Thank you Shane for another great review. I think the 0-24 outer track is for the GMT hand to follow as it indicates the 24 hours per revolution. The 13-24 inner track is for the 12 hour hand to show the PM hours of a 24 hour day.
@8:00 The outer 24-hour track doesn't duplicate the inner track. That's obvious at a glance. The GMT hand has to travel at half the speed of the hour hand so they need two different scales.
I‘ve never had any issues with Seiko hardlex. My SKX013, which I‘ve been wearing for many years, has zero scratches on the crystal. Don‘t know about a domed one though.
My daughter scratched/chipped the domed hardlex on her Presage. It must have been a hard knock and I suspect sapphire may have shattered. The good news is, I managed to polish it out completely with diamond paste and cerium oxide 👍
O13 is my all time favorite watches. Had mine since 2018 and unfortunately my crystal is chipped. I have multiple Rolex watches and the skx013 is #1 for me personally by a long shot. My only regret is not buying 2 of them 😢
Love mine I have the deploy also. I’ve gotten many compliments and questions about it. Even came with a hand made origami with a hand written note from the Japanese shop I ordered from thanking me for my order❤
Just got mine today in Norway. Looks even better in person. Aside from the clasp the bracelet is pretty good, but you could probably replace the clasp anyway. I have a pretty slender wrist but the watch doesn´t look large.
Now as much as we all like a milled clasp. Especially since it's more for your money. I have to admit that pressed is often slimmer, and sometimes wears better.
Great review Shane, handsome watch. I am confused by your point on the inner digits and bezel being redundant. As the inner digits 13 - 24 are 24hour "military" hour (PM) markers and the bezel has the 1-24 digits GMT hour markers for the GMT hand that goes around only once in a day. I agree that this complicates reading the watch quickly and the overall design but for me it makes the GMT feature much easier to use.
I went to see a local Rolex AD the other day. I told him I am in the market for a couple of elegant watches, like a few GS Spring drive models or a Rolex Day-Date in yellow gold with the presidential bracelet, obviously. I told him I know the Rolex 'waiting list' is probably just a lie, so I would buy the GS models right away and I would put him, the Rolex AD, on my waiting list. It probably would take a few years before he would see the color of my money, if ever. Anyone can play that game.
This is the first Seiko to pique my interest since the Pospex Alpinist Deep Lake I picked up a couple of years ago. I'm not bothered about hardlex as I don't scratch my watches, and this makes more sense than the Chinese Rolex homages.
Never scratched a hardlex, even when used as a dive backup. This is now available in Turkey and I ordered the black dial yesterday. I was procrastinating between it and the white one, when simultaneously I got an Ali Express deal for the new version NH34 Corgeut explorer homage with coins, and 2 store discounts for $62 !! İronically it has a sapphire crystal, fully solid bracelet and even glide lock adjustment! It scratched the itch for a white dial! Though I don't expect it to be perfect, for that price I couldn't pass it up !
I think it's arriving in Germany today, maybe has by now ! You'll be happy with the Corgeut. I received the 3002-2 version a week ago and the quality is very good. Nice bracelet too. There's a lottery with the case back though. You might get a display case back or a solid if you don't specifically ask. I got the solid one as the NH34 won't win any beauty contests. Everything lined up perfectly including the GMT hand. The crown is nice and smooth. The lume isn't Seiko level but it's better than a lot of Chinese brands. You also got a great deal, I paid €75 !
@@bbwt9991 Great ! Mine is the same version. Not due to arrive until March 14th or thereabouts but I feel more confident now. I never specified the caseback but whatever it is will be ok for me. You'll like the Seiko I think. 👍👍
Great review and fantastic watch, mine arrived yesterday and it's an excellent addition to my small collection. My first GMT as well. Who is the maker of the black strap with the orange stitching shown @ 4:50 - 5:04, I need that.
Nice looking design. Years ago I would troll Seiko 5 Finder and other sites and then go looking on eBay. Some of those older models are truly excellent and I do like the old 37mm cases. Although my collecting activity slowed, I still "maximize" certain checkboxes as appreciation. Never bought a Turtle but got the Land Tortoise ... still love the design, it's smaller and mine was on sale. Insane value, along with their totally random use of sapphire for it. Some of my favorite watches have acrylic crystals. You might say I prefer that ... NOTHING is as glare-free as a (scratch-free) acrylic crystal. My first GMT was also my first batman and Timex Q ... everything I own seems to be a cliche of some other reference LOL. It gets worse. I like lightweight watches for being lightweight and the heavy ones for being heavy. My Lunar Pilot needs a battery, because of course it does; the 262kH movement is a hungry beast.
Recently pricing of seiko watches are absurdly higher. Seiko watches were used to be like,when we purchased one,we used to feel its worth every penny that we spend. Now these are expensive. Its very unfortunate.
Thanks for the great review as always. This may be my current favorite affordable Seiko. I think you can already get it for a discount if you look around. Thanks again!
If there is an aftermarket crystal that fits, yeah you can. Happens a lot, and Mark from Long Island watch sells a lot of sapphire for other seiko's. I'm just not sure if there's one for this one yet.
I have a Seiko five and my one big beef with it is the inability to manual wind the watch, so unless you wear it all the time it stops and then you have to reset time and date and it becomes a pain.
I actually need the day complication because I often forget what day it is. In fact the gmt is not as useful as i don’t travel very much if not at all. To each their own 😀
There is one I know of that just started. Organized through the website / app watchcrunch. I think they had their first meeting at the beginning of this month, and will have their second next Friday. Somewhere in Carrolton.
That looks like my Grand Seiko sbga471. I think I had just got it off ebay when I filmed this. Was my Christmas present to myself after running the channel for so long. Cheers!
There's definitely a market for this watch. The inside 24 hour numbers are to track 24 hour time using the hour hand, and the outer bezel track is for the GMT hand.
I think this model is actually SBSC011 which is the JDM model. Its numerals are actually white, and actual SSK023K (international model) have a slight greenish tint (which I think doesn't look as nice). The sizing of the fonts as well seems a little different. I also have seen the SSK023K shipped with a sticker that says 'Movement in Malaysia and Made in China' - would this be of a lesser value, compared to a JDM model?
Well, this one is from Japan originally. I didn't know there was any difference with the international model. Strange, usually there isn't. I'll have to look into that more. As for it being worth more, yes usually the JDM models are. Which was the whole J vs K model debate. Usually, they are pretty much the same, but collectors always prefer the J / JDM versions. So prices are always a little more. But again, functionally they are the same. (Or at least usually are).
I purchased the black version but quickly returned it because it was far too thick and the lugs don’t really curve much, making the watch somewhat unwearable for my tastes (7 inch wrist). It was solid and looked nice.
Sure. Most in that price range will be from good microbrands that will use the same movement For example check out the RZE ascentus. One of my favorites in that price range. Full titanium. ruclips.net/video/H-ZLjDoHJ5A/видео.html Although are you looking for something that's more like a dive watch. That has a rotating bezel. Or more of one like this video, where it's steel and fixed? Another place to look is some of the Chinese AliExpress brands. If your ok with less original designs you can find some for $200-$350. Again with the same movement but with a sapphire crystal. In general id recommend San Martin over any of the other brands. Just be a little cautious when watching some other channels that focus only on AliExpress watches. Some of them don't spend a lot of time with the watches and are more just trying to get affiliate sales.
From a quality standpoint.... Absolutely! However the design is a bit different. This one is more explorer 2. So more of a field / tool watch GMT. Whereas the wise is a bit more flashy with its 904l steel and is more of a dive style GMT.
I've seen so many watch reviewers make the same mistaken criticism regarding the 24 hour time scale on the dial. You can make an argument to leave it off to make the dial less busy, but you can't make the argument to leave it off because it's redundant since there is a 24 hour scale on the bezel. The 24-hour scale on the dial is military time aligned with the regular hands. The 24-hour scale on the bezel is GMT (Greenwich Mean Time) and aligned to the GMT hand. That's why at, say, 10 o'clock, the 24-hour time on the dial is 22 for 22:00 military time, but on the 24-hour GMT time scale on the bezel it's 20, which would be 8 o'clock. If your GMT time was actually 10'oclock, the GMT hand would be at 11/23 on the dial scale. Could all of you watch reviewers please get together and figure this out.
I got the fact that it's a 24 hour scale for the hour hand. My thought process was more along the lines of if you really need it. Considering you could just use the GMT hand to see military time anyway. Since if you are traveling the GMT hand should be set to wherever you are at. However in retrospect that argument falls completely apart if you're using it to track a 2nd time zone you are not in, and you still want to know military time locally. So yeah, not completely redundant. However, I still think it would be a cleaner overall design without it.
Right. Since most people use the dial markers for the time zone they are in and the GMT for another time zone they want to keep track of, the 12 and 24 hour dial scale is for use where you are. Doesn’t bother me at all on a field watch but if it did, I’d just buy a different GMT watch. People seem to want every watch to be made exactly for their tastes and I find criticisms based on that kind of daft. It’s different, however, if you just say it’s not my taste.
Held one a few weeks ago at my local Seiko/Grand Seiko AD here in Canada. I was hoping to love this model, macros in videos all looked spectacular from the raised indices and textured dial. In hand feel is where it all fell apart, the case finishing felt poor, almost sharp in comparison to an SNK809 and you still have a jangly bracelet. The matte black dial is almost too flat or too grey. I really wish they would have had the white dial on display but I guess we may never see it. Knock off with regional releases Seiko, we're all tired of it, same for the never ending limited editions. One point to Seiko, they brushed this bezel from the center outward where as Grand Seiko keeps ruining most if their watches with a vertical pattern.
Fair enough and the screw down is a must for me aside from the bezel. It is tempting to have as a poor man . 20 th piece of this poor man’s watch and counting.
May I be so bold, the Japanese like to keep tradition, for the inner 24 hour ring furthermore, if they did remove it guest that many would criticise as it is too similar to an Explorer 2
Great review, it is a good looking watch, however, I agree the Japanese have kept the best to themselves, the white dial is a stunner. The only complaint I have is the thickness, it is probably due to the display back as I have an nh34 San Martin with 100m WR that is only 12.5mm thick.
I've been the outcast in every review of this, saying that the design is a big miss, seems more rushed to fill the gap in this line with a GMT, rather than a well thought one. What's really bad thought, are the hands, kind like a match of existing (field "5") and some left overs (GMT hand comes from old divers, second hand is totally off at proportions, as all are!). Then the bracelet. Is it a tease to Explore's fans? "Hey look! Kind of Jubilee... something Rolex will never give you"?!! I'm not a fan of the Explorer anyway, honestly though, i expected something more from Seiko here. I'll end saying it's a homerun indeed, but at their own field (pun intended!), not the other (winning) side...
Great review. Watch is way to cluttered and the jubilee (which I normally like) makes it even busier. Looked better on straps. Would still love to see you review something more up market (not exclusively) You are so much better at reviews than the guys that do that segment.
I think the silver markers are ment for military time keeping of the home time and the bezel marking are for the the gmt hand so not really redundant like you videos as always
Unless the military in question has suffered a cerebral stroke (or is American), he already knows that e.g. 2 in the afternoon is 14. Just like every civilian over pre-school age (who hasn't suffered a stroke or is American) does.
I get what you're saying. Always bugs me when I hear a luxury watch referred to as "entry level", but it really just means entry into something specific. In this case, talking more GMTs. Now terms like "affordable", "mid-range", and "luxury", can be more specific. And here, $450-$500 is the top end of what I consider to be affordable. When I started the channel 5 years ago and you were to ask me that I would of said the top end was around $350. But price jumps and inflation over the last few years have sucked.
@@RelativeTime true it’s just often looked over in these reviews and I would like to hear more about it. Has drill developed a better oring system for the push pull waterproofing on the crown? Just a summary of how fail safe it is.
@@bgieho Well from what I've heard the screw down part doesn't actually add much to the water resistance. It's a common misconception. Most of the WR is coming from the O-ring / Seals. The screwdown crown is more to prevent you from accidentally pulling it out, or fiddling with it while underwater. Which can cause and issue. Which is why there are a fair amount of 100m watches out there without a screwdown crown.
@@RelativeTime I am not a designer ( I'm an electro mechanical maintenance tech at a children's hospital ) here in America ... in Cuba I went 4 years to college to study design, my late dad was a master watchmaker so I haven't been disconnected from design, nor watchmaking so leaving all that info behind and focusing on the subject : The hands are wrong, they probably borrowed them from a Citizen Scuba Fin Eco drive, the inner track is redundant and unnecessary, the GMT hand is good for a dive watch, not for this one and the logo is the most tasteless logo in history, it literally looks designed by a liberal Gen Z protestor who hates watches and loves smart watches, the bracelet ( in typical Seiko fashion ) feels cheap and crude, it feels like a field watch and pilot's watch got drunk and made a baby, the watch looks like an afterthought, something done in a hurry to fill a gap .... something in what Seiko is loosing a lot of customers therefore money is in not making a quartz or solar version .... if that watch were a car, it would be the new Honda Type R. To describe the watch with a word, the word would be : Frustrating. Your channel, on the other hand .... amazing; I follow it devotedly. Thanks .
Seiko are promoted by youtube influencers... So there watch' are over hyped!! Most of the money goes to marketers. I have seen better watch with swatch group
I would say they are covered, not promoted. As far as I know, Seiko isn't sponsoring anyone here on RUclips. Regardless, they are covered a lot because there is a lot of interest in their watches. I get far more views from Seiko videos than I do from almost any other brand. That said, which swatch group watch do you think does it better for the same or less?
After reading this I noticed this SSK023K model seems to be the one watch that many watch enthusiasts /influencers have covered and feature in a video. It's by far the most popular in recent times. Any idea as to why that is the case?
@@fungorillaDo you mean in terms of Seiko 5 Field GMTs? Or just Seiko reviews recently? With regard to the Seiko 5 Fields specifically, there were only 3 models released, and one of those was a JDM. So out of the remaining two, this is the most normal, and the one most people would be interested in seeing. Out of all the more recent Seikos. Well the Field GMTS are most interesting out of the more affordable recent Seiko 5 releases. I know there have been a lot of GMTS released recently, but you got to also remember that 4 years ago the idea of a Seiko GMT for $400 was crazy talk.
@@RelativeTime this model in particular has got a lot more reviews than any other watches on RUclips. It has only been released a couple of months since its release, and there are tonnes of content about it. I guess as you say there is much interest and it being priced more affordably makes it a more attractive proposition.
@@fungorillaIt was also released in Japan a few months earlier than internationally too. So they were available online if you knew about it and where to look. In fact Dave (Just the Watch) whos in Japan, told me when he ordered one and I asked if he would get me and ship it to me. So I was working under the impression I had a lead over everyone and could take my time getting it out. But about a week after I got it, the reviews were already starting to come out. Because one of the problems with a lot of reviewers these days (at leat as I see it) is that many don't spend a lot of time with the watches before making a review. Some turn the camera on as soon as they get it and ramble whatever comes to mind. One of my biggest pet peeves is when I see a review where the bracelet isn't even sized. They just hold it up to their wrist. The thing about Seiko videos, is they get views. Even though most of us know there are better priced and better speced watches out there, a Seiko video will typically far outperform any of those. As much as we complain about them, people are always interested in Seiko. For example, the last NH34 GMT I covered before this was the Phobois Wavemaster GMT. It got about 8k views, which is pretty good. Most microbrands these days get around 3-4k. But this Seiko's got 43k views, and that's with all the competition.
I’ve been wearing Seiko’s for over 35 years. Simply fantastic watches for the price.
Thanks for sharing.
There’s no such thing as a fantastic Seiko for the price. They’re all way too expensive in relation to all the problems they have.
Thank you Shane for another great review. I think the 0-24 outer track is for the GMT hand to follow as it indicates the 24 hours per revolution. The 13-24 inner track is for the 12 hour hand to show the PM hours of a 24 hour day.
@8:00 The outer 24-hour track doesn't duplicate the inner track. That's obvious at a glance. The GMT hand has to travel at half the speed of the hour hand so they need two different scales.
Why half speed?
@@MrObiwan1because 24h is double the 12h, so the 24h hand must go just 1 rotation per 24h, while regular 12h hand does it twice.
@@wallyllaw makes complete sense now you’ve explained it. Thanks :)
I‘ve never had any issues with Seiko hardlex. My SKX013, which I‘ve been wearing for many years, has zero scratches on the crystal. Don‘t know about a domed one though.
My daughter scratched/chipped the domed hardlex on her Presage. It must have been a hard knock and I suspect sapphire may have shattered. The good news is, I managed to polish it out completely with diamond paste and cerium oxide 👍
I’ve never had a problem with hardlex either. I’m not rough on my watches at all, but still haven’t scratched a hardlex
O13 is my all time favorite watches. Had mine since 2018 and unfortunately my crystal is chipped. I have multiple Rolex watches and the skx013 is #1 for me personally by a long shot. My only regret is not buying 2 of them 😢
Nice looking Seiko but an even better review. Your photography is always top notch but this time somehow really pops. Awesome!
I love this channel because of THE voice and the artistic vibes. The watch itself comes secondary. I can hate the watch and still love every video.
Love mine I have the deploy also. I’ve gotten many compliments and questions about it. Even came with a hand made origami with a hand written note from the Japanese shop I ordered from thanking me for my order❤
I got a cleaning cloth with mine ,
JDM white dial .
Great review. Gotta get one. I don’t have a GMT yet and it looks great. Thanks, Shane.
Your review and voice sounds like I was listening to a smooth pimp tell a bedtime story. Straight butter. Loved it!
LOL Thanks!
Beautiful. Seiko is one of my favorite watch companies.
I was able to get the white dial JDM version for way under MSRP. Now it costs $100 more than MSRP. Never bought a watch that appreciated that fast.
Got dang the white one looks amazing!
I just picked up the same SEIKO 5 SBSC009 Field Sports GMT white dial.
Yes except for them shiny hour markers i hope i can get past it
The strap at 7:45 looks great with this watch! I'm a strap junkie and i can't stop it!
Same here mate 😅Where can I find that beautiful stripe?
Just purchased. Great watch all things considered. And I personally love the “busy” dial. It’s interesting.
Seiko killed it on this one.
Just got mine today in Norway. Looks even better in person. Aside from the clasp the bracelet is pretty good, but you could probably replace the clasp anyway. I have a pretty slender wrist but the watch doesn´t look large.
Now as much as we all like a milled clasp. Especially since it's more for your money. I have to admit that pressed is often slimmer, and sometimes wears better.
Great review Shane, handsome watch. I am confused by your point on the inner digits and bezel being redundant. As the inner digits 13 - 24 are 24hour "military" hour (PM) markers and the bezel has the 1-24 digits GMT hour markers for the GMT hand that goes around only once in a day. I agree that this complicates reading the watch quickly and the overall design but for me it makes the GMT feature much easier to use.
I went to see a local Rolex AD the other day. I told him I am in the market for a couple of elegant watches, like a few GS Spring drive models or a Rolex Day-Date in yellow gold with the presidential bracelet, obviously. I told him I know the Rolex 'waiting list' is probably just a lie, so I would buy the GS models right away and I would put him, the Rolex AD, on my waiting list. It probably would take a few years before he would see the color of my money, if ever. Anyone can play that game.
Thanks for sharing. Black dial is more beautiful than white dial.
Great review as always. Really a shame that the Polaris version will be a JDM model only…😢
I just picked up the JDM SEIKO 5 SBSC009 Field Sports GMT white dial.
Very cool. DId you have a hard time finding the white one?
I would have loved this watch if the raised indices and the printed numerals also had Lume.
It’s a seiko 5
You won’t get all that what you’re after.
Not even Rolex going to give you that.
I know micro brands do.
I'm in love with the bracelet.
Awesome shot and awesome review, thanks for giving us a good look at it
Thanks!
A real shame the Arabic numerals weren’t lumed
Thorough, interesting, and spot on. Good job, Shane!
Great looking watch! Would love to see this with a blue dial, unless it’s already out and I missed it.
Awesome review. Subbed. Out to the local AD on vacation to see about picking one up tomorrow 👍
Thanks. Did you find one?
6:10 what is the watch shinning with lume at the back? Is it a hyper g?
Yeah I think it is. It's been a while, but thats what it looks like and I did ge the green one.
@@RelativeTime Thanks
This is the first Seiko to pique my interest since the Pospex Alpinist Deep Lake I picked up a couple of years ago. I'm not
bothered about hardlex as I don't scratch my watches, and this makes more sense than the Chinese Rolex homages.
It's very nice. Waiting for it to arrive in the retail store in Stuttgart and will get the white dial one.
The white one is only sold in Japan
Never scratched a hardlex, even when used as a dive backup. This is now available in Turkey and I ordered the black dial yesterday. I was procrastinating between it and the white one, when simultaneously I got an Ali Express deal for the new version NH34 Corgeut explorer homage with coins, and 2 store discounts for $62 !! İronically it has a sapphire crystal, fully solid bracelet and even glide lock adjustment! It scratched the itch for a white dial! Though I don't expect it to be perfect, for that price I couldn't pass it up !
I think it's arriving in Germany today, maybe has by now ! You'll be happy with the Corgeut. I received the 3002-2 version a week ago and the quality is very good. Nice bracelet too. There's a lottery with the case back though. You might get a display case back or a solid if you don't specifically ask. I got the solid one as the NH34 won't win any beauty contests. Everything lined up perfectly including the GMT hand. The crown is nice and smooth. The lume isn't Seiko level but it's better than a lot of Chinese brands. You also got a great deal, I paid €75 !
@@bbwt9991 Great ! Mine is the same version. Not due to arrive until March 14th or thereabouts but I feel more confident now. I never specified the caseback but whatever it is will be ok for me. You'll like the Seiko I think. 👍👍
So very hard to believe no scratches. It so rare. Maybe u the lucky one.
I like the look, but agree it's a tad busy and probably on the small side for my 7.6" wrist.
Great review and fantastic watch, mine arrived yesterday and it's an excellent addition to my small collection. My first GMT as well. Who is the maker of the black strap with the orange stitching shown @ 4:50 - 5:04, I need that.
Thanks! Ritche straps. You can usually find them on amazon. geni.us/4N3iMK7
3:55 what watch is on the left just curious
That would be the Zelos Eagle II. Love that watch. The blue of the dial is insane.
ruclips.net/video/NLxJH2_41BU/видео.html
Nice looking design. Years ago I would troll Seiko 5 Finder and other sites and then go looking on eBay. Some of those older models are truly excellent and I do like the old 37mm cases.
Although my collecting activity slowed, I still "maximize" certain checkboxes as appreciation. Never bought a Turtle but got the Land Tortoise ... still love the design, it's smaller and mine was on sale. Insane value, along with their totally random use of sapphire for it. Some of my favorite watches have acrylic crystals. You might say I prefer that ... NOTHING is as glare-free as a (scratch-free) acrylic crystal.
My first GMT was also my first batman and Timex Q ... everything I own seems to be a cliche of some other reference LOL. It gets worse. I like lightweight watches for being lightweight and the heavy ones for being heavy. My Lunar Pilot needs a battery, because of course it does; the 262kH movement is a hungry beast.
white one looks great!
What's that watch you have close to the Seiko at 3:47? It looks good
That is the Zelos Eagle 2. Killer unusal pilots watch. A bit more then the Seiko, though.
ruclips.net/video/NLxJH2_41BU/видео.html
I got the stealth Black
What is the brand of the black fabric ban with orange stitching? Good video.
I got mine for 301 at Macy's. Cute girl gave 3 discounts.
Recently pricing of seiko watches are absurdly higher. Seiko watches were used to be like,when we purchased one,we used to feel its worth every penny that we spend. Now these are expensive. Its very unfortunate.
Bought this in Australia a couple of months ago
What a great watch! Wish we could get the polar white here in the U.S.
The inner track is military time.
Outer track is GMT. 🙂
Thanks for the great review as always. This may be my current favorite affordable Seiko. I think you can already get it for a discount if you look around. Thanks again!
I know this is a dumb question but could I send this watch into a jeweler to have them put in a sapphire crystal?
If there is an aftermarket crystal that fits, yeah you can. Happens a lot, and Mark from Long Island watch sells a lot of sapphire for other seiko's. I'm just not sure if there's one for this one yet.
White Dial is available in which country do you have any idea Sir?
Last I heard it was Japan. But don't know anymore
I have a Seiko five and my one big beef with it is the inability to manual wind the watch, so unless you wear it all the time it stops and then you have to reset time and date and it becomes a pain.
Those were the older Seiko 5s. The new ones all have the 4r movements that have hand winding.
Glad to see a Seiko 5 with only a date complication. I've never understood why anyone would need a day complication, unless you live in a submarine.
I actually need the day complication because I often forget what day it is. In fact the gmt is not as useful as i don’t travel very much if not at all. To each their own 😀
@@edcfyau. I’ve retired so yah quite often forget the day.
Seiko is "the poor man's James Bond" watch worn by Roger Moore as Agent 007!
Are there a dfw watch clubs or meetups?
I enjoy watches with histories and meanings, agnostic to prices or brands.
Thank you ahead of time
There is one I know of that just started. Organized through the website / app watchcrunch. I think they had their first meeting at the beginning of this month, and will have their second next Friday. Somewhere in Carrolton.
very good! By the way, please let me know what watch you are wearing, thanks!
That looks like my Grand Seiko sbga471. I think I had just got it off ebay when I filmed this. Was my Christmas present to myself after running the channel for so long. Cheers!
There's definitely a market for this watch. The inside 24 hour numbers are to track 24 hour time using the hour hand, and the outer bezel track is for the GMT hand.
I missed if the bezel can rotate, but if yes, you can actually use the inside 24h numbers or the bezel to track a third time zone.
No it can't rotate. This one is more like an Explorer 2 with a fixed steel bezel.
I think this model is actually SBSC011 which is the JDM model. Its numerals are actually white, and actual SSK023K (international model) have a slight greenish tint (which I think doesn't look as nice). The sizing of the fonts as well seems a little different. I also have seen the SSK023K shipped with a sticker that says 'Movement in Malaysia and Made in China' - would this be of a lesser value, compared to a JDM model?
Well, this one is from Japan originally. I didn't know there was any difference with the international model. Strange, usually there isn't. I'll have to look into that more.
As for it being worth more, yes usually the JDM models are. Which was the whole J vs K model debate. Usually, they are pretty much the same, but collectors always prefer the J / JDM versions. So prices are always a little more. But again, functionally they are the same. (Or at least usually are).
@@RelativeTime what are your thoughts about getting this watch as a first automatic watch? Good choice to start with?
I think so. Some people don't like GMTS, but I think it makes a watch more intersting and useful.
Maybe not the best value, but It does look good on that sailcloth strap! Regards
I purchased the black version but quickly returned it because it was far too thick and the lugs don’t really curve much, making the watch somewhat unwearable for my tastes (7 inch wrist). It was solid and looked nice.
If the white dial version would be FULLY LUMED on the dial - that would be awesome! ❤😮 or at least the numerals...
I'm a new one to buy watch pls guide me is there any other gmt watches for better buying than ssk003 in Seiko? Price around 400 - 500 thanks 🙏
Sure. Most in that price range will be from good microbrands that will use the same movement
For example check out the RZE ascentus. One of my favorites in that price range. Full titanium.
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Although are you looking for something that's more like a dive watch. That has a rotating bezel. Or more of one like this video, where it's steel and fixed?
Another place to look is some of the Chinese AliExpress brands. If your ok with less original designs you can find some for $200-$350. Again with the same movement but with a sapphire crystal. In general id recommend San Martin over any of the other brands.
Just be a little cautious when watching some other channels that focus only on AliExpress watches. Some of them don't spend a lot of time with the watches and are more just trying to get affiliate sales.
2.39 of 5 for seiko...is wise GMT better?
From a quality standpoint.... Absolutely! However the design is a bit different. This one is more explorer 2. So more of a field / tool watch GMT.
Whereas the wise is a bit more flashy with its 904l steel and is more of a dive style GMT.
Without the inner 24 hour markings - it would have been perfect. Also a flat crystal / solid case back to shave off 1mm. It would be perfect :)
Great review!
Thanks!
Is that a defect on the dial over the made in Japan text?
Maybe. I hadn't noticed that before. I'll have to check some different angles.
I've seen so many watch reviewers make the same mistaken criticism regarding the 24 hour time scale on the dial. You can make an argument to leave it off to make the dial less busy, but you can't make the argument to leave it off because it's redundant since there is a 24 hour scale on the bezel. The 24-hour scale on the dial is military time aligned with the regular hands. The 24-hour scale on the bezel is GMT (Greenwich Mean Time) and aligned to the GMT hand. That's why at, say, 10 o'clock, the 24-hour time on the dial is 22 for 22:00 military time, but on the 24-hour GMT time scale on the bezel it's 20, which would be 8 o'clock. If your GMT time was actually 10'oclock, the GMT hand would be at 11/23 on the dial scale. Could all of you watch reviewers please get together and figure this out.
I got the fact that it's a 24 hour scale for the hour hand. My thought process was more along the lines of if you really need it. Considering you could just use the GMT hand to see military time anyway. Since if you are traveling the GMT hand should be set to wherever you are at.
However in retrospect that argument falls completely apart if you're using it to track a 2nd time zone you are not in, and you still want to know military time locally. So yeah, not completely redundant. However, I still think it would be a cleaner overall design without it.
Right. Since most people use the dial markers for the time zone they are in and the GMT for another time zone they want to keep track of, the 12 and 24 hour dial scale is for use where you are. Doesn’t bother me at all on a field watch but if it did, I’d just buy a different GMT watch. People seem to want every watch to be made exactly for their tastes and I find criticisms based on that kind of daft. It’s different, however, if you just say it’s not my taste.
Considering the 24h bezel, the dial is too busy
My new favorite watch!
I loved it, I am thinking of get one
Great looking watch!
That's one good looking 5KeXplorer.
Movt made in Japan or Malaysia?
Held one a few weeks ago at my local Seiko/Grand Seiko AD here in Canada.
I was hoping to love this model, macros in videos all looked spectacular from the raised indices and textured dial. In hand feel is where it all fell apart, the case finishing felt poor, almost sharp in comparison to an SNK809 and you still have a jangly bracelet. The matte black dial is almost too flat or too grey. I really wish they would have had the white dial on display but I guess we may never see it. Knock off with regional releases Seiko, we're all tired of it, same for the never ending limited editions.
One point to Seiko, they brushed this bezel from the center outward where as Grand Seiko keeps ruining most if their watches with a vertical pattern.
Great review.
What’s the power reserve?
Same as most seiko's about 41ish hours.
Nice. Not getting one though, I like rotating bezel too much. Haha
Fair enough and the screw down is a must for me aside from the bezel. It is tempting to have as a poor man . 20 th piece of this poor man’s watch and counting.
If only GMT hand was smaller and longer like Tudor GMT and gass was protected by bezel and numbers are lumed this could be a nice watch...
Here in the philippines, mall price is 395usd.
What store in Manila ? Thanks
May I be so bold, the Japanese like to keep tradition, for the inner 24 hour ring furthermore, if they did remove it guest that many would criticise as it is too similar to an Explorer 2
Great video
Great review!!! Watch is nice but a bit exxy… 👍😊
Great review, it is a good looking watch, however, I agree the Japanese have kept the best to themselves, the white dial is a stunner. The only complaint I have is the thickness, it is probably due to the display back as I have an nh34 San Martin with 100m WR that is only 12.5mm thick.
"They will never do sapphire at this price point".... /me looks at my wrist toting the King Turtle Manta Ray purchased new for 400 USD...
Yeah, but that's not MSRP. I think that's more like $625.
Spot on about the white dial.
I've been the outcast in every review of this, saying that the design is a big miss, seems more rushed to fill the gap in this line with a GMT, rather than a well thought one. What's really bad thought, are the hands, kind like a match of existing (field "5") and some left overs (GMT hand comes from old divers, second hand is totally off at proportions, as all are!).
Then the bracelet. Is it a tease to Explore's fans? "Hey look! Kind of Jubilee... something Rolex will never give you"?!!
I'm not a fan of the Explorer anyway, honestly though, i expected something more from Seiko here.
I'll end saying it's a homerun indeed, but at their own field (pun intended!), not the other (winning) side...
Great review. Watch is way to cluttered and the jubilee (which I normally like) makes it even busier. Looked better on straps. Would still love to see you review something more up market (not exclusively) You are so much better at reviews than the guys that do that segment.
I think the silver markers are ment for military time keeping of the home time and the bezel marking are for the the gmt hand so not really redundant like you videos as always
Unless the military in question has suffered a cerebral stroke (or is American), he already knows that e.g. 2 in the afternoon is 14. Just like every civilian over pre-school age (who hasn't suffered a stroke or is American) does.
Pesky Americans
@4:12 Shane wakes up and chooses violence
Am I wrong? 😁
Seiko made a homahe of the Pagani pd1762. Dont encourage them more. For hardlex sake.
I wouldn't quite say that. The Pagani looks to be an Explorer 2 homage. This they took their Seiko 5 field and added GMT styling to it.
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Looks like a Hamilton
Hamilton is known for their field watches. Which one do you think it looks like?
@@RelativeTimelike Khaki field.
Mofos calling usd 500 entry level, damn I'll keep wearing that bond casio for a long time.
I get what you're saying. Always bugs me when I hear a luxury watch referred to as "entry level", but it really just means entry into something specific. In this case, talking more GMTs.
Now terms like "affordable", "mid-range", and "luxury", can be more specific. And here, $450-$500 is the top end of what I consider to be affordable. When I started the channel 5 years ago and you were to ask me that I would of said the top end was around $350. But price jumps and inflation over the last few years have sucked.
no screw down crown very annoying.
it would be nice, but good luck getting that from Seiko on a 5.
@@RelativeTime true it’s just often looked over in these reviews and I would like to hear more about it. Has drill developed a better oring system for the push pull waterproofing on the crown? Just a summary of how fail safe it is.
@@bgieho Well from what I've heard the screw down part doesn't actually add much to the water resistance. It's a common misconception. Most of the WR is coming from the O-ring / Seals.
The screwdown crown is more to prevent you from accidentally pulling it out, or fiddling with it while underwater. Which can cause and issue. Which is why there are a fair amount of 100m watches out there without a screwdown crown.
@@RelativeTime yeh makes sense… and I imagine at a certain water depth pressure, if the crown is not screw down it would release by itself.
Context isn't everything
Without context your comment is pointless. 😅
Nice enough, but still a little large. San Martin can offer something better and cheaper
They need to start selling these watches with sapphire and with better lume.
I like the JDM but it’s too expensive. I get way more watch from a 300 San Martin
Chinese garbage.
Van Banner V.bad
To small.
Not good value for the money. It really should have a sapphire crystal and machined clasp at the price point.
It should, but not going to happen with Seiko. At least they put solid end links on this one, so that's some progress.
That watch is a disaster .... even with the white dial and the orange GMT hand , it is a sorry ass disaster.
Where do you think they went wrong with it?
@@RelativeTime I am not a designer ( I'm an electro mechanical maintenance tech at a children's hospital ) here in America ... in Cuba I went 4 years to college to study design, my late dad was a master watchmaker so I haven't been disconnected from design, nor watchmaking so leaving all that info behind and focusing on the subject : The hands are wrong, they probably borrowed them from a Citizen Scuba Fin Eco drive, the inner track is redundant and unnecessary, the GMT hand is good for a dive watch, not for this one and the logo is the most tasteless logo in history, it literally looks designed by a liberal Gen Z protestor who hates watches and loves smart watches, the bracelet ( in typical Seiko fashion ) feels cheap and crude, it feels like a field watch and pilot's watch got drunk and made a baby, the watch looks like an afterthought, something done in a hurry to fill a gap .... something in what Seiko is loosing a lot of customers therefore money is in not making a quartz or solar version .... if that watch were a car, it would be the new Honda Type R. To describe the watch with a word, the word would be : Frustrating. Your channel, on the other hand .... amazing; I follow it devotedly. Thanks .
Troll
Your a hater
Don't hate the player hate the game... 😁
Just kidding... not sure what your refering to.
Seiko are promoted by youtube influencers... So there watch' are over hyped!! Most of the money goes to marketers. I have seen better watch with swatch group
I would say they are covered, not promoted. As far as I know, Seiko isn't sponsoring anyone here on RUclips. Regardless, they are covered a lot because there is a lot of interest in their watches. I get far more views from Seiko videos than I do from almost any other brand.
That said, which swatch group watch do you think does it better for the same or less?
After reading this I noticed this SSK023K model seems to be the one watch that many watch enthusiasts /influencers have covered and feature in a video. It's by far the most popular in recent times. Any idea as to why that is the case?
@@fungorillaDo you mean in terms of Seiko 5 Field GMTs? Or just Seiko reviews recently?
With regard to the Seiko 5 Fields specifically, there were only 3 models released, and one of those was a JDM. So out of the remaining two, this is the most normal, and the one most people would be interested in seeing.
Out of all the more recent Seikos. Well the Field GMTS are most interesting out of the more affordable recent Seiko 5 releases. I know there have been a lot of GMTS released recently, but you got to also remember that 4 years ago the idea of a Seiko GMT for $400 was crazy talk.
@@RelativeTime this model in particular has got a lot more reviews than any other watches on RUclips. It has only been released a couple of months since its release, and there are tonnes of content about it. I guess as you say there is much interest and it being priced more affordably makes it a more attractive proposition.
@@fungorillaIt was also released in Japan a few months earlier than internationally too. So they were available online if you knew about it and where to look. In fact Dave (Just the Watch) whos in Japan, told me when he ordered one and I asked if he would get me and ship it to me. So I was working under the impression I had a lead over everyone and could take my time getting it out. But about a week after I got it, the reviews were already starting to come out.
Because one of the problems with a lot of reviewers these days (at leat as I see it) is that many don't spend a lot of time with the watches before making a review. Some turn the camera on as soon as they get it and ramble whatever comes to mind. One of my biggest pet peeves is when I see a review where the bracelet isn't even sized. They just hold it up to their wrist.
The thing about Seiko videos, is they get views. Even though most of us know there are better priced and better speced watches out there, a Seiko video will typically far outperform any of those. As much as we complain about them, people are always interested in Seiko. For example, the last NH34 GMT I covered before this was the Phobois Wavemaster GMT. It got about 8k views, which is pretty good. Most microbrands these days get around 3-4k. But this Seiko's got 43k views, and that's with all the competition.