Invasive Mussels and Heidi Sedivy: SciShow Talk Show # 16
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Welcome back to SciShow Talk Show! This week we introduce our guest, Heidi Sedivy who will be talking about invasive mussels as well as Montana native mussels.
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No live animal?
I learn something new every single time, keep up the good works, Hank.
I live in Michigan. We normally don't have too big of a problem with the Great Lakes, but in some smaller unknown lakes these guys are everywhere.
My aunt lives on Whitmore Lake which is covered in zebra mussels. I always had to wear water shoes when I went in the lake as a child so I didn't slice my feet open on them.
This format for Talk Show is MUCH better (y)
I really liked this episode and I hope there will be more of these. Still I really like Animal Wonders and the Stump Hank part, especially with the skulls. Keep up the good work and the diversity of this show!
The whole way through I'm thinking "This is such a great episode" I look down and everyone else is saying the same thing. Thanks for the video Hank, great job!
This was a really unusual, interesting episode! Never knew about these.
Well said. Nothing better than a good comment with some substance@
I keep clicking NOT SPAM on your comment so it will come back. people need to read it! I have been re-reading it for hours and still dont understand fully. You sir may be one of the most brilliant people alive!
You also missed the part where they described what kind of costs they can have in damage to Hydroelectric power plants. Did you watch the whole video?
At Lake Ontario and Michigan nuke plants, we fought these and zebra mussels tooth and nail. Monitoring, cleaning, chemicals in the late 80s early 90s. Not good. Haven't worked plants on the Great Lakes since then so still seems a terrible problem.
'Lake Lady' That's an amazing superhero name.
Yeah! Hanks back :D
Have they tried using a Lotus Leaf structure for turbines and stuff to stop anything sticking to it? (Spheres on spheres on spheres on spheres, ETC. ETC.)
Keep clam and keep the water clean, guys.
O no! Its an animal that arrives at a place and is smart enough to kill the competition! We must prevent it from coming to "our" place by outsmarting it and killing it!
Water you waiting for? They say the brain is your largest mussel.
took me about 6 minutes to figure out what was happening. i think the topic was too alien to me. turned out good by the end.
They also said they all die at the same time so your beach is covered in tiny sharp shells
I live in Escanaba MI, and Lake Michigan is about a 1minute drive, Lake Superior is an hour drive, and Lake Eerie is about 3 hour drive (props to minutephysics for the measuring distance in time) and I want to know if this has anything to do with our zebra mussel problems.
Depends on what you call better.
They could just ban swimming, boating, fishing etc in lakes that provide drinking water. That's what we do in Australia and we have some of the cleanest drinking water in the world.
Farm these buggers for calcium amendment to soil plus whatever else they can feed on for fertilizer.
Yeah that's how Canadians speak... God Bless 'merica!
Go to ThinkGeek and search for "8-Bit Flower Bouquet." It's even on sale right now!
At 2:30 it says EDNA stands for Environmental DNA but Heidi Sedivy says Electronic DNA - which is right?
Google. You'll find all the resources you'll need if you do some research about any large lakes around the nation.
This episode isn't bad, it's just different. That being said, people have the right to not like it. It was very educational, but sometimes things need to have more than just interesting information to be acceptable to the media.
Confession: So... for a moment, like a second, or two, or ten, I thought they were talking about muscles. But English isn't my first language, and I'm a literature student, so don't judge me.
What does she mean when she says "largest lake west of the Mississippi"?
Not a competitive advantage its an absolute advantage :P
I sea what you did there!
I was like...that didn't do anything cool how dumb & then I went down to read the comments again and was like, the hell I swear I read that normal a second ago. WHY IS EVERYONE TALKING LIKE THAT NOW! OMG WAIT AWESOOOOME! shit I didn't know these were things!
Lake Mede looks like Liam.
There was a dead fish animal guest? ;D
just saw some shooting stars :D
Sometimes I pee around the water so I don't make noise.
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Where's the special guest?
did you watch the video? she said they brought in a native fish to kill them off and now the fish is invasive.
If there is an issue with their population than just make it a high price entree at any restaurant. Lobster used to be fed to lower class folks like me just because of by-catch. There has to be some way to collect them and grind them and separate their flesh to make something edible, WTF even cat food. WTF?. We're feeding cats chickens or wild caught fish which we go out of our way to catch or raise and then we have these invasive species that no one's thought of a good use for? A little subsidy for removing them along with the totally free protein might have people lined up to collect them and free our waterways. Give people a good monetary reason to collect them. We will do it. Humans and our pursuit of money is the greatest force in action on the planet that we have direct control over. Use it.
This was a great episode. I love that you got rid of the awkward, forced sort of segments and went with something more natural that allowed your guest to really show off her expertise and teach us something. More like this, please!
This was really informative! Being from the Great Lakes part of the country, I am very aware of the invasive mussel problem.
Why is there no visitor from Animal Wonders? Incredible show btw =)
This is a suggestion why don’t you make a video about the nerdy and quirky theories on RUclips?
There are many theories on RUclips that are not part of the mainstream of science it would be nice to know what you think of them as part of mainstream science!
Could be interesting!
I feel like taking those tubes covered in mussels and smash it on the ground... am I crazy?
Nope.
As a midwesterner, I always assumed everyone's beach was shitty and painful.
Lived maybe 10 minutes from the water and never went. Wasn't worth it.
At least before I grew up and saw more beaches.
Can humans eat this? I'd like to see these eaten to extinction. If people pay to eat buttered rubbery snails, then they'll pay to eat something for the environment. I feel like creativity is often the only barrier to making a food palatable, and these seem to be excessively abundant. Or perhaps they can be used for bait.
Animal wonders! I want them back!
Who said anything about blowing ourselves off the map? We can't fix the planet. I'm not trying to be gloomy just realistic. Mother nature has a balance and we screw that up, big time. We are massively overpopulated and keep growing. The only question is "how fast will we destroy the planet?" You can only take for so long without consequences. It's a moral lesson we teach our kids, "better to give than to receive", yet when it comes to Earth? You might think it's depressing, but it's true
True and but invasive species are a major problem. Snakeheads are violents and eat other fish even if they're not hungry, Pacu fish became carnivores and started eating other fish since they could grow bigger, Spanish Moss covers trees completely, Emerald Ash borers can kill Ash Trees quite easily given the time,Giant African Snails destroy native plants and crops, Africanized Honey bees kill humans. The list goes on.
Get this.... its gonna be a shock so hang on....My motivation was to inform James that "there is nothing wrong with Trolling!"
It is the second sentence i wrote.
See, your conclusion was based on a large number of assumptions about me, all of which i am sure are wrong. Drawing conclusions from assumptions, or stuff you made up, is what people call 'stupid'.
for example your last sentence is so packed with assumptions, I dont even know where to begin!
Uh, did you say these things come from the Caspian Sea and some other surrounded sea (I think) and you explained a lot why these things can bring damage to the local ecosystems and economy. But you haven't touched at how the people in the places these things come from deal with this problem! Did they simply give up on building hydroelectric power-plants there, and accept their stuff will eventually by full of these creatures? Did they just live a shittier life or did they found solutions?
I have lived on the shore of Lake Huron in Michigan for the last 35 years. 30 years ago the beaches here were packed with people. I lived right on the beach next to a park with a 100m long pier. As a child we used to climb up the sides of it and dive off. I still remember my first encounter with a zebra mussel 23 years ago. Climbing the pier I cut my foot open and upon closer inspection found a zebra mussel there. Since then they totally changed this ecosystem and the beaches are no longer safe.
Lake Michigan is the closest lake to me, and where I spend 99% of my lake activities.
I don't know if it's scientifically a problem, but stepping on them all the time makes it a personal problem to me!
I'm guessing that because we're talking about lake Mead here, and not the Great Lakes, that there must not be a problem.
The Wiki on the lake talks about an introduced trout that causes a lot of problems so it's not "clean." The lake may indeed have fewer problems that most other major bodies of water and may have avoided - so far - the scourge of this particular mussel. No matter. Introduced plant, animal, and other species are a HUGE problem around the world. Thanks for discussing it.
you would think you would just use layers of ever thinner filters rotating that are below the water level so you can just use the pressure of the water to push it though the filters and rotate the filters and generate a little of the electricity.
And why they would be rotating is so that they can be cleaned constantly.
This episode provided a lot of good information about a problem facing most states, as well as many countries in the world - invasive species. Just because there were no fluffy animals should not take away from the lessons Hank and Heidi shared with us.
It's a multi-billion dollar problem that people need to hear about.
Tangent - Hank, though I am sure you are profoundly busy, if you are interested, I would love to get you and a camera person to the HiveBio open house this Saturday. Citizen scientist space about to open in Seattle. Let me know if you are interested.
(hivebio.org)
my goodness! You're a depressing one! Jeez, You know us not being here or blowing ourselves off the map won't help right? The point if that we fix our mistakes and avoid future ones. It's tough but it's how the world works. Being gloomy won't help. There are plenty of things you can do to help.
Flathead is not the largest lake west of the Mississippi. It's not even close. The Great Salt Lake is (and it's not even that far away from Flat Head) at more than 10x the size. I have no idea where she got that notion. I'm not even sure it's the largest freshwater lake west of the Mississippi.
I'm so glad for underground aquifers. They're much more resistant to stuff like invasive mussel species, since its not easy for them to get down there. Also, I should probably just google this but I like the answers from Nerdfighters more, is there an ecosystem in the Ogallala Aquifer?
To be fair, I didn't quite get the context of this video until Hank mentioned "invasive species" about 3:20 into the vid, either. At first I just thought it was about this particular species of mussels.
Which would have been just fine, don't get me wrong. But this was still an interesting video.
Live animal or not, I loved this episode (as I love them all), and a new scishow episode is one of my favorite parts of my day. That being said, I would like to see an episode sometime about the flip of the magnetic field of our sun as we near the apex of the approximate 11 year solar weather cycle.
Am I the only one disappointed with how many people are disappointed with this episode? Has Hank inspired no one enough to be interested in science for its own sake and not just the entertainment value of the fuzzy animals?
Yes, this episode has a very different format from the norm, get over it.
I thought it was very interesting, and a bit alarming. I'm familiar with zebra muscles and what they're doing to some of the locks along the Erie Canal, but I was not familiar with these Quagga mussels. I hope Flathead Lake stays Quagga free for as long as possible.
Thank you for this video! It just goes to show that everyone has to do their part to keep the Earth in working order. It's scary to think that just a single person wearing a life jacket, or going out boating can hurt an entire lakes ecosystem.
GUYS. For Pete'scsakes! This episode by far was WAAAAAAY more informative then any other. You don't learn about things that could possibly screw up whole ecosystems by gushing over animals. My gosh sit back and LEARN SOME IMPORTANT STUFF.
Hank: (majestic background music) The Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water signifying by Divine Providence that I, Hank, was to do a SciShow Talk Show. That is why I am your host!
So, all I hear is. With a small time investment and a few vials of these things. You could go around the US to all of the major lakes and spread these muscles around. Nobody would notice until you were long gone and it would be an ecological catastrophe.
I can't remember exactly where they said it, but these mussels clamp onto anything to grow, including other mussels, plants, and other animals including lobsters (the showed a picture of a lobster covered in mussels), so they basically starve other species.
Big Bear Lake here in California has very strict inspections for boat launches... then again, it's just one (smallish) lake, with limited access points. I can only imagine a more rural area such as Flathead in Montana.
*Fingers Crossed*
Interesting, but I missed Animal Wonders too. I now want to know about the health of other lakes and stuff around the nation, particularly those that feed my drinking water one way or another. How do I find out?
Is Heidi Sedivy related to Lindsey Doe? I opened this video in a tab that I wasn't looking at and was almost convinced that it was sexplanations; they seem to have very similar quirks in speaking. Totally off base? Maybe?
Sci show is about being informed about science in a fun and interesting way. If one cannot stand an episode with out animals or that does not follow the standard format, than one should either be silent or unsubscribe. Thank you
It always baffles me when someone say they can't drink the water in their own sink, it almost makes it obsolete. I hope you keep the lake clean, but it sounds like a very demanding and tough job considering its spread so fast!
Science about Earth and it's animals is cool and all... but I would also like if you could find some space/physics/medical/other types of science peeps to come and talk. Maybe I've missed them?
most of us realize this now. some of us really care. and even less are doing something about it. unfortunately in such an intricate system as our ecology, fixing one thing breaks another nearly always.
Huge competitive advantage? They will win. Perhaps it's best not to fight it. They will just replace the existing forms, and things will return to an equilibrium. It's going to happen anyway.
WHERE WAS THIS 2 WEEKS AGO WHEN I HAD TO WRITE A PAPER ON THE ROUND GODY?!?!?!!?!?!? :( now i feel stupid because i was led to believe that the round goby came to the Great Lakes by ballast tanks.
I feel like Hank already knows most of what he's asking...proof he's really audience-oriented. Talk show episodes really show case how much Hank cares about Nerfighteria learning and understanding.
I read somewhere that the freshwater drum, or sheephead, will eat zebra mussels up to 2.5cm long. Zebra mussels are not a huge part of their diet, but they eat them. Perhaps they'd eat these ones.
According to wiki pages, Flathead Lake is the largest (natural) freshwater lake West of the Mississippi River... just slightly larger than Tahoe. Although Tahoe is vastly cleaner/fresher.
No but fish love them if you crush them up. I would know because that's how I feed the sunfish around my dad's friend's house. Just scrap them off a rock, crush them up and throw them in.
heating all that water would produce a big carbon footprint, and after making a dam (that is so destructive and expensive) we are no gonna stop using it
that is why THORIUM !
Besides, Jessie probably has, idk, a LIFE to get on with maybe? She probably can't appear on every SciShow Talk Show, no matter whether it's her free time, or they pay her for it.
Really excellent episode. I have some backpackers in the family that have traveled to Flathead lake and took a lot of interest in the mussel issues. Fascinating stuff. Thank you, Heidi!
I like guests like this. Reminds me of a satellite radio show I stumbled upon in a rental car late at night which had a random scientist talk about his field and new things in it.
Flathead is the largest FRESH water lake west of the Miss. R. (Apparently there are a couple of others that would be contenders, but they are considered to be NORTH of the Miss. R.)
Best episode of SciShow Talk Show so far! The guest, the theme and the amount of time and attention you gave it worked really well. Thanks for trying something new with the format.
i like to draw pictures of boats on my hand and stop at the boat inspection places here in libby when they say they are looking for mussels i flex and say heres some XD
Oh yeah, now to watch the actual show...As much as I do so love Jessi it's great to see new and interesting guest! Also have I mentioned how much I love the new set?
Before I start talking about the actual topic I will kindly ask you to subscribe.. then again twice more in the same video
Oh (2nd reply!) they are also filter eaters, so they gobble up all the phytoplankton which is an integral part of any body of water's eco system and food chain.
Why not find an industrial use for their shells/meat? Have the government give whatever company is willing to find a use for these creatures a tax break.
Scary but fascinating, maybe you could do whole SciShow episode about such invasive species and what consequences their invasions have had in the past?
Hey, any chance you could do a honey badger on the talk show? If it isn't too difficult. I know it won't give a shit, but it would be really cool.
We should get Jean Claude Van Damme (I murdered his name) to take care of it. *this Is just a jest at something that is way more important stupid puns*
I really enjoyed the topic of this episode. Please post more interviews.
I prefer this background. The black background is not a great visual.