedic
For me I have the same feeling for Duke
"Memes the DNA of the SOUL" "Shut up Raiden Sokol is A and Duke is A too"
"NO! JOY IS S TIER AND JIMMY SUCKS"
*throws the USS Nimitz at raiden*
The biggest problem with many other characters is how they don't have updated lines, like Jimmy and so on. It's pain trying to shout over to a clueless newbie playing of the more recently added characters when your character cannot call them by name.
I kinda agree on most of the List, i'd put Jiro in A tier tho, not only because character is great, but also he have a place in story, the whole Search for kento plot, and Kotaru buisness. He'd be 100 cooler if Jiro had at least some mix-up between Japanise and English, because his fater was an American i belive, not like 60% english to 40% japanise, rather like 20% english 80% japanise, even game Tips say that Jiro improved his english a little while in America, and he had at some point dialogue in english in safehouse, how he "couldn't even order a pizza"
Housten is the best for stealth lines and most realistic
You can tell he was the original Ghost.
@@stevenbobbybills he literally yells "SHIT!" when spotting a guard or a camera.
H O U S T E N
@@ghostly9548 it doesn't get stealthier than that. No one will suspect a thing, he'll blend right in.
@@stevenbobbybills that's what i mean, geez.
Seeing Jacket on A instead of S broke my heart (I still respect the opinion as long as you don't put him in D)
Jacket is far too good for D
I’m two years late to this but as a Hotline Miami fan…
A tier is an incredibly fair and agreeable spot for Jacket.
I love the way Jacket was characterized in Payday 2 and I love the tape recorder.
But I can entirely see how the constant repeat in his lines can get quite repetitive for some people. So A is entirely fair.
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Respect the Dragan love, man, he's the first character I played as
Average Deep web sonic fan vs Average chad dallas enjoyer
dallas should've been in S tier.
I think something is wrong with the tier list, none of the masks are showing up for me in the updated list. If anyone may know how to fix it I would love to show my ranking!
Yeah, that was my issue too. I made a tier and then basically dragged each mask into that. I hoped my link would fix that but it seems it didn't sorry!
Dragan A tier? I mean yano what I’ll damn take it. He’s a glorious man
Im at the start of the video and if jacket isnt at s tier imma be very upset
Edit: it’ll do
Oh no
sokol should be in a or s tier because he is my friend :)
How could you call Sydney marmite? You gotta call her vegemite lmao
I played sokol alot he is by far my favorite heister cuz of his funny voicelines and his russian accent too even he hates jacket replay tape, which he says *hey, f*ck you and your cassete one day i will steal it from you while you sleep in bed and i will make you talk like a real person." when you playing as jacket in safe house.
Wolf B? NOOOOO
Love this video, awesome
Thank you!
@@RedArcherLive no problem man, keep doing your content, love it
So you'll put Wolf in B because that's how ya feel
But you'll put Jacket in A because that's how everyone else feels
okeydokey archer man
Brain is chad since he used to be a hiester
Joy-main here. B is way, like waaay higher than i thought he would leave her
Love ya red, but I gotta go with the tough love angle. Rating characters B because you haven't played them enough feels a little lazy/feels like a cop out. What was stopping you from playing 3 or 4 heists as them or even just looking up a video of their pager lines before making this video?
oh god its b33 archer live
bald plus ginger
hell yeah chains is definitely my favorite character in the game
Jacket shall be S tier just because he uses a tape recorder.
"I make payday 2 and 3 videos for all platforms" proceeds to not have a single video on PlayStation
Console covers Xbox and PlayStation. There's no difference in content. I can't exactly afford a PS5 right now to make the same amount of videos as I do for Xbox... Which is almost none with how little content there is these days 🤦♂️
duke should be s tier otherwise its perfect
Not at that point yet, but if Scarface isn’t in A tier at least, imma flip.
EDIT: Yeah I’m flipping, this is heresy.
EDIT 2: Currently unflipping, what a rollercoaster of emotions.
Lmfao you win my favourite comment so far, this comments section is hilarious
@@RedArcherLive I’ll wear that badge with honour, haha
Do people use characters with there masks or use custom ones
I swear something gets lost in "translation", for lack of a better term, in Ron Perlman's performance. Maybe it's that he is more well known but like... personally, i never saw Hellboy and he's the main villain in a lot of Sons of Anarchy, so i don't think I like him for those performances like you say, but I've seen him get ranked low by two non-American payday RUclipsrs out of two videos I've watched who both had that sams complaint: his delivery was monotone.
But I digress; I say something gets lost in translation because I can clearly hear him enunciating and putting force and dynamic tone behind those lines. It's just that he isn't saying them like he's *panicked* about it, like a lot of the other heisters do, and that makes sense for an outlaw biker in his 60s; if you live to be 60 in that life, you either got locked up for life at a young age and weren't important enough for a prison shanking, were as good as dead and retired, or you survived so many people trying to kill you that you don't stress about it anymore, because by all rights you should have been killed about 15 times by now.
Additionally, a big chunk of the founding members of American MCs were war veterans, and you hear that same sort of inflection where they speak loudly but not screaming or panicky, just matter-of-factly calling out targets, and I think that's what is lost in this translation. Compare Rust's lines to the delivery of a military officer in a war film (importantly, not a drill sergeant) and the cadence is similar.
I don't know exactly what it is but i listen to Rust a lot since he's consistently on my crew, and i just can't hear the monotone people claim his delivery is.
reverse ethan and hila's positions
Joy isn't very popular but she is my main. I've gotten so used to her lines that they don't bother me as much. I really do hate her "Bye bye electro" line though. The taser lines for every character and the taser VA himself make me cringe so bad.
Good decision, only being beaten by jimmy is a good tier list.
Not quite perfect but good.
Now make a tier list for all 60+ heists
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Wolf is easily S rank he is wild as all fuck
I'm in the same boat with Wick. I didn't know about the franchise, I don't watch too many movies. But at the time the DLC came out I was absolutely addicted to Payday, so ended up watching the movie trailers, and decided to watch them. I've digitally rented the first movie on the morning of the release date, went to see the movie premiere in my cinema, and then bought the heist. I think you can call that a very successful promotion.
Hoxton is my favourite heister because he's British like me and he's just a complete chad
Hoxton supremacy
@@RedArcherLive Agreed. I do like duke tho
Where is Sokol?
B tier....
Honestly even though Hilda's portrayal in the game is admittedly bad (honestly very bad) I can greatly respect the attempt and think that it was great that h3h3 had a great time making the pack. No matter my personal opinion on the quality of the crossover I can genuinely recognize the effort put into making it as good as it could be, even though I personally think it was sort of doomed from the start.
I had a feeling it'd be one of them P2W mobile games, thankfully not RAID Shadow Legends.
this a good tier list just bump all 5 of the og heisters to S tier and we good
and put sydney in D tier
I mean to be fair, if Raid offered I'd at least *consider* taking it. At the end of the day, sponsorships are sponsorships and you can always skip them lol
@@RedArcherLive If you do, do it during a RAID WW2 Video on like April Fool's or smth, good meme potential.
8:05 it’s pronounced “E Fuh” in case anyone was wondering.
I hate knowing things like this in present day and then realising there were times I didn't 😂
Why isn’t the ad at the end of the video?
It's part of the agreement to have it at the start of the video. Some sponsorships allow you to choose where you position the promotion, others don't :)
@@RedArcherLive understandable, have a very safe day
@@balotelli5572 you too king
Hila is actually my favorite 😊
Chains gang, definitely S tier
The thing with Wick is that they couldn't afford having Keanu voice him, which sucks, but they still tried to make it sound similar.
I can't tell if the blue hair comment is you saying you like chloe or dislike her lol.
I don't like her
*I love her*
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Tier lists are opinion base. If people couldn't understand that from the beginning. That's pretty disappointing for people wanting to hate you, for your opinion.
Is there an option to set random heister. Because you should stream on PC, playing all of the characters. In general.
But I do agree with this tier list. I haven't played Ethan or (I forgot how to spell her name) but everything else is really good.
Sangres is my favorite, but he deserves B
I predict Sydney is at the number 1 spot
well i was expecting you to get scarface on s tier
but nevermind its your opinion :D
Sangres and Joy are not on the same level
Well, that's the first Red Archer video I disliked, Wolf is not B tier, not even close, consider yourself blocked, Troy!
I know this is the wrong video, but I saw one of your older videos and you have skins for guns on console? Im on PS4 but it seems your on Xbox, so are skins xbox only (aswell as pc)
Nope, I just use a controller on PC
Just discovered your channel because of this video! Subscribed when you put Chains in S tier. Unsubscribed when you put Sydney in S tier. >:(
Just kidding thanks for an entertaining video man :)
Honestly I have no regrets, this comments section is amazing 😂😂 thanks for subscribing!
why is sangres and duke not s tier
Me who sacrificed arcadia bay to save chloe 🙈🙈😂😂
I get so triggered when People pronounce Dragan's name wrong
If Jimmy isn't on top, I will personally travel to the U.K and eat your tea sipping soul.
If jimmy ain’t in a tier imma be big sad
Pog
My opinion sokol,Hoxton,and bodhi are s tier
Why isn't wolf A atleast..... prob because I played alot of pdth
Edit: I've played payday the hiest alot thus I really like the original pdth characters
Jacket ❤️
I cannot agree with your placement of Joy. As you said, her "we are gamers" shirt is way too on the nose. I think that necessitates her dropping a tier, and think about it - if her "we are gamers" shirt were removed, would she be A tier? I still don't think so. So that's why I would put her at C tier, and if her shirt design were changed, I would put her at B tier. Currently, she does not belong with Dallas' tier.
I wouldn't say her T Shirt is worth a whole tier if I'm honest, but interesting to read your thoughts nonetheless :)
Sydney for life ❤️
I got a question what's the point of this tier list? Cause more then half of the characters are B cause you didn't play them if you didn't your opinion really doesn't matter sorry
Sydney.... at S?!?!