Jerry Goldsmith was the best! So nice to see him recognized! The workload for scoring this was pretty high, so he asked his son Joel to help. He did a great deal of the Borg music, and went on to score a lot of Stargate SG-1. Both died way too young.
Yes, Voyager was airing its second season when this was released. Bob invoking De to improvise, "I'm a doctor, not a ..." during one of his auditions for Voyager is one of the things that helped him get cast. I imagine that using the EMH here was a way for Paramount to promote Voyager and, by extension, UPN (which was also relatively new) Also, whales are mammals, not fish. * shakes fist at cloud * Also, that is like Marina Sirtis at most convention panels ... which is delightful. A Vulcan dancing? Voyager!
The V'ger nebula sound was done with a blaster beam, a concept instrument based on a long metal beam (~5m/15ft) with steel wires mounted on it under tension, with electric guitar pickups to register the vibration of the wires and turn them into sound. It's played by striking the wires with anything you have: fingers, pipes, rods, sticks,... artillery shells... Essentially an electric guitar on steroids. The refined version mostly heard was built and patented by former child actor Craig Huxley (he appeared twice in TOS as a kid!), who also performed it in the Star Trek movie scores, including here. Goldsmith was always eager to incorporate strange instruments and noise makers into his scores. Arthur Morton, his long-time orchestrator, once said, after there was some strange sound in the studio: "Find out what makes that noise, then give it to Jerry."
Some funny observations about this movie: Dr. Crusher says "I swore I'd never use one of these" before activating the EMH. Well, yeah, that's kind of the point! The EMH is only there in case all the ship's medical staff dies! We know from both TNG and Voyager that Borg drones separated from the collective eventually regain their individuality. So what happened to the Borg who got thrown into space during the big action scene on the outside of the ship? I mean, they probably fell into Earth's gravity and burned up, but did they regain their self-awareness before they did? I hope not! Kind of horrifying to think about. :P Why are Borg plans so convoluted? Why didn't they just travel back in time before they battled a hundred Federation ships? Do it before the Federation even knows what they're doing and their plan probably can't fail! It's ok, though. I know if they did it that way, there wouldn't be a movie. :P Also, the helmsman on the bridge of the Defiant in the opening battle scene is Adam Scott.
TNG never really had it's own unique theme. The intro theme you hear was simply recycled from Star Trek The Motion Picture. The theme in this movie is perfect for TNG and they even use it as the them for Picard Season 3, which might as well be TNG Season 8.
From early in your conversation, I highly, HIGHLY recommend "The Secret of NIMH." Still one of the best animated kids' movies to this day (one of my childhood faves) Goldsmith goes nuts on that score, and it had such beautiful, sparkling visuals and a heart-felt story with likeable characters. I'll bet any amount of money you'll love Secret of NIMH Ollie. Yes, Jerry scored the first Alien movie as well.
Christina knew right away it wasn't Bizet. She's a true trekkie! :) 20:00 After TOS ended, security / engineering turned from red into yellow, so the yellows usually die in TNG and after. :)
It was great seeing the two of you react to this one together. I remember when you first brought him to our attention. You’ve both grown into doing excellent jobs with your reaction videos. My favorite moments were… “Why’d they call him Locutus? He’s not even cute.” 😄 It was perfectly corny and I appreciate that. 😁 The other moment wad when you both shared your regular sign off. Brilliant job by the both of you. 👏👏👏
Makes sense, like the bridge modules they were probably modular units fitted in so similar in spec for similar era ships. At least that's my lore hypothesis.
"Assimilate this!" Hey Ollie! 😁 Some people say the idea of a Borg Queen ruins the Borg. I disagree. She doesn't control the Borg, she is the Borg. She is the expression of the Borg. She's the face of the Borg. Much like Locutus, she is the focal point of interaction. If you think of the Borg Queen in those terms, she makes sense. Fun Fact: At the end of filming, actor and director Jonathan Frakes got the nickname "Two-Takes Frakes" because of the efficiency of his style. Absolute Defiant Fact: The U.S.S. Defiant, introduced on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine (1993), was built for the sole purpose of fighting and defeating the Borg. This film features the only time the ship fights the Borg. Family Affair Fact: Although his name is never given in this film, according to Star Trek canon, the Vulcan who salutes Zefram Cochrane (James Cromwell) is named Solkar (Cully Fredricksen). As mentioned in Star Trek III: The Search For Spock (1984), Solkar is the grandfather of Sarek (Mark Lenard) and subsequently the great-grandfather of Spock (Leonard Nimoy). Twelve Parsecs Fact: Industrial Light & Magic animators created several new classes of Federation starships for the huge CGI animation sequence against the Borg. Classes include the Akira, Sabre, Steamrunner, and others. In addition, the Industrial Light & Magic animators had a little fun with this by placing a shot of the Millennium Falcon from Star Wars in the battle, which can be seen in several DVD versions of this film. The scene showing this can easily be seen by going to the Star Trek fansite, Daystrom Institute Technical Library, and looking at the sixth and last image for the Akira-class starship. There, just under the Akira's port nacelle, you can see the Millennium Falcon just after she made a strafing run on the Borg Cube.
It's long been a popular fan theory that after the events of "Relics", Montgomery Scott was involved in the design of the Sovereign class and personally oversaw the construction of the Enterprise-E.
Christina and Ollie, here is a bit of trivia from TNG. Do you know some of the scenes have ductwork with the letters GNDN? Those letters are for the set designers to help locate conduit housing power wires and water pipes, because the ones marked GNDN were cosmetic only, and the pipes "Go Nowhere, and Do Nothing"...GNDN. Look for them within scenes!
When Cocharine downs that shot of the bad stuff and he does the arm pump it is a direct channeling of the Jack Nicholson character from the 1968 film Easy Rider.
In the long history of Real Trek, the scene where the aliens are revealed to be Vulcans at the end is the most perfect, most genuinely heartfelt moment to me.
Regarding borrowing music in films(specifically Star Trek), it's so weird to hear the final climax of Die Hard(outside the Nakatomi Building) where director McTiernan decided to use an unused track from Aliens(by James Horner) which is itself basically a reused excerpt from the climax of the Battle of the Mutara Nebula from Star Trek 2 - TWOK(also Horner). Once you hear it, you can't unhear it.
Since my knowledge of opera is … wanting, I opened my copy of First Contact and gave my iPhone’s built-in music recognition a try… and this is what she came up with … I’m going to type what I see on my iPhone’s screen… “Hector Berlioz Les Troyens Op. 29, H133, Act V: No. 38 “Vallon sonore””
For more of Zefram Cochrane see: Enterprise: Broken Bow and Regeneration, TOS: Metamorphosis and Lower Decks: Grounded. "I can't wait for you to get to Picard". Does she...not like him? I'm pretty sure that this is just Sarek's grandfather: no greats. Vulcans live a long time. Ah, Imzadi. Gotta' love Peter David. Cheers reactions? I'm in.
Hey great reaction and collab, I know that Roly Poly guy! Star Trek is awesome. Nice job Christina! Happy Memorial Day! I love your hair like that btw. 😊
Externally I love this version of the Enterprise, but the bridge of the D is visually more pleasing, less clutter and brighter. The E seems to have more consoles for extra tactical stations which makes sense for a more battleship oriented purpose, but there's just something aesthetically balanced about the bridge of the D. I do like the bridge colour scheme though with the red doors, it harkens back to previous movie bridges like The Undiscovered Country.
The date given by Data about the last time he had sex was more than just a throwaway joke. It's a reference to Tasha Yar and the first season episode The Naked Now. The episode was aired in 1987, and First Contact was released in 1996. Strangely, the dates given are almost exactly 6 months off from the airing date of The Naked Now and the release date of First Contact. It makes me wonder if First Contact was originally supposed to be released around Memorial Day 1996(where the dates would have lined up reasonably closely), but was later rescheduled for a November release date and they never fixed the script. Data's line: 8 years, 7 months, 16 days Real world: 9 years, 1 month, 17 days
Have you watched The Orville? All I can say for anyone who hasn't seen it but loves TNG, they need to see it! At least for the way it feels, it's almost like getting more episodes of TNG. It's not a parody, it's a heartfelt homage, but it doesn’t retread too much. It brings great new sci-fi/space opera stories to the table, it's just that they feel like they'd fit perfectly in TNG.
Remember, the "red shirts" don't wear red in this era. In TOS, red uniforms were worn by security personnel, but from TNG onward, they wore gold/yellow. So, a disposable character would most likely be wearing that.
Well my favorite Enterprise is the Foxtrot, so to speak, but I mainly love it from Star Trek Online, and all I shall say is that that timeline doesn't appear to gel with TV/Movie canon. I just _love_ the Odyssey class though; not so much that I ever _flew_ it in STO because I like the Defiant-like ships and the Akira-class variants more but... seriously.
I know part of the reason the Enterprise D was destroyed, outside of what I believe was a mandate, was due to how difficult it was to shoot with the model, but I’ve come to miss it in the TNG flicks as I’ve gotten older. It’s really grown on me over the years and is now my number 2 starship design under the constitution refit.
I'm with you! Constitution refit Enterprise/Enterprise A > Enterprise D > NSEA Protector (from Galaxyquest) > Enterprise B > Enterprise C > Enterprise E > Enterprise NX 01
There's also the problem with different aspect ratios. Once you know to look for it, it's quickly apparent which hero ships were designed for 4:3 TV and which were designed for 16:9 widescreen film/TV. 4:3 - TOS, Ent-D, Ent-C, Defiant, Voyager - all are somewhat stubby 16:9 - Ent-refit/A, Miranda/Reliant, Ent-B/Excelsior, Ent-E, NX-01, Discovery, SNW-Ent - all tend to be long and sleek I tend to prefer the widescreen versions, so my Ent list is: Ent-A, Ent-E, SNW Ent, Ent-B, NX refit, Ent-C, NX, Ent-D, TOS
"What happens if you get to the Enterprise-Z?" Well... honestly, they never should have added letters to begin with. The only time the letters made sense was with the 1701-A, because it was still of the same hull type as the 1701 (first production-line ship of the 17th starship class) The name should always be just "Enterprise", and if they are going to establish some tradition with the numbering, it should have simply been the -01 For example, rather than 1701-B, the Excelsior-class Enterprise should have instead followed the Excelsior NX-2000 as the first production model of its class, NCC-2001 Then, about a half century later, the Ambassador-class Enterprise to follow should have been NCC-10501 instead of NCC-1701-C, and so forth All that said, it would have retroactively fixed the problem if the later (or rather, earlier) original Enterprise being NX-01 There is simply no real world example of any vessel of any kind getting letters added to their registry just because they carry the same name (like the aircraft carriers named Enterprise being CV-6, CVN-65, and soon CVN-80), nor was there any precedent in any Star Trek up to that point of letters added to the registry either. I imagine an alternate timeline where either Voyage Home ended with a different starship reveal, where instead of passing by the Excelsior, it instead panned down to see the Excelsior name replaced with the name Enterprise - or as Kirk and crew get their new Enterprise, the "Next Generation" existed at the same time, and they were instead the crew of the Excelsior (still Jean Luc Picard, Riker, Data, Troi and all the rest, but simply being in the 23rd Century rather than the 24th), then you'd have all the opportunity in the world for TOS cast cameos without having to have some timey wimey contrivance to get them involved.
It's unfortunate they didn't give Marina Sertis more comic relief lines in TNG, Troy would have been so more valuable, she is so naturally funny, and sardonic!
Loved this your reactions are so much better with another person, more animated and input lively well done usually you are very quiet and not much said THIS was great you came alive! maybe watch with your husband sometime
I wish they made a better show out of Picard instead of killing too many interesting characters and opening more plot than they could finish satisfyingly in 10 episodes -.- but we all love Jean-Luc
Gotta respectfully disagree, dicovery, picard season 1 and 2 are absolute chores to watch and insufferable. Snw, prodigy, lower decks, picard season 3 are freaking amazing
@@edwardpate6128maybe not. It goes against TOS and leads to the horrible ENTERPRISE show. In TOS Cochrane was normal looking and DISCOVERED the space warp. Not how it is here with earth being late to the party.
Thank you. The scene where Picard et. al. are try to release the main deflector dish and they rearrange the glowing 'cards' maybe be a reference early computing. Early computers were programmed by re-configuring physical parts in a similar way.
Oh that's right. The big machines that took up a whole room. That makes sense. I always find it fascinating that the crew just knows all that stuff like where the cards need to go. They are super smart!
Jerry Goldsmith was the best! So nice to see him recognized!
The workload for scoring this was pretty high, so he asked his son Joel to help. He did a great deal of the Borg music, and went on to score a lot of Stargate SG-1. Both died way too young.
Yes, Voyager was airing its second season when this was released. Bob invoking De to improvise, "I'm a doctor, not a ..." during one of his auditions for Voyager is one of the things that helped him get cast.
I imagine that using the EMH here was a way for Paramount to promote Voyager and, by extension, UPN (which was also relatively new)
Also, whales are mammals, not fish. * shakes fist at cloud *
Also, that is like Marina Sirtis at most convention panels ... which is delightful.
A Vulcan dancing? Voyager!
i love this movie, it is my personal favorited Star Trek Movie, was awesome to see in Cinema
CochranE can be seen as a commentary about Gene Roddenberry - a normal man trying to make a few bucks treated as a visionary and hero.
The V'ger nebula sound was done with a blaster beam, a concept instrument based on a long metal beam (~5m/15ft) with steel wires mounted on it under tension, with electric guitar pickups to register the vibration of the wires and turn them into sound. It's played by striking the wires with anything you have: fingers, pipes, rods, sticks,... artillery shells... Essentially an electric guitar on steroids. The refined version mostly heard was built and patented by former child actor Craig Huxley (he appeared twice in TOS as a kid!), who also performed it in the Star Trek movie scores, including here. Goldsmith was always eager to incorporate strange instruments and noise makers into his scores. Arthur Morton, his long-time orchestrator, once said, after there was some strange sound in the studio: "Find out what makes that noise, then give it to Jerry."
Some funny observations about this movie:
Dr. Crusher says "I swore I'd never use one of these" before activating the EMH. Well, yeah, that's kind of the point! The EMH is only there in case all the ship's medical staff dies!
We know from both TNG and Voyager that Borg drones separated from the collective eventually regain their individuality. So what happened to the Borg who got thrown into space during the big action scene on the outside of the ship? I mean, they probably fell into Earth's gravity and burned up, but did they regain their self-awareness before they did? I hope not! Kind of horrifying to think about. :P
Why are Borg plans so convoluted? Why didn't they just travel back in time before they battled a hundred Federation ships? Do it before the Federation even knows what they're doing and their plan probably can't fail! It's ok, though. I know if they did it that way, there wouldn't be a movie. :P
Also, the helmsman on the bridge of the Defiant in the opening battle scene is Adam Scott.
Also, one of my favorite lines in this movie is Data's: "Believing oneself to be perfect is often the sign of a delusional mind."
The maitre'd in the holodeck was Ethan Phillips... Neelix without makeup.
When they referenced the First Contact theme in Lower Decks, I had to cry.
TNG never really had it's own unique theme. The intro theme you hear was simply recycled from Star Trek The Motion Picture. The theme in this movie is perfect for TNG and they even use it as the them for Picard Season 3, which might as well be TNG Season 8.
I'm with you Christina when it comes to "eye things"!
The "Borg sounds swedish" line from Lilly is a reference to Bjorn Borg, a famous swedish tennis player from the 70's and 80's.
This and "The Voyage Home" are my two favorite Star Trek movies.
This movie I watched 50 times at least, absolutely love it
From early in your conversation, I highly, HIGHLY recommend "The Secret of NIMH." Still one of the best animated kids' movies to this day (one of my childhood faves) Goldsmith goes nuts on that score, and it had such beautiful, sparkling visuals and a heart-felt story with likeable characters. I'll bet any amount of money you'll love Secret of NIMH Ollie. Yes, Jerry scored the first Alien movie as well.
Gates McFadden...In her 70s and looks GREAT! Oh,she helped the Muppets...She was in The Great Muppets Takes Manhattan movie.
Christina knew right away it wasn't Bizet. She's a true trekkie! :) 20:00 After TOS ended, security / engineering turned from red into yellow, so the yellows usually die in TNG and after. :)
I love this movie and I love voyager. I played an ex Borg for 3 years in a star trek campaign. super fun to play and explore. found you though olli.
It was great seeing the two of you react to this one together. I remember when you first brought him to our attention. You’ve both grown into doing excellent jobs with your reaction videos. My favorite moments were…
“Why’d they call him Locutus? He’s not even cute.” 😄 It was perfectly corny and I appreciate that. 😁 The other moment wad when you both shared your regular sign off. Brilliant job by the both of you. 👏👏👏
Thanks!! This was a perfectly Trek-y time. So glad you joined us :)
The sick bay is actually the sick bay on Voyager just redressed.
Makes sense, like the bridge modules they were probably modular units fitted in so similar in spec for similar era ships.
At least that's my lore hypothesis.
"Assimilate this!"
Hey Ollie! 😁
Some people say the idea of a Borg Queen ruins the Borg. I disagree. She doesn't control the Borg, she is the Borg. She is the expression of the Borg. She's the face of the Borg. Much like Locutus, she is the focal point of interaction. If you think of the Borg Queen in those terms, she makes sense.
Fun Fact: At the end of filming, actor and director Jonathan Frakes got the nickname "Two-Takes Frakes" because of the efficiency of his style.
Absolute Defiant Fact: The U.S.S. Defiant, introduced on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine (1993), was built for the sole purpose of fighting and defeating the Borg. This film features the only time the ship fights the Borg.
Family Affair Fact: Although his name is never given in this film, according to Star Trek canon, the Vulcan who salutes Zefram Cochrane (James Cromwell) is named Solkar (Cully Fredricksen). As mentioned in Star Trek III: The Search For Spock (1984), Solkar is the grandfather of Sarek (Mark Lenard) and subsequently the great-grandfather of Spock (Leonard Nimoy).
Twelve Parsecs Fact: Industrial Light & Magic animators created several new classes of Federation starships for the huge CGI animation sequence against the Borg. Classes include the Akira, Sabre, Steamrunner, and others. In addition, the Industrial Light & Magic animators had a little fun with this by placing a shot of the Millennium Falcon from Star Wars in the battle, which can be seen in several DVD versions of this film. The scene showing this can easily be seen by going to the Star Trek fansite, Daystrom Institute Technical Library, and looking at the sixth and last image for the Akira-class starship. There, just under the Akira's port nacelle, you can see the Millennium Falcon just after she made a strafing run on the Borg Cube.
It's long been a popular fan theory that after the events of "Relics", Montgomery Scott was involved in the design of the Sovereign class and personally oversaw the construction of the Enterprise-E.
Someone knows thier ship classes. It was also fantastic to see the Defiant
I love when the cast of the next generation did a guest voice episode on family guy With stewie Creating a transporter Quahog
Christina and Ollie, here is a bit of trivia from TNG.
Do you know some of the scenes have ductwork with the letters GNDN? Those letters are for the set designers to help locate conduit housing power wires and water pipes, because the ones marked GNDN were cosmetic only, and the pipes "Go Nowhere, and Do Nothing"...GNDN. Look for them within scenes!
When Cocharine downs that shot of the bad stuff and he does the arm pump it is a direct channeling of the Jack Nicholson character from the 1968 film Easy Rider.
In the long history of Real Trek, the scene where the aliens are revealed to be Vulcans at the end is the most perfect, most genuinely heartfelt moment to me.
I remember watching this with my parents and sister, and hoping all the way up to the final reveal that they were going to be Vulcans. 🙂
Regarding borrowing music in films(specifically Star Trek), it's so weird to hear the final climax of Die Hard(outside the Nakatomi Building) where director McTiernan decided to use an unused track from Aliens(by James Horner) which is itself basically a reused excerpt from the climax of the Battle of the Mutara Nebula from Star Trek 2 - TWOK(also Horner).
Once you hear it, you can't unhear it.
Also slept with something over my ears, absolutely!!!
I enjoyed watching that with you two. Should do some more Trek collabs.
They did not use a single snippet of footage from Best of both Worlds, it's all new.
The opera is Les Troyens. The Trojans by Hector Berlioz.
Since my knowledge of opera is … wanting, I opened my copy of First Contact and gave my iPhone’s built-in music recognition a try… and this is what she came up with …
I’m going to type what I see on my iPhone’s screen…
“Hector Berlioz
Les Troyens
Op. 29, H133, Act V: No. 38 “Vallon sonore””
For more of Zefram Cochrane see: Enterprise: Broken Bow and Regeneration, TOS: Metamorphosis and Lower Decks: Grounded.
"I can't wait for you to get to Picard". Does she...not like him?
I'm pretty sure that this is just Sarek's grandfather: no greats. Vulcans live a long time.
Ah, Imzadi. Gotta' love Peter David.
Cheers reactions? I'm in.
Hey great reaction and collab, I know that Roly Poly guy! Star Trek is awesome. Nice job Christina! Happy Memorial Day! I love your hair like that btw. 😊
Externally I love this version of the Enterprise, but the bridge of the D is visually more pleasing, less clutter and brighter. The E seems to have more consoles for extra tactical stations which makes sense for a more battleship oriented purpose, but there's just something aesthetically balanced about the bridge of the D. I do like the bridge colour scheme though with the red doors, it harkens back to previous movie bridges like The Undiscovered Country.
The date given by Data about the last time he had sex was more than just a throwaway joke. It's a reference to Tasha Yar and the first season episode The Naked Now. The episode was aired in 1987, and First Contact was released in 1996.
Strangely, the dates given are almost exactly 6 months off from the airing date of The Naked Now and the release date of First Contact. It makes me wonder if First Contact was originally supposed to be released around Memorial Day 1996(where the dates would have lined up reasonably closely), but was later rescheduled for a November release date and they never fixed the script.
Data's line: 8 years, 7 months, 16 days
Real world: 9 years, 1 month, 17 days
This is one of my favorite Star Trek movies, mainly ones include time travel, No 4 with orig cast. Great reaction Chris.
Yep -- I love Voyage Home also. Love a good time travel plot as long as it doesn't jump the shark completely!
Have you watched The Orville?
All I can say for anyone who hasn't seen it but loves TNG, they need to see it! At least for the way it feels, it's almost like getting more episodes of TNG. It's not a parody, it's a heartfelt homage, but it doesn’t retread too much. It brings great new sci-fi/space opera stories to the table, it's just that they feel like they'd fit perfectly in TNG.
Orville, Galaxy Quest, Captain Starr, that one Black Mirror episode...I do love a Star Trek homage.
I have seen some of The Orville, yes, and it is great!!
This reaction, surprisingly came of as a painful joke. Glad for the effort
Remember, the "red shirts" don't wear red in this era. In TOS, red uniforms were worn by security personnel, but from TNG onward, they wore gold/yellow. So, a disposable character would most likely be wearing that.
A reverencing the Borg is sounding Swedish Comes from Tennis player bjorn Borg
Well my favorite Enterprise is the Foxtrot, so to speak, but I mainly love it from Star Trek Online, and all I shall say is that that timeline doesn't appear to gel with TV/Movie canon. I just _love_ the Odyssey class though; not so much that I ever _flew_ it in STO because I like the Defiant-like ships and the Akira-class variants more but... seriously.
I know part of the reason the Enterprise D was destroyed, outside of what I believe was a mandate, was due to how difficult it was to shoot with the model, but I’ve come to miss it in the TNG flicks as I’ve gotten older. It’s really grown on me over the years and is now my number 2 starship design under the constitution refit.
I'm with you!
Constitution refit Enterprise/Enterprise A > Enterprise D > NSEA Protector (from Galaxyquest) > Enterprise B > Enterprise C > Enterprise E > Enterprise NX 01
I miss Ent-D too!
@@okchristina Sure makes a great re-emergence in Picard SIII
There's also the problem with different aspect ratios. Once you know to look for it, it's quickly apparent which hero ships were designed for 4:3 TV and which were designed for 16:9 widescreen film/TV.
4:3 - TOS, Ent-D, Ent-C, Defiant, Voyager - all are somewhat stubby
16:9 - Ent-refit/A, Miranda/Reliant, Ent-B/Excelsior, Ent-E, NX-01, Discovery, SNW-Ent - all tend to be long and sleek
I tend to prefer the widescreen versions, so my Ent list is: Ent-A, Ent-E, SNW Ent, Ent-B, NX refit, Ent-C, NX, Ent-D, TOS
Robert Picardo is awesome.
“Wrath of Khan” is the best of all of the movies.
"What happens if you get to the Enterprise-Z?"
Well... honestly, they never should have added letters to begin with. The only time the letters made sense was with the 1701-A, because it was still of the same hull type as the 1701 (first production-line ship of the 17th starship class)
The name should always be just "Enterprise", and if they are going to establish some tradition with the numbering, it should have simply been the -01
For example, rather than 1701-B, the Excelsior-class Enterprise should have instead followed the Excelsior NX-2000 as the first production model of its class, NCC-2001
Then, about a half century later, the Ambassador-class Enterprise to follow should have been NCC-10501 instead of NCC-1701-C, and so forth
All that said, it would have retroactively fixed the problem if the later (or rather, earlier) original Enterprise being NX-01
There is simply no real world example of any vessel of any kind getting letters added to their registry just because they carry the same name (like the aircraft carriers named Enterprise being CV-6, CVN-65, and soon CVN-80), nor was there any precedent in any Star Trek up to that point of letters added to the registry either.
I imagine an alternate timeline where either Voyage Home ended with a different starship reveal, where instead of passing by the Excelsior, it instead panned down to see the Excelsior name replaced with the name Enterprise - or as Kirk and crew get their new Enterprise, the "Next Generation" existed at the same time, and they were instead the crew of the Excelsior (still Jean Luc Picard, Riker, Data, Troi and all the rest, but simply being in the 23rd Century rather than the 24th), then you'd have all the opportunity in the world for TOS cast cameos without having to have some timey wimey contrivance to get them involved.
It's unfortunate they didn't give Marina Sertis more comic relief lines in TNG, Troy would have been so more valuable, she is so naturally funny, and sardonic!
Loved this your reactions are so much better with another person, more animated and input lively well done usually you are very quiet and not much said THIS was great you came alive! maybe watch with your husband sometime
I think it's mainly just my excitement for Trek :) LOL
New subscriber. 🖖🖖🏻🖖🏼🖖🏽🖖🏾🖖🏿
This chick looks like Kim from BETTER CALL SAUL
Had to look it up --- you're right! Crazy!!
2009?
1996
I wish they made a better show out of Picard instead of killing too many interesting characters and opening more plot than they could finish satisfyingly in 10 episodes -.- but we all love Jean-Luc
You should react to Orgazmo
Didn’t she just say “ Enough Talking “
Teeth? The evacuation of the Enterprise? Ugh
Gotta respectfully disagree, dicovery, picard season 1 and 2 are absolute chores to watch and insufferable. Snw, prodigy, lower decks, picard season 3 are freaking amazing
I don’t like the Cochrane stuff and how they handled first contact in this movie
You're in the minority on that one.
@@edwardpate6128maybe not. It goes against TOS and leads to the horrible ENTERPRISE show. In TOS Cochrane was normal looking and DISCOVERED the space warp. Not how it is here with earth being late to the party.
You missed out star trek generations this is the second of the next generation franchise I'll pass on the star trek reaction's.
Star trek the motion picture...is the best..and only one to react on...ya Goofy m8te from Australia
11:48 😅
Thank you.
The scene where Picard et. al. are try to release the main deflector dish and they rearrange the glowing 'cards' maybe be a reference early computing. Early computers were programmed by re-configuring physical parts in a similar way.
It's as good a guess as any as to how one will reprogram a 24th century starship's main deflector dish to jettison...
Oh that's right. The big machines that took up a whole room. That makes sense. I always find it fascinating that the crew just knows all that stuff like where the cards need to go. They are super smart!