I have a Jewish Father, and was also raised Jewish... and I recently have definitely come to believe and have faith the Book of Mormon is a True Testimate of Jesus Christ in America... I am not converted to Mormon, but I do also believe Joseph Smith saw Jesus... I would love to know more, I am convinced
I met Robert Parrot, the Forester for the Smith family farm in Palmyra, New York. He was not a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, but he was a sincere believer in the reality of the First Vision of Joseph Smith in the uncleared woods of the farm in the early Spring of 1820. He told me where he believed the Father and Son had appeared in answer to young Joseph's prayer asking which church he should join. I am 73 years old and have studied the life and works of Joseph through my life, and the more I have learned, the more convinced I am that Joseph was an honest man who told about what God had taught him. The books he produced, from the Book of Mormon, to the Book of Most s, and the Book of Moses, demonstrate a deep knowledge of ancient Jewish beliefs and literature, which he could not have known through any education, because those facts were not known until 50 to 150 years after his death in 1844. He could only know those things through revelation from God.
I Nephi 1, 600 B.C., is historically and linguistically inaccurate. I Nephi 1 has a prophecy concerning the destruction of Jerusalem. If you know anything about the history of Jerusalem, then you know that King Jehoahaz was taken as a prisoner to Egypt nine years prior by Pharaoh Neco. (609 BC). You also know that the first deportation occurred five years prior in 605 BC. There would be no need to 'prophesy' about the destruction of Jerusalem. It was well under way. Also, the language of 'Reformed Egyptian' has never existed. Egyptians speak Arabic. Hebrews living in Jerusalem in 600 B.C. spoke Hebrew. They would not be speaking a fictional language neither would they be still speaking the supposed language of their captors from hundreds of years prior. The good news is that Christ never said that you had to wait 1800 years and believe the BOM is true to get to the 'top level' of heaven. **** Joseph Smith himself made it very clear that the Book of Mormon was meant to be taken as fiction. Imagine finding gold plates written in 600 B.C. with the Gettysburg Address in them? Now imagine gold plates from 600 B.C with word for word quotes from people who hadn't even been born yet? Pretty amazing! *** The Book of Acts records the apostle Peter paraphrasing Moses (Deut. 18:18-19) during his sermon at Pentecost. This happened around 60 A.D. In the Book of Mormon, around 580 B.C., Nephi claims to also quote from Moses, but instead he quotes Peter's paraphrasing of Moses verbatim, 640 years before Peter gave his sermon. *** Apostle Peter (60 A.D.) Holy Bible For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you. And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people. - Acts 3:22-23 Book of Mormon 580 B.C. ...the words of Moses, which he spake, saying: A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you. And it shall come to pass that all those who will not hear that prophet shall be cut off from among the people. - 1 Nephi 22:20 **************** Alma chapter 5 plagiarizes John the Baptist about 80 years before he was born. John the Baptist (30 A.D.) Holy Bible And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. - Matthew 3:10 Book of Mormon 83 B.C. And again I say unto you, the Spirit saith: Behold, the ax is laid at the root of the tree; therefore every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit shall be hewn down and cast into the fire... - Alma 5:52 ********************** Mosiah chapter 16 plagiarizes the apostle Paul 200 years before he wrote his firsts epistle to the church at Corinth. Apostle Paul (55 A.D.) Holy Bible For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 1 Corinthians 15:53 Book of Mormon 148 B.C. Even this mortal shall put on immortality, and this corruption shall put on incorruption... - Mosiah 16:10 ************************ 2 Nephi plagiarizes the apostle Paul 600 years before he wrote his epistle to the church at Rome. Apostle Paul (68 A.D.) Holy Bible For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. - Romans 8:6 Book of Mormon 555 B. C. ...to be carnally-minded is death, and to be spiritually-minded is life eternal. - 2 Nephi 9:39
According to the Book of Mormon, there were many high priests serving at the same time (Mosiah 11:11; Alma 13:9-10; 46:6,38; Helaman 3:25) in the New World, among those it describes as Jewish immigrants from ancient Israel who "kept the law of Moses" (e.g., 2 Nephi 25:10; Jacob 4:5; Jarom 1:5). In contrast, it is clear from the Bible that only one individual at a time occupied the office of high priest under the Old Testament dispensation (see, for example Leviticus 21:10; Matthew 26:3; Hebrews 8:6-7). The people described in the Book of Mormon operated multiple temples (Alma 16:13; 23:2; 26:29). This violates the dictates of the Old Testament Scriptures on two counts: First, God commanded Israel to build only one temple to reflect that fact that there is only one true God (Deuteronomy 12:5,13-14; 16:5-6). Second, the one legitimate temple was to be built in Jerusalem (Zion), the location designated by God (The Old Testament is filled with explicit references to God choosing Jerusalem [Zion] as the place where "His name would dwell" in the temple: for example, 1 Kings 8:44,48; 11:13,32,36; 14:21; 2 Kings 21:7; 23:27; 1 Chronicles 28:4; 2 Chronicles 6:6; 7:12,16; Psalm 78:68-69; Isaiah 18:7.
I LOVED this program. I have some real connections to Jason. I read the Book of Mormon and got baptized when I was 18. I also served a mission in New Jersey. I was raised Catholic, but as a Jersey missionary, developed a great love for the Jewish people. I cried several times as I listened to Jason's story. Thanks again and God Bless both of you.
Book of Mormon: There is not a single manuscript dating prior to 1830 as evidence when the Book of Mormon was published. There is zero archaeological, anthropological, topological, linguistic, or DNA evidence to support the Book of Mormon. It would be impossible for highly advanced civilizations (Jaredites, Nephites) with millions of people to have vanished off the face of the earth without leaving a single coin, peace of armor, sword, bone, or shred of evidence behind! The Book of Mormon claims a temple was built after the manner of Solomon’s temple, which took over 180,000 workers seven years to build. If this were true, there would be evidence left behind of such a massive structure. The population growth claims in the Book of Mormon during specific periods (by 187 BC) are 30 times the population growths of the world during the same era1. The entire belief system and premise of Mormonism is based on a claim the Bible was corrupted and "plain and precious parts" were removed by early Christian translators sometime after the apostles had all died. This is a very dangerous claim to make against the word of God, especially since God promised us his word would never pass away and would be with us forever (Isaiah 40:8; Psalms 100:5; Matthew 16:18, 24:35; 1 Peter 1:23-25). Facts regarding the Book of Mormon: - The King James Version (KJV) of the Bible was completed in 1611 in Europe and was written in Elizabethan form English, which is an archaic language which was not around anymore in the early 1800's, and especially not in America. How is it possible the Book of Mormon, which was supposedly written over 1,000 years earlier, was written in the same Elizabethan form English neither Joseph Smith nor the Nephites spoke or had access to? - During the seven year translation process of the KJV, words were added which did not appear in the original text to make the text flow and for readability in English. These words were written in italics to denote they were not in the original manuscripts. How could it be possible these same italicized words, which were added in 1611, appear in the Book of Mormon as if Joseph Smith translated directly from golden plates written over 1,000 years prior to the KJV Bible? For example, please compare Isaiah 53 to Mosiah 14. Furthermore, roughly 25% of the Book of Mormon contains almost a verbatim copy of the 1769 KJV of the Bible along with the exact same errors. The 1769 version of the KJ Bible just happens to be the exact version Joseph Smith owned. Is this just a mere coincidence? Is this really inspired from God and "the most correct book of any on earth" if the errors were not corrected by Joseph Smith? - Why would the Nephites write down their historical record in the language of their enemies (Egyptians)? - Impossible population growth: You have less than 100 people coming over from Israel and their population explodes while in the Book of Mormon lands (wherever that is). This all happens at the same time the many battles throughout the Book of Mormon occur, which kill tens of thousands within certain battles and around 230,000 Nephites alone in the final battle at the Hill Cumorah. This growth rate in total would be more than double the Roman Empire by comparison1. This would lead to a population of over 8,000 Romans vs. a population of over 1,800,000 for the Nephites/Lamanites. These growth rates are impossible and unheard of without modern medicines. So let’s objectively examine both the Bible and the Book of Mormon to be fair and test if any have errors. Book of Mormon: “The whole face of the land had become covered with buildings” (Mormon 1:7) “Two million Jaredites slain” (Ether 15:2) 38 cities are catalogued in the Book of Mormon, along with iron, steel, brass, metal swords, breast-plates, shields, armor, or chariots. Yet, not one item mentioned in the Book of Mormon has ever been discovered in America. The Book of Mormon speaks of sheep, swine, goats, wheat, barley, silk, and elephants-even though they weren’t brought to America until centuries later by Europeans in post-Columbian times. Again we see that Joseph Smith was thinking about things in his current day as he was fabricating the Book of Mormon. Bible: Today roughly 40,000 combinations of manuscripts exist of the Old and New Testaments proving them to be by far the most verifiable and trusted documents of antiquity. Many of these Old Testament manuscripts are decades and centuries before the birth of Jesus. Namely, the Dead Sea Scrolls, one of the most significant discoveries since antiquity, were discovered in 1947, over 100 years after the Book of Mormon was accusing the Bible of being corrupted. This discovery is remarkably important, especially for the Mormon, because prior to this discovery, the oldest known complete Old Testament manuscript in existence was the Masoretic Text from around 980 AD. Since 980 AD is well after the Book of Mormon claims when the corruption of the Bible occurred, it was impossible to prove the perfect preservation of the Bible.
@@DiffQ_Bro Why do you promote the Book of Mormon when the evidence is overwhelming that it is false? The God of the Bible was kind enough to let us see his word is true and we see the remains of the first and second temple in Jerusalem. We see evidence of the Philistines, Sumerians, Jews, Babylonians, Hittites, the Egyptians, and many more. You cannot dig in Israel without finding historical evidence. Yet evidence for the book of Mormon does not exist and we would see evidence if it was true. A Temple like Solomon's Temple built in America does not exist. It is a 100% impossibility as we would have some remains and there were no Levites in the Americas to serve in the temple so it would have been against Jewish law for others to work in the temple as priests and the book of Mormon says Jewish laws were kept. If you study the bible you know this. Mormon's own the Hill Cumorah yet they do not excavate it because they know there is nothing there from previous digs. An excavation would be a grand embarrassment and would prove the religion is a lie. How can intelligent Mormon's ignore this and not answer this question?
I was raised in a Catholic/Jewish (dad/stepmom) & New Age (mom) “religious” household. Their true religion was following the world (all of them). I was contractually obligated from my parents marriage contract to be raised Catholic. Fortunately, I always had a love of God and a reverence for spiritual things. I had a similar experience and knew Jesus was the Lord at around 15. Eventually I lived with some family in another state and they were LDS. I felt something different in their home and ask to attend seminary with my cousin. I was introduced to missionaries and read the BOM. The spirit does witness the truth to those who sincerely want to know. I did and I gained a testimony of it. Like Joseph Smith, I could not deny what I knew to be true. Grateful for my varied spiritual path and how it helped me to be open to the restored gospel. Everyone should read the Book of Mormon and meet with missionaries whether they join or not. It’s a wonderful feel good and life lesson book aside from being profoundly spiritual. Thanks for an awesome guest and interview from a new listener.
Jason's experience with the Book of Mormon, and those warning him against the Church reminded me of watching the many marvelous testimonies and conversion stories of Messianic Jews on the "I Met Messiah" series here on RUclips. So many of them talk about being warned against the New Testament - that it is an anti-semitic book. Many explain that they thought it was about the Pope and the Catholics. They feared that book and felt it was blasphemous to open its pages. Then, low and behold, once they "dare" to read it themselves, they share in their stories what it was like reading it for the first time: they almost ALL say very similar things, such as, "I had NO IDEA Jesus was Jewish! I can’t believe that the New Testament was written by Jews and that it is a Jewish book!" And then Isaiah 53 comes into focus and makes so much more sense to them as they tie it all together. Then they talk about coming to know Jesus/Yeshua as the Jewish Messiah and their personal Savior and the incredible power behind those answers to prayers once they ask God about this truth for the first time. And then they often share the suffering they endure when (in some cases) their families and friends shun/disown them or call them crazy. I believe it is the same thing about the Book of Mormon. Time after time I hear of stories of other Christians who come to the Book of Mormon looking to debunk it to their crazy friend or family member who has gotten mixed up with members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, only to discover a deeper understanding of their Savior, Jesus Christ. Listening to the incredibly moving conversion stories of the "I Met Messiah" series rings a bell with the way people are converted to the Book of Mormon as a true book of scripture. They were warned against it, dared to read it and pray about it, and were converted in much the same way as these Messianic Jews were. The descriptions of the powerful answer to prayer in both instances are so very similar. Both the New Testament AND the Book of Mormon have power in their pages because both books testify of the divinity of Jesus Christ as THE ONLY WAY back to God and our heavenly home. Consider the experience of Lynn Ridenhour, a Southern Baptist preacher from Missouri. Initially skeptical, he agrees to accept a copy of the Book of Mormon from a new neighbor out of politeness, but not believing the person giving it to him was a Christian. This is his experience: "... he handed me a Book of Mormon. So, before I know what I’m saying, I said, 'But sir, THAT'S a Book of Mormon!' and he said 'yes,' and then I said, 'but I thought this was a Christian community.' ...I mean, I have a lot of bias. I grew up very with a very conservative Baptist background. And he said, 'Oh, we're a Christian community, but we also believe in that book.' Well, the bottom line was simply, when he left, I took it out of courtesy. -- I did not get out of the first page-totally, as we say here in Missouri, sideswiped by God. When I read 'I Nephi having been born of goodly parents,' I knew. I really did. I knew that I was reading God’s word. And I kept looking for the weird stuff and I would read through Nephi, and then 2nd Nephi, and I did. You know, we were taught some... I call them 'caricature' beliefs regarding the Book of Mormon, and I did not find one thing that contradicted the Bible. In fact, sometimes I tell my Baptist buddies that the Book of Mormon is more Baptist than the Baptist hymnal -and it is in places. It really is. It's jammed packed full of what I call 'cardinal themes' of Protestantism. I’ve been invited to speak in Baptist churches and Pentecostal churches, and the way I present the Book of Mormon is essentially, that is Christ-centered. So whether or not you’re a Baptist or a Methodist or a Pentecostal or whatever, I approach it through the lens that the same Jesus that I met as an 11-year-old lad in the Baptist Church I discovered in this book. That’s my approach. It's the centrality of the Lord Jesus Christ. I tell my Baptist friends, I feel like I've been born again, again."
Evidence for Book of Mormon in ancient America- none Evidence showing Book of Mormon is a 19th century religious fiction: No wheat, no barley, no goats, no steel found in the Americas, no metal smelting furnaces, no metal armor, no temples, no steel swords, no skeletons of these warriors, no graves, no cities (it would be impossible for a city the size of Zarahemla to leave no trace), no cattle, no chariot parts, no Nephite coins (listed in book of Alma as being used for a thousand years), no Jewish relics from supposed jews, no metal plates like Nephites supposedly had, no artifacts whatsoever, no Nephite "reformed Egyptian" writings; and no evidence the book of Mormon "prophets" ever existed. There is zero archaeological, anthropological, topological, linguistic, or DNA evidence to support the Book of Mormon. It would be impossible for highly advanced civilizations (Jaredites, Nephites) with millions of people to have vanished off the face of the earth The whole face of the land had become covered with buildings” (Mormon 1:7) “Two million Jaredites slain” (Ether 15:2) 38 cities are catalogued in the Book of Mormon, along with iron, steel, brass, metal swords, breast-plates, shields, armor, or chariots. Yet, not one item mentioned in the Book of Mormon has ever been discovered in America. The Book of Mormon speaks of sheep, swine, goats, wheat, barley, silk, and elephants-even though they weren’t brought to America until centuries later by Europeans in post-Columbian times. Again we see that Joseph Smith was thinking about things in his current day as he was fabricating the Book of Mormon. CAN WE TRUST OUR HEARTS as to book of Mormon since there is no evidence? Maroni chapter 10:4 says: "he will manifest the truth of it unto you" But: THE BIBLE WARNS YOU about trusting your own heart. Jeremiah 17:9 "the heart is deceitful above all things". Proverbs 28:26 "He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool." Please don't be a fool. The entire belief system and premise of Mormonism is based on a false claim the Bible was corrupted and "plain and precious parts" were removed by early Christian translators sometime after the apostles had all died. This is a very dangerous claim to make against the word of God, especially since God promised us his word would never pass away and would be with us forever (Isaiah 40:8; Psalms 100:5; Matthew 16:18, 24:35; 1 Peter 1:23-25). An Objective Test of the Bible and Book of Mormon The Claim: In the Book of Mormon, the prophet Nephi has a vision the Bible was corrupted after the 12 apostles preached it and after the formation of the “great and abominable church” (1 Nephi 13:26-29). Most Mormons believe this to be the Catholic Church which was formed early in the 4th century. Nephi claims this church was founded by the Devil to lead souls to hell (1 Nephi 14:3). So let’s objectively examine both the Bible and the Book of Mormon to be fair and test if any have errors. Bible: The earliest Dead Sea Scrolls have been historically dated by three different dating techniques to as early as 350 BC. Included in this discovery was the Great Isaiah Scroll, which is the oldest known complete copy of the Book of Isaiah and is dated to approximately 200 BC. Study the dead sea scrolls which are over 2,000 years old and see if they have Joseph Smith's uncorrupted version. They should if Joseph Smith was correct and the bible had been corrupted over time but, no they do not. They are the same today as they were over 2,100 years ago with only minor spelling or punctuation differences. Joseph Smith was wrong. The bible had not been corrupted. The new testament has not been corrupted either. Take for example John 1:1 a very important verse than Smith changed to make Jesus a created being. A papyri known as the Bodmer Papyri which is almost 1900 years old. (note that this was written not long after the apostle John would have died and it shows joseph smith changed the book of John, not that it got corrupted later as he alleged) John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. ΕΝ ΑΡΧΗ ΗΝ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΚΑΙ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΗΝ ΠΡΟΣ ΤΟΝ ΘΕΟΝ ΚΑΙ ΘΕΟΣ ΗΝ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ I post this in love. The manuscript and archeological evidence for the bible is the greatest of anything in antiquity. I pray that you know the real Jesus, the alpha and omega of all of creation. Know real peace, love and true salvation.
Fantastic comment with amazing stories! Thankyou for sharing all of it! Once serious people just give the Book of Mormon a chance, they can be pleasantly surprised.
@@sherigraham3873 I seriously looked at the evidence and was shocked. please turn from the false past humanoid endless Gods of Mormonism to the true God of the bible. Mormons teach that the angel Moroni came down from heaven and gave Joseph Smith the Book of Mormon. Let's hear what God Himself says about this claim in: GALATIANS 1:6-9 "I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who CALLED you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed..." There you are Mormons, God Himself telling you that He did not send any angel from heaven to Joseph Smith. Archeology has found ZERO confirmation of the book of Mormon. The Bible, on the other hand has clear tangible archeological proof of every Bible city, river, nation, king, ruler, coin, country (and hundreds of confirmed Bible stories) have been confirmed from professional archeological controlled digs. It is well known in professional archeological circles that the Book of Mormon has failed to find any connection with the extinct nations of South America (Nasca, Ica etc) and the Book of Mormon. All of the "star archeological witnesses" of the Book of Mormon are either flat out rejected as forgeries, fakes, frauds and fabrications (the 4 F's of archeology) or highly suspect since NONE of them came from controlled professional archeological excavations and ALL of them are unprovenanced.
@@brettpinion4233 you are sadly uninformed. According to the nat. Geographic, only 2% of Mayan, Aztec and other indigenous peoples cities have been excavated because of jungle density and logistics. Also, the challenges that the apostle Paul had in his day of keeping the church together and as 'one' were extremely difficult if not impossible. There are 45,000 different evangelical, protestant churches in the US today each having a different take on the Bible. It's a quagmire just like in Joseph Smiths day. No different. All Joseph Smith wanted to know was, which church to join among the many church camp meetings in Palmyra in his day. And he prayed in the woods. And the rest is history.
I wish you the best and hope you look beyond the surface to find the truth as to his 2% claim. God of the Bible bless you. When people dig even for worms in the Holy Land, they make discoveries. In contrast to the Book of Mormon, cities, places, coins, clothing, swords, etc. mentioned in the Bible have been found by archaeologists, but not one single place mentioned in the Book of Mormon has ever been identified. There are still people in the LDS Church who believe that archaeology has proved, at least to a degree, the Book of Mormon. Some missionaries are still using slide presentations of ruins from Mexico and South America, implying that they prove the Book of Mormon, but they are from an entirely different time period and are ruins of idol worshipers who offered human sacrifices. In the mid 1970’s, President Spencer W. Kimball made a statement that should have stopped these “faith promoting rumors.” The Church News published the statement, which said that people should stop looking for archaeological evidences for the Book of Mormon, for there is none. Perhaps he finally realized that it was too embarrassing to insist on Book of Mormon archaeology since professors in the Church’s own University had started to deny publicly that there was any truth to it. LDS Professor Dee Green, in Dialogue, summer of 1969, pp. 74-78, wrote: “The first myth we need to eliminate is that Book of Mormon archaeology exists. Titles of books full of archaeological half-truths, dilettante on peripheries of American archaeology calling themselves Book of Mormon archaeologists regardless of their education, and a Department of Archaeology at BYU devoted to the production of Book of Mormon archaeologists do not insure that Book of Mormon archaeology really exists… no Book of Mormon location is known… Biblical archaeology can be studied, because we know where Jerusalem and Jericho were and are, but we do not know where Zarahemla and Bountiful (nor any location for that matter) were or are….” Thomas S. Ferguson was a firm believer and he was sure that archaeology would prove the Book of Mormon. He was an attorney and believed that he knew how to weigh the evidence, once it was found, and a lot of “evidence” was found; but unfortunately for the LDS Church, the evidence did not have any connection to the Book of Mormon. Ferguson spent hundreds of thousands of dollars and 25 years of his life, as a head of “The New World Archaeological Foundation,” funded by the Church. But in spite of all the efforts, by 1970, he had come to the conclusion that all had been in vain, that Joseph Smith was not a prophet, and that Mormonism was not true. Mormon's own the Hill Cumorah yet they do not excavate it because they know there is nothing there from previous digs. An excavation would be a grand embarrassment and would prove the religion is a lie. It did not happen. Look at Mormon Chapter 8 the evidence for it does not exist and evidence would exist if it happened. @@sherigraham3873
A beautiful Spirit was felt whilst listening to this wonderful conversion story. Hearing, Jason talking about the inner voice telling him NOT to burn the book of Mormon reminded me of the time 40 plus years ago when I received the BOM. I remember thinking that the BOM was just going to be a fraud, so I threw it in the bin, but immediately felt an overwhelming sadness for doing that !! Again, it took a few more years before The BOM was again offered to me but this time, I could not and would not deny the Spirit to LISTEN to and PRAY for the TRUTH of The Book of Mormon. Thanks once again for this very uplifting discussion from you both.
The fact is, the bom is a 100% false manmade fraud. It is a manmade abomination, as are all those deceived by it and the con artist joseph smith. Repent!
This interview with Jason Olson was so enlightening and informative. Brother Jason's fascinating journey to become a Latter-day Saint, still embracing and cherishing his Jewish heritage, was so refreshing and eye opening to me. The idea of a Lamb Messiah and a Lion Messiah, his love of the Abinadi story in the Book of Mormon as basically a Jewish prophet, so much more... I enjoy having my own perspectives expanded. I'm know I'm going to enjoy reading The Burning Book. I also appreciate how respectful and understanding and insightful you always are Steven. As a Latter-day Saint, you are still a bit of a mystery to me, but I'd have to say you are one of my favorite Evangelicals. 🙂
I just stumbled on this. I'm so glad I did. My faith is wavering a bit. Haven't been going to church. I really needed to hear everything this had to offer. Thank you..... I feel so much better for watching this.
You might love David Alexander's youtube chanel. He is a new chuch member who spent 47 years as an evangelical. He was raised catholic. He tells of his journey and how evangelicalism saved his life, but he knew things were missing. He tells why it took him so long to find the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
I'll recommend David Alexander's channel, too. He understands the Bible exquisitely well and knows that the foundation of apostles and prophets is critical: apostles called by Jesus and He asks us to do what they say, so we follow them, His servants -> they follow Jesus -> Jesus follows His Father = the way and path of our return home. Just said a prayer for you, dear sister. Also, maybe search out someone at church who needs a friend and be that person's friend. Have as a reason to go to church to help and strengthen others and it will surprise you how much it also strengthens you. Really want to help someone else! Jesus taught that we find ourselves/our lives when we lose ourselves/our lives. The Book of Mormon-Another Testament of Jesus Christ certainly is a witness of Him. It didn't come to the world in a vacuum but through Joseph Smith and the restored church. You are beautiful and capable to serve God and qualify for all the best blessings! One step at a time! Cheers!
I seriously looked at the evidence and was shocked. please turn from the false past humanoid endless Gods of Mormonism to the true God of the bible. Mormons teach that the angel Moroni came down from heaven and gave Joseph Smith the Book of Mormon. Let's hear what God Himself says about this claim in: GALATIANS 1:6-9 "I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who CALLED you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed..." There you are Mormons, God Himself telling you that He did not send any angel from heaven to Joseph Smith. Archeology has found ZERO confirmation of the book of Mormon. The Bible, on the other hand has clear tangible archeological proof of every Bible city, river, nation, king, ruler, coin, country (and hundreds of confirmed Bible stories) have been confirmed from professional archeological controlled digs. It is well known in professional archeological circles that the Book of Mormon has failed to find any connection with the extinct nations of South America (Nasca, Ica etc) and the Book of Mormon. All of the "star archeological witnesses" of the Book of Mormon are either flat out rejected as forgeries, fakes, frauds and fabrications (the 4 F's of archeology) or highly suspect since NONE of them came from controlled professional archeological excavations and ALL of them are unprovenanced.
Please please please PLEASE do a second or even THIRD interview with him to continue this story!!! Seriously my favorite video you have ever put out! I REALLY enjoyed this one!!!
Evidence for Book of Mormon in ancient America- none Evidence showing Book of Mormon is a 19th century religious fiction: No wheat, no barley, no goats, no steel found in the Americas, no metal smelting furnaces, no metal armor, no temples, no steel swords, no skeletons of these warriors, no graves, no cities (it would be impossible for a city the size of Zarahemla to leave no trace), no cattle, no chariot parts, no Nephite coins (listed in book of Alma as being used for a thousand years), no Jewish relics from supposed jews, no metal plates like Nephites supposedly had, no artifacts whatsoever, no Nephite "reformed Egyptian" writings; and no evidence the book of Mormon "prophets" ever existed. There is zero archaeological, anthropological, topological, linguistic, or DNA evidence to support the Book of Mormon. It would be impossible for highly advanced civilizations (Jaredites, Nephites) with millions of people to have vanished off the face of the earth The whole face of the land had become covered with buildings” (Mormon 1:7) “Two million Jaredites slain” (Ether 15:2) 38 cities are catalogued in the Book of Mormon, along with iron, steel, brass, metal swords, breast-plates, shields, armor, or chariots. Yet, not one item mentioned in the Book of Mormon has ever been discovered in America. The Book of Mormon speaks of sheep, swine, goats, wheat, barley, silk, and elephants-even though they weren’t brought to America until centuries later by Europeans in post-Columbian times. Again we see that Joseph Smith was thinking about things in his current day as he was fabricating the Book of Mormon. CAN WE TRUST OUR HEARTS as to book of Mormon since there is no evidence? Maroni chapter 10:4 says: "he will manifest the truth of it unto you" But: THE BIBLE WARNS YOU about trusting your own heart. Jeremiah 17:9 "the heart is deceitful above all things". Proverbs 28:26 "He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool." Please don't be a fool. The entire belief system and premise of Mormonism is based on a false claim the Bible was corrupted and "plain and precious parts" were removed by early Christian translators sometime after the apostles had all died. This is a very dangerous claim to make against the word of God, especially since God promised us his word would never pass away and would be with us forever (Isaiah 40:8; Psalms 100:5; Matthew 16:18, 24:35; 1 Peter 1:23-25). An Objective Test of the Bible and Book of Mormon The Claim: In the Book of Mormon, the prophet Nephi has a vision the Bible was corrupted after the 12 apostles preached it and after the formation of the “great and abominable church” (1 Nephi 13:26-29). Most Mormons believe this to be the Catholic Church which was formed early in the 4th century. Nephi claims this church was founded by the Devil to lead souls to hell (1 Nephi 14:3). So let’s objectively examine both the Bible and the Book of Mormon to be fair and test if any have errors. Bible: The earliest Dead Sea Scrolls have been historically dated by three different dating techniques to as early as 350 BC. Included in this discovery was the Great Isaiah Scroll, which is the oldest known complete copy of the Book of Isaiah and is dated to approximately 200 BC. Study the dead sea scrolls which are over 2,000 years old and see if they have Joseph Smith's uncorrupted version. They should if Joseph Smith was correct and the bible had been corrupted over time but, no they do not. They are the same today as they were over 2,100 years ago with only minor spelling or punctuation differences. Joseph Smith was wrong. The bible had not been corrupted. The new testament has not been corrupted either. Take for example John 1:1 a very important verse than Smith changed to make Jesus a created being. A papyri known as the Bodmer Papyri which is almost 1900 years old. (note that this was written not long after the apostle John would have died and it shows joseph smith changed the book of John, not that it got corrupted later as he alleged) John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. ΕΝ ΑΡΧΗ ΗΝ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΚΑΙ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΗΝ ΠΡΟΣ ΤΟΝ ΘΕΟΝ ΚΑΙ ΘΕΟΣ ΗΝ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ I post this in love. The manuscript and archeological evidence for the bible is the greatest of anything in antiquity. I pray that you know the real Jesus, the alpha and omega of all of creation. Know real peace, love and true salvation.
This was an excellent presentation on a Jewish boy that was searching and praying, and studying to find the truth. It was quite inspiring story. It helps us to know Judaism and the variety of different practicing Jews. To hear you share your journey and your study in various aspects of your search. You came to know that Jesus is the Christ. Wonderful message!
Evidence for Book of Mormon in ancient America- none Evidence showing Book of Mormon is a 19th century religious fiction: No wheat, no barley, no goats, no steel found in the Americas, no metal smelting furnaces, no metal armor, no temples, no steel swords, no skeletons of these warriors, no graves, no cities (it would be impossible for a city the size of Zarahemla to leave no trace), no cattle, no chariot parts, no Nephite coins (listed in book of Alma as being used for a thousand years), no Jewish relics from supposed jews, no metal plates like Nephites supposedly had, no artifacts whatsoever, no Nephite "reformed Egyptian" writings; and no evidence the book of Mormon "prophets" ever existed. There is zero archaeological, anthropological, topological, linguistic, or DNA evidence to support the Book of Mormon. It would be impossible for highly advanced civilizations (Jaredites, Nephites) with millions of people to have vanished off the face of the earth The whole face of the land had become covered with buildings” (Mormon 1:7) “Two million Jaredites slain” (Ether 15:2) 38 cities are catalogued in the Book of Mormon, along with iron, steel, brass, metal swords, breast-plates, shields, armor, or chariots. Yet, not one item mentioned in the Book of Mormon has ever been discovered in America. The Book of Mormon speaks of sheep, swine, goats, wheat, barley, silk, and elephants-even though they weren’t brought to America until centuries later by Europeans in post-Columbian times. Again we see that Joseph Smith was thinking about things in his current day as he was fabricating the Book of Mormon. CAN WE TRUST OUR HEARTS as to book of Mormon since there is no evidence? Maroni chapter 10:4 says: "he will manifest the truth of it unto you" But: THE BIBLE WARNS YOU about trusting your own heart. Jeremiah 17:9 "the heart is deceitful above all things". Proverbs 28:26 "He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool." Please don't be a fool. The entire belief system and premise of Mormonism is based on a false claim the Bible was corrupted and "plain and precious parts" were removed by early Christian translators sometime after the apostles had all died. This is a very dangerous claim to make against the word of God, especially since God promised us his word would never pass away and would be with us forever (Isaiah 40:8; Psalms 100:5; Matthew 16:18, 24:35; 1 Peter 1:23-25). An Objective Test of the Bible and Book of Mormon The Claim: In the Book of Mormon, the prophet Nephi has a vision the Bible was corrupted after the 12 apostles preached it and after the formation of the “great and abominable church” (1 Nephi 13:26-29). Most Mormons believe this to be the Catholic Church which was formed early in the 4th century. Nephi claims this church was founded by the Devil to lead souls to hell (1 Nephi 14:3). So let’s objectively examine both the Bible and the Book of Mormon to be fair and test if any have errors. Bible: The earliest Dead Sea Scrolls have been historically dated by three different dating techniques to as early as 350 BC. Included in this discovery was the Great Isaiah Scroll, which is the oldest known complete copy of the Book of Isaiah and is dated to approximately 200 BC. Study the dead sea scrolls which are over 2,000 years old and see if they have Joseph Smith's uncorrupted version. They should if Joseph Smith was correct and the bible had been corrupted over time but, no they do not. They are the same today as they were over 2,100 years ago with only minor spelling or punctuation differences. Joseph Smith was wrong. The bible had not been corrupted. The new testament has not been corrupted either. Take for example John 1:1 a very important verse than Smith changed to make Jesus a created being. A papyri known as the Bodmer Papyri which is almost 1900 years old. (note that this was written not long after the apostle John would have died and it shows joseph smith changed the book of John, not that it got corrupted later as he alleged) John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. ΕΝ ΑΡΧΗ ΗΝ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΚΑΙ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΗΝ ΠΡΟΣ ΤΟΝ ΘΕΟΝ ΚΑΙ ΘΕΟΣ ΗΝ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ I post this in love. The manuscript and archeological evidence for the bible is the greatest of anything in antiquity. I pray that you know the real Jesus, the alpha and omega of all of creation. Know real peace, love and true salvation.
Proverbs 3:5-6 says, “Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make straight your paths.” Allowing God to be your guide begins with a commitment to trust. The Bible tells us that it is the authoritative, infallible, inerrant, sufficient revelation of God. “EVERY word of God proves TRUE; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him. Do NOT add to his words, lest he rebuke you and you be found a liar” (Proverbs 30:5-6) Why? Because Jesus warned us that “false Christs and false prophets” will come and will attempt to deceive. (Matthew 24:23-27; see also 2 Peter 3:3 and Jude 17-18). The best way to guard yourself against falsehood and false teachers is to know the truth. 2 Timothy 2:15 KJV "Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of TRUTH."
D&C Section 9:8-9 - These sections tell us that if something is true it will make our bosom burn and we will feel that it is right. This is different to how the bible informs us how to tell if something is true. Acts 17:11 "Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and EXAMINED THE SCRIPTURES EVERY DAY to see if what Paul said was true. 12 As a result, many of them believed," 1 Thessalonians 5: 19 Do not quench the Spirit. 20 Do not treat prophecies with contempt 21 but TEST THEM ALL; hold on to what is good, A testimony is the keystone to LDS beliefs. A testimony is something Mormons are taught from a very young age to publicly bear even if a personal testimony has not been developed. A proper Mormon testimony includes five points which have no variation ward to ward, stake to stake, state to state, or country to country. I recall a church manual to teach children what a testimony is and its five points. This highlights a Mormon's testimony is not truly from the heart, but only what they have been trained since birth to declare. The five points are: I know this [LDS] church is the only true church I know Joseph Smith is a prophet of God I know [insert current prophet here] is our current prophet who speaks to God I know we have a Heavenly Father who loves us I know Jesus Christ is the Savior The church likes to tie this “feeling” you get from reading and praying about the Book of Mormon, which helps you gain a testimony (feeling) of its truthfulness. When you have gained a testimony of the truthfulness, then this is a conformation all things in Mormonism must be true because if the Book of Mormon is true, then Joseph Smith must be a prophet and the church must be the only true church. The church wants you to base your entire faith on a “feeling” because if the feeling is good, then everything else is true about the church, regardless of what the Bible, archaeology, anthropology, DNA, linguistics, and all other evidences reveal in opposition regarding Mormonism. Now I am not saying one must not have faith, but there is a difference between a faith in the Bible and Christ which is backed with all sorts of ancient manuscripts, fulfilled prophecies, archaeology, anthropology, etc. versus faith in something which has zero evidence to support its claims. The subconscious phobia indoctrination cultivated by the church instills a belief system rooted in fear, guilt, and shame. You are taught by the church that your testimony is most precious and needs to be strengthened and protected at all costs. This is how feelings can replace facts as any evidence or fact presented will be ignored, denied or rationalized away to protect your belief. God bless your search for TRUTH in the real Jesus.
I'm loving this interview and Jason's story -- and your questions and comments, Steve. I have to stop and make a couple of comments before I watch to the end... In May 2000, I was blessed to be able to take a trip to Israel. (doubly blessed since I was PAID to go as a guide -- well, as a glorified head-counter on the tour bus -- while working for a Salt Lake travel agency at the time. Some friends joined me on that trip and it was glorious!) A few years later, I went with my family to Nauvoo. As I visited the Church sites, I anticipated being able to feel the Spirit as I toured Liberty Jail, Carthage, etc. There is a special Spirit to Nauvoo for sure, but it wasn't quite hitting me... until -- we visited Adam-Ondi-Ahman. THAT's where I really felt that familiar Spirit of an ancient, sacred, holy place -- and recognized it as the same feeling I had when I visited Israel. I couldn't have made that connection unless I had already been in Israel and Jerusalem, and it really resonated with me.
Evidence for Book of Mormon in ancient America- none Evidence showing Book of Mormon is a 19th century religious fiction: No wheat, no barley, no goats, no steel found in the Americas, no metal smelting furnaces, no metal armor, no temples, no steel swords, no skeletons of these warriors, no graves, no cities (it would be impossible for a city the size of Zarahemla to leave no trace), no cattle, no chariot parts, no Nephite coins (listed in book of Alma as being used for a thousand years), no Jewish relics from supposed jews, no metal plates like Nephites supposedly had, no artifacts whatsoever, no Nephite "reformed Egyptian" writings; and no evidence the book of Mormon "prophets" ever existed. There is zero archaeological, anthropological, topological, linguistic, or DNA evidence to support the Book of Mormon. It would be impossible for highly advanced civilizations (Jaredites, Nephites) with millions of people to have vanished off the face of the earth The whole face of the land had become covered with buildings” (Mormon 1:7) “Two million Jaredites slain” (Ether 15:2) 38 cities are catalogued in the Book of Mormon, along with iron, steel, brass, metal swords, breast-plates, shields, armor, or chariots. Yet, not one item mentioned in the Book of Mormon has ever been discovered in America. The Book of Mormon speaks of sheep, swine, goats, wheat, barley, silk, and elephants-even though they weren’t brought to America until centuries later by Europeans in post-Columbian times. Again we see that Joseph Smith was thinking about things in his current day as he was fabricating the Book of Mormon. CAN WE TRUST OUR HEARTS as to book of Mormon since there is no evidence? Maroni chapter 10:4 says: "he will manifest the truth of it unto you" But: THE BIBLE WARNS YOU about trusting your own heart. Jeremiah 17:9 "the heart is deceitful above all things". Proverbs 28:26 "He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool." Please don't be a fool. The entire belief system and premise of Mormonism is based on a false claim the Bible was corrupted and "plain and precious parts" were removed by early Christian translators sometime after the apostles had all died. This is a very dangerous claim to make against the word of God, especially since God promised us his word would never pass away and would be with us forever (Isaiah 40:8; Psalms 100:5; Matthew 16:18, 24:35; 1 Peter 1:23-25). An Objective Test of the Bible and Book of Mormon The Claim: In the Book of Mormon, the prophet Nephi has a vision the Bible was corrupted after the 12 apostles preached it and after the formation of the “great and abominable church” (1 Nephi 13:26-29). Most Mormons believe this to be the Catholic Church which was formed early in the 4th century. Nephi claims this church was founded by the Devil to lead souls to hell (1 Nephi 14:3). So let’s objectively examine both the Bible and the Book of Mormon to be fair and test if any have errors. Bible: The earliest Dead Sea Scrolls have been historically dated by three different dating techniques to as early as 350 BC. Included in this discovery was the Great Isaiah Scroll, which is the oldest known complete copy of the Book of Isaiah and is dated to approximately 200 BC. Study the dead sea scrolls which are over 2,000 years old and see if they have Joseph Smith's uncorrupted version. They should if Joseph Smith was correct and the bible had been corrupted over time but, no they do not. They are the same today as they were over 2,100 years ago with only minor spelling or punctuation differences. Joseph Smith was wrong. The bible had not been corrupted. The new testament has not been corrupted either. Take for example John 1:1 a very important verse than Smith changed to make Jesus a created being. A papyri known as the Bodmer Papyri which is almost 1900 years old. (note that this was written not long after the apostle John would have died and it shows joseph smith changed the book of John, not that it got corrupted later as he alleged) John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. ΕΝ ΑΡΧΗ ΗΝ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΚΑΙ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΗΝ ΠΡΟΣ ΤΟΝ ΘΕΟΝ ΚΑΙ ΘΕΟΣ ΗΝ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ I post this in love. The manuscript and archeological evidence for the bible is the greatest of anything in antiquity. I pray that you know the real Jesus, the alpha and omega of all of creation. Know real peace, love and true salvation.
I will follow this channel based on this interview. Wow! The interview was amazing and the guest was treated with the utmost respect. His story is beautiful. Thank you❤
Wonderful, wonderful job guys. Thank you so very much for sharing, Jason. Excellent job Steven. You two get it. It's about the heart. Helping people recognize the light that is in them and the Light that is God and connecting the two so they can then shine. Jason, this might be a complete shock to Benny Friedman, but many of my favorite gospel songs are Jewish songs by singers who probably have no idea that some Christian guy wakes up every morning and listens to their music to help me focus on God. We can all strengthen each other while ignoring the accuser by refusing to contend about our differences.
Wow!! An LDS Naval Chaplain. That means we went to the same October Chaplain training seminars in SLC, in the COB, 24th floor, and broke bread together on the 26th floor and probably have common friends. We both served under the same fearless leaders, Frank and Rick. Love those guys. My respect. I retired on my 70th birthday. We've probably met. I was wondering how you knew so much and how you were able to speak so back and forth on religious topics, not your religion. That's why. You're a US Naval Chaplain. Lt. Commander. No small fry. A really great convo. I salute.
Enjoyed the conversation immensely! Would love to see more interviews like this again. BTW, I went and ordered his book! Looking forward to reading it!
This is very interesting!! Thx to you and to him. I'm 72. I've been lds my whole life. Totally loved it, talked it up, served as 1st counselor in two different wards, member of the high council, two different stakes, ward mission leader twice, two different wards, and I'm the first law enforcement chaplain for the Church. Loved everything. Then you find out. I'll leave it there. But I too feel the BOM has truth in it, I just don't how much or from where it came but I still love it and believe in it. I could never disrespect it, too many Jesus stories in it. I'm hoping it can find a home. A place of origin. An actual people. Anyway, loved your story. Very inspiring. Thank you.
@@samueljeppsen9785 God called all his spirit children to the grand council,to present His plan for our progress, we were all there and so was Jesus and Lucifer . He was one of our spirit brothers that sought Gods glory and to take away our agency. He was rejected and very ticked off and has fought against our Saviour ever since. Plus all he can do to take away as many of us he can. We all need to hold tight to the iron rod. Carol
Really loved that conversation about the universality of heaven taught by latter day revelations. Our missionary elders told me once about an encounter they had where a Christian told them “If I’m right and you’re wrong, I go to heaven and you’ll go to hell. If you’re right and I’m wrong, I still get a degree of glory” - interesting approach, I thought. I said to the Elders I know in whom I believe - the Jesus Christ who is mighty to save will beat that “bouncer” version of Jesus Christ any day!!! Whosoever will may come! I do want to qualify that hell is still a real experience for those who rejected Christ before the final judgment- those folks will be paying for their own sins, or at least a measure thereof (as a result of rejecting Christ’s atonement), before being ultimately redeemed when they finally receive him as their Savior.
My father was also a Navy Chaplain and member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, in the 80s and 90s. I'd love to hear more of Jason's experience in that realm. Im sure he was respected for his education and knowledge.
This was an AWESOME VIDEO!!! Thank you both for sharing Jason's amazing conversation story! I want to read his book! Jason did you realize you were the same age as Joseph Smith, when he went to pray to God about which church to join? Age 14 it's such a tender age. I am amazed that you read the Book of Mormon all night long! You really did gain a "burning in your bosom" for the Book you were about to burn! That beautiful, wonderful Book of Mormon that testifies that Jesus Christ truly is the Savior of the whole world! He is The Lion and the Lamb just as you pointed out. I have never ever thought of it that way. I'm amazed about your fourteen-year-old friend that knew how to go through those scriptures in the Book of Mormon and mark them for you so that you could see how Jesus Christ was both The Lion and the Lamb. What are smart young man he was and totally led by the Spirit to know what to mark in the Book for you. Your perspective of the Book of Mormon just blew me away! Thank you so much for your life experiences and your testimony of the truth, that Jesus is the real, true Messiah of the whole Earth! I loved how you did not put Jesus in a box and say that he could have the power to go teach other nations throughout the world. I absolutely believe that He not only went to the Nephites and Lamanites in Ancient America but that He went all over the world and taught his gospel to other sheep of His fold all around the world. There is a book called "He walked the Americas". It's about this Great God that went to the islands of the sea and all over the Earth to teach his ways of Love, Kindness, Healing and Service. It's on Amazon. The Author L.Taylor Hansen who is not a Member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, wrote this book back in the 1960s. He went and researched the oral histories and stories of many different indigenous Indian tribes all over the Americas, Australia, New Zealand and the Polynesian Islands. Every single one of the tribes have stories of a great God that came to teach His ways of Love. This should be part of your book review!
One part of the bible that I love is how history shows it true and I try and read up on all knew discoveries. I was elated to study the dead sea scrolls found in Qumran which showed beyond any doubt that the old testament had not been corrupted as 1 Nephi chapter 13 said: "the loss of many plain and precious parts of the bible" had occurred. This is why Nephi said there was the need for "the restoration of the gospel, the coming forth of latter-day scripture". 1 Nephi 13: 26 says "after .. the twelve apostles of the Lamb, ... the formation of that great and abominable church, ... for behold, they have taken away from the gospel of the lamb many parts which are plain and most precious". The notes at the bottom say Nephi made this prophesy between 600 and 592 B.C. Then 1 Nephi 13:30 says: "because of these things which are taken away out of the gospel ... Satan hath great power over them". Then, 1 Nephi 14:3 says because of this "the devil... lead away the souls of men down to hell". But the dead sea scrolls proved this prophecy is false as the scrolls found in cave 1 show that the old testament we have is not corrupted like Nephi said. And the other caves have proven this also with more books of the old testament. Jesus said he was the "word" of God and was one with the Father (not a previous humanoid) as a false prophet would say. God bless you.
Evidence for Book of Mormon in ancient America- none Evidence showing Book of Mormon is a 19th century religious fiction: No wheat, no barley, no goats, no steel found in the Americas, no metal smelting furnaces, no metal armor, no temples, no steel swords, no skeletons of these warriors, no graves, no cities (it would be impossible for a city the size of Zarahemla to leave no trace), no cattle, no chariot parts, no Nephite coins (listed in book of Alma as being used for a thousand years), no Jewish relics from supposed jews, no metal plates like Nephites supposedly had, no artifacts whatsoever, no Nephite "reformed Egyptian" writings; and no evidence the book of Mormon "prophets" ever existed. There is zero archaeological, anthropological, topological, linguistic, or DNA evidence to support the Book of Mormon. It would be impossible for highly advanced civilizations (Jaredites, Nephites) with millions of people to have vanished off the face of the earth The whole face of the land had become covered with buildings” (Mormon 1:7) “Two million Jaredites slain” (Ether 15:2) 38 cities are catalogued in the Book of Mormon, along with iron, steel, brass, metal swords, breast-plates, shields, armor, or chariots. Yet, not one item mentioned in the Book of Mormon has ever been discovered in America. The Book of Mormon speaks of sheep, swine, goats, wheat, barley, silk, and elephants-even though they weren’t brought to America until centuries later by Europeans in post-Columbian times. Again we see that Joseph Smith was thinking about things in his current day as he was fabricating the Book of Mormon. CAN WE TRUST OUR HEARTS as to book of Mormon since there is no evidence? Maroni chapter 10:4 says: "he will manifest the truth of it unto you" But: THE BIBLE WARNS YOU about trusting your own heart. Jeremiah 17:9 "the heart is deceitful above all things". Proverbs 28:26 "He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool." Please don't be a fool. The entire belief system and premise of Mormonism is based on a false claim the Bible was corrupted and "plain and precious parts" were removed by early Christian translators sometime after the apostles had all died. This is a very dangerous claim to make against the word of God, especially since God promised us his word would never pass away and would be with us forever (Isaiah 40:8; Psalms 100:5; Matthew 16:18, 24:35; 1 Peter 1:23-25). An Objective Test of the Bible and Book of Mormon The Claim: In the Book of Mormon, the prophet Nephi has a vision the Bible was corrupted after the 12 apostles preached it and after the formation of the “great and abominable church” (1 Nephi 13:26-29). Most Mormons believe this to be the Catholic Church which was formed early in the 4th century. Nephi claims this church was founded by the Devil to lead souls to hell (1 Nephi 14:3). So let’s objectively examine both the Bible and the Book of Mormon to be fair and test if any have errors. Bible: The earliest Dead Sea Scrolls have been historically dated by three different dating techniques to as early as 350 BC. Included in this discovery was the Great Isaiah Scroll, which is the oldest known complete copy of the Book of Isaiah and is dated to approximately 200 BC. Study the dead sea scrolls which are over 2,000 years old and see if they have Joseph Smith's uncorrupted version. They should if Joseph Smith was correct and the bible had been corrupted over time but, no they do not. They are the same today as they were over 2,100 years ago with only minor spelling or punctuation differences. Joseph Smith was wrong. The bible had not been corrupted. The new testament has not been corrupted either. Take for example John 1:1 a very important verse than Smith changed to make Jesus a created being. A papyri known as the Bodmer Papyri which is almost 1900 years old. (note that this was written not long after the apostle John would have died and it shows joseph smith changed the book of John, not that it got corrupted later as he alleged) John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. ΕΝ ΑΡΧΗ ΗΝ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΚΑΙ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΗΝ ΠΡΟΣ ΤΟΝ ΘΕΟΝ ΚΑΙ ΘΕΟΣ ΗΝ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ I post this in love. The manuscript and archeological evidence for the bible is the greatest of anything in antiquity. I pray that you know the real Jesus, the alpha and omega of all of creation. Know real peace, love and true salvation.
@brettpinion4233 The revelations in that chapter of 1 Nephi has a lot of indication that it's referring to the time after the Bible's completion. So even though the revelation came during the time period of the Old Testament the revelation was referring to the time period of the great apostasy which is after the New Testament was completed. And thank you - God bless you also. 🙏
@@josephine79 I agree. But the dead sea scrolls are older than the great apostacy it speaks of and we see the old testament in the bible is the same today as it was over 2,100 years ago before the great apostasy. Joseph Smith was wrong. The old testament was not corrupted. The scrolls could not have been touched by the Catholics. Also this scroll is a Jewish production, and the Book of Mormon claims that the Jews had the Scriptures in their "purity". LDS Apologist Wayne Ham was forced to the conclusion that the Isaiah scroll does not support the text in the Book of Mormon. Mormon apologist Dr. Sidney B. Sperry, of Brigham Young University, had to admit that the Dead Sea Scrolls do not help the case for the Book of Mormon but uphold the validity of the bible. Please consider and I would love to hear your thoughts. God of the bible bless you.
Thanks for this. Iam reading this in kenya kambu town i will share this in all my groups its interesting iam a faithful latter-day saint baptished when i was 14years
So let’s objectively examine both the Bible and the Book of Mormon to be fair and test if any have errors. Book of Mormon: “The whole face of the land had become covered with buildings” (Mormon 1:7) “Two million Jaredites slain” (Ether 15:2) 38 cities are catalogued in the Book of Mormon, along with iron, steel, brass, metal swords, breast-plates, shields, armor, or chariots. Yet, not one item mentioned in the Book of Mormon has ever been discovered in America. The Book of Mormon speaks of sheep, swine, goats, wheat, barley, silk, and elephants-even though they weren’t brought to America until centuries later by Europeans in post-Columbian times. Again we see that Joseph Smith was thinking about things in his current day as he was fabricating the Book of Mormon. Bible: Today roughly 40,000 combinations of manuscripts exist of the Old and New Testaments proving them to be by far the most verifiable and trusted documents of antiquity. Many of these Old Testament manuscripts are decades and centuries before the birth of Jesus. Namely, the Dead Sea Scrolls, one of the most significant discoveries since antiquity, were discovered in 1947, over 100 years after the Book of Mormon was accusing the Bible of being corrupted. This discovery is remarkably important, especially for the Mormon, because prior to this discovery, the oldest known complete Old Testament manuscript in existence was the Masoretic Text from around 980 AD. Since 980 AD is well after the Book of Mormon claims when the corruption of the Bible occurred, it was impossible to prove the perfect preservation of the Bible.
Okay, I wish I knew this when Jason was my ministering brother in Pyeongtaek, Korea. I did hear a little at our military district conference earlier this year before he left. We love Jason and his companion Caleb. Fortunately, I was in the circle when we set Caleb as a missionary shortly after Jason returned back to the states. Awesome interview.
@@loudogg73 ,...Perhaps, However, my point was, this is only interesting to those who do not understand the Bible and who are outside of the kingdom of God. Mormonism is a 100% false, manmade, unbiblical, antigod, antibible, antichrist, religion of the accursed of God, (the spiritually dead and blind).
@hewhohasearstohearlethimhe9509 Can you elaborate on your comment please? What do mean by "Perhaps to the spiritually dead and blind"? Thanks. And I agree with @loudogg73, "that's a weird thing to say". God bless you and yours and take care.
@@jonathanray7931 ,...As I explained to loudog,... Perhaps, However, my point was, this is only interesting to those who do not understand the Bible and who are outside of the kingdom of God. Mormonism is a 100% false, manmade, unbiblical, antigod, antibible, antichrist, religion of the accursed of God, (the spiritually dead and blind).
At 1hour:1 minute, you said you talked to Rabbi Kravitz. Is that Rabbi Bob Kravitz of Scottsdale Arizona? If so, I love that guy!! We were chaplains together with the Arizona DPS. (Highway Patrol) I have a tremendous amount of respect for him. He was one of the chaplains that helped me through my LDS faith crisis.
He WASN'T curious about what they "BELIEVED" , he was interested in DEBUNKING their beliefs , in an effort to gain SOMETHING to believe at the same time as he was looking to bolster his own budding set of beliefs . This is NOT unusual in the conscious _purposeful_ doubter/skeptic , but to HIS credit , he WAS willing to _challenge_ his *own* burgeoning prejudices . Good for _him_ !
I find he’s very much rooted in Jewish teaching and tradition . Paul had much work changing the beliefs of the Jews ,who believed in Jesus as the Messiah , because they couldn’t understand the law of Moses was fulfilled and now obsolete. I can understand how difficult it must be to change when one was so immersed in Jewish study and tradition.
My son is a Messianic Jew and he tries to pick a fight with our faith. He has told me that my husband and I are going to HELL!! We are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
This channel is one of the oddest channels I have come across. I don’t really understand why an evangelical would want to review LDS books. What is his motivation? But that being said, I enjoyed this guest. I am going to buy his book. I love books by Avraham Gileadi as a Jewish convert before he converted to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
So let’s objectively examine both the Bible and the Book of Mormon to be fair and test if any have errors. Book of Mormon: “The whole face of the land had become covered with buildings” (Mormon 1:7) “Two million Jaredites slain” (Ether 15:2) 38 cities are catalogued in the Book of Mormon, along with iron, steel, brass, metal swords, breast-plates, shields, armor, or chariots. Yet, not one item mentioned in the Book of Mormon has ever been discovered in America. The Book of Mormon speaks of sheep, swine, goats, wheat, barley, silk, and elephants-even though they weren’t brought to America until centuries later by Europeans in post-Columbian times. Again we see that Joseph Smith was thinking about things in his current day as he was fabricating the Book of Mormon. Bible: Today roughly 40,000 combinations of manuscripts exist of the Old and New Testaments proving them to be by far the most verifiable and trusted documents of antiquity. Many of these Old Testament manuscripts are decades and centuries before the birth of Jesus. Namely, the Dead Sea Scrolls, one of the most significant discoveries since antiquity, were discovered in 1947, over 100 years after the Book of Mormon was accusing the Bible of being corrupted. This discovery is remarkably important, especially for the Mormon, because prior to this discovery, the oldest known complete Old Testament manuscript in existence was the Masoretic Text from around 980 AD. Since 980 AD is well after the Book of Mormon claims when the corruption of the Bible occurred, it was impossible to prove the perfect preservation of the Bible.
40:14 this is super important, because a lot of people do not understand the power of the book of Mormon has to convert people, especially the Jews unto the Jesus Christ
I think this is a wonderful interview and extremely fascinating. I have started reading this book and appreciate the story and journey. I would strongly recommend and suggest we follow the prophet Russell M Nelson and refer to our church as the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. There in fact is no such thing as a Mormon Church and there is not a faith of Mormonism. These are and have been used as derogatory terms and we have been directed by modern day revelation to refer to the Lords church as He has asked and founded.
@Jason Olson When did you work on the "Joseph Smith Papers"? Which part? Did you happen to meet or know a Lara Sadler Petersen who also worked on them? I think she was a copywriter and had some other roles as well. But anyway she is a first cousin of mine on my mom and her mom's side of the family who are sisters to each other. Cool to hear you talk about the "Joseph Smith Papers". God bless you and yours and take care.
Rabbi Tovia Singer's a treasure. I heard the "In the Book" podcast episode before I read the book. Didn't know the Rabbi was the person he was referencing." I would like to meet him, such an interesting person.
I'm not Jewish, but in our house, we do celebrate Rosh Hashana and the Day of Atonement, Passover, etc. Not with animal sacrifices but it's a good time to sit with the family and have fun eating while seeing how these feast point to Jesus. The Spring Festivals of Passover and Pentecost are fulfilled with Christ earthly ministry and the early apostles. The fall festivals starting with Rosh Hashana point to the Restoration, Second Coming, and Millennium. Joseph Smith received the gold plates on Rosh Hashin 1827, plus section 29 as well as others of the Doctrine and Covenants were given in that 10 day period of reflection between Rosh Hashana and Day of Atonement in 1830. The them behind that section is about emphasizing Christ Atonement, sounding of Trumpets, gather and the millennial reign.
Jason: At :57 ish, your Rabbi talks abt how you made a spiritual covenant before you were born … do Jews believe in a pre-mortality life then? I’ve wondered abt this before.
28:33 BoM Title page ? Professor Stephen H Webb wrote his book about "Jesus Christ, Eternal God.." and came as a guest from Wabash University to BYU Interpreter Foundation. 39:55
Evidence for Book of Mormon in ancient America- none Evidence showing Book of Mormon is a 19th century religious fiction: No wheat, no barley, no goats, no steel found in the Americas, no metal smelting furnaces, no metal armor, no temples, no steel swords, no skeletons of these warriors, no graves, no cities (it would be impossible for a city the size of Zarahemla to leave no trace), no cattle, no chariot parts, no Nephite coins (listed in book of Alma as being used for a thousand years), no Jewish relics from supposed jews, no metal plates like Nephites supposedly had, no artifacts whatsoever, no Nephite "reformed Egyptian" writings; and no evidence the book of Mormon "prophets" ever existed. There is zero archaeological, anthropological, topological, linguistic, or DNA evidence to support the Book of Mormon. It would be impossible for highly advanced civilizations (Jaredites, Nephites) with millions of people to have vanished off the face of the earth The whole face of the land had become covered with buildings” (Mormon 1:7) “Two million Jaredites slain” (Ether 15:2) 38 cities are catalogued in the Book of Mormon, along with iron, steel, brass, metal swords, breast-plates, shields, armor, or chariots. Yet, not one item mentioned in the Book of Mormon has ever been discovered in America. The Book of Mormon speaks of sheep, swine, goats, wheat, barley, silk, and elephants-even though they weren’t brought to America until centuries later by Europeans in post-Columbian times. Again we see that Joseph Smith was thinking about things in his current day as he was fabricating the Book of Mormon. CAN WE TRUST OUR HEARTS as to book of Mormon since there is no evidence? Maroni chapter 10:4 says: "he will manifest the truth of it unto you" But: THE BIBLE WARNS YOU about trusting your own heart. Jeremiah 17:9 "the heart is deceitful above all things". Proverbs 28:26 "He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool." Please don't be a fool. The entire belief system and premise of Mormonism is based on a false claim the Bible was corrupted and "plain and precious parts" were removed by early Christian translators sometime after the apostles had all died. This is a very dangerous claim to make against the word of God, especially since God promised us his word would never pass away and would be with us forever (Isaiah 40:8; Psalms 100:5; Matthew 16:18, 24:35; 1 Peter 1:23-25). An Objective Test of the Bible and Book of Mormon The Claim: In the Book of Mormon, the prophet Nephi has a vision the Bible was corrupted after the 12 apostles preached it and after the formation of the “great and abominable church” (1 Nephi 13:26-29). Most Mormons believe this to be the Catholic Church which was formed early in the 4th century. Nephi claims this church was founded by the Devil to lead souls to hell (1 Nephi 14:3). So let’s objectively examine both the Bible and the Book of Mormon to be fair and test if any have errors. Bible: The earliest Dead Sea Scrolls have been historically dated by three different dating techniques to as early as 350 BC. Included in this discovery was the Great Isaiah Scroll, which is the oldest known complete copy of the Book of Isaiah and is dated to approximately 200 BC. Study the dead sea scrolls which are over 2,000 years old and see if they have Joseph Smith's uncorrupted version. They should if Joseph Smith was correct and the bible had been corrupted over time but, no they do not. They are the same today as they were over 2,100 years ago with only minor spelling or punctuation differences. Joseph Smith was wrong. The bible had not been corrupted. The new testament has not been corrupted either. Take for example John 1:1 a very important verse than Smith changed to make Jesus a created being. A papyri known as the Bodmer Papyri which is almost 1900 years old. (note that this was written not long after the apostle John would have died and it shows joseph smith changed the book of John, not that it got corrupted later as he alleged) John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. ΕΝ ΑΡΧΗ ΗΝ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΚΑΙ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΗΝ ΠΡΟΣ ΤΟΝ ΘΕΟΝ ΚΑΙ ΘΕΟΣ ΗΝ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ I post this in love. The manuscript and archeological evidence for the bible is the greatest of anything in antiquity. I pray that you know the real Jesus, the alpha and omega of all of creation. Know real peace, love and true salvation.
YES I LIKE THIS VIDEO. GREAT PERSPECTIVE. AN EYE OPENER. A GEAD TURNER. THANKS TO MBR FOR ALLOWING A THOUGHTFUL, OPEN DISCUSSION. GREATFUL, CHANGED MORE INTELLIGENT I FUL. WE LIVE IN AN AGE JUST BEFORE THE 2ND COMING OF CHRIST. DO WE CAN BE MORE LEARNED, INTELLIGENCE, STUDIOUS.
I too have read the book of Mormon. A very good friend gave it to me. I was quite confused because it has the exact words of the Christian Bible in many places, which preceded the book of Mormon. My verification for any “Holy Book” follows: IS it historical? I can’t find the history that Mormons claim. If you know where it is, please share. IS there archeological proof? Again, I haven’t seen any for the Book of Mormon. IS there scientific proof?
The first 40 pages have been archaeologically supported. They've discovered location where Ishmael was buried (Nahom) and for further credibility, have discovered a burial site that buried guest with a headstone for Ishmael. They've also discovered, in the 20th century, the Narrative of Zosimus, about a man leaving Jerusalem, doing most of the things Lehi and his company did, then leaving for a "blessed land" where the Messiah appears to them.
Thank you for your sincere questions. The answer depends largely on whether you believe the Book of Mormon, another Testament of Jesus Christ, is a work of fiction -- 156,000 words written by Joseph Smith, an unlearned farm boy, over about 85 days in 1829. Or translated by the gift and power of God, over those same 85 days, from an ancient record left intentionally by holy prophets who dwelt in the Americas between 600 BC and 400 AD. As a comparison, J.R.R. Tolkien took over 12 years to write The Lord of the Rings series and 6+ years for CS Lewis to write The Chronicles of Narnia. I would invite you to do an internet search "on who assembled the books of the Bible". You will find that the current New Testament underwent much debate and controversy from 180 AD to around 400 AD, with much less debate over the books of Old Testament. The Book of Mormon is the stick of Joseph that the prophet Ezekiel saw would become one with the stick of Judah in chapter 34. Both are evidence that our great God in Heaven is no respecter of persons (Acts 10:34) and is the God of the entire earth. The Book of Mormon contains and account of cataclysmic destruction that occurring at the time of Christ's crucifixion followed by the resurrected Savior, Jesus Christ, visiting and teaching his other sheep just as He said He would in John 10:16. (see 3 Neph 8-23). There is a lot of archeological evidence connecting the Book of Mormon to scientific discoveries in Ancient America. One of many well written books is, Messiah in Ancient America by Bruce Warrenand Stuart Thomas. I hope this helps. Best wishes in gaining a better understanding of the Book of Mormon.
These are good questions and to start, you may remember that Lehi's family brought with them from Jerusalem scriptures on brass plates which belonged to the tribe of Joseph and was their copy of the Old Testament. It would have been almost identical to the tribe of Judah's copy of the Old Testament which is where the Bible was taken from. In the Book of Mormon they often quoted from these plates of scriptures - especially from the words of Isaiah. In the same way Prophets in the Old and New Testament in the Bible quoted past Prophets, so did the Prophets in the Book of Mormon. You also asked for evidences that support the Book of Mormon. Others have shared some good ones above and I'll share some too below. But foremost, we recommend asking God, who knows all things, sincerely if it is true. As Christ has said it is blessed if "flesh and blood hath not revealed it to you, but my Father which is in Heaven." But here are a few more of the evidences which support the Book of Mormon. Each one below includes links for both LDS and outside sources... •Steel recently discovered to exist before the time of Lehi's family in Jerusalem which was 600 BC and not far from them, likely owned by some high dignitaries, such as rulers or military leaders. This supports that King Laban's sword could have been made of steel as the Book of Mormon describes... newatlas.com/science/archeological-discovery-steel-used-earlier/ (Isreal Museum Journal - the Vered Jericho sword was steel and existed during 7th century BC...) books.google.com.au/books?id=WJdaAAAAIAAJ&q=Vered+Jericho&redir_esc=y ruclips.net/video/BG7YKl7tSfY/видео.html ruclips.net/video/uXAIkM13apc/видео.html bookofmormoncentral.org/qa/how-could-laban-have-possessed-a-sword-of-%E2%80%9Cmost-precious-steel%E2%80%9D •LiDAR scanners This newer technology has revealed that much larger civilizations existed in the Americas than what was previously known or thought which fits the descriptions of the large civilizations in the Book of Mormon and it also shows these large civilizations existed during the time the Book of Mormon takes place. (Also, other areas of the Americas than just the ones I have included have had LiDar and burial discoveries, such as the mounds in North America) bookofmormoncentral.org/blog/4-ways-the-new-maya-discoveries-may-relate-to-the-book-of-mormon www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/maya-laser-lidar-guatemala-pacunam -Along with what @DiffQ_bro shared about a recently discovered ancient grave site that belongs to a man named Ishmael at the right time period and location of Nahom as mentioned in the Book of Mormon... Before that, but also fairly recent (1980s) they discovered the ancient inscription "NHM" at that location where the Book of Mormon says the area of Nahom was at and it also existed at the time of Lehi's family in 600 BC. How ancient the names of places were was not revealed on maps so even if Joseph Smith could have had access to the rare maps that included that name (which were held no where near his location), they did not reveal which names were called that anciently as far back as the time of Lehi's family... ruclips.net/video/EOPFob0cjfw/видео.html www.kialo.com/the-burial-place-of-nahom-mentioned-during-lehis-travels-in-arabia-three-altars-with-the-name-nhm-hebrew-for-nahom-have-4628.1118?path=4628.0~4628.1-4628.2525_4628.2459-4628.270_4628.1118 ruclips.net/video/fa9cInqwO6s/видео.html •Stylometric Analysis Independent stylometric analysis of the Book of Mormon shows there are 28 different individual styles of writing which do not match Joseph Smith's or any of his associates. While it says maybe a handful of different styles could potentially be pulled off by a skilled writer, it would be highly unlikely to impossible to accomplish 28 distinct styles. And in Joseph Smith's time this science did not exist nor was the concept known that distinct writing styles could ever be detected to reveal the actual writer. So Joseph Smith wouldn't have had any reason to consider he would need to have 28 different people write it to keep the appearance that it was authentic, nor could they find anyone he knew who matched the writing styles that are in the Book of Mormon... knowhy.bookofmormoncentral.org/knowhy/is-it-possible-that-a-single-author-wrote-the-book-of-mormon christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/92453/how-do-non-lds-christians-respond-to-the-stylometry-argument-for-the-authenticit •Hebraisms throughout the Book of Mormon ruclips.net/video/7_xbqr5WZ_o/видео.html mit.irr.org/land-of-promise-and-hebraisms-in-book-of-mormon •Stela 5, Izapa (while the LDS church does *not* claim this as a carving of Lehi's dream, this artifact found at the archeological site of Izapa does have over a dozen corresponding figures in it that align with Lehi's dream from the Book of Mormon, indicating this may be a depiction of the dream, carved by the people who lived anciently in the area of Chiapas, Mexico) www.livingheritagetours.com/lehis-dream-mexico/ rsc.byu.edu/book-mormon-first-nephi-doctrinal-foundation/stela-5-izapa-laymans-consideration-tree-life-stone Something else to consider is since the percentage of the Old World that has been scouted is significantly higher than the New World, there is naturally much more discovered in the Old World and still a majority left of the New World to be scouted and discovered. For many more evidences that support the Book of Mormon, I recommend the RUclips channel Book of Mormon Central. I hope this helps and God bless you and your family. 🙏
Remember that the book was compiled in 400AD by Mormon who knew of the biblical Jesus and was transcribed into the printers copy and then again by the printer, so there are lots of places where things could have been "corrected" by using the Bible at the time to correlate verses. Fur example, the book of Mormon quotes Isaiah a lot and the book of Mormon aligns the verses to match the Bible, even though both original works didn't have chapters or verses, but it's just convenient to the reader. So as Moroni said, if there are mistakes, they are the mistakes of men and do not condemn the things of God.
I keep getting the feeling I should include to my comment above that "fless and blood" refers to a mortal body and "flesh and bones" refers to a resurrected body as Jesus described he had to the apostles after His resurrection. I hope that helps not to confuse our beliefs in the kind of body our Father in Heaven has. He does not have blood as this is a mortal feature of the body, but a body of flesh and bones which is immortal. I hope this helps.
The Book of Mormon shows Jesus Christ as fulfilling all the prophecies of the Messiah as he visits a branch of Israel that had migrated to ancient America two thousand years ago. It is a foretaste of what he will do at the Second Coming.
1:21:20 it fulfills the scripture in Isaiah that says “Ephraim shall mot vex Judah”. Ephraim is those British Israelites who came and lived in Zion (the New Jerusalem or SLC area which is the same as the Old Jerusalem turned upside down)
Acts 20:28 Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood. 29For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. 30Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves. 31Therefore watch, and remember that for three years I did not cease to warn everyone night and day with tears.
Very educational, interesting, and inspirational. I wonder why Jason Olson pronounces SINAI as SI'-A-NY...it seems we should say Se-'nay or Se'-nie. What is considered correct?
Thank you so much for your conversion story. Jason - I would like to say that LDS do have a pretty big heaven. Most will go there, but they will get a 2nd chance when they are resurrected to accept Christ. Matt 25 and Revelation make it clear that the wicked are resurrected. However, those who have not yet accepted Christ in the spirit world of Hell or Spirit Prison will lose their chance to gain the celestial kingdom by waiting to accept Christ until their resurrection at their judgment, because they lacked valiance. This is where Christ went before His resurrection to teach those who could live godly according to 1 Peter 3. After His resurrection Christ told Mary He had not yet ascended to His Father in Heaven. He had been in Paradise and Spirit Prison.
Evidence for Book of Mormon in ancient America- none Evidence showing Book of Mormon is a 19th century religious fiction: No wheat, no barley, no goats, no steel found in the Americas, no metal smelting furnaces, no metal armor, no temples, no steel swords, no skeletons of these warriors, no graves, no cities (it would be impossible for a city the size of Zarahemla to leave no trace), no cattle, no chariot parts, no Nephite coins (listed in book of Alma as being used for a thousand years), no Jewish relics from supposed jews, no metal plates like Nephites supposedly had, no artifacts whatsoever, no Nephite "reformed Egyptian" writings; and no evidence the book of Mormon "prophets" ever existed. There is zero archaeological, anthropological, topological, linguistic, or DNA evidence to support the Book of Mormon. It would be impossible for highly advanced civilizations (Jaredites, Nephites) with millions of people to have vanished off the face of the earth The whole face of the land had become covered with buildings” (Mormon 1:7) “Two million Jaredites slain” (Ether 15:2) 38 cities are catalogued in the Book of Mormon, along with iron, steel, brass, metal swords, breast-plates, shields, armor, or chariots. Yet, not one item mentioned in the Book of Mormon has ever been discovered in America. The Book of Mormon speaks of sheep, swine, goats, wheat, barley, silk, and elephants-even though they weren’t brought to America until centuries later by Europeans in post-Columbian times. Again we see that Joseph Smith was thinking about things in his current day as he was fabricating the Book of Mormon. CAN WE TRUST OUR HEARTS as to book of Mormon since there is no evidence? Maroni chapter 10:4 says: "he will manifest the truth of it unto you" But: THE BIBLE WARNS YOU about trusting your own heart. Jeremiah 17:9 "the heart is deceitful above all things". Proverbs 28:26 "He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool." Please don't be a fool. The entire belief system and premise of Mormonism is based on a false claim the Bible was corrupted and "plain and precious parts" were removed by early Christian translators sometime after the apostles had all died. This is a very dangerous claim to make against the word of God, especially since God promised us his word would never pass away and would be with us forever (Isaiah 40:8; Psalms 100:5; Matthew 16:18, 24:35; 1 Peter 1:23-25). An Objective Test of the Bible and Book of Mormon The Claim: In the Book of Mormon, the prophet Nephi has a vision the Bible was corrupted after the 12 apostles preached it and after the formation of the “great and abominable church” (1 Nephi 13:26-29). Most Mormons believe this to be the Catholic Church which was formed early in the 4th century. Nephi claims this church was founded by the Devil to lead souls to hell (1 Nephi 14:3). So let’s objectively examine both the Bible and the Book of Mormon to be fair and test if any have errors. Bible: The earliest Dead Sea Scrolls have been historically dated by three different dating techniques to as early as 350 BC. Included in this discovery was the Great Isaiah Scroll, which is the oldest known complete copy of the Book of Isaiah and is dated to approximately 200 BC. Study the dead sea scrolls which are over 2,000 years old and see if they have Joseph Smith's uncorrupted version. They should if Joseph Smith was correct and the bible had been corrupted over time but, no they do not. They are the same today as they were over 2,100 years ago with only minor spelling or punctuation differences. Joseph Smith was wrong. The bible had not been corrupted. The new testament has not been corrupted either. Take for example John 1:1 a very important verse than Smith changed to make Jesus a created being. A papyri known as the Bodmer Papyri which is almost 1900 years old. (note that this was written not long after the apostle John would have died and it shows joseph smith changed the book of John, not that it got corrupted later as he alleged) John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. ΕΝ ΑΡΧΗ ΗΝ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΚΑΙ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΗΝ ΠΡΟΣ ΤΟΝ ΘΕΟΝ ΚΑΙ ΘΕΟΣ ΗΝ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ I post this in love. The manuscript and archeological evidence for the bible is the greatest of anything in antiquity. I pray that you know the real Jesus, the alpha and omega of all of creation. Know real peace, love and true salvation.
@@rutht2023 I’m not sure of the reference. It’s been many years ago I learned that. I believe you can look up his genealogy on ancestry or possibly Family tree. It may have been in Wilford Woodruffs diary.
@@rutht2023I Is there any DNA evidence to support the Book of Mormon's claim that Native Americans descend from Jews? Profile photo for ChatGPT ChatGPT There is currently no DNA evidence to support the Book of Mormon's claim that Native Americans are of Jewish descent. The majority of scientists and geneticists believe that the ancestors of the Native Americans came from Asia, crossing the land bridge from Siberia to Alaska around 12,000 to 15,000 years ago.Additionally, the genetic evidence does not support the idea that the ancestors of the Native Americans had Middle Eastern origins. Studies have shown that the majority of the genetic ancestry of Native Americans comes from East Asia, with some also coming from Western Eurasia and the Arctic.It's important to note that while the Book of Mormon is considered a sacred text by members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, it is not considered a historical or scientific document by most scholars and scientists.
@@ajknitter8784 It is a lie. Like the book of Mormon. Look to the bible which has actual evidence and a true God. God bless. s there any DNA evidence to support the Book of Mormon's claim that Native Americans descend from Jews? ChatGPT There is currently no DNA evidence to support the Book of Mormon's claim that Native Americans are of Jewish descent. The majority of scientists and geneticists believe that the ancestors of the Native Americans came from Asia, crossing the land bridge from Siberia to Alaska around 12,000 to 15,000 years ago. Additionally, the genetic evidence does not support the idea that the ancestors of the Native Americans had Middle Eastern origins. Studies have shown that the majority of the genetic ancestry of Native Americans comes from East Asia, with some also coming from Western Eurasia and the Arctic. It's important to note that while the Book of Mormon is considered a sacred text by members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, it is not considered a historical or scientific document by most scholars and scientists.
Evidence for Book of Mormon in ancient America- none Evidence showing Book of Mormon is a 19th century religious fiction: No wheat, no barley, no goats, no steel found in the Americas, no metal smelting furnaces, no metal armor, no temples, no steel swords, no skeletons of these warriors, no graves, no cities (it would be impossible for a city the size of Zarahemla to leave no trace), no cattle, no chariot parts, no Nephite coins (listed in book of Alma as being used for a thousand years), no Jewish relics from supposed jews, no metal plates like Nephites supposedly had, no artifacts whatsoever, no Nephite "reformed Egyptian" writings; and no evidence the book of Mormon "prophets" ever existed. There is zero archaeological, anthropological, topological, linguistic, or DNA evidence to support the Book of Mormon. It would be impossible for highly advanced civilizations (Jaredites, Nephites) with millions of people to have vanished off the face of the earth The whole face of the land had become covered with buildings” (Mormon 1:7) “Two million Jaredites slain” (Ether 15:2) 38 cities are catalogued in the Book of Mormon, along with iron, steel, brass, metal swords, breast-plates, shields, armor, or chariots. Yet, not one item mentioned in the Book of Mormon has ever been discovered in America. The Book of Mormon speaks of sheep, swine, goats, wheat, barley, silk, and elephants-even though they weren’t brought to America until centuries later by Europeans in post-Columbian times. Again we see that Joseph Smith was thinking about things in his current day as he was fabricating the Book of Mormon. CAN WE TRUST OUR HEARTS as to book of Mormon since there is no evidence? Maroni chapter 10:4 says: "he will manifest the truth of it unto you" But: THE BIBLE WARNS YOU about trusting your own heart. Jeremiah 17:9 "the heart is deceitful above all things". Proverbs 28:26 "He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool." Please don't be a fool. The entire belief system and premise of Mormonism is based on a false claim the Bible was corrupted and "plain and precious parts" were removed by early Christian translators sometime after the apostles had all died. This is a very dangerous claim to make against the word of God, especially since God promised us his word would never pass away and would be with us forever (Isaiah 40:8; Psalms 100:5; Matthew 16:18, 24:35; 1 Peter 1:23-25). An Objective Test of the Bible and Book of Mormon The Claim: In the Book of Mormon, the prophet Nephi has a vision the Bible was corrupted after the 12 apostles preached it and after the formation of the “great and abominable church” (1 Nephi 13:26-29). Most Mormons believe this to be the Catholic Church which was formed early in the 4th century. Nephi claims this church was founded by the Devil to lead souls to hell (1 Nephi 14:3). So let’s objectively examine both the Bible and the Book of Mormon to be fair and test if any have errors. Bible: The earliest Dead Sea Scrolls have been historically dated by three different dating techniques to as early as 350 BC. Included in this discovery was the Great Isaiah Scroll, which is the oldest known complete copy of the Book of Isaiah and is dated to approximately 200 BC. Study the dead sea scrolls which are over 2,000 years old and see if they have Joseph Smith's uncorrupted version. They should if Joseph Smith was correct and the bible had been corrupted over time but, no they do not. They are the same today as they were over 2,100 years ago with only minor spelling or punctuation differences. Joseph Smith was wrong. The bible had not been corrupted. The new testament has not been corrupted either. Take for example John 1:1 a very important verse than Smith changed to make Jesus a created being. A papyri known as the Bodmer Papyri which is almost 1900 years old. (note that this was written not long after the apostle John would have died and it shows joseph smith changed the book of John, not that it got corrupted later as he alleged) John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. ΕΝ ΑΡΧΗ ΗΝ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΚΑΙ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΗΝ ΠΡΟΣ ΤΟΝ ΘΕΟΝ ΚΑΙ ΘΕΟΣ ΗΝ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ I post this in love. The manuscript and archeological evidence for the bible is the greatest of anything in antiquity. I pray that you know the real Jesus, the alpha and omega of all of creation. Know real peace, love and true salvation.
The Scribes and Pharisees sit in Moses's seat whatever HE (Moses) said do. the original is a mis translation in the New Testament, look into Nehemia Gordon's Hebrew Gospel Pearls.
I have a Jewish Father, and was also raised Jewish... and I recently have definitely come to believe and have faith the Book of Mormon is a True Testimate of Jesus Christ in America... I am not converted to Mormon, but I do also believe Joseph Smith saw Jesus... I would love to know more, I am convinced
Beautiful gifts and new rewards await you. Take a chance on truth and life. God is with you, hear His voice, in your heart and in your soul.
I met Robert Parrot, the Forester for the Smith family farm in Palmyra, New York. He was not a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, but he was a sincere believer in the reality of the First Vision of Joseph Smith in the uncleared woods of the farm in the early Spring of 1820. He told me where he believed the Father and Son had appeared in answer to young Joseph's prayer asking which church he should join. I am 73 years old and have studied the life and works of Joseph through my life, and the more I have learned, the more convinced I am that Joseph was an honest man who told about what God had taught him. The books he produced, from the Book of Mormon, to the Book of Most s, and the Book of Moses, demonstrate a deep knowledge of ancient Jewish beliefs and literature, which he could not have known through any education, because those facts were not known until 50 to 150 years after his death in 1844. He could only know those things through revelation from God.
I Nephi 1, 600 B.C., is historically and linguistically inaccurate. I Nephi 1 has a prophecy concerning the destruction of Jerusalem. If you know anything about the history of Jerusalem, then you know that King Jehoahaz was taken as a prisoner to Egypt nine years prior by Pharaoh Neco. (609 BC). You also know that the first deportation occurred five years prior in 605 BC. There would be no need to 'prophesy' about the destruction of Jerusalem. It was well under way.
Also, the language of 'Reformed Egyptian' has never existed. Egyptians speak Arabic. Hebrews living in Jerusalem in 600 B.C. spoke Hebrew. They would not be speaking a fictional language neither would they be still speaking the supposed language of their captors from hundreds of years prior.
The good news is that Christ never said that you had to wait 1800 years and believe the BOM is true to get to the 'top level' of heaven.
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Joseph Smith himself made it very clear that the Book of Mormon was meant to be taken as fiction.
Imagine finding gold plates written in 600 B.C. with the Gettysburg Address in them? Now imagine gold plates from 600 B.C with word for word quotes from people who hadn't even been born yet? Pretty amazing!
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The Book of Acts records the apostle Peter paraphrasing Moses (Deut. 18:18-19) during his sermon at Pentecost. This happened around 60 A.D.
In the Book of Mormon, around 580 B.C., Nephi claims to also quote from Moses, but instead he quotes Peter's paraphrasing of Moses verbatim, 640 years before Peter gave his sermon.
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Apostle Peter (60 A.D.)
Holy Bible For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you. And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.
- Acts 3:22-23
Book of Mormon 580 B.C.
...the words of Moses, which he spake, saying: A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you. And it shall come to pass that all those who will not hear that prophet shall be cut off from among the people.
- 1 Nephi 22:20
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Alma chapter 5 plagiarizes John the Baptist about 80 years before he was born.
John the Baptist (30 A.D.)
Holy Bible And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
- Matthew 3:10
Book of Mormon 83 B.C.
And again I say unto you, the Spirit saith: Behold, the ax is laid at the root of the tree; therefore every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit shall be hewn down and cast into the fire...
- Alma 5:52
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Mosiah chapter 16 plagiarizes the apostle Paul 200 years before he wrote his firsts epistle to the church at Corinth.
Apostle Paul (55 A.D.)
Holy Bible For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
1 Corinthians 15:53
Book of Mormon 148 B.C.
Even this mortal shall put on immortality, and this corruption shall put on incorruption...
- Mosiah 16:10
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2 Nephi plagiarizes the apostle Paul 600 years before he wrote his epistle to the church at Rome.
Apostle Paul (68 A.D.)
Holy Bible For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
- Romans 8:6
Book of Mormon 555 B. C.
...to be carnally-minded is death, and to be spiritually-minded is life eternal.
- 2 Nephi 9:39
According to the Book of Mormon, there were many high priests serving at the same time (Mosiah 11:11; Alma 13:9-10; 46:6,38; Helaman 3:25) in the New World, among those it describes as Jewish immigrants from ancient Israel who "kept the law of Moses" (e.g., 2 Nephi 25:10; Jacob 4:5; Jarom 1:5).
In contrast, it is clear from the Bible that only one individual at a time occupied the office of high priest under the Old Testament dispensation (see, for example Leviticus 21:10; Matthew 26:3; Hebrews 8:6-7).
The people described in the Book of Mormon operated multiple temples (Alma 16:13; 23:2; 26:29). This violates the dictates of the Old Testament Scriptures on two counts:
First, God commanded Israel to build only one temple to reflect that fact that there is only one true God (Deuteronomy 12:5,13-14; 16:5-6).
Second, the one legitimate temple was to be built in Jerusalem (Zion), the location designated by God (The Old Testament is filled with explicit references to God choosing Jerusalem [Zion] as the place where "His name would dwell" in the temple:
for example, 1 Kings 8:44,48; 11:13,32,36; 14:21; 2 Kings 21:7; 23:27; 1 Chronicles 28:4; 2 Chronicles 6:6; 7:12,16; Psalm 78:68-69; Isaiah 18:7.
God is the one inspiring both Paul and Mephistopheles, so of course they will say similar things. They are both inspired😊💕
I LOVED this program. I have some real connections to Jason. I read the Book of Mormon and got baptized when I was 18. I also served a mission in New Jersey. I was raised Catholic, but as a Jersey missionary, developed a great love for the Jewish people. I cried several times as I listened to Jason's story. Thanks again and God Bless both of you.
Book of Mormon: There is not a single manuscript dating prior to 1830 as evidence when the Book of Mormon was published. There is zero archaeological, anthropological, topological, linguistic, or DNA evidence to support the Book of Mormon. It would be impossible for highly advanced civilizations (Jaredites, Nephites) with millions of people to have vanished off the face of the earth without leaving a single coin, peace of armor, sword, bone, or shred of evidence behind! The Book of Mormon claims a temple was built after the manner of Solomon’s temple, which took over 180,000 workers seven years to build. If this were true, there would be evidence left behind of such a massive structure. The population growth claims in the Book of Mormon during specific periods (by 187 BC) are 30 times the population growths of the world during the same era1.
The entire belief system and premise of Mormonism is based on a claim the Bible was corrupted and "plain and precious parts" were removed by early Christian translators sometime after the apostles had all died. This is a very dangerous claim to make against the word of God, especially since God promised us his word would never pass away and would be with us forever (Isaiah 40:8; Psalms 100:5; Matthew 16:18, 24:35; 1 Peter 1:23-25).
Facts regarding the Book of Mormon:
- The King James Version (KJV) of the Bible was completed in 1611 in Europe and was written in Elizabethan form English, which is an archaic language which was not around anymore in the early 1800's, and especially not in America. How is it possible the Book of Mormon, which was supposedly written over 1,000 years earlier, was written in the same Elizabethan form English neither Joseph Smith nor the Nephites spoke or had access to?
- During the seven year translation process of the KJV, words were added which did not appear in the original text to make the text flow and for readability in English. These words were written in italics to denote they were not in the original manuscripts. How could it be possible these same italicized words, which were added in 1611, appear in the Book of Mormon as if Joseph Smith translated directly from golden plates written over 1,000 years prior to the KJV Bible? For example, please compare Isaiah 53 to Mosiah 14.
Furthermore, roughly 25% of the Book of Mormon contains almost a verbatim copy of the 1769 KJV of the Bible along with the exact same errors. The 1769 version of the KJ Bible just happens to be the exact version Joseph Smith owned. Is this just a mere coincidence? Is this really inspired from God and "the most correct book of any on earth" if the errors were not corrected by Joseph Smith?
- Why would the Nephites write down their historical record in the language of their enemies (Egyptians)?
- Impossible population growth: You have less than 100 people coming over from Israel and their population explodes while in the Book of Mormon lands (wherever that is). This all happens at the same time the many battles throughout the Book of Mormon occur, which kill tens of thousands within certain battles and around 230,000 Nephites alone in the final battle at the Hill Cumorah. This growth rate in total would be more than double the Roman Empire by comparison1. This would lead to a population of over 8,000 Romans vs. a population of over 1,800,000 for the Nephites/Lamanites. These growth rates are impossible and unheard of without modern medicines.
So let’s objectively examine both the Bible and the Book of Mormon to be fair and test if any have errors.
Book of Mormon:
“The whole face of the land had become covered with buildings” (Mormon 1:7) “Two million Jaredites slain” (Ether 15:2) 38 cities are catalogued in the Book of Mormon, along with iron, steel, brass, metal swords, breast-plates, shields, armor, or chariots. Yet, not one item mentioned in the Book of Mormon has ever been discovered in America.
The Book of Mormon speaks of sheep, swine, goats, wheat, barley, silk, and elephants-even though they weren’t brought to America until centuries later by Europeans in post-Columbian times. Again we see that Joseph Smith was thinking about things in his current day as he was fabricating the Book of Mormon.
Bible:
Today roughly 40,000 combinations of manuscripts exist of the Old and New Testaments proving them to be by far the most verifiable and trusted documents of antiquity. Many of these Old Testament manuscripts are decades and centuries before the birth of Jesus. Namely, the Dead Sea Scrolls, one of the most significant discoveries since antiquity, were discovered in 1947, over 100 years after the Book of Mormon was accusing the Bible of being corrupted. This discovery is remarkably important, especially for the Mormon, because prior to this discovery, the oldest known complete Old Testament manuscript in existence was the Masoretic Text from around 980 AD. Since 980 AD is well after the Book of Mormon claims when the corruption of the Bible occurred, it was impossible to prove the perfect preservation of the Bible.
I served in NYC. Love Jewish people.
@@DiffQ_Bro Why do you promote the Book of Mormon when the evidence is overwhelming that it is false?
The God of the Bible was kind enough to let us see his word is true and we see the remains of the first and second temple in Jerusalem. We see evidence of the Philistines, Sumerians, Jews, Babylonians, Hittites, the Egyptians, and many more. You cannot dig in Israel without finding historical evidence.
Yet evidence for the book of Mormon does not exist and we would see evidence if it was true.
A Temple like Solomon's Temple built in America does not exist. It is a 100% impossibility as we would have some remains and there were no Levites in the Americas to serve in the temple so it would have been against Jewish law for others to work in the temple as priests and the book of Mormon says Jewish laws were kept.
If you study the bible you know this.
Mormon's own the Hill Cumorah yet they do not excavate it because they know there is nothing there from previous digs. An excavation would be a grand embarrassment and would prove the religion is a lie.
How can intelligent Mormon's ignore this and not answer this question?
I was raised in a Catholic/Jewish (dad/stepmom) & New Age (mom) “religious” household. Their true religion was following the world (all of them). I was contractually obligated from my parents marriage contract to be raised Catholic. Fortunately, I always had a love of God and a reverence for spiritual things. I had a similar experience and knew Jesus was the Lord at around 15. Eventually I lived with some family in another state and they were LDS. I felt something different in their home and ask to attend seminary with my cousin. I was introduced to missionaries and read the BOM. The spirit does witness the truth to those who sincerely want to know. I did and I gained a testimony of it. Like Joseph Smith, I could not deny what I knew to be true. Grateful for my varied spiritual path and how it helped me to be open to the restored gospel. Everyone should read the Book of Mormon and meet with missionaries whether they join or not. It’s a wonderful feel good and life lesson book aside from being profoundly spiritual. Thanks for an awesome guest and interview from a new listener.
You are completely blind, lost, and deceived The bom is a 100% false manmade abomination.
Thanks for sharing your story, and best wishes on your own faith journey 💕
Amen. Thank you. I second your witness.
What a beautiful and intelligently written message. Made my day. Thank you so much!!
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Jason's experience with the Book of Mormon, and those warning him against the Church reminded me of watching the many marvelous testimonies and conversion stories of Messianic Jews on the "I Met Messiah" series here on RUclips. So many of them talk about being warned against the New Testament - that it is an anti-semitic book. Many explain that they thought it was about the Pope and the Catholics. They feared that book and felt it was blasphemous to open its pages. Then, low and behold, once they "dare" to read it themselves, they share in their stories what it was like reading it for the first time: they almost ALL say very similar things, such as, "I had NO IDEA Jesus was Jewish! I can’t believe that the New Testament was written by Jews and that it is a Jewish book!"
And then Isaiah 53 comes into focus and makes so much more sense to them as they tie it all together. Then they talk about coming to know Jesus/Yeshua as the Jewish Messiah and their personal Savior and the incredible power behind those answers to prayers once they ask God about this truth for the first time. And then they often share the suffering they endure when (in some cases) their families and friends shun/disown them or call them crazy.
I believe it is the same thing about the Book of Mormon. Time after time I hear of stories of other Christians who come to the Book of Mormon looking to debunk it to their crazy friend or family member who has gotten mixed up with members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, only to discover a deeper understanding of their Savior, Jesus Christ.
Listening to the incredibly moving conversion stories of the "I Met Messiah" series rings a bell with the way people are converted to the Book of Mormon as a true book of scripture. They were warned against it, dared to read it and pray about it, and were converted in much the same way as these Messianic Jews were. The descriptions of the powerful answer to prayer in both instances are so very similar. Both the New Testament AND the Book of Mormon have power in their pages because both books testify of the divinity of Jesus Christ as THE ONLY WAY back to God and our heavenly home.
Consider the experience of Lynn Ridenhour, a Southern Baptist preacher from Missouri.
Initially skeptical, he agrees to accept a copy of the Book of Mormon from a new neighbor out of politeness, but not believing the person giving it to him was a Christian. This is his experience:
"... he handed me a Book of Mormon. So, before I know what I’m saying, I said, 'But sir, THAT'S a Book of Mormon!' and he said 'yes,' and then I said, 'but I thought this was a Christian community.' ...I mean, I have a lot of bias. I grew up very with a very conservative Baptist background. And he said, 'Oh, we're a Christian community, but we also believe in that book.' Well, the bottom line was simply, when he left, I took it out of courtesy.
-- I did not get out of the first page-totally, as we say here in Missouri, sideswiped by God. When I read 'I Nephi having been born of goodly parents,' I knew. I really did. I knew that I was reading God’s word. And I kept looking for the weird stuff and I would read through Nephi, and then 2nd Nephi, and I did. You know, we were taught some... I call them 'caricature' beliefs regarding the Book of Mormon, and I did not find one thing that contradicted the Bible. In fact, sometimes I tell my Baptist buddies that the Book of Mormon is more Baptist than the Baptist hymnal -and it is in places. It really is. It's jammed packed full of what I call 'cardinal themes' of Protestantism. I’ve been invited to speak in Baptist churches and Pentecostal churches, and the way I present the Book of Mormon is essentially, that is Christ-centered. So whether or not you’re a Baptist or a Methodist or a Pentecostal or whatever, I approach it through the lens that the same Jesus that I met as an 11-year-old lad in the Baptist Church I discovered in this book. That’s my approach. It's the centrality of the Lord Jesus Christ. I tell my Baptist friends, I feel like I've been born again, again."
Evidence for Book of Mormon in ancient America- none
Evidence showing Book of Mormon is a 19th century religious fiction:
No wheat, no barley, no goats, no steel found in the Americas, no metal smelting furnaces, no metal armor, no temples, no steel swords, no skeletons of these warriors, no graves, no cities (it would be impossible for a city the size of Zarahemla to leave no trace), no cattle, no chariot parts, no Nephite coins (listed in book of Alma as being used for a thousand years), no Jewish relics from supposed jews, no metal plates like Nephites supposedly had, no artifacts whatsoever, no Nephite "reformed Egyptian" writings; and no evidence the book of Mormon "prophets" ever existed. There is zero archaeological, anthropological, topological, linguistic, or DNA evidence to support the Book of Mormon. It would be impossible for highly advanced civilizations (Jaredites, Nephites) with millions of people to have vanished off the face of the earth
The whole face of the land had become covered with buildings” (Mormon 1:7) “Two million Jaredites slain” (Ether 15:2) 38 cities are catalogued in the Book of Mormon, along with iron, steel, brass, metal swords, breast-plates, shields, armor, or chariots. Yet, not one item mentioned in the Book of Mormon has ever been discovered in America.
The Book of Mormon speaks of sheep, swine, goats, wheat, barley, silk, and elephants-even though they weren’t brought to America until centuries later by Europeans in post-Columbian times. Again we see that Joseph Smith was thinking about things in his current day as he was fabricating the Book of Mormon.
CAN WE TRUST OUR HEARTS as to book of Mormon since there is no evidence?
Maroni chapter 10:4 says: "he will manifest the truth of it unto you" But:
THE BIBLE WARNS YOU about trusting your own heart. Jeremiah 17:9 "the heart is deceitful above all things". Proverbs 28:26 "He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool." Please don't be a fool.
The entire belief system and premise of Mormonism is based on a false claim the Bible was corrupted and "plain and precious parts" were removed by early Christian translators sometime after the apostles had all died. This is a very dangerous claim to make against the word of God, especially since God promised us his word would never pass away and would be with us forever (Isaiah 40:8; Psalms 100:5; Matthew 16:18, 24:35; 1 Peter 1:23-25).
An Objective Test of the Bible and Book of Mormon
The Claim: In the Book of Mormon, the prophet Nephi has a vision the Bible was corrupted after the 12 apostles preached it and after the formation of the “great and abominable church” (1 Nephi 13:26-29). Most Mormons believe this to be the Catholic Church which was formed early in the 4th century. Nephi claims this church was founded by the Devil to lead souls to hell (1 Nephi 14:3). So let’s objectively examine both the Bible and the Book of Mormon to be fair and test if any have errors.
Bible:
The earliest Dead Sea Scrolls have been historically dated by three different dating techniques to as early as 350 BC. Included in this discovery was the Great Isaiah Scroll, which is the oldest known complete copy of the Book of Isaiah and is dated to approximately 200 BC.
Study the dead sea scrolls which are over 2,000 years old and see if they have Joseph Smith's uncorrupted version. They should if Joseph Smith was correct and the bible had been corrupted over time but, no they do not. They are the same today as they were over 2,100 years ago with only minor spelling or punctuation differences. Joseph Smith was wrong. The bible had not been corrupted.
The new testament has not been corrupted either. Take for example John 1:1 a very important verse than Smith changed to make Jesus a created being. A papyri known as the Bodmer Papyri which is almost 1900 years old. (note that this was written not long after the apostle John would have died and it shows joseph smith changed the book of John, not that it got corrupted later as he alleged)
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. ΕΝ ΑΡΧΗ ΗΝ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΚΑΙ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΗΝ ΠΡΟΣ ΤΟΝ ΘΕΟΝ ΚΑΙ ΘΕΟΣ ΗΝ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ
I post this in love. The manuscript and archeological evidence for the bible is the greatest of anything in antiquity. I pray that you know the real Jesus, the alpha and omega of all of creation. Know real peace, love and true salvation.
Fantastic comment with amazing stories! Thankyou for sharing all of it! Once serious people just give the Book of Mormon a chance, they can be pleasantly surprised.
@@sherigraham3873 I seriously looked at the evidence and was shocked. please turn from the false past humanoid endless Gods of Mormonism to the true God of the bible.
Mormons teach that the angel Moroni came down from heaven and gave Joseph Smith the Book of Mormon. Let's hear what God Himself says about this claim in:
GALATIANS 1:6-9 "I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who CALLED you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ.
But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed.
As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed..."
There you are Mormons, God Himself telling you that He did not send any angel from heaven to Joseph Smith.
Archeology has found ZERO confirmation of the book of Mormon. The Bible, on the other hand has clear tangible archeological proof of every Bible city, river, nation, king, ruler, coin, country (and hundreds of confirmed Bible stories) have been confirmed from professional archeological controlled digs. It is well known in professional archeological circles that the Book of Mormon has failed to find any connection with the extinct nations of South America (Nasca, Ica etc) and the Book of Mormon. All of the "star archeological witnesses" of the Book of Mormon are either flat out rejected as forgeries, fakes, frauds and fabrications (the 4 F's of archeology) or highly suspect since NONE of them came from controlled professional archeological excavations and ALL of them are unprovenanced.
@@brettpinion4233 you are sadly uninformed. According to the nat. Geographic, only 2% of Mayan, Aztec and other indigenous peoples cities have been excavated because of jungle density and logistics. Also, the challenges that the apostle Paul had in his day of keeping the church together and as 'one' were extremely difficult if not impossible. There are 45,000 different evangelical, protestant churches in the US today each having a different take on the Bible. It's a quagmire just like in Joseph Smiths day. No different. All Joseph Smith wanted to know was, which church to join among the many church camp meetings in Palmyra in his day. And he prayed in the woods. And the rest is history.
I wish you the best and hope you look beyond the surface to find the truth as to his 2% claim. God of the Bible bless you.
When people dig even for worms in the Holy Land, they make discoveries. In contrast to the Book of Mormon, cities, places, coins, clothing, swords, etc. mentioned in the Bible have been found by archaeologists, but not one single place mentioned in the Book of Mormon has ever been identified.
There are still people in the LDS Church who believe that archaeology has proved, at least to a degree, the Book of Mormon. Some missionaries are still using slide presentations of ruins from Mexico and South America, implying that they prove the Book of Mormon, but they are from an entirely different time period and are ruins of idol worshipers who offered human sacrifices.
In the mid 1970’s, President Spencer W. Kimball made a statement that should have stopped these “faith promoting rumors.” The Church News published the statement, which said that people should stop looking for archaeological evidences for the Book of Mormon, for there is none. Perhaps he finally realized that it was too embarrassing to insist on Book of Mormon archaeology since professors in the Church’s own University had started to deny publicly that there was any truth to it.
LDS Professor Dee Green, in Dialogue, summer of 1969, pp. 74-78, wrote:
“The first myth we need to eliminate is that Book of Mormon archaeology exists. Titles of books full of archaeological half-truths, dilettante on peripheries of American archaeology calling themselves Book of Mormon archaeologists regardless of their education, and a Department of Archaeology at BYU devoted to the production of Book of Mormon archaeologists do not insure that Book of Mormon archaeology really exists… no Book of Mormon location is known… Biblical archaeology can be studied, because we know where Jerusalem and Jericho were and are, but we do not know where Zarahemla and Bountiful (nor any location for that matter) were or are….”
Thomas S. Ferguson was a firm believer and he was sure that archaeology would prove the Book of Mormon. He was an attorney and believed that he knew how to weigh the evidence, once it was found, and a lot of “evidence” was found; but unfortunately for the LDS Church, the evidence did not have any connection to the Book of Mormon. Ferguson spent hundreds of thousands of dollars and 25 years of his life, as a head of “The New World Archaeological Foundation,” funded by the Church. But in spite of all the efforts, by 1970, he had come to the conclusion that all had been in vain, that Joseph Smith was not a prophet, and that Mormonism was not true.
Mormon's own the Hill Cumorah yet they do not excavate it because they know there is nothing there from previous digs. An excavation would be a grand embarrassment and would prove the religion is a lie. It did not happen. Look at Mormon Chapter 8 the evidence for it does not exist and evidence would exist if it happened.
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A beautiful Spirit was felt whilst listening to this wonderful conversion story. Hearing, Jason talking about the inner voice telling him NOT to burn the book of Mormon reminded me of the time 40 plus years ago when I received the BOM. I remember thinking that the BOM was just going to be a fraud, so I threw it in the bin, but immediately felt an overwhelming sadness for doing that !! Again, it took a few more years before The BOM was again offered to me but this time, I could not and would not deny the Spirit to LISTEN to and PRAY for the TRUTH of The Book of Mormon.
Thanks once again for this very uplifting discussion from you both.
The fact is, the bom is a 100% false manmade fraud. It is a manmade abomination, as are all those deceived by it and the con artist joseph smith. Repent!
This interview with Jason Olson was so enlightening and informative. Brother Jason's fascinating journey to become a Latter-day Saint, still embracing and cherishing his Jewish heritage, was so refreshing and eye opening to me. The idea of a Lamb Messiah and a Lion Messiah, his love of the Abinadi story in the Book of Mormon as basically a Jewish prophet, so much more... I enjoy having my own perspectives expanded. I'm know I'm going to enjoy reading The Burning Book.
I also appreciate how respectful and understanding and insightful you always are Steven. As a Latter-day Saint, you are still a bit of a mystery to me, but I'd have to say you are one of my favorite Evangelicals. 🙂
Love the quote “big heaven small hell”. Just gives me comfort and peace for all our brothers and sisters we love.
I just stumbled on this. I'm so glad I did. My faith is wavering a bit. Haven't been going to church. I really needed to hear everything this had to offer.
Thank you..... I feel so much better for watching this.
You might love David Alexander's youtube chanel. He is a new chuch member who spent 47 years as an evangelical. He was raised catholic. He tells of his journey and how evangelicalism saved his life, but he knew things were missing. He tells why it took him so long to find the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
@@rutht2023 Thanks for the suggestion of David! I went there and loved his last recent one about general conference. I subscribed to his channel.
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I'll recommend David Alexander's channel, too. He understands the Bible exquisitely well and knows that the foundation of apostles and prophets is critical: apostles called by Jesus and He asks us to do what they say, so we follow them, His servants -> they follow Jesus -> Jesus follows His Father = the way and path of our return home.
Just said a prayer for you, dear sister. Also, maybe search out someone at church who needs a friend and be that person's friend. Have as a reason to go to church to help and strengthen others and it will surprise you how much it also strengthens you. Really want to help someone else! Jesus taught that we find ourselves/our lives when we lose ourselves/our lives.
The Book of Mormon-Another Testament of Jesus Christ certainly is a witness of Him. It didn't come to the world in a vacuum but through Joseph Smith and the restored church.
You are beautiful and capable to serve God and qualify for all the best blessings! One step at a time!
Cheers!
Fascinating! I was glued to my seat. I think this might be my favorite MBR episode so far. Thank you Jason and Steven!
Mine too!!!!
I seriously looked at the evidence and was shocked. please turn from the false past humanoid endless Gods of Mormonism to the true God of the bible.
Mormons teach that the angel Moroni came down from heaven and gave Joseph Smith the Book of Mormon. Let's hear what God Himself says about this claim in:
GALATIANS 1:6-9 "I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who CALLED you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ.
But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed.
As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed..."
There you are Mormons, God Himself telling you that He did not send any angel from heaven to Joseph Smith.
Archeology has found ZERO confirmation of the book of Mormon. The Bible, on the other hand has clear tangible archeological proof of every Bible city, river, nation, king, ruler, coin, country (and hundreds of confirmed Bible stories) have been confirmed from professional archeological controlled digs. It is well known in professional archeological circles that the Book of Mormon has failed to find any connection with the extinct nations of South America (Nasca, Ica etc) and the Book of Mormon. All of the "star archeological witnesses" of the Book of Mormon are either flat out rejected as forgeries, fakes, frauds and fabrications (the 4 F's of archeology) or highly suspect since NONE of them came from controlled professional archeological excavations and ALL of them are unprovenanced.
Please please please PLEASE do a second or even THIRD interview with him to continue this story!!! Seriously my favorite video you have ever put out! I REALLY enjoyed this one!!!
Evidence for Book of Mormon in ancient America- none
Evidence showing Book of Mormon is a 19th century religious fiction:
No wheat, no barley, no goats, no steel found in the Americas, no metal smelting furnaces, no metal armor, no temples, no steel swords, no skeletons of these warriors, no graves, no cities (it would be impossible for a city the size of Zarahemla to leave no trace), no cattle, no chariot parts, no Nephite coins (listed in book of Alma as being used for a thousand years), no Jewish relics from supposed jews, no metal plates like Nephites supposedly had, no artifacts whatsoever, no Nephite "reformed Egyptian" writings; and no evidence the book of Mormon "prophets" ever existed. There is zero archaeological, anthropological, topological, linguistic, or DNA evidence to support the Book of Mormon. It would be impossible for highly advanced civilizations (Jaredites, Nephites) with millions of people to have vanished off the face of the earth
The whole face of the land had become covered with buildings” (Mormon 1:7) “Two million Jaredites slain” (Ether 15:2) 38 cities are catalogued in the Book of Mormon, along with iron, steel, brass, metal swords, breast-plates, shields, armor, or chariots. Yet, not one item mentioned in the Book of Mormon has ever been discovered in America.
The Book of Mormon speaks of sheep, swine, goats, wheat, barley, silk, and elephants-even though they weren’t brought to America until centuries later by Europeans in post-Columbian times. Again we see that Joseph Smith was thinking about things in his current day as he was fabricating the Book of Mormon.
CAN WE TRUST OUR HEARTS as to book of Mormon since there is no evidence?
Maroni chapter 10:4 says: "he will manifest the truth of it unto you" But:
THE BIBLE WARNS YOU about trusting your own heart. Jeremiah 17:9 "the heart is deceitful above all things". Proverbs 28:26 "He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool." Please don't be a fool.
The entire belief system and premise of Mormonism is based on a false claim the Bible was corrupted and "plain and precious parts" were removed by early Christian translators sometime after the apostles had all died. This is a very dangerous claim to make against the word of God, especially since God promised us his word would never pass away and would be with us forever (Isaiah 40:8; Psalms 100:5; Matthew 16:18, 24:35; 1 Peter 1:23-25).
An Objective Test of the Bible and Book of Mormon
The Claim: In the Book of Mormon, the prophet Nephi has a vision the Bible was corrupted after the 12 apostles preached it and after the formation of the “great and abominable church” (1 Nephi 13:26-29). Most Mormons believe this to be the Catholic Church which was formed early in the 4th century. Nephi claims this church was founded by the Devil to lead souls to hell (1 Nephi 14:3). So let’s objectively examine both the Bible and the Book of Mormon to be fair and test if any have errors.
Bible:
The earliest Dead Sea Scrolls have been historically dated by three different dating techniques to as early as 350 BC. Included in this discovery was the Great Isaiah Scroll, which is the oldest known complete copy of the Book of Isaiah and is dated to approximately 200 BC.
Study the dead sea scrolls which are over 2,000 years old and see if they have Joseph Smith's uncorrupted version. They should if Joseph Smith was correct and the bible had been corrupted over time but, no they do not. They are the same today as they were over 2,100 years ago with only minor spelling or punctuation differences. Joseph Smith was wrong. The bible had not been corrupted.
The new testament has not been corrupted either. Take for example John 1:1 a very important verse than Smith changed to make Jesus a created being. A papyri known as the Bodmer Papyri which is almost 1900 years old. (note that this was written not long after the apostle John would have died and it shows joseph smith changed the book of John, not that it got corrupted later as he alleged)
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. ΕΝ ΑΡΧΗ ΗΝ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΚΑΙ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΗΝ ΠΡΟΣ ΤΟΝ ΘΕΟΝ ΚΑΙ ΘΕΟΣ ΗΝ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ
I post this in love. The manuscript and archeological evidence for the bible is the greatest of anything in antiquity. I pray that you know the real Jesus, the alpha and omega of all of creation. Know real peace, love and true salvation.
This was an excellent presentation on a Jewish boy that was searching and praying, and studying to find the truth. It was quite inspiring story. It helps us to know Judaism and the variety of different practicing Jews. To hear you share your journey and your study in various aspects of your search. You came to know that Jesus is the Christ. Wonderful message!
Religious pluralism is such an American principle. In a world where we highlight the biggest differences, we have more in common than we think.
Evidence for Book of Mormon in ancient America- none
Evidence showing Book of Mormon is a 19th century religious fiction:
No wheat, no barley, no goats, no steel found in the Americas, no metal smelting furnaces, no metal armor, no temples, no steel swords, no skeletons of these warriors, no graves, no cities (it would be impossible for a city the size of Zarahemla to leave no trace), no cattle, no chariot parts, no Nephite coins (listed in book of Alma as being used for a thousand years), no Jewish relics from supposed jews, no metal plates like Nephites supposedly had, no artifacts whatsoever, no Nephite "reformed Egyptian" writings; and no evidence the book of Mormon "prophets" ever existed. There is zero archaeological, anthropological, topological, linguistic, or DNA evidence to support the Book of Mormon. It would be impossible for highly advanced civilizations (Jaredites, Nephites) with millions of people to have vanished off the face of the earth
The whole face of the land had become covered with buildings” (Mormon 1:7) “Two million Jaredites slain” (Ether 15:2) 38 cities are catalogued in the Book of Mormon, along with iron, steel, brass, metal swords, breast-plates, shields, armor, or chariots. Yet, not one item mentioned in the Book of Mormon has ever been discovered in America.
The Book of Mormon speaks of sheep, swine, goats, wheat, barley, silk, and elephants-even though they weren’t brought to America until centuries later by Europeans in post-Columbian times. Again we see that Joseph Smith was thinking about things in his current day as he was fabricating the Book of Mormon.
CAN WE TRUST OUR HEARTS as to book of Mormon since there is no evidence?
Maroni chapter 10:4 says: "he will manifest the truth of it unto you" But:
THE BIBLE WARNS YOU about trusting your own heart. Jeremiah 17:9 "the heart is deceitful above all things". Proverbs 28:26 "He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool." Please don't be a fool.
The entire belief system and premise of Mormonism is based on a false claim the Bible was corrupted and "plain and precious parts" were removed by early Christian translators sometime after the apostles had all died. This is a very dangerous claim to make against the word of God, especially since God promised us his word would never pass away and would be with us forever (Isaiah 40:8; Psalms 100:5; Matthew 16:18, 24:35; 1 Peter 1:23-25).
An Objective Test of the Bible and Book of Mormon
The Claim: In the Book of Mormon, the prophet Nephi has a vision the Bible was corrupted after the 12 apostles preached it and after the formation of the “great and abominable church” (1 Nephi 13:26-29). Most Mormons believe this to be the Catholic Church which was formed early in the 4th century. Nephi claims this church was founded by the Devil to lead souls to hell (1 Nephi 14:3). So let’s objectively examine both the Bible and the Book of Mormon to be fair and test if any have errors.
Bible:
The earliest Dead Sea Scrolls have been historically dated by three different dating techniques to as early as 350 BC. Included in this discovery was the Great Isaiah Scroll, which is the oldest known complete copy of the Book of Isaiah and is dated to approximately 200 BC.
Study the dead sea scrolls which are over 2,000 years old and see if they have Joseph Smith's uncorrupted version. They should if Joseph Smith was correct and the bible had been corrupted over time but, no they do not. They are the same today as they were over 2,100 years ago with only minor spelling or punctuation differences. Joseph Smith was wrong. The bible had not been corrupted.
The new testament has not been corrupted either. Take for example John 1:1 a very important verse than Smith changed to make Jesus a created being. A papyri known as the Bodmer Papyri which is almost 1900 years old. (note that this was written not long after the apostle John would have died and it shows joseph smith changed the book of John, not that it got corrupted later as he alleged)
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. ΕΝ ΑΡΧΗ ΗΝ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΚΑΙ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΗΝ ΠΡΟΣ ΤΟΝ ΘΕΟΝ ΚΑΙ ΘΕΟΣ ΗΝ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ
I post this in love. The manuscript and archeological evidence for the bible is the greatest of anything in antiquity. I pray that you know the real Jesus, the alpha and omega of all of creation. Know real peace, love and true salvation.
Even so , there is only ONE path to TRUTH .
Proverbs 3:5-6 says, “Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make straight your paths.” Allowing God to be your guide begins with a commitment to trust.
The Bible tells us that it is the authoritative, infallible, inerrant, sufficient revelation of God.
“EVERY word of God proves TRUE; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him. Do NOT add to his words, lest he rebuke you and you be found a liar” (Proverbs 30:5-6)
Why? Because Jesus warned us that “false Christs and false prophets” will come and will attempt to deceive. (Matthew 24:23-27; see also 2 Peter 3:3 and Jude 17-18).
The best way to guard yourself against falsehood and false teachers is to know the truth.
2 Timothy 2:15 KJV "Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of TRUTH."
D&C Section 9:8-9 - These sections tell us that if something is true it will make our bosom burn and we will feel that it is right. This is different to how the bible informs us how to tell if something is true.
Acts 17:11 "Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and EXAMINED THE SCRIPTURES EVERY DAY to see if what Paul said was true. 12 As a result, many of them believed,"
1 Thessalonians 5:
19 Do not quench the Spirit.
20 Do not treat prophecies with contempt
21 but TEST THEM ALL; hold on to what is good,
A testimony is the keystone to LDS beliefs. A testimony is something Mormons are taught from a very young age to publicly bear even if a personal testimony has not been developed.
A proper Mormon testimony includes five points which have no variation ward to ward, stake to stake, state to state, or country to country. I recall a church manual to teach children what a testimony is and its five points.
This highlights a Mormon's testimony is not truly from the heart, but only what they have been trained since birth to declare. The five points are:
I know this [LDS] church is the only true church
I know Joseph Smith is a prophet of God
I know [insert current prophet here] is our current prophet who speaks to God
I know we have a Heavenly Father who loves us
I know Jesus Christ is the Savior
The church likes to tie this “feeling” you get from reading and praying about the Book of Mormon, which helps you gain a testimony (feeling) of its truthfulness.
When you have gained a testimony of the truthfulness, then this is a conformation all things in Mormonism must be true because if the Book of Mormon is true, then Joseph Smith must be a prophet and the church must be the only true church.
The church wants you to base your entire faith on a “feeling” because if the feeling is good, then everything else is true about the church, regardless of what the Bible, archaeology, anthropology, DNA, linguistics, and all other evidences reveal in opposition regarding Mormonism.
Now I am not saying one must not have faith, but there is a difference between a faith in the Bible and Christ which is backed with all sorts of ancient manuscripts, fulfilled prophecies, archaeology, anthropology, etc. versus faith in something which has zero evidence to support its claims.
The subconscious phobia indoctrination cultivated by the church instills a belief system rooted in fear, guilt, and shame. You are taught by the church that your testimony is most precious and needs to be strengthened and protected at all costs.
This is how feelings can replace facts as any evidence or fact presented will be ignored, denied or rationalized away to protect your belief.
God bless your search for TRUTH in the real Jesus.
That was mind blowing and very powerful. He has such a great spirit. I could listen to him for hours. Truly a man of God. Great episode!
I have the book and I'm almost done reading it. I admire Jason's love for God.
What is Jason’s view of the gathering of Israel?
His humility
I'm loving this interview and Jason's story -- and your questions and comments, Steve. I have to stop and make a couple of comments before I watch to the end...
In May 2000, I was blessed to be able to take a trip to Israel. (doubly blessed since I was PAID to go as a guide -- well, as a glorified head-counter on the tour bus -- while working for a Salt Lake travel agency at the time. Some friends joined me on that trip and it was glorious!) A few years later, I went with my family to Nauvoo. As I visited the Church sites, I anticipated being able to feel the Spirit as I toured Liberty Jail, Carthage, etc. There is a special Spirit to Nauvoo for sure, but it wasn't quite hitting me... until -- we visited Adam-Ondi-Ahman. THAT's where I really felt that familiar Spirit of an ancient, sacred, holy place -- and recognized it as the same feeling I had when I visited Israel. I couldn't have made that connection unless I had already been in Israel and Jerusalem, and it really resonated with me.
Evidence for Book of Mormon in ancient America- none
Evidence showing Book of Mormon is a 19th century religious fiction:
No wheat, no barley, no goats, no steel found in the Americas, no metal smelting furnaces, no metal armor, no temples, no steel swords, no skeletons of these warriors, no graves, no cities (it would be impossible for a city the size of Zarahemla to leave no trace), no cattle, no chariot parts, no Nephite coins (listed in book of Alma as being used for a thousand years), no Jewish relics from supposed jews, no metal plates like Nephites supposedly had, no artifacts whatsoever, no Nephite "reformed Egyptian" writings; and no evidence the book of Mormon "prophets" ever existed. There is zero archaeological, anthropological, topological, linguistic, or DNA evidence to support the Book of Mormon. It would be impossible for highly advanced civilizations (Jaredites, Nephites) with millions of people to have vanished off the face of the earth
The whole face of the land had become covered with buildings” (Mormon 1:7) “Two million Jaredites slain” (Ether 15:2) 38 cities are catalogued in the Book of Mormon, along with iron, steel, brass, metal swords, breast-plates, shields, armor, or chariots. Yet, not one item mentioned in the Book of Mormon has ever been discovered in America.
The Book of Mormon speaks of sheep, swine, goats, wheat, barley, silk, and elephants-even though they weren’t brought to America until centuries later by Europeans in post-Columbian times. Again we see that Joseph Smith was thinking about things in his current day as he was fabricating the Book of Mormon.
CAN WE TRUST OUR HEARTS as to book of Mormon since there is no evidence?
Maroni chapter 10:4 says: "he will manifest the truth of it unto you" But:
THE BIBLE WARNS YOU about trusting your own heart. Jeremiah 17:9 "the heart is deceitful above all things". Proverbs 28:26 "He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool." Please don't be a fool.
The entire belief system and premise of Mormonism is based on a false claim the Bible was corrupted and "plain and precious parts" were removed by early Christian translators sometime after the apostles had all died. This is a very dangerous claim to make against the word of God, especially since God promised us his word would never pass away and would be with us forever (Isaiah 40:8; Psalms 100:5; Matthew 16:18, 24:35; 1 Peter 1:23-25).
An Objective Test of the Bible and Book of Mormon
The Claim: In the Book of Mormon, the prophet Nephi has a vision the Bible was corrupted after the 12 apostles preached it and after the formation of the “great and abominable church” (1 Nephi 13:26-29). Most Mormons believe this to be the Catholic Church which was formed early in the 4th century. Nephi claims this church was founded by the Devil to lead souls to hell (1 Nephi 14:3). So let’s objectively examine both the Bible and the Book of Mormon to be fair and test if any have errors.
Bible:
The earliest Dead Sea Scrolls have been historically dated by three different dating techniques to as early as 350 BC. Included in this discovery was the Great Isaiah Scroll, which is the oldest known complete copy of the Book of Isaiah and is dated to approximately 200 BC.
Study the dead sea scrolls which are over 2,000 years old and see if they have Joseph Smith's uncorrupted version. They should if Joseph Smith was correct and the bible had been corrupted over time but, no they do not. They are the same today as they were over 2,100 years ago with only minor spelling or punctuation differences. Joseph Smith was wrong. The bible had not been corrupted.
The new testament has not been corrupted either. Take for example John 1:1 a very important verse than Smith changed to make Jesus a created being. A papyri known as the Bodmer Papyri which is almost 1900 years old. (note that this was written not long after the apostle John would have died and it shows joseph smith changed the book of John, not that it got corrupted later as he alleged)
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. ΕΝ ΑΡΧΗ ΗΝ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΚΑΙ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΗΝ ΠΡΟΣ ΤΟΝ ΘΕΟΝ ΚΑΙ ΘΕΟΣ ΗΝ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ
I post this in love. The manuscript and archeological evidence for the bible is the greatest of anything in antiquity. I pray that you know the real Jesus, the alpha and omega of all of creation. Know real peace, love and true salvation.
Aren't you Jewish too? Your name kinda sounds like it.
I will follow this channel based on this interview. Wow! The interview was amazing and the guest was treated with the utmost respect. His story is beautiful. Thank you❤
Thanks. I have hundreds of interviews for you to check out!
Wonderful, wonderful job guys. Thank you so very much for sharing, Jason. Excellent job Steven. You two get it. It's about the heart. Helping people recognize the light that is in them and the Light that is God and connecting the two so they can then shine. Jason, this might be a complete shock to Benny Friedman, but many of my favorite gospel songs are Jewish songs by singers who probably have no idea that some Christian guy wakes up every morning and listens to their music to help me focus on God. We can all strengthen each other while ignoring the accuser by refusing to contend about our differences.
I feel the spirit and testament of the good fruits of Christ’s gospel with Jason. The Book of Mormon is such a blessing to everyone!
Wow!! An LDS Naval Chaplain. That means we went to the same October Chaplain training seminars in SLC, in the COB, 24th floor, and broke bread together on the 26th floor and probably have common friends. We both served under the same fearless leaders, Frank and Rick. Love those guys. My respect. I retired on my 70th birthday. We've probably met. I was wondering how you knew so much and how you were able to speak so back and forth on religious topics, not your religion. That's why. You're a US Naval Chaplain. Lt. Commander. No small fry. A really great convo. I salute.
Thanks so much for doing this interview, Steven. It's one of my favorites now :)
Enjoyed the conversation immensely! Would love to see more interviews like this again. BTW, I went and ordered his book! Looking forward to reading it!
This was such a great discussion! Thank you both!
Oh my goodness, thank you for this conversation.
I am a convert to the church and we are also stationed at JBPHH!
We will have to look you up Jason !
Beautiful testimony and thanks for your sincerity.
Wow what a wonderful story and testimony, I needed to hear this when my faith in the church is weakening, thank you for posting this clip
This is very interesting!! Thx to you and to him. I'm 72. I've been lds my whole life. Totally loved it, talked it up, served as 1st counselor in two different wards, member of the high council, two different stakes, ward mission leader twice, two different wards, and I'm the first law enforcement chaplain for the Church. Loved everything. Then you find out. I'll leave it there. But I too feel the BOM has truth in it, I just don't how much or from where it came but I still love it and believe in it. I could never disrespect it, too many Jesus stories in it. I'm hoping it can find a home. A place of origin. An actual people. Anyway, loved your story. Very inspiring. Thank you.
Yes, very interesting!
It is true it was written for our day. Love it
I believe that too.
@@samueljeppsen9785 God called all his spirit children to the grand council,to present His plan for our progress, we were all there and so was Jesus and Lucifer . He was one of our spirit brothers that sought Gods glory and to take away our agency. He was rejected and very ticked off and has fought against our Saviour ever since. Plus all he can do to take away as many of us he can. We all need to hold tight to the iron rod. Carol
What a splendid testimony! Thank you for sharing your experience.
This is so cool. Thank you both of you. What a conversion 🙏❤️
Beautiful story and testimony of Jesus Christ.
Thank you Jason you are a very kind and sweet men thank you for sharing your stories 👏👏😊
So interesting -- yes I bought the book! Thank you for having this guest. You have a great interview style and Jason has a captivating story.
Really loved that conversation about the universality of heaven taught by latter day revelations.
Our missionary elders told me once about an encounter they had where a Christian told them “If I’m right and you’re wrong, I go to heaven and you’ll go to hell. If you’re right and I’m wrong, I still get a degree of glory” - interesting approach, I thought. I said to the Elders I know in whom I believe - the Jesus Christ who is mighty to save will beat that “bouncer” version of Jesus Christ any day!!!
Whosoever will may come!
I do want to qualify that hell is still a real experience for those who rejected Christ before the final judgment- those folks will be paying for their own sins, or at least a measure thereof (as a result of rejecting Christ’s atonement), before being ultimately redeemed when they finally receive him as their Savior.
I want to buy the book, where can we get it. Excellent commentary, both very respectful of each other. Thank you.
There is a link in the description to purchase the book
What is it?
My father was also a Navy Chaplain and member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, in the 80s and 90s. I'd love to hear more of Jason's experience in that realm. Im sure he was respected for his education and knowledge.
This was an AWESOME VIDEO!!! Thank you both for sharing Jason's amazing conversation story! I want to read his book! Jason did you realize you were the same age as Joseph Smith, when he went to pray to God about which church to join? Age 14 it's such a tender age. I am amazed that you read the Book of Mormon all night long! You really did gain a "burning in your bosom" for the Book you were about to burn! That beautiful, wonderful Book of Mormon that testifies that Jesus Christ truly is the Savior of the whole world! He is The Lion and the Lamb just as you pointed out. I have never ever thought of it that way. I'm amazed about your fourteen-year-old friend that knew how to go through those scriptures in the Book of Mormon and mark them for you so that you could see how Jesus Christ was both The Lion and the Lamb. What are smart young man he was and totally led by the Spirit to know what to mark in the Book for you. Your perspective of the Book of Mormon just blew me away! Thank you so much for your life experiences and your testimony of the truth, that Jesus is the real, true Messiah of the whole Earth!
I loved how you did not put Jesus in a box and say that he could have the power to go teach other nations throughout the world. I absolutely believe that He not only went to the Nephites and Lamanites in Ancient America but that He went all over the world and taught his gospel to other sheep of His fold all around the world. There is a book called "He walked the Americas". It's about this Great God that went to the islands of the sea and all over the Earth to teach his ways of Love, Kindness, Healing and Service. It's on Amazon. The Author L.Taylor Hansen who is not a Member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, wrote this book back in the 1960s. He went and researched the oral histories and stories of many different indigenous Indian tribes all over the Americas, Australia, New Zealand and the Polynesian Islands. Every single one of the tribes have stories of a great God that came to teach His ways of Love. This should be part of your book review!
I loved this so much the other day i ordered it and today read half of it. Wonderfully profound truth here.
This was excellent - loved it!! ❤
This was a wonderful interview! Can’t wait to read the book!
Loved this interview, very interesting! Thank you!
My favorite MBR episode!!!
I always like learning and understanding Jewish thoughts. The Lion Messiah in 3rd Nephi was a new peeling of the onion. Very interesting.
One part of the bible that I love is how history shows it true and I try and read up on all knew discoveries. I was elated to study the dead sea scrolls found in Qumran which showed beyond any doubt that the old testament had not been corrupted as 1 Nephi chapter 13 said: "the loss of many plain and precious parts of the bible" had occurred.
This is why Nephi said there was the need for "the restoration of the gospel, the coming forth of latter-day scripture". 1 Nephi 13: 26 says "after .. the twelve apostles of the Lamb, ... the formation of that great and abominable church, ... for behold, they have taken away from the gospel of the lamb many parts which are plain and most precious". The notes at the bottom say Nephi made this prophesy between 600 and 592 B.C. Then 1 Nephi 13:30 says: "because of these things which are taken away out of the gospel ... Satan hath great power over them". Then, 1 Nephi 14:3 says because of this "the devil... lead away the souls of men down to hell".
But the dead sea scrolls proved this prophecy is false as the scrolls found in cave 1 show that the old testament we have is not corrupted like Nephi said. And the other caves have proven this also with more books of the old testament. Jesus said he was the "word" of God and was one with the Father (not a previous humanoid) as a false prophet would say. God bless you.
Evidence for Book of Mormon in ancient America- none
Evidence showing Book of Mormon is a 19th century religious fiction:
No wheat, no barley, no goats, no steel found in the Americas, no metal smelting furnaces, no metal armor, no temples, no steel swords, no skeletons of these warriors, no graves, no cities (it would be impossible for a city the size of Zarahemla to leave no trace), no cattle, no chariot parts, no Nephite coins (listed in book of Alma as being used for a thousand years), no Jewish relics from supposed jews, no metal plates like Nephites supposedly had, no artifacts whatsoever, no Nephite "reformed Egyptian" writings; and no evidence the book of Mormon "prophets" ever existed. There is zero archaeological, anthropological, topological, linguistic, or DNA evidence to support the Book of Mormon. It would be impossible for highly advanced civilizations (Jaredites, Nephites) with millions of people to have vanished off the face of the earth
The whole face of the land had become covered with buildings” (Mormon 1:7) “Two million Jaredites slain” (Ether 15:2) 38 cities are catalogued in the Book of Mormon, along with iron, steel, brass, metal swords, breast-plates, shields, armor, or chariots. Yet, not one item mentioned in the Book of Mormon has ever been discovered in America.
The Book of Mormon speaks of sheep, swine, goats, wheat, barley, silk, and elephants-even though they weren’t brought to America until centuries later by Europeans in post-Columbian times. Again we see that Joseph Smith was thinking about things in his current day as he was fabricating the Book of Mormon.
CAN WE TRUST OUR HEARTS as to book of Mormon since there is no evidence?
Maroni chapter 10:4 says: "he will manifest the truth of it unto you" But:
THE BIBLE WARNS YOU about trusting your own heart. Jeremiah 17:9 "the heart is deceitful above all things". Proverbs 28:26 "He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool." Please don't be a fool.
The entire belief system and premise of Mormonism is based on a false claim the Bible was corrupted and "plain and precious parts" were removed by early Christian translators sometime after the apostles had all died. This is a very dangerous claim to make against the word of God, especially since God promised us his word would never pass away and would be with us forever (Isaiah 40:8; Psalms 100:5; Matthew 16:18, 24:35; 1 Peter 1:23-25).
An Objective Test of the Bible and Book of Mormon
The Claim: In the Book of Mormon, the prophet Nephi has a vision the Bible was corrupted after the 12 apostles preached it and after the formation of the “great and abominable church” (1 Nephi 13:26-29). Most Mormons believe this to be the Catholic Church which was formed early in the 4th century. Nephi claims this church was founded by the Devil to lead souls to hell (1 Nephi 14:3). So let’s objectively examine both the Bible and the Book of Mormon to be fair and test if any have errors.
Bible:
The earliest Dead Sea Scrolls have been historically dated by three different dating techniques to as early as 350 BC. Included in this discovery was the Great Isaiah Scroll, which is the oldest known complete copy of the Book of Isaiah and is dated to approximately 200 BC.
Study the dead sea scrolls which are over 2,000 years old and see if they have Joseph Smith's uncorrupted version. They should if Joseph Smith was correct and the bible had been corrupted over time but, no they do not. They are the same today as they were over 2,100 years ago with only minor spelling or punctuation differences. Joseph Smith was wrong. The bible had not been corrupted.
The new testament has not been corrupted either. Take for example John 1:1 a very important verse than Smith changed to make Jesus a created being. A papyri known as the Bodmer Papyri which is almost 1900 years old. (note that this was written not long after the apostle John would have died and it shows joseph smith changed the book of John, not that it got corrupted later as he alleged)
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. ΕΝ ΑΡΧΗ ΗΝ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΚΑΙ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΗΝ ΠΡΟΣ ΤΟΝ ΘΕΟΝ ΚΑΙ ΘΕΟΣ ΗΝ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ
I post this in love. The manuscript and archeological evidence for the bible is the greatest of anything in antiquity. I pray that you know the real Jesus, the alpha and omega of all of creation. Know real peace, love and true salvation.
Nice expression 'a new peeling of the onion`
@brettpinion4233 The revelations in that chapter of 1 Nephi has a lot of indication that it's referring to the time after the Bible's completion. So even though the revelation came during the time period of the Old Testament the revelation was referring to the time period of the great apostasy which is after the New Testament was completed. And thank you - God bless you also. 🙏
@@josephine79 I agree. But the dead sea scrolls are older than the great apostacy it speaks of and we see the old testament in the bible is the same today as it was over 2,100 years ago before the great apostasy. Joseph Smith was wrong. The old testament was not corrupted. The scrolls could not have been touched by the Catholics. Also this scroll is a Jewish production, and the Book of Mormon claims that the Jews had the Scriptures in their "purity".
LDS Apologist Wayne Ham was forced to the conclusion that the Isaiah scroll does not support the text in the Book of Mormon.
Mormon apologist Dr. Sidney B. Sperry, of Brigham Young University, had to admit that the Dead Sea Scrolls do not help the case for the Book of Mormon but uphold the validity of the bible.
Please consider and I would love to hear your thoughts. God of the bible bless you.
Thanks for this. Iam reading this in kenya kambu town i will share this in all my groups its interesting iam a faithful latter-day saint baptished when i was 14years
So let’s objectively examine both the Bible and the Book of Mormon to be fair and test if any have errors.
Book of Mormon:
“The whole face of the land had become covered with buildings” (Mormon 1:7) “Two million Jaredites slain” (Ether 15:2) 38 cities are catalogued in the Book of Mormon, along with iron, steel, brass, metal swords, breast-plates, shields, armor, or chariots. Yet, not one item mentioned in the Book of Mormon has ever been discovered in America.
The Book of Mormon speaks of sheep, swine, goats, wheat, barley, silk, and elephants-even though they weren’t brought to America until centuries later by Europeans in post-Columbian times. Again we see that Joseph Smith was thinking about things in his current day as he was fabricating the Book of Mormon.
Bible:
Today roughly 40,000 combinations of manuscripts exist of the Old and New Testaments proving them to be by far the most verifiable and trusted documents of antiquity. Many of these Old Testament manuscripts are decades and centuries before the birth of Jesus. Namely, the Dead Sea Scrolls, one of the most significant discoveries since antiquity, were discovered in 1947, over 100 years after the Book of Mormon was accusing the Bible of being corrupted. This discovery is remarkably important, especially for the Mormon, because prior to this discovery, the oldest known complete Old Testament manuscript in existence was the Masoretic Text from around 980 AD. Since 980 AD is well after the Book of Mormon claims when the corruption of the Bible occurred, it was impossible to prove the perfect preservation of the Bible.
Thank you Brother Olson
loved his story! 😊 Joseph Smith was 14 then when he inquired of the Lord!
Awesome interview!!
Dang!! This is so good
I liked a lot Jason conversion story. Very interesting.
Okay, I wish I knew this when Jason was my ministering brother in Pyeongtaek, Korea. I did hear a little at our military district conference earlier this year before he left. We love Jason and his companion Caleb. Fortunately, I was in the circle when we set Caleb as a missionary shortly after Jason returned back to the states. Awesome interview.
I’m dying to hear a part 2
I enjoyed this discussion so much I bought Jason's audiobook. Listening to it now.
This has been one of the most interesting episodes!
Perhaps to the spiritually dead and blind.
@@hewhohasearstohearlethimhe9509 That's a weird thing to say.
@@loudogg73 ,...Perhaps, However, my point was, this is only interesting to those who do not understand the Bible and who are outside of the kingdom of God. Mormonism is a 100% false, manmade, unbiblical, antigod, antibible, antichrist, religion of the accursed of God, (the spiritually dead and blind).
@hewhohasearstohearlethimhe9509
Can you elaborate on your comment please? What do mean by "Perhaps to the spiritually dead and blind"? Thanks.
And I agree with @loudogg73, "that's a weird thing to say".
God bless you and yours and take care.
@@jonathanray7931 ,...As I explained to loudog,... Perhaps, However, my point was, this is only interesting to those who do not understand the Bible and who are outside of the kingdom of God. Mormonism is a 100% false, manmade, unbiblical, antigod, antibible, antichrist, religion of the accursed of God, (the spiritually dead and blind).
At 1hour:1 minute, you said you talked to Rabbi Kravitz. Is that Rabbi Bob Kravitz of Scottsdale Arizona? If so, I love that guy!! We were chaplains together with the Arizona DPS. (Highway Patrol) I have a tremendous amount of respect for him. He was one of the chaplains that helped me through my LDS faith crisis.
Thank you for this.
Very powerful testimony! ❤❤❤❤
I just bought the book….now, where can I buy an MBR hat.
mormonbookreviews.com
He WASN'T curious about what they "BELIEVED" , he was interested in DEBUNKING their beliefs , in an effort to gain SOMETHING to believe at the same time as he was looking to bolster his own budding set of beliefs . This is NOT unusual in the conscious _purposeful_ doubter/skeptic , but to HIS credit , he WAS willing to _challenge_ his *own* burgeoning prejudices . Good for _him_ !
I find he’s very much rooted in Jewish teaching and tradition . Paul had much work changing the beliefs of the Jews ,who believed in Jesus as the Messiah , because they couldn’t understand the law of Moses was fulfilled and now obsolete. I can understand how difficult it must be to change when one was so immersed in Jewish study and tradition.
My son is a Messianic Jew and he tries to pick a fight with our faith. He has told me that my husband and I are going to HELL!! We are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
He needs to watch this episode!
That must be very difficult for you to hear that! Always let him know that you love him. I hope he watches this video.
Great video. I'm hoping that as I go next to you channel, I'll find "Part II".
Yes… he needs to come back often
Great episode!
This channel is one of the oddest channels I have come across. I don’t really understand why an evangelical would want to review LDS books. What is his motivation? But that being said, I enjoyed this guest. I am going to buy his book. I love books by Avraham Gileadi as a Jewish convert before he converted to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
So let’s objectively examine both the Bible and the Book of Mormon to be fair and test if any have errors.
Book of Mormon:
“The whole face of the land had become covered with buildings” (Mormon 1:7) “Two million Jaredites slain” (Ether 15:2) 38 cities are catalogued in the Book of Mormon, along with iron, steel, brass, metal swords, breast-plates, shields, armor, or chariots. Yet, not one item mentioned in the Book of Mormon has ever been discovered in America.
The Book of Mormon speaks of sheep, swine, goats, wheat, barley, silk, and elephants-even though they weren’t brought to America until centuries later by Europeans in post-Columbian times. Again we see that Joseph Smith was thinking about things in his current day as he was fabricating the Book of Mormon.
Bible:
Today roughly 40,000 combinations of manuscripts exist of the Old and New Testaments proving them to be by far the most verifiable and trusted documents of antiquity. Many of these Old Testament manuscripts are decades and centuries before the birth of Jesus. Namely, the Dead Sea Scrolls, one of the most significant discoveries since antiquity, were discovered in 1947, over 100 years after the Book of Mormon was accusing the Bible of being corrupted. This discovery is remarkably important, especially for the Mormon, because prior to this discovery, the oldest known complete Old Testament manuscript in existence was the Masoretic Text from around 980 AD. Since 980 AD is well after the Book of Mormon claims when the corruption of the Bible occurred, it was impossible to prove the perfect preservation of the Bible.
Thank you 😊 ❤
For anyone who is curious, Jason is a co-host of the channel, "2 Converts."
Oooh!!! I want to see this! Jason Olson is so cool.
40:14 this is super important, because a lot of people do not understand the power of the book of Mormon has to convert people, especially the Jews unto the Jesus Christ
I think this is a wonderful interview and extremely fascinating. I have started reading this book and appreciate the story and journey.
I would strongly recommend and suggest we follow the prophet Russell M Nelson and refer to our church as the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. There in fact is no such thing as a Mormon Church and there is not a faith of Mormonism. These are and have been used as derogatory terms and we have been directed by modern day revelation to refer to the Lords church as He has asked and founded.
Just got it on Audible. Can’t wait!
Ya man I watch tovia too he aint no joke this man walks away from Tovia into mormonism. Wow.
Kolob is the actual joke !
@@davidjanbaz7728 the spirit isn't though
@Jason Olson
When did you work on the "Joseph Smith Papers"? Which part? Did you happen to meet or know a Lara Sadler Petersen who also worked on them? I think she was a copywriter and had some other roles as well. But anyway she is a first cousin of mine on my mom and her mom's side of the family who are sisters to each other. Cool to hear you talk about the "Joseph Smith Papers".
God bless you and yours and take care.
I didn’t know her but thank you!
Rabbi Tovia Singer's a treasure. I heard the "In the Book" podcast episode before I read the book. Didn't know the Rabbi was the person he was referencing." I would like to meet him, such an interesting person.
Thank you
Delightful ! 🙏🏼Thank You! ~ 🗝Really Touched me ♥️✡️🕊
I'm not Jewish, but in our house, we do celebrate Rosh Hashana and the Day of Atonement, Passover, etc. Not with animal sacrifices but it's a good time to sit with the family and have fun eating while seeing how these feast point to Jesus.
The Spring Festivals of Passover and Pentecost are fulfilled with Christ earthly ministry and the early apostles. The fall festivals starting with Rosh Hashana point to the Restoration, Second Coming, and Millennium.
Joseph Smith received the gold plates on Rosh Hashin 1827, plus section 29 as well as others of the Doctrine and Covenants were given in that 10 day period of reflection between Rosh Hashana and Day of Atonement in 1830. The them behind that section is about emphasizing Christ Atonement, sounding of Trumpets, gather and the millennial reign.
Jason: At :57 ish, your Rabbi talks abt how you made a spiritual covenant before you were born … do Jews believe in a pre-mortality life then? I’ve wondered abt this before.
Where can I purchase “The Burning Book”
28:33 BoM Title page ? Professor Stephen H Webb wrote his book about "Jesus Christ, Eternal God.." and came as a guest from Wabash University to BYU Interpreter Foundation. 39:55
You should have Lindsey Perlman on too. She's a Jewish convert as well.
it is simple.
the latter-day saints are the restoration of jewish christianity.
the christianity of christ.
LOL 😆
correct
Evidence for Book of Mormon in ancient America- none
Evidence showing Book of Mormon is a 19th century religious fiction:
No wheat, no barley, no goats, no steel found in the Americas, no metal smelting furnaces, no metal armor, no temples, no steel swords, no skeletons of these warriors, no graves, no cities (it would be impossible for a city the size of Zarahemla to leave no trace), no cattle, no chariot parts, no Nephite coins (listed in book of Alma as being used for a thousand years), no Jewish relics from supposed jews, no metal plates like Nephites supposedly had, no artifacts whatsoever, no Nephite "reformed Egyptian" writings; and no evidence the book of Mormon "prophets" ever existed. There is zero archaeological, anthropological, topological, linguistic, or DNA evidence to support the Book of Mormon. It would be impossible for highly advanced civilizations (Jaredites, Nephites) with millions of people to have vanished off the face of the earth
The whole face of the land had become covered with buildings” (Mormon 1:7) “Two million Jaredites slain” (Ether 15:2) 38 cities are catalogued in the Book of Mormon, along with iron, steel, brass, metal swords, breast-plates, shields, armor, or chariots. Yet, not one item mentioned in the Book of Mormon has ever been discovered in America.
The Book of Mormon speaks of sheep, swine, goats, wheat, barley, silk, and elephants-even though they weren’t brought to America until centuries later by Europeans in post-Columbian times. Again we see that Joseph Smith was thinking about things in his current day as he was fabricating the Book of Mormon.
CAN WE TRUST OUR HEARTS as to book of Mormon since there is no evidence?
Maroni chapter 10:4 says: "he will manifest the truth of it unto you" But:
THE BIBLE WARNS YOU about trusting your own heart. Jeremiah 17:9 "the heart is deceitful above all things". Proverbs 28:26 "He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool." Please don't be a fool.
The entire belief system and premise of Mormonism is based on a false claim the Bible was corrupted and "plain and precious parts" were removed by early Christian translators sometime after the apostles had all died. This is a very dangerous claim to make against the word of God, especially since God promised us his word would never pass away and would be with us forever (Isaiah 40:8; Psalms 100:5; Matthew 16:18, 24:35; 1 Peter 1:23-25).
An Objective Test of the Bible and Book of Mormon
The Claim: In the Book of Mormon, the prophet Nephi has a vision the Bible was corrupted after the 12 apostles preached it and after the formation of the “great and abominable church” (1 Nephi 13:26-29). Most Mormons believe this to be the Catholic Church which was formed early in the 4th century. Nephi claims this church was founded by the Devil to lead souls to hell (1 Nephi 14:3). So let’s objectively examine both the Bible and the Book of Mormon to be fair and test if any have errors.
Bible:
The earliest Dead Sea Scrolls have been historically dated by three different dating techniques to as early as 350 BC. Included in this discovery was the Great Isaiah Scroll, which is the oldest known complete copy of the Book of Isaiah and is dated to approximately 200 BC.
Study the dead sea scrolls which are over 2,000 years old and see if they have Joseph Smith's uncorrupted version. They should if Joseph Smith was correct and the bible had been corrupted over time but, no they do not. They are the same today as they were over 2,100 years ago with only minor spelling or punctuation differences. Joseph Smith was wrong. The bible had not been corrupted.
The new testament has not been corrupted either. Take for example John 1:1 a very important verse than Smith changed to make Jesus a created being. A papyri known as the Bodmer Papyri which is almost 1900 years old. (note that this was written not long after the apostle John would have died and it shows joseph smith changed the book of John, not that it got corrupted later as he alleged)
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. ΕΝ ΑΡΧΗ ΗΝ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΚΑΙ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΗΝ ΠΡΟΣ ΤΟΝ ΘΕΟΝ ΚΑΙ ΘΕΟΣ ΗΝ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ
I post this in love. The manuscript and archeological evidence for the bible is the greatest of anything in antiquity. I pray that you know the real Jesus, the alpha and omega of all of creation. Know real peace, love and true salvation.
@@davidjanbaz7728
LOL is not actually a rebuttal ... in fact, it proves you have no rebuttal.
@@halodisciple8459
incorrect. LOL is not a rebuttal ... in fact, indicates he has no rebuttal.
YES I LIKE THIS VIDEO. GREAT PERSPECTIVE. AN EYE OPENER. A GEAD TURNER. THANKS TO MBR FOR ALLOWING A THOUGHTFUL, OPEN DISCUSSION. GREATFUL, CHANGED MORE INTELLIGENT I FUL. WE LIVE IN AN AGE JUST BEFORE THE 2ND COMING OF CHRIST. DO WE CAN BE MORE LEARNED, INTELLIGENCE, STUDIOUS.
Personally I think that we as LDS need to celebrate more Jewish holidays. I like Passover more than Easter Bunny, and egg hunts
Yes. The Easter Bunny is definitely secular. Too many holy days have been changed to holidays.
I too have read the book of Mormon. A very good friend gave it to me. I was quite confused because it has the exact words of the Christian Bible in many places, which preceded the book of Mormon. My verification for any “Holy Book” follows: IS it historical? I can’t find the history that Mormons claim. If you know where it is, please share. IS there archeological proof? Again, I haven’t seen any for the Book of Mormon. IS there scientific proof?
The first 40 pages have been archaeologically supported. They've discovered location where Ishmael was buried (Nahom) and for further credibility, have discovered a burial site that buried guest with a headstone for Ishmael. They've also discovered, in the 20th century, the Narrative of Zosimus, about a man leaving Jerusalem, doing most of the things Lehi and his company did, then leaving for a "blessed land" where the Messiah appears to them.
Thank you for your sincere questions. The answer depends largely on whether you believe the Book of Mormon, another Testament of Jesus Christ, is a work of fiction -- 156,000 words written by Joseph Smith, an unlearned farm boy, over about 85 days in 1829. Or translated by the gift and power of God, over those same 85 days, from an ancient record left intentionally by holy prophets who dwelt in the Americas between 600 BC and 400 AD. As a comparison, J.R.R. Tolkien took over 12 years to write The Lord of the Rings series and 6+ years for CS Lewis to write The Chronicles of Narnia.
I would invite you to do an internet search "on who assembled the books of the Bible". You will find that the current New Testament underwent much debate and controversy from 180 AD to around 400 AD, with much less debate over the books of Old Testament. The Book of Mormon is the stick of Joseph that the prophet Ezekiel saw would become one with the stick of Judah in chapter 34. Both are evidence that our great God in Heaven is no respecter of persons (Acts 10:34) and is the God of the entire earth.
The Book of Mormon contains and account of cataclysmic destruction that occurring at the time of Christ's crucifixion followed by the resurrected Savior, Jesus Christ, visiting and teaching his other sheep just as He said He would in John 10:16. (see 3 Neph 8-23).
There is a lot of archeological evidence connecting the Book of Mormon to scientific discoveries in Ancient America. One of many well written books is, Messiah in Ancient America by Bruce Warrenand Stuart Thomas.
I hope this helps. Best wishes in gaining a better understanding of the Book of Mormon.
These are good questions and to start, you may remember that Lehi's family brought with them from Jerusalem scriptures on brass plates which belonged to the tribe of Joseph and was their copy of the Old Testament. It would have been almost identical to the tribe of Judah's copy of the Old Testament which is where the Bible was taken from. In the Book of Mormon they often quoted from these plates of scriptures - especially from the words of Isaiah. In the same way Prophets in the Old and New Testament in the Bible quoted past Prophets, so did the Prophets in the Book of Mormon.
You also asked for evidences that support the Book of Mormon. Others have shared some good ones above and I'll share some too below.
But foremost, we recommend asking God, who knows all things, sincerely if it is true. As Christ has said it is blessed if "flesh and blood hath not revealed it to you, but my Father which is in Heaven."
But here are a few more of the evidences which support the Book of Mormon. Each one below includes links for both LDS and outside sources...
•Steel recently discovered to exist before the time of Lehi's family in Jerusalem which was 600 BC and not far from them, likely owned by some high dignitaries, such as rulers or military leaders. This supports that King Laban's sword could have been made of steel as the Book of Mormon describes...
newatlas.com/science/archeological-discovery-steel-used-earlier/
(Isreal Museum Journal - the Vered Jericho sword was steel and existed during 7th century BC...)
books.google.com.au/books?id=WJdaAAAAIAAJ&q=Vered+Jericho&redir_esc=y
ruclips.net/video/BG7YKl7tSfY/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/uXAIkM13apc/видео.html
bookofmormoncentral.org/qa/how-could-laban-have-possessed-a-sword-of-%E2%80%9Cmost-precious-steel%E2%80%9D
•LiDAR scanners
This newer technology has revealed that much larger civilizations existed in the Americas than what was previously known or thought which fits the descriptions of the large civilizations in the Book of Mormon and it also shows these large civilizations existed during the time the Book of Mormon takes place. (Also, other areas of the Americas than just the ones I have included have had LiDar and burial discoveries, such as the mounds in North America)
bookofmormoncentral.org/blog/4-ways-the-new-maya-discoveries-may-relate-to-the-book-of-mormon
www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/maya-laser-lidar-guatemala-pacunam
-Along with what @DiffQ_bro shared about a recently discovered ancient grave site that belongs to a man named Ishmael at the right time period and location of Nahom as mentioned in the Book of Mormon...
Before that, but also fairly recent (1980s) they discovered the ancient inscription "NHM" at that location where the Book of Mormon says the area of Nahom was at and it also existed at the time of Lehi's family in 600 BC.
How ancient the names of places were was not revealed on maps so even if Joseph Smith could have had access to the rare maps that included that name (which were held no where near his location), they did not reveal which names were called that anciently as far back as the time of Lehi's family...
ruclips.net/video/EOPFob0cjfw/видео.html
www.kialo.com/the-burial-place-of-nahom-mentioned-during-lehis-travels-in-arabia-three-altars-with-the-name-nhm-hebrew-for-nahom-have-4628.1118?path=4628.0~4628.1-4628.2525_4628.2459-4628.270_4628.1118
ruclips.net/video/fa9cInqwO6s/видео.html
•Stylometric Analysis
Independent stylometric analysis of the Book of Mormon shows there are 28 different individual styles of writing which do not match Joseph Smith's or any of his associates. While it says maybe a handful of different styles could potentially be pulled off by a skilled writer, it would be highly unlikely to impossible to accomplish 28 distinct styles.
And in Joseph Smith's time this science did not exist nor was the concept known that distinct writing styles could ever be detected to reveal the actual writer. So Joseph Smith wouldn't have had any reason to consider he would need to have 28 different people write it to keep the appearance that it was authentic, nor could they find anyone he knew who matched the writing styles that are in the Book of Mormon...
knowhy.bookofmormoncentral.org/knowhy/is-it-possible-that-a-single-author-wrote-the-book-of-mormon
christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/92453/how-do-non-lds-christians-respond-to-the-stylometry-argument-for-the-authenticit
•Hebraisms throughout the Book of Mormon
ruclips.net/video/7_xbqr5WZ_o/видео.html
mit.irr.org/land-of-promise-and-hebraisms-in-book-of-mormon
•Stela 5, Izapa (while the LDS church does *not* claim this as a carving of Lehi's dream, this artifact found at the archeological site of Izapa does have over a dozen corresponding figures in it that align with Lehi's dream from the Book of Mormon, indicating this may be a depiction of the dream, carved by the people who lived anciently in the area of Chiapas, Mexico)
www.livingheritagetours.com/lehis-dream-mexico/
rsc.byu.edu/book-mormon-first-nephi-doctrinal-foundation/stela-5-izapa-laymans-consideration-tree-life-stone
Something else to consider is since the percentage of the Old World that has been scouted is significantly higher than the New World, there is naturally much more discovered in the Old World and still a majority left of the New World to be scouted and discovered.
For many more evidences that support the Book of Mormon, I recommend the RUclips channel Book of Mormon Central. I hope this helps and God bless you and your family. 🙏
Remember that the book was compiled in 400AD by Mormon who knew of the biblical Jesus and was transcribed into the printers copy and then again by the printer, so there are lots of places where things could have been "corrected" by using the Bible at the time to correlate verses. Fur example, the book of Mormon quotes Isaiah a lot and the book of Mormon aligns the verses to match the Bible, even though both original works didn't have chapters or verses, but it's just convenient to the reader. So as Moroni said, if there are mistakes, they are the mistakes of men and do not condemn the things of God.
I keep getting the feeling I should include to my comment above that "fless and blood" refers to a mortal body and "flesh and bones" refers to a resurrected body as Jesus described he had to the apostles after His resurrection. I hope that helps not to confuse our beliefs in the kind of body our Father in Heaven has. He does not have blood as this is a mortal feature of the body, but a body of flesh and bones which is immortal. I hope this helps.
Cults also make you disconnect from anyone (shun) not in the cult.
The Book of Mormon shows Jesus Christ as fulfilling all the prophecies of the Messiah as he visits a branch of Israel that had migrated to ancient America two thousand years ago. It is a foretaste of what he will do at the Second Coming.
Is there any way to contact Jason?
1:21:20 it fulfills the scripture in Isaiah that says “Ephraim shall mot vex Judah”. Ephraim is those British Israelites who came and lived in Zion (the New Jerusalem or SLC area which is the same as the Old Jerusalem turned upside down)
Acts 20:28
Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood. 29For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. 30Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves. 31Therefore watch, and remember that for three years I did not cease to warn everyone night and day with tears.
At 1:12 you make a really good argument Steve.
What happened to the “ rest of the story about mana ? “
Matt Fradd should probably watch this one.
Very educational, interesting, and inspirational. I wonder why Jason Olson pronounces SINAI as SI'-A-NY...it seems we should say Se-'nay or Se'-nie. What is considered correct?
I've seen many hours of Tovia Singer videos. I find him unconvincing.
Thank you so much for your conversion story. Jason - I would like to say that LDS do have a pretty big heaven. Most will go there, but they will get a 2nd chance when they are resurrected to accept Christ. Matt 25 and Revelation make it clear that the wicked are resurrected. However, those who have not yet accepted Christ in the spirit world of Hell or Spirit Prison will lose their chance to gain the celestial kingdom by waiting to accept Christ until their resurrection at their judgment, because they lacked valiance. This is where Christ went before His resurrection to teach those who could live godly according to 1 Peter 3. After His resurrection Christ told Mary He had not yet ascended to His Father in Heaven. He had been in Paradise and Spirit Prison.
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Did Jason Olson go to Israel to war against Hamas?
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Joseph Smith has a Jewish ancestor on his mother’s side I believe
Evidence for Book of Mormon in ancient America- none
Evidence showing Book of Mormon is a 19th century religious fiction:
No wheat, no barley, no goats, no steel found in the Americas, no metal smelting furnaces, no metal armor, no temples, no steel swords, no skeletons of these warriors, no graves, no cities (it would be impossible for a city the size of Zarahemla to leave no trace), no cattle, no chariot parts, no Nephite coins (listed in book of Alma as being used for a thousand years), no Jewish relics from supposed jews, no metal plates like Nephites supposedly had, no artifacts whatsoever, no Nephite "reformed Egyptian" writings; and no evidence the book of Mormon "prophets" ever existed. There is zero archaeological, anthropological, topological, linguistic, or DNA evidence to support the Book of Mormon. It would be impossible for highly advanced civilizations (Jaredites, Nephites) with millions of people to have vanished off the face of the earth
The whole face of the land had become covered with buildings” (Mormon 1:7) “Two million Jaredites slain” (Ether 15:2) 38 cities are catalogued in the Book of Mormon, along with iron, steel, brass, metal swords, breast-plates, shields, armor, or chariots. Yet, not one item mentioned in the Book of Mormon has ever been discovered in America.
The Book of Mormon speaks of sheep, swine, goats, wheat, barley, silk, and elephants-even though they weren’t brought to America until centuries later by Europeans in post-Columbian times. Again we see that Joseph Smith was thinking about things in his current day as he was fabricating the Book of Mormon.
CAN WE TRUST OUR HEARTS as to book of Mormon since there is no evidence?
Maroni chapter 10:4 says: "he will manifest the truth of it unto you" But:
THE BIBLE WARNS YOU about trusting your own heart. Jeremiah 17:9 "the heart is deceitful above all things". Proverbs 28:26 "He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool." Please don't be a fool.
The entire belief system and premise of Mormonism is based on a false claim the Bible was corrupted and "plain and precious parts" were removed by early Christian translators sometime after the apostles had all died. This is a very dangerous claim to make against the word of God, especially since God promised us his word would never pass away and would be with us forever (Isaiah 40:8; Psalms 100:5; Matthew 16:18, 24:35; 1 Peter 1:23-25).
An Objective Test of the Bible and Book of Mormon
The Claim: In the Book of Mormon, the prophet Nephi has a vision the Bible was corrupted after the 12 apostles preached it and after the formation of the “great and abominable church” (1 Nephi 13:26-29). Most Mormons believe this to be the Catholic Church which was formed early in the 4th century. Nephi claims this church was founded by the Devil to lead souls to hell (1 Nephi 14:3). So let’s objectively examine both the Bible and the Book of Mormon to be fair and test if any have errors.
Bible:
The earliest Dead Sea Scrolls have been historically dated by three different dating techniques to as early as 350 BC. Included in this discovery was the Great Isaiah Scroll, which is the oldest known complete copy of the Book of Isaiah and is dated to approximately 200 BC.
Study the dead sea scrolls which are over 2,000 years old and see if they have Joseph Smith's uncorrupted version. They should if Joseph Smith was correct and the bible had been corrupted over time but, no they do not. They are the same today as they were over 2,100 years ago with only minor spelling or punctuation differences. Joseph Smith was wrong. The bible had not been corrupted.
The new testament has not been corrupted either. Take for example John 1:1 a very important verse than Smith changed to make Jesus a created being. A papyri known as the Bodmer Papyri which is almost 1900 years old. (note that this was written not long after the apostle John would have died and it shows joseph smith changed the book of John, not that it got corrupted later as he alleged)
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. ΕΝ ΑΡΧΗ ΗΝ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΚΑΙ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΗΝ ΠΡΟΣ ΤΟΝ ΘΕΟΝ ΚΑΙ ΘΕΟΣ ΗΝ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ
I post this in love. The manuscript and archeological evidence for the bible is the greatest of anything in antiquity. I pray that you know the real Jesus, the alpha and omega of all of creation. Know real peace, love and true salvation.
Interesting. Can you give a reference so I can read more about that?
@@rutht2023 I’m not sure of the reference. It’s been many years ago I learned that. I believe you can look up his genealogy on ancestry or possibly Family tree. It may have been in Wilford Woodruffs diary.
@@rutht2023I Is there any DNA evidence to support the Book of Mormon's claim that Native Americans descend from Jews?
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There is currently no DNA evidence to support the Book of Mormon's claim that Native Americans are of Jewish descent. The majority of scientists and geneticists believe that the ancestors of the Native Americans came from Asia, crossing the land bridge from Siberia to Alaska around 12,000 to 15,000 years ago.Additionally, the genetic evidence does not support the idea that the ancestors of the Native Americans had Middle Eastern origins. Studies have shown that the majority of the genetic ancestry of Native Americans comes from East Asia, with some also coming from Western Eurasia and the Arctic.It's important to note that while the Book of Mormon is considered a sacred text by members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, it is not considered a historical or scientific document by most scholars and scientists.
@@ajknitter8784 It is a lie. Like the book of Mormon. Look to the bible which has actual evidence and a true God. God bless. s there any DNA evidence to support the Book of Mormon's claim that Native Americans descend from Jews?
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There is currently no DNA evidence to support the Book of Mormon's claim that Native Americans are of Jewish descent. The majority of scientists and geneticists believe that the ancestors of the Native Americans came from Asia, crossing the land bridge from Siberia to Alaska around 12,000 to 15,000 years ago. Additionally, the genetic evidence does not support the idea that the ancestors of the Native Americans had Middle Eastern origins. Studies have shown that the majority of the genetic ancestry of Native Americans comes from East Asia, with some also coming from Western Eurasia and the Arctic. It's important to note that while the Book of Mormon is considered a sacred text by members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, it is not considered a historical or scientific document by most scholars and scientists.
56:45 interesting. A bit of preexistence and born in the covenant. Who knew?
We dont seek answers only from the book of mormon we believe the king james version of the bible to be the word of God also
The bom is a 100% false manmade abomination. It has no basis whatsoever in truth nor reality. It is a manmade fraud.
Evidence for Book of Mormon in ancient America- none
Evidence showing Book of Mormon is a 19th century religious fiction:
No wheat, no barley, no goats, no steel found in the Americas, no metal smelting furnaces, no metal armor, no temples, no steel swords, no skeletons of these warriors, no graves, no cities (it would be impossible for a city the size of Zarahemla to leave no trace), no cattle, no chariot parts, no Nephite coins (listed in book of Alma as being used for a thousand years), no Jewish relics from supposed jews, no metal plates like Nephites supposedly had, no artifacts whatsoever, no Nephite "reformed Egyptian" writings; and no evidence the book of Mormon "prophets" ever existed. There is zero archaeological, anthropological, topological, linguistic, or DNA evidence to support the Book of Mormon. It would be impossible for highly advanced civilizations (Jaredites, Nephites) with millions of people to have vanished off the face of the earth
The whole face of the land had become covered with buildings” (Mormon 1:7) “Two million Jaredites slain” (Ether 15:2) 38 cities are catalogued in the Book of Mormon, along with iron, steel, brass, metal swords, breast-plates, shields, armor, or chariots. Yet, not one item mentioned in the Book of Mormon has ever been discovered in America.
The Book of Mormon speaks of sheep, swine, goats, wheat, barley, silk, and elephants-even though they weren’t brought to America until centuries later by Europeans in post-Columbian times. Again we see that Joseph Smith was thinking about things in his current day as he was fabricating the Book of Mormon.
CAN WE TRUST OUR HEARTS as to book of Mormon since there is no evidence?
Maroni chapter 10:4 says: "he will manifest the truth of it unto you" But:
THE BIBLE WARNS YOU about trusting your own heart. Jeremiah 17:9 "the heart is deceitful above all things". Proverbs 28:26 "He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool." Please don't be a fool.
The entire belief system and premise of Mormonism is based on a false claim the Bible was corrupted and "plain and precious parts" were removed by early Christian translators sometime after the apostles had all died. This is a very dangerous claim to make against the word of God, especially since God promised us his word would never pass away and would be with us forever (Isaiah 40:8; Psalms 100:5; Matthew 16:18, 24:35; 1 Peter 1:23-25).
An Objective Test of the Bible and Book of Mormon
The Claim: In the Book of Mormon, the prophet Nephi has a vision the Bible was corrupted after the 12 apostles preached it and after the formation of the “great and abominable church” (1 Nephi 13:26-29). Most Mormons believe this to be the Catholic Church which was formed early in the 4th century. Nephi claims this church was founded by the Devil to lead souls to hell (1 Nephi 14:3). So let’s objectively examine both the Bible and the Book of Mormon to be fair and test if any have errors.
Bible:
The earliest Dead Sea Scrolls have been historically dated by three different dating techniques to as early as 350 BC. Included in this discovery was the Great Isaiah Scroll, which is the oldest known complete copy of the Book of Isaiah and is dated to approximately 200 BC.
Study the dead sea scrolls which are over 2,000 years old and see if they have Joseph Smith's uncorrupted version. They should if Joseph Smith was correct and the bible had been corrupted over time but, no they do not. They are the same today as they were over 2,100 years ago with only minor spelling or punctuation differences. Joseph Smith was wrong. The bible had not been corrupted.
The new testament has not been corrupted either. Take for example John 1:1 a very important verse than Smith changed to make Jesus a created being. A papyri known as the Bodmer Papyri which is almost 1900 years old. (note that this was written not long after the apostle John would have died and it shows joseph smith changed the book of John, not that it got corrupted later as he alleged)
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. ΕΝ ΑΡΧΗ ΗΝ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΚΑΙ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΗΝ ΠΡΟΣ ΤΟΝ ΘΕΟΝ ΚΑΙ ΘΕΟΣ ΗΝ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ
I post this in love. The manuscript and archeological evidence for the bible is the greatest of anything in antiquity. I pray that you know the real Jesus, the alpha and omega of all of creation. Know real peace, love and true salvation.
The Jews will turn to the Lord in the last days. The title made me laugh.
The Scribes and Pharisees sit in Moses's seat whatever HE (Moses) said do. the original is a mis translation in the New Testament, look into Nehemia Gordon's Hebrew Gospel Pearls.