This is a 2018 M8 Softail. Over the years Harley has used many variations of this procedure. Check your manual for the specific procedure for Your Bike.
I have seen a few of these videos, and none of them comment (they hint at...but no actual comment) that if your fob is dead or lost, you CANNOT use these steps to find out what your pin is or change it - you MUST have your working fob present for those two steps. The bike automatically defaults to Enter Pin and won't let you progress farther until the pin is entered correctly. Thanks for the video, guys!
Great comment. Glad you liked the video. Can't speak to other videos, but we were pretty crystal clear that you had to have an operating FOB present to be able to find out what your PIN is.
Rode off without my fob…DAMN!! Remembering this video, I pulled t up, followed the instructions and was riding away in about 2 minutes. I appreciate the work you gentlemen are putting in here. You were a life saver today. Peace out and I’m back at the house installing my new Transformer breather and DK Customs high flow air cleaner.
Glad it helped! Thanks for the good words. Very cool on the Transformer and A/C. We appreciate your business and I believe you are going to be well pleased with those parts.👍
@@DKCustomProducts You are correct sir. I was very pleased with the quality of the Transformer and air cleaner. I was already running a DK Customs catch can. The transformer allowed me to clean up the hoses and mounting bracket to hanging the catch can right under the transformer for a very clean look. Also the instructions were very detailed and everything necessary was in the kit. Good job staff at DK Customs.
Wish I seen this a couple of days ago. I had it happen to me but lucky replacing the battery in the fob got me back going. Now I'm going out here to find mind pin and write it down for future needs
Great video. Started my Road Glide in the garage with fob in my jacket pocket which stayed hanging on the hook in the garage. Four miles later I shut the bike off and then discovered the joy of a long walk home in motorcycle boots. I am going to do what you guys say here so that doesn't happen again.
Great info on PIN . This will work is Fob battery is dead or you lose your key. But there is one more caveat that is extremely important for all this to work. YOU HAVE TO LEAVE THE IGNITION UNLOCKED if you lose your key or for some reason can’t find it . The PIN will not unlock your ignition!!! So I never lock my ignition unless I’m home or bike is in the garage. By not locking my ignition that’s what my insurance is for in case of theft. You have to have the key to unlock the ignition.
Great Points! Yes, on models with a fork lock, and/or and ignition lock, the PIN will NOT unlock those. They PIN Only functions to override the Security System in case you do not have a functioning FOB. Thank you for commenting! KP
Good review! I bought my bike used and wanted to change the PIN once I learned about it. But it's been months (couple years?) since I last did this. Good Reminder! Thanks!
I carry a spare fob battery for my 07' Fatboy. I also have my security pin in my wallet. I change the fob battery yearly. Thanks for the good information.
If you only use this once it will be worth the trouble to prepare for it! No way am I going to remember the steps as its just not something you do everyday. I was at a Rally in Northern Ontario and the festival grounds were home to this huge Micro Wave tower which was not intrusive, but.......yep if you guessed...not one single key fob bike would start because the tower interfered with the fob signal. It was a word of mouth "wtf is up with all the bikes not starting" and it didn't take long before people figured it must be the tower. The old kick start/key guy's were laughing at us! It was so hilarious at the time (I can say that now). I had to pull out my instructions and was able to get started without issue. Then we shared our instructions with others there to try and help out. I still laugh when I think about it and am so glad I had the wherewithal to stash my pin/instructions on me. 😅
Whoa, that's crazy that a MW Tower would do that. Glad you had your "cheat sheet" with you and were able to get your bike started and help others. Thank you for sharing. 👍
Back in 2015, when I bought my Ultra Limited there were two glossy tear-out wallet cards in the back of the owners manual. They allowed space for you to write your PIN with a sharpie, and included instructions for how to activate and enter the PIN. I still have the card in my wallet today.
More good info from yall. I know from experience. I was three hours away from my fob.But I had it in my wallet with the instructions. Boy was I glad I had it.
Just FYI, be careful about wiggling or moving the bike without the FOB even if you have the pincode memorized. If you move the bike enough and the FOB isnt in range, the bike will go into a mode where it wont let you put the pin in, and will reset the ignition repeatedly, and even if you do manage to put the pin in intime, the bike will still reset back to security mode. I found this out the hard way when I was plugging a tire that got a screw in it. I bright the plugs out, and put one in and didnt have the fob on me the entire time. Went to turn the bike on and... it kept resetting over and over again, no matter how may times I toggled the switch. I went back grabbed the keyfob, keyfob in range the self disabling mode went away and the bike started. Turned the bike off set the keys down 10 feet away, and then toggled the switch and then I put the pin in and started it that way. Im not sure why it does this but it's super annoying.
Good point. Thanks for adding this info here. Appreciate it. I believe it does this as part of the security...if the bike is messed with enough, without the FOB present or the PIN being punched in, it disables the bike, making it less attractive to steal.
Hi all! I believe this is what's happening to my bike. I can't seem to get it started. The battery is working, and I changed batteries in fobs. It doesn't display my security code, and when I reset , it still won't turn on.
This is very good to know. Have an Electra glide and plan on long trips. I would be in a very bad situation if I had this happen and no clue what to do. Thank you very much sir.
Between the transport mode and the lost key procedure there is just too much to try and remember. I like the idea Kevin of copying the manual and saving the copy on the bike.
Great video guys, both V Rod’s and the Road King that I bought came with no pins. This was a great idea for a video for me to change them and know how to start the bike without the fob. Thank you
You guys are always educating us on important issues that sometimes the dealer forgets to go over when you purchase a bike. I know I can count on DK to give good and timely information. Thanks so much guys! P. S. The floorboard extensions Really do give you so much more room. 👍
Thanks for the kind words, glad you are finding the videos useful. 👍 Yeah, amazing something so small can make such a difference. We appreciate your business and glad to hear you are enjoying that extra room!
Good info as always, At the end of the owners manual there is a card that can be placed into a wallet and it has a spot to write down your pin and has how to put your bike in transport mode. Not sure when Harley started putting those cards in the back of the manual.
Hey guys great video perfect timing with Spring here and all. I loved the suggestion of Xeroxing the manual. I took it one step further. In addition to copying and pasting the FOB info from the manual and putting it into a doc, I printed it out and stored the document in my notes app on my iPhone. So now I am covered with an analog printed out sheet and a digital copy. Better safe than sorry. Oh did I mention that I put the PIN only in my notes app :-) Keep these videos coming. P.S. Love your products. Just recently installed an external breather and a catch can to my 2019 FLHXS.
I can't tell you guys HOW MUCH I appreciate what you BOTH do for our riding brothers & sister. ALL your products are well worth it to add to our HD's. My TriGlide has most EVERYTHING that you produce for them...Again, I can't THANK you enough for your PRODUCTS and KNOWLEDGE that you off us.. My dealer NEVER went over the PIN start...
Thank you for the kind words, glad this video was helpful. We Appreciate your business, and are very happy to hear that you are pleased with the parts. Thank you! 👍
This is the first bike I've had with a fob... I don't know what my pin is. I do keep an extra battery in my tool bag. But I would be shit outta luck if I lose the fob😳 Thanks fellas
Right on guys. Love all your vids. I’d love to buy some of your stuff but the freight charges and transport chain delays to Australia are a downer for me.
Deliveries are happening pretty quickly to Australia. We ship there most everyday via UPS and it is working well. Forget about it with the postal service, still lots of delays. BUT, you are correct, it is pretty expensive. We have a Distributor in Australia....Rollies Speed Shop. They may have what you want, if not, they can get it.
Good advice, but it is as you guys said definitely different between the years because my 06 Road King doesn't even show the numbers on the odometer it shows by the lights on the dash flashing the number.. kind of a pain in back side.
Lost the FOB for my Road King. Had to do the *turn signal dance* for a week before I could get down to the dealer for a new one. I can do the PIN start in my sleep.
I just bought a 2016 Lowrider, educating myself on the electrical. Thanks. My question is if the fob is gone forever or I buy an extra fob, does that involve a software download?
If the FOB is gone forever and you know the code, you can use that indefinitely. If you know the code, & you just want a new fob, it has to be "married" to the bike at the Dealership with their equipment. If you don't know the code, you will have to purchase an entire new security module with matching FOB's. It needs to be installed at a Dealership.
I ran into a couple who were riding their used bike at Tequamenon Falls, Michigan. They lost the key fob and didn't have the pin. Probably spent two days and a thousand dollars getting to the nearest dealer and getting what they needed.
I know a guy who bought a brand new heritage softail and lost his fob after about 2 weeks of ownership! His bike sat for a couple of days while he came to terms with buying a new fob. Just before he pulled the trigger his dad came over for something, and was messing with the bike and noticed the handlebars were locked and thought, “no way. Surely he’s checked there?” Looks down at the little lock for the handlebars and……yep….nuff said. He was riding again a few minutes later!
Great advice guys. I did create my own PIN soon after purchasing my sport glide new in 2018 but just photocopied the instructions as per Kevin’s recommendation. Just curious, does Harley supply only one fob with new bikes now? I received two with my 2018.
Glad you like the video! Thanks for the comment. 👍 Yes, a couple of years ago HD started including only ONE FOB with the bikes...now, if you want a second one, you need to give them more $$$. "Shrinkflation"
Great got to do this. I was working on mine and then tried to start it. Nope thought it was an ignition or fuel problem. He'll I rode the bike 2 days before no problems starting. Don't get why it happened
The one thing I do religiously with my FOB is to change the battery in each one every year, at the same exact time. Never had that fail yet....at least when the FOB is by the bike.
Now, I have done what a few others have done here....start up with FOB in close enough proximity to start, but get somewhere, and then DOH!!! For whatever reason, mine (09 Ultra) is extremely touchy on code entry, and even the dealership had to "play" a bit to get it reset for me. I did have my son get my FOB to get moving in this instance, and went to dealership at later time.
Great info for riders with newer bikes that use the fob. I change my code # right off as I didn’t want to be stranded with a loss fob. I also carry extra battery for fob, which I did use recently after fueling up. A weak battery in fob may get you started, on that day I did have to hold fob at my crotch when I left house. At the gas station it didn’t work, minutes later I was rolling with new batt. One question : is it true or false that if you inter wrong code does it lock system after 3 wrong try’s Thanks for a response y
Yes, having an extra battery is a good idea. Thanks! 👍 I do believe some bikes are set up to lock up for X period of time after multiple tries of the wrong PIN. However, we have also seen the wrong PIN entered many more times than 3 and it did not lock up the system.
I photographed the procedure and edited the photo to include the pin number and I keep the photo on my phone. If something happens, I can just pull up that image on my phone and I'm good to go.
Over the years Harley has used many variations of this procedure. Check your manual for the specific procedure for Your Bike and figure out your pin so that your FOB will not be needed unless you want it. Thanks for commenting! 👍 Feel free to contact us with any questions or concerns you might have: Support@DKCustomProducts.com 662-252-8828
@@DKCustomProducts One night during a long ride I stopped for a cup of coffee and upon leaving my bike no longer recognized its own fob and refused to start without the PIN. Even using the PIN it took multiple attempts before finally starting. The dealer told me it was fairly common for TSSM to fail in that way and I would have to bring the bike in, have a new TSSM installed with fobs programmed to it by HD. So I bought and installed the TSSM myself without programming any fobs to it.
@@j.d.thompson3505 Wow! Glad you were not stranded, and you got it taken care of. TSSM's do fail, but it is NOT common as your dealer indicated. Out of thousands and thousands of bikes we've worked with, I can count on one hand the number of times I've heard of the TSSM failing.
That's why I'll take good old fashioned keys. All of the rest of my bikes have 'em.. Real simple. I wasn't even told by the dealer about my new LRS's pin #. Guess I'm going back to these guys again. Why's everything so different with these bikes. Even the way you check the oil. Possible sumping probs. of the big 117. Love this bike, but I have some questions to be answered. 25 grand and 1 fob. No tool kit. WTH?
Yep, the more electronics, the more potential for not so easy problems to solve. Many folks like the convenience of the latest amenities, but those come with their own set of challenges. Here is a video of another Catch-22 HD has been challenged with- ruclips.net/video/N0kLaVQhbW4/видео.html Hope you write HD Corporate and get some answers to your questions. Thanks for watching and your comment.
I just bought a used dyna 35 anniversary 2006 and I don’t have the key fob never got one and my bike starts and run just fine, did this model come without the key fob ?
I bought a used 2005 Dyna FXDI from a used bike dealer and it only had 1 fob. The Dyna was delivered and I did not get the pin number. I email the sales person and he said you just click the fob button 4 times and its armed, to dis arm it, click the button 4 times again. I decided not to arm it and recently the bike wouldn't crank over/battery at 13.5V. I change the fob battery and at first it didn't work and so I tapped the fob and then it cranked right over and started up. I am guessing the fob is worn out. Should I go to a Harley dealer and buy a new fob?
You will have to have a good working FOB to find out what your pin is. Over the years Harley has used many variations of this procedure. Check your manual for the specific procedure for Your Bike and figure out your pin so that your FOB will not be needed unless you want it. Thanks for commenting! 👍 Feel free to contact us with any questions or concerns you might have: Support@DKCustomProducts.com 662-252-8828
This is a 2018 M8 Softail. Over the years Harley has used many variations of this procedure. Check your manual for the specific procedure for Your Bike.
Being able to change the PIN is applicable to all. How to change the PIN varies from bike to bike and year to year. Instructions will be in your manual.
Hi so I lost my fob before changing the code then retrieve my fob but it's damaged beyond repair next step in retrieving code or new fob any suggestions much appreciated
If you do not have an operational FOB, and you do not know the code...I believe the only thing you can do is get a new security module with accompanying FOB(s). I have heard that there is a device out there that can read the security module you have now and give you the code...but I have never seen one, nor have I heard of a dealership having one. You can call Jamie at J&T V-Twin Repair & Mobile Dyno- 901-584-5760. He is the guy I heard that has (or knows of) the device that can do this.
My manual says to push left blinker 3 times. I've tried both 2 and 3 but nothing works. Now I'm worried about losing my stupid fob and being sol. 08 street glide
Try pushing the run/off button faster before doing the left and then right blinker. If it does not work, I would take a ride to the Dealership and see if they can do it, and if not, what they propose the solution is.
Over the years Harley has used many variations of this procedure. Check your manual for the specific procedure for Your Bike. Here's a video of a 2014 Twin Cam- ruclips.net/video/sOia3VBYnWg/видео.html Thank you for commenting! MB
I tried this with my 2007 Softail and it doesn't seem to bring up a PIN. When I go through the sequence, the turn signals come on when I push those and nothing changes on the LED screen. If I cycle through the LED options, it only shows mileage, a mileage trip, and the clock. Perhaps the 2007 models didn't use a PIN? I just changed the FOB battery and that is working fine.
Every year can be a bit different procedure. Grab your manual and check out what the exact sequence is for your bike. 👍 If it has a FOB it has security and should have a PIN to operate the bike in case of FOB failure or loss.
This is a 2018 M8 Softail. Over the years Harley has used many variations of this procedure. Check your manual for the specific procedure for Your Bike.
I believe the only thing you can do is get a new security module with accompanying FOB(s). I have heard that there is a device out there that can read the security module you have now and give you the code...but I have never seen one, nor have I heard of a dealership having one. You can call Jamie at J&T V-Twin Repair & Mobile Dyno- 901-584-5760. He is the guy I heard that has (or knows of) the device that can do this.
DK is correct,unless you can find a dealer that has the device that can tap in and read your pin you will have to buy a new security system and have it installed😮
Look at your manual for the specific steps on your year/model bike. Hopefully you have a functioning FOB since you don't know your PIN. With it (a FOB) you will be able to set a new PIN.
Can anyone turn on the start button and go through the sequence you described and find out my pin? What good is having a specific pin if someone can go through that process and get my pin. Thank for the info.
Have you looked in your owners manual? If you have a key fob, I cannot imagine that there is not a way to enter a PIN. Harley has used a variety of different methods over the years and I am not sure which method is used on a 2010 Dyna....and, it may even vary from one Dyna model to another, even within the same model year. Sorry could not be more help. If you do look in your manual and find out, if you could share it here so that other could read, that would be great. 👍
@@DKCustomProducts thanks for the response. I bought the bike wrecked at an auction. NO key, no fob, no manual. Harley dealer said i need the fob which are on backorder for a year or so.. They said they can disable the security system for around 200 until then. Guess I am stuck unless i want to pay their ransom..
@@rebjimj.e.4119 Yeah, if you had the FOB you could get the book and find out how to reprogram the PIN to one that you know. That sucks big time that they are on backorder for a year. They are right, disable the security module and you will still need a key to turn it on.
Sorry to hear that. There is a way to get into the PIN if you do not have them. I don't know of any HD Dealerships that have the Software...they generally want to sell you a whole new security module. Give Jamie a call at 901-584-5760 and he should be able to help you.
It should be in your manual, but if the way shown in this video does not work, then this may. Turn ignition key on and off 3 times and pressing turn signal switches, should be in your owners manual. The old pin will show up in the odometer window.
Over the years Harley has used many variations of this procedure. Check your manual for the specific procedure for Your Bike. This still is may not be the exact procedure for your bike but here is a video fort a 2014 Twin Cam- ruclips.net/video/sOia3VBYnWg/видео.html Thank you for commenting! MB
Depending on your model, it could be as simple as swapping your Turn Signal module (doubles as security system) with a TSM not equipped with the key FOB feature. May be cheaper though to visit a dealer and have them use their digital tech tool to disable the FOB
I have heard of a device that will let a person retrieve the PIN. It is Not something that most dealerships have. Most dealerships will tell you that they cannot retrieve the PIN and that the only solution is to get a new Security Module.
There is a device to retrieve a PIN without the FOB but I have not seen a dealer that has the device. Buy an extra FoB and have it programmed and/or keep your pin handy😊
@@DKCustomProducts it does indeed but I've followed the steps several times to no avail. Apparently you have to press the buttons quickly for it to work but I won't get chance to try it out for a couple of weeks time.
@@robertprosser6856 Back at you from Rural Mississippi. 👍 I doubt it, but it is possible that the UK version is different than the USA version. I know some other things are different.
You can Ride your bike as far as you want...when you enter the PIN it is "unlocks" the bike the same as if you had the FOB. Of course, every time you shut it off, you have to enter the PIN again, if you have no FOB. 👍
This video is on a 2018 M8 Softail. Over the years Harley has used many variations of this procedure. Check your manual for the specific procedure for Your Bike. Thank you for commenting! 👍 MB
Now what is the sense on changing your pin. If all it takes is the thief to do what you did to see what the pin is and then go through the process of entering the pin and stealing your bike....that boggles my mind.
You have to have the Key Fob to change the PIN. If you don't let other folks know your pin, they cannot use that PIN to steal your bike. If you, or a thief have the key fob, neither of you need to enter the PIN to start the bike. Don't give your keys or your PIN to a thief.
@@DKCustomProducts the title of the video is "how to start your Harley without the key fob". If you know the code and the fork isn't locked you're in. You don't have to change the code, you just have to know it.
Dunno why it would have a key fob for no reason. Easy way to find out....put the fob 50 yards away and see if the bike will start without it being there. KP
These videos are stupid. You have your pin you know how to start your bike. I bought a 2013 Sportster. It's been through four other people. I need to know how to start it without a key fob and no pin number. It's someone put out a video of how to bypass this stupid system. Thank you.
There is no way to defeat the system. If you have no fob and don't know the PIN, you will need to get a new security module with matching fobs. You can search for the video you want til your hearts content...they don't exist, because what you want is not possible. There is rumor that someone has made a module that will break into the security system, but I have not talked to anyone that has actually used it.
Try turning on your ignition and then immediately and quickly hold both L and R turn signals at the same time.. My 08 Softail uses this procedure. Every year can be a bit different procedure. Grab your manual and check out what the exact sequence is for your bike. 👍 If it has a FOB it has security and should have a PIN to operate the bike in case of FOB failure or loss.
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This is a 2018 M8 Softail. Over the years Harley has used many variations of this procedure. Check your manual for the specific procedure for Your Bike.
i realize you know the steps by memory, but we dont, you could make a diagram instead of fast explaining, but didnt!
04 Ultraglide pin won't display and info in manual does not tell you how
I have seen a few of these videos, and none of them comment (they hint at...but no actual comment) that if your fob is dead or lost, you CANNOT use these steps to find out what your pin is or change it - you MUST have your working fob present for those two steps. The bike automatically defaults to Enter Pin and won't let you progress farther until the pin is entered correctly. Thanks for the video, guys!
Great comment. Glad you liked the video.
Can't speak to other videos, but we were pretty crystal clear that you had to have an operating FOB present to be able to find out what your PIN is.
Rode off without my fob…DAMN!! Remembering this video, I pulled t up, followed the instructions and was riding away in about 2 minutes.
I appreciate the work you gentlemen are putting in here. You were a life saver today.
Peace out and I’m back at the house installing my new Transformer breather and DK Customs high flow air cleaner.
Glad it helped! Thanks for the good words.
Very cool on the Transformer and A/C. We appreciate your business and I believe you are going to be well pleased with those parts.👍
@@DKCustomProducts You are correct sir. I was very pleased with the quality of the Transformer and air cleaner. I was already running a DK Customs catch can. The transformer allowed me to clean up the hoses and mounting bracket to hanging the catch can right under the transformer for a very clean look. Also the instructions were very detailed and everything necessary was in the kit. Good job staff at DK Customs.
@@cornbread8246 Awesome, thank you for your feedback & your business! We really appreciate it!
This will be a saved video. A must have. Thanks guys for the work you are putting in here.
Thank you for the kind words. Glad you found the video useful. 👍
Wish I seen this a couple of days ago. I had it happen to me but lucky replacing the battery in the fob got me back going. Now I'm going out here to find mind pin and write it down for future needs
Yeah, definitely want to know what the PIN is. Then if FOB quits working (not a battery issue) or is lost, you can still ride! 👍
Great video. Started my Road Glide in the garage with fob in my jacket pocket which stayed hanging on the hook in the garage. Four miles later I shut the bike off and then discovered the joy of a long walk home in motorcycle boots. I am going to do what you guys say here so that doesn't happen again.
Yeah, motorcycle boots are not made for walking!
Thanks for the comment, good to hear you found the video useful. 👍
Not funny but yeah that’s funny 🤣🤣🤣
Great info on PIN .
This will work is Fob battery is dead or you lose your key.
But there is one more caveat that is extremely important for all this to work.
YOU HAVE TO LEAVE THE IGNITION UNLOCKED if you lose your key or for some reason can’t find it .
The PIN will not unlock your ignition!!!
So I never lock my ignition unless I’m home or bike is in the garage.
By not locking my ignition that’s what my insurance is for in case of theft.
You have to have the key to unlock the ignition.
Great Points!
Yes, on models with a fork lock, and/or and ignition lock, the PIN will NOT unlock those. They PIN Only functions to override the Security System in case you do not have a functioning FOB.
Thank you for commenting! KP
Good review! I bought my bike used and wanted to change the PIN once I learned about it. But it's been months (couple years?) since I last did this. Good Reminder! Thanks!
Glad it was helpful! 👍
I carry a spare fob battery for my 07' Fatboy. I also have my security pin in my wallet. I change the fob battery yearly. Thanks for the good information.
Good Deal, you are all set! 👍
Glad you're enjoying the vids.
If you only use this once it will be worth the trouble to prepare for it! No way am I going to remember the steps as its just not something you do everyday. I was at a Rally in Northern Ontario and the festival grounds were home to this huge Micro Wave tower which was not intrusive, but.......yep if you guessed...not one single key fob bike would start because the tower interfered with the fob signal. It was a word of mouth "wtf is up with all the bikes not starting" and it didn't take long before people figured it must be the tower. The old kick start/key guy's were laughing at us! It was so hilarious at the time (I can say that now). I had to pull out my instructions and was able to get started without issue. Then we shared our instructions with others there to try and help out. I still laugh when I think about it and am so glad I had the wherewithal to stash my pin/instructions on me. 😅
Whoa, that's crazy that a MW Tower would do that. Glad you had your "cheat sheet" with you and were able to get your bike started and help others.
Thank you for sharing. 👍
Back in 2015, when I bought my Ultra Limited there were two glossy tear-out wallet cards in the back of the owners manual. They allowed space for you to write your PIN with a sharpie, and included instructions for how to activate and enter the PIN. I still have the card in my wallet today.
Good thinking! Not a lot of people think ahead like that! 😎
Another Fantastic Video, Thank You. Be Safe, And Stay Healthy. And Have A Fabulous Day 😊
Glad you like the video! Thank you for your support and for commenting! 😎 MB
More good info from yall. I know from experience. I was three hours away from my fob.But I had it in my wallet with the instructions. Boy was I glad I had it.
Good you had it in your wallet. 3 hours each way would have been irritating!
Thanks for your comment. 👍
Just FYI, be careful about wiggling or moving the bike without the FOB even if you have the pincode memorized. If you move the bike enough and the FOB isnt in range, the bike will go into a mode where it wont let you put the pin in, and will reset the ignition repeatedly, and even if you do manage to put the pin in intime, the bike will still reset back to security mode.
I found this out the hard way when I was plugging a tire that got a screw in it. I bright the plugs out, and put one in and didnt have the fob on me the entire time. Went to turn the bike on and... it kept resetting over and over again, no matter how may times I toggled the switch.
I went back grabbed the keyfob, keyfob in range the self disabling mode went away and the bike started. Turned the bike off set the keys down 10 feet away, and then toggled the switch and then I put the pin in and started it that way.
Im not sure why it does this but it's super annoying.
Good point. Thanks for adding this info here. Appreciate it.
I believe it does this as part of the security...if the bike is messed with enough, without the FOB present or the PIN being punched in, it disables the bike, making it less attractive to steal.
Hi all! I believe this is what's happening to my bike. I can't seem to get it started. The battery is working, and I changed batteries in fobs. It doesn't display my security code, and when I reset , it still won't turn on.
This is very good to know. Have an Electra glide and plan on long trips. I would be in a very bad situation if I had this happen and no clue what to do. Thank you very much sir.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for the comment. Enjoy your trips! 👍
Between the transport mode and the lost key procedure there is just too much to try and remember. I like the idea Kevin of copying the manual and saving the copy on the bike.
Yeah, hopefully it is never needed...but if it is, my chance of remember how to do it is slim. 😂
Great video guys, both V Rod’s and the Road King that I bought came with no pins. This was a great idea for a video for me to change them and know how to start the bike without the fob. Thank you
Glad it was helpful! 👍
Just done it on my bike , thanks guys from theUK 😎brilliant video 🤟
Hello from across the pond!
Thanks for the comment, and glad you found the video useful. 👍
You guys are always educating us on important issues that sometimes the dealer forgets to go over when you purchase a bike. I know I can count on DK to give good and timely information. Thanks so much guys!
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Really do give you so much more room. 👍
Thanks for the kind words, glad you are finding the videos useful. 👍
Yeah, amazing something so small can make such a difference. We appreciate your business and glad to hear you are enjoying that extra room!
Great info!! Thnx guys!! I'm saving this video too...Just in case...✌️😎
Awesome! Thank you! 😎 Glad you like the video!!
That was a good service to provide us. Thanks.
Good to hear you found it useful. Thank you for the comment. 👍
Nice advice Kevin, with the copy. Ride - Hard, Ride - FREE!!
Thanks, glad you found it useful! 🏍👍
Good stuff guys. I believe some Harleys PIN is the last digits of the VIN?
Mine was and I believe It’s possible to change it. (I’m sure I did on mine)
Yes, sometimes the last digits of the VIN are used for the PIN. (but don't depend on it)
Yes, PIN can always be changed.
Good info as always, At the end of the owners manual there is a card that can be placed into a wallet and it has a spot to write down your pin and has how to put your bike in transport mode. Not sure when Harley started putting those cards in the back of the manual.
Thanks for the info! 👍
Hey guys great video perfect timing with Spring here and all. I loved the suggestion of Xeroxing the manual. I took it one step further. In addition to copying and pasting the FOB info from the manual and putting it into a doc, I printed it out and stored the document in my notes app on my iPhone. So now I am covered with an analog printed out sheet and a digital copy. Better safe than sorry. Oh did I mention that I put the PIN only in my notes app :-) Keep these videos coming. P.S. Love your products. Just recently installed an external breather and a catch can to my 2019 FLHXS.
Good Advice! Thanks for sharing! 👍
Thanks for your business, we appreciate it. Great to hear that you are digging the parts!
I can't tell you guys HOW MUCH I appreciate what you BOTH do for our riding brothers & sister. ALL your products are well worth it to add to our HD's. My TriGlide has most EVERYTHING that you produce for them...Again, I can't THANK you enough for your PRODUCTS and KNOWLEDGE that you off us.. My dealer NEVER went over the PIN start...
Thank you for the kind words, glad this video was helpful.
We Appreciate your business, and are very happy to hear that you are pleased with the parts. Thank you! 👍
This is the first bike I've had with a fob... I don't know what my pin is. I do keep an extra battery in my tool bag. But I would be shit outta luck if I lose the fob😳 Thanks fellas
I would suggest you find out the PIN right away...never know when you may need it. 2:25 mark of this video shows how to find out what your PIN is.
Thats some damn good info guys! Thank you both 🥳🥳
Cool. Glad to hear you found it useful. 👍
Great video thanks keep up the good work, from NZ
Thank you! Glad you're finding the videos interesting/useful. 👍😎👍
Right on guys. Love all your vids. I’d love to buy some of your stuff but the freight charges and transport chain delays to Australia are a downer for me.
Deliveries are happening pretty quickly to Australia. We ship there most everyday via UPS and it is working well. Forget about it with the postal service, still lots of delays.
BUT, you are correct, it is pretty expensive.
We have a Distributor in Australia....Rollies Speed Shop. They may have what you want, if not, they can get it.
Good advice, but it is as you guys said definitely different between the years because my 06 Road King doesn't even show the numbers on the odometer it shows by the lights on the dash flashing the number.. kind of a pain in back side.
Yep, every bike may be a bit different, but the instructions are in the manual, or even available online.
Lost the FOB for my Road King. Had to do the *turn signal dance* for a week before I could get down to the dealer for a new one. I can do the PIN start in my sleep.
Glad you knew your PIN. 👍
Great event to be prepared for, can’t predict when you will need it, but when you do…..
Yep. Insurance seems like a waste of money...Until you need it!
I just bought a 2016 Lowrider, educating myself on the electrical. Thanks. My question is if the fob is gone forever or I buy an extra fob, does that involve a software download?
If the FOB is gone forever and you know the code, you can use that indefinitely.
If you know the code, & you just want a new fob, it has to be "married" to the bike at the Dealership with their equipment.
If you don't know the code, you will have to purchase an entire new security module with matching FOB's. It needs to be installed at a Dealership.
I try and remember to start my bike without the FOB present and using my PIN monthly to make it a none issue if for some reason my FOB doesn't work.
Great idea! Thanks for sharing. 👍
I ran into a couple who were riding their used bike at Tequamenon Falls, Michigan. They lost the key fob and didn't have the pin. Probably spent two days and a thousand dollars getting to the nearest dealer and getting what they needed.
That is crazy! I hope they got it all figured out and never have to go through that again!
I know a guy who bought a brand new heritage softail and lost his fob after about 2 weeks of ownership! His bike sat for a couple of days while he came to terms with buying a new fob. Just before he pulled the trigger his dad came over for something, and was messing with the bike and noticed the handlebars were locked and thought, “no way. Surely he’s checked there?” Looks down at the little lock for the handlebars and……yep….nuff said.
He was riding again a few minutes later!
Wow, nice that he found it before ordering another one! 👍
Check your key fob "contact" inside also. If the tiny metal piece doesn`t make a good contact inside the fob, it won`t work. From experience.
Good info, thank you for sharing! 👍
Great advice guys. I did create my own PIN soon after purchasing my sport glide new in 2018 but just photocopied the instructions as per Kevin’s recommendation. Just curious, does Harley supply only one fob with new bikes now? I received two with my 2018.
Hi Ed. My 2020 Tri Glide came with only one fob when I bought it new.
Glad you like the video! Thanks for the comment. 👍
Yes, a couple of years ago HD started including only ONE FOB with the bikes...now, if you want a second one, you need to give them more $$$. "Shrinkflation"
Works like a charm!
Nice! 👍
Thanks for the info!
You bet!
Pick an easy 5 digit PIN... Zip code, birth year plus 1, year graduated high school plus 1 added etc..
Good idea, thank you for sharing. 👍
Very informative video !
Glad you found it useful!
Great got to do this. I was working on mine and then tried to start it. Nope thought it was an ignition or fuel problem. He'll I rode the bike 2 days before no problems starting. Don't get why it happened
Glad you found it useful. Hope you get her started and back out in the wind.
@@DKCustomProducts yes thank you. Worked great. I was scratching my head. I've always had the pre 68 Harleys so we didnt ha e those idiosyncrasies
The one thing I do religiously with my FOB is to change the battery in each one every year, at the same exact time. Never had that fail yet....at least when the FOB is by the bike.
Now, I have done what a few others have done here....start up with FOB in close enough proximity to start, but get somewhere, and then DOH!!! For whatever reason, mine (09 Ultra) is extremely touchy on code entry, and even the dealership had to "play" a bit to get it reset for me. I did have my son get my FOB to get moving in this instance, and went to dealership at later time.
Yep, batteries are the main culprit.
Yep, been there, done that. 👍
Great info for riders with newer bikes that use the fob. I change my code # right off as I didn’t want to be stranded with a loss fob. I also carry extra battery for fob, which I did use recently after fueling up. A weak battery in fob may get you started, on that day I did have to hold fob at my crotch when I left house.
At the gas station it didn’t work,
minutes later I was rolling with new batt.
One question : is it true or false that if you inter wrong code does it lock system after 3 wrong try’s
Thanks for a response y
Yes, having an extra battery is a good idea. Thanks! 👍
I do believe some bikes are set up to lock up for X period of time after multiple tries of the wrong PIN.
However, we have also seen the wrong PIN entered many more times than 3 and it did not lock up the system.
I photographed the procedure and edited the photo to include the pin number and I keep the photo on my phone. If something happens, I can just pull up that image on my phone and I'm good to go.
Good deal! 👍😎👍
Good info. I deleted my system. Life can be so simple.
Will that work with an older bike? 2007 Dyna Wide Glide.
Over the years Harley has used many variations of this procedure. Check your manual for the specific procedure for Your Bike and figure out your pin so that your FOB will not be needed unless you want it.
Thanks for commenting! 👍
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I got rid of my fobs by marrying a new TSSM to my bike. So glad to be done with all that.
What detriment did you experience by having security and a FOB that motivated you to get rid of it?
@@DKCustomProducts One night during a long ride I stopped for a cup of coffee and upon leaving my bike no longer recognized its own fob and refused to start without the PIN. Even using the PIN it took multiple attempts before finally starting. The dealer told me it was fairly common for TSSM to fail in that way and I would have to bring the bike in, have a new TSSM installed with fobs programmed to it by HD. So I bought and installed the TSSM myself without programming any fobs to it.
@@j.d.thompson3505 Wow! Glad you were not stranded, and you got it taken care of.
TSSM's do fail, but it is NOT common as your dealer indicated.
Out of thousands and thousands of bikes we've worked with, I can count on one hand the number of times I've heard of the TSSM failing.
That's why I'll take good old fashioned keys. All of the rest of my bikes have 'em.. Real simple. I wasn't even told by the dealer about my new LRS's pin #. Guess I'm going back to these guys again. Why's everything so different with these bikes. Even the way you check the oil. Possible sumping probs. of the big 117. Love this bike, but I have some questions to be answered. 25 grand and 1 fob. No tool kit. WTH?
Yep, the more electronics, the more potential for not so easy problems to solve.
Many folks like the convenience of the latest amenities, but those come with their own set of challenges.
Here is a video of another Catch-22 HD has been challenged with- ruclips.net/video/N0kLaVQhbW4/видео.html
Hope you write HD Corporate and get some answers to your questions.
Thanks for watching and your comment.
I've made a custom pin for my bike
Per the book
Is there anything that could happen to bike that would cause it to forget my pin
Not that we know of. Only reason it would "forget" the PIN is if it was replaced with another one.
I just bought a used dyna 35 anniversary 2006 and I don’t have the key fob never got one and my bike starts and run just fine, did this model come without the key fob ?
Your manual will tell you if your bike came with a FOB...but if it did and you don't need to use one, then the module has been bypassed.
I bought a used 2005 Dyna FXDI from a used bike dealer and it only had 1 fob. The Dyna was delivered and I did not get the pin number. I email the sales person and he said you just click the fob button 4 times and its armed, to dis arm it, click the button 4 times again. I decided not to arm it and recently the bike wouldn't crank over/battery at 13.5V. I change the fob battery and at first it didn't work and so I tapped the fob and then it cranked right over and started up. I am guessing the fob is worn out. Should I go to a Harley dealer and buy a new fob?
You will have to have a good working FOB to find out what your pin is.
Over the years Harley has used many variations of this procedure. Check your manual for the specific procedure for Your Bike and figure out your pin so that your FOB will not be needed unless you want it.
Thanks for commenting! 👍
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this did not work for my 08 cvo dyna. my gages are separate from each other
This is a 2018 M8 Softail. Over the years Harley has used many variations of this procedure. Check your manual for the specific procedure for Your Bike.
this applicable for all that has a Key Fob? or only certain years and models?
Being able to change the PIN is applicable to all. How to change the PIN varies from bike to bike and year to year. Instructions will be in your manual.
Hi so I lost my fob before changing the code then retrieve my fob but it's damaged beyond repair next step in retrieving code or new fob any suggestions much appreciated
If you do not have an operational FOB, and you do not know the code...I believe the only thing you can do is get a new security module with accompanying FOB(s).
I have heard that there is a device out there that can read the security module you have now and give you the code...but I have never seen one, nor have I heard of a dealership having one.
You can call Jamie at J&T V-Twin Repair & Mobile Dyno- 901-584-5760. He is the guy I heard that has (or knows of) the device that can do this.
My manual says to push left blinker 3 times. I've tried both 2 and 3 but nothing works. Now I'm worried about losing my stupid fob and being sol. 08 street glide
Try pushing the run/off button faster before doing the left and then right blinker. If it does not work, I would take a ride to the Dealership and see if they can do it, and if not, what they propose the solution is.
Is twin cam the same ?
Over the years Harley has used many variations of this procedure. Check your manual for the specific procedure for Your Bike.
Here's a video of a 2014 Twin Cam- ruclips.net/video/sOia3VBYnWg/видео.html
Thank you for commenting! MB
Ha, all our salesman wanted was a sell.
Thanks for the information
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I tried this with my 2007 Softail and it doesn't seem to bring up a PIN. When I go through the sequence, the turn signals come on when I push those and nothing changes on the LED screen. If I cycle through the LED options, it only shows mileage, a mileage trip, and the clock. Perhaps the 2007 models didn't use a PIN? I just changed the FOB battery and that is working fine.
Try turning on your ignition and then immediately and quickly hold both L and R turn signals at the same time.. My 08 Softail uses this procedure.
@@bigblue3568 Thanks. Tried your procedure and that works.
Every year can be a bit different procedure. Grab your manual and check out what the exact sequence is for your bike. 👍
If it has a FOB it has security and should have a PIN to operate the bike in case of FOB failure or loss.
Could you guys specify the year and model of the bike? Because that is NOT how I enter my pin
This is a 2018 M8 Softail. Over the years Harley has used many variations of this procedure. Check your manual for the specific procedure for Your Bike.
Question? I’ve lost my fob and don’t know my pin… what do I do??? #HELP
I believe the only thing you can do is get a new security module with accompanying FOB(s).
I have heard that there is a device out there that can read the security module you have now and give you the code...but I have never seen one, nor have I heard of a dealership having one.
You can call Jamie at J&T V-Twin Repair & Mobile Dyno- 901-584-5760. He is the guy I heard that has (or knows of) the device that can do this.
DK is correct,unless you can find a dealer that has the device that can tap in and read your pin you will have to buy a new security system and have it installed😮
My 2009 street glide i can get to the point to enter a pin but i cant see the one in the bike so i am not getting anywhere , i tried the 31313 nothing
Look at your manual for the specific steps on your year/model bike.
Hopefully you have a functioning FOB since you don't know your PIN. With it (a FOB) you will be able to set a new PIN.
Can anyone turn on the start button and go through the sequence you described and find out my pin? What good is having a specific pin if someone can go through that process and get my pin. Thank for the info.
Only if your key fob is within close proximity to the bike.
If the key fob is not at the bike, no one, including you, can retrieve the PIN.
@@DKCustomProducts Thanks! That makes sense.
@@raybligh9896 no problem!
2010 Dyna doesnt let you put in PIN. Is there a different procedure?
Have you looked in your owners manual? If you have a key fob, I cannot imagine that there is not a way to enter a PIN. Harley has used a variety of different methods over the years and I am not sure which method is used on a 2010 Dyna....and, it may even vary from one Dyna model to another, even within the same model year. Sorry could not be more help. If you do look in your manual and find out, if you could share it here so that other could read, that would be great. 👍
@@DKCustomProducts thanks for the response. I bought the bike wrecked at an auction. NO key, no fob, no manual. Harley dealer said i need the fob which are on backorder for a year or so.. They said they can disable the security system for around 200 until then. Guess I am stuck unless i want to pay their ransom..
@@rebjimj.e.4119 Yeah, if you had the FOB you could get the book and find out how to reprogram the PIN to one that you know. That sucks big time that they are on backorder for a year. They are right, disable the security module and you will still need a key to turn it on.
My husband recently passed and no one can find the keys to either 2000 or 2012 hd. I'm wondering if he set pins on his bikes
Sorry to hear that.
There is a way to get into the PIN if you do not have them. I don't know of any HD Dealerships that have the Software...they generally want to sell you a whole new security module.
Give Jamie a call at 901-584-5760 and he should be able to help you.
You have to have fob present to view pin and to reset pin
How Do You Find Out What Your PIN Is ? Used 2001 Heritage Softail Classic ?
It should be in your manual, but if the way shown in this video does not work, then this may.
Turn ignition key on and off 3 times and pressing turn signal switches, should be in your owners manual. The old pin will show up in the odometer window.
That's exactly why I use a good chain.
Explain please.
@@DKCustomProducts My choice is to avoid the Fob/ alarm completley. But then again I don't care to have a stereo on my bikes either.
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Not asking for PIN number, I have fob with me. What do I do?
It’s a 1200 sportster 1200 2005
Over the years Harley has used many variations of this procedure. Check your manual for the specific procedure for Your Bike.
This still is may not be the exact procedure for your bike but here is a video fort a 2014 Twin Cam- ruclips.net/video/sOia3VBYnWg/видео.html
Thank you for commenting! MB
Wow... This made me see how out-dated my stuff really is.
😀 And a lot of times that is a good thing!
How can I do away with the fob altogether? I don't want to have to take my bike to the dealer for anything. I do all my own wrenching.
I know my pin and use it since my fob died, I just don't want to have to deal with it anymore.
Depending on your model, it could be as simple as swapping your Turn Signal module (doubles as security system) with a TSM not equipped with the key FOB feature. May be cheaper though to visit a dealer and have them use their digital tech tool to disable the FOB
Isn't there also a way to start modern Harleys without the fob and without the pin? I watched a repo guy do it once.
I have heard of a device that will let a person retrieve the PIN. It is Not something that most dealerships have. Most dealerships will tell you that they cannot retrieve the PIN and that the only solution is to get a new Security Module.
There is a device to retrieve a PIN without the FOB but I have not seen a dealer that has the device. Buy an extra FoB and have it programmed and/or keep your pin handy😊
I've tried this on my 2021 FatBob and nothing happened. I think you have to press the on/off button at the same speed as you did on this video.
Your manual will outline the steps for your particular bike.
Thanks for watching and commenting. 👍
@@DKCustomProducts it does indeed but I've followed the steps several times to no avail. Apparently you have to press the buttons quickly for it to work but I won't get chance to try it out for a couple of weeks time.
@@robertprosser6856 Yes, when you get a chance, play around with the speed at which you press the buttons. It can make a difference.
@@DKCustomProducts thanks and greetings from the UK👍
@@robertprosser6856 Back at you from Rural Mississippi. 👍
I doubt it, but it is possible that the UK version is different than the USA version. I know some other things are different.
I hate the fob rather a key 🔑
Yeah, when it works it can be nice, but electronics just add another possible failure point. 😱
If I do this how far can I drive my bike
You can Ride your bike as far as you want...when you enter the PIN it is "unlocks" the bike the same as if you had the FOB. Of course, every time you shut it off, you have to enter the PIN again, if you have no FOB. 👍
Good video... :-)
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for the comment. 👍
You made a storm out of a cup of coffee,
Yeah, well, a lot of folks don't read their manuals, or don't have their manuals, and appreciate things being spelled out to them. 👍😎👍
My pin won't come up.
This video is on a 2018 M8 Softail. Over the years Harley has used many variations of this procedure. Check your manual for the specific procedure for Your Bike.
Thank you for commenting! 👍 MB
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okay where you punch in your pin ive never lost a key
Please watch the video for general info, and refer to your manual for your model specific instructions. Turn Signal buttons, as shown in the video.
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I lost the fob and don't know the code to my bike..🥵
That is a bummer. 😬
#1 key fobs suck!
#2 you should have shown how to change the PIN number. You were so close!!
Look at the 4:22 mark in the video...it is right there how to change the PIN on that particular bike.
I had dealership do a security delete, day 1.
Now what is the sense on changing your pin. If all it takes is the thief to do what you did to see what the pin is and then go through the process of entering the pin and stealing your bike....that boggles my mind.
You have to have the Key Fob to change the PIN. If you don't let other folks know your pin, they cannot use that PIN to steal your bike. If you, or a thief have the key fob, neither of you need to enter the PIN to start the bike.
Don't give your keys or your PIN to a thief.
@@DKCustomProducts ah gotchya
Glad to help! Thanks for inquiring! 👍
When you find out what your pin is and you want to keep that number do you just turn the power off?
So, if you know this trick you can steal any Harley😅
You have to have the Key Fob to change the PIN or view the PIN. In that case you do not need this video because you have the key fob! MB
@@DKCustomProducts the title of the video is "how to start your Harley without the key fob". If you know the code and the fork isn't locked you're in.
You don't have to change the code, you just have to know it.
Again, you would have to know the PIN and the procedure for the year model bike.
Glad my bikes older. I hate electronic nanny shit!
There are definitely advantages that the older bikes have. 👍
I just bought a 04 Sportster that has a fob hanging with the key ring. I hope to hell, this isn;t the same bullshit you posted.
Dunno why it would have a key fob for no reason. Easy way to find out....put the fob 50 yards away and see if the bike will start without it being there. KP
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buy a bike.. Make the pin change to your own #####......... duh
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These videos are stupid. You have your pin you know how to start your bike.
I bought a 2013 Sportster. It's been through four other people. I need to know how to start it without a key fob and no pin number. It's someone put out a video of how to bypass this stupid system. Thank you.
There is no way to defeat the system. If you have no fob and don't know the PIN, you will need to get a new security module with matching fobs.
You can search for the video you want til your hearts content...they don't exist, because what you want is not possible.
There is rumor that someone has made a module that will break into the security system, but I have not talked to anyone that has actually used it.
Pretty girl for the thumbnail.....CLICK BAIT
2012 switchback couldn't get the pin
Try turning on your ignition and then immediately and quickly hold both L and R turn signals at the same time.. My 08 Softail uses this procedure.
Every year can be a bit different procedure. Grab your manual and check out what the exact sequence is for your bike. 👍
If it has a FOB it has security and should have a PIN to operate the bike in case of FOB failure or loss.
@@DKCustomProducts ty but nope and wher i bought it they jus wanna come get it $$$
@@wolf30349 Grab your manual and check out what the exact sequence is for your bike.