Thanks for this food for thought. Why not put up a small storm jib winched in tight to just give a bit of directional stability? My yacht is 33 feet and whist will sail ok by main alone it has less directional control in over 20 kts with no or little head sail out. Best
Yup. Even among the “experts” there is debate within the community about how best to forereach. The articles I cited both say no headsail, but I found others that suggested a “sliver” of headsail or a storm jib. Ultimately, it comes down to: “know your boat.” Every boat has different dynamics and may require some tweaking in the sail plan to achieve the desired effect. 😃⛵️
I agree with your opinion, a small amount of sail (Storm jib) in the foretriangle together with a deeply reefed main will balance the rig helping to steer the boat upwind and will increase boat speed helping to power through the seas.
I agree with some experience behind it. Forereached through a front in the ocean, decent seas. It made steering a challenge, trying sail to the waves, yet getting rounded up in gusts. A small headsail, trimmed right would have given balance and less struggle for the helm.
Well l tried this, along with heaving too on my clipper ship route from Mazatlan to San Diego. This didn't work at all on my boat as i am a single hander and the last thing ivwant to do is spend hours at the tiller. Heaving to worked, it was an easy motion and you didn't loose a lot of distance but I couldnt figure out how to stop the chafe on the jib sheet.
As I’m a lake sailor, I usually heave to only for short periods, so have not had an issue with chafe. I use heaving-to for lunch breaks and reefing pretty much every time I go out. The forereaching does take some concentration…can’t imagine sailing like that for any long period in heavy weather. 😁⛵️
Describing Heaving To as a “passive technique” for heavy weather or storm survival show a significant misunderstanding of the method, it’s benefits and proper execution. Equating it to Lying Ahull is not helpful, they are in no way comparable.
@@ColoradoSailing you mention using these methods as a storm tactic, heaving to can involve sea anchors, regular checks on progress, chafe avoidance, position monitoring. Lying a hull means sitting and hoping.
@@greglivermore6700 I think he meant that it's passive because you don't need to man the tiller.. Not that it was equivalent to lying ahull, which is basically suicidal when you have other viable options.
Thanks for this food for thought. Why not put up a small storm jib winched in tight to just give a bit of directional stability? My yacht is 33 feet and whist will sail ok by main alone it has less directional control in over 20 kts with no or little head sail out. Best
Yup. Even among the “experts” there is debate within the community about how best to forereach. The articles I cited both say no headsail, but I found others that suggested a “sliver” of headsail or a storm jib. Ultimately, it comes down to: “know your boat.” Every boat has different dynamics and may require some tweaking in the sail plan to achieve the desired effect. 😃⛵️
@@ColoradoSailing completely agree with your comment, try and see is the best approach. Best
I agree with your opinion, a small amount of sail (Storm jib) in the foretriangle together with a deeply reefed main will balance the rig helping to steer the boat upwind and will increase boat speed helping to power through the seas.
I agree with some experience behind it. Forereached through a front in the ocean, decent seas. It made steering a challenge, trying sail to the waves, yet getting rounded up in gusts. A small headsail, trimmed right would have given balance and less struggle for the helm.
Well l tried this, along with heaving too on my clipper ship route from Mazatlan to San Diego. This didn't work at all on my boat as i am a single hander and the last thing ivwant to do is spend hours at the tiller. Heaving to worked, it was an easy motion and you didn't loose a lot of distance but I couldnt figure out how to stop the chafe on the jib sheet.
As I’m a lake sailor, I usually heave to only for short periods, so have not had an issue with chafe. I use heaving-to for lunch breaks and reefing pretty much every time I go out. The forereaching does take some concentration…can’t imagine sailing like that for any long period in heavy weather. 😁⛵️
Describing Heaving To as a “passive technique” for heavy weather or storm survival show a significant misunderstanding of the method, it’s benefits and proper execution. Equating it to Lying Ahull is not helpful, they are in no way comparable.
When heaving to the helm is lashed to windward with the jib back winded. That’s pretty hands off (ie: passive).
@@ColoradoSailing you mention using these methods as a storm tactic, heaving to can involve sea anchors, regular checks on progress, chafe avoidance, position monitoring. Lying a hull means sitting and hoping.
@@greglivermore6700 I think he meant that it's passive because you don't need to man the tiller.. Not that it was equivalent to lying ahull, which is basically suicidal when you have other viable options.