Jeremiah seems like he's reading a script. I'd much rather have Zach explain this kind of stuff. He seems to genuinely be much more knowledgeable about vehicles in general.
@@peppermintnightmare4741 I mean, he is the one who researched and wrote that script, it also feels like he has a good grip on the stuff he is explaining, so I don’t see a problem
@@HavoXtreme ya i mean he at least researched it well it seems. I mean most people dont know wtf a resonance structure or how pi bonds in molecules is. who cares if he mixed up molecule and atom it gets the point across and is perfectly understandable considering the convo is on ozone
So glad, cuz it shows that hes not trying to be like James anymore. His videos were basically unwatchable for me because of him trying to be like James, and i really enjoy him now!
So now, instead of N2O systems, we're gonna see O3 systems in NFS games. Also, please tell James to finally do an Up to Speed on Peugeot, I've been waiting for centuries already
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We'll probably still have N2O, it's been there since 2003
@ Yeah, but a small part of N₂O's appeal is that it's not exactly completely legal, and that small part becomes a much bigger part of the appeal in works of fiction like _Need for Speed_ and _The Fast and the Furious_
Joke’s on you, I already have a Decked drawer system, and I can say I love it. Every single system is custom fit for every truck brand, so it fits exactly to my F150 with a 6.5’ box and it’ll fit exactly in a Chevy 2500 with an 8’ box. The drawers are amazing, super smooth, and the optional boxes fit perfectly as well. I made a mess in one of the drawers one time, and it was super easy to pull out and hose off. Just in case you don’t believe the paid sponsorship from these guys, take it from a guy who has driven trucks all his life, this Decked system is a very good product.
@@AlGoYoSu it's all about timing. I'm extremely sensitive to smells and it was sooo awesome to be in a bathroom that smelled about absolutely nothing... for days! Just give it a few more hours and you'll be fine.
@@AlGoYoSu I use a small generator to clear out car odors- it has a timed shutoff so it’ll run for an hour, you have the AC on full blast recycle, then you air the car out for a good 7-8 hours and your good. Ozone shouldn’t linger.
@@AlGoYoSu I've never had lingering ozone odor (after thoroughly airing out), but there might be something the ozone reacted to that left an odor, or just that it removed one odor but left another, changing the smell afterword.
There were air purifiers back in the day(not advertised as an ozone generator) that were harming and even killing people if they had it in a bedroom with the door closed(low airflow). Its bad stuff but amazing for getting smells out of cars. We use one at my dealership and put it in cars that people have smoked in over the weekend and you can't smell anything, its pretty awesome.
Some have already tried this, and it caused the engine to die, the heat in a small engine causes misfires and overheating. They contemplated that the heat generated from Ozone being broke down would likely just destroy the engine. Keep to using Ozone to clean the car cabins. If you want power, build the engine properly , get a turbo or supercharger, there's no shortcuts in the longterm.
You touched upon the embrittlement and degradation of elastomers bit, but as I was watching this I also had concerns about how aggressively the ozone could oxidize the internals of your engine, too. That elastomer embrittlement is directly because of ozone's extremely high oxidation potential. It quite literally destroys chemical bonds, left, right, and center, but it can also accelerate oxidation of metals like iron (rust) and copper (patina).
Having worked with ozone before in the lab, i can say that embrittlement of elastomeres is an understatement. After just 20 min of low concentrated ozone contact a rubber stopper literally falls apart. I would not want to have that aside me in my car.
Must have been an extraordinarily high "low concentration" to cause that much damage in such a short amount of time. I use ozone generators in car interiors to sterilise and remove odours. I literally fill cars with it for 30-60min and there is no noticable degredation to interior plastics/rubber in that amount of time.
@@flammybino8523 Yeah i guess our low concentration is still super high for your application^^ which makes a lot of sense, since its so reactive/dangerous.
@@rhetericused it for smell, might have been in his living room 🤔 hard to remember that was about 10 years ago and was kept completely baked the whole time
@@nahnggrowsdirt3955 makes more sense. Friend of mine had an ozone air freshener in his house in the 90s. I remember the smell it would emit. Glad it wasn't in my house!
Might I suggest making a video about the safety rating for most super cars. I would love to see a video reviewing each million dollar super car or any of the sort showing how each handles different types of car accidents. I'm not rich but if I was and I spent millions on a car I would expect for it to keep me a live in ana accident.
Decked is really good I have one in my dad's F-150 we have at home and use it for hunting. It fits a lot of stuff in there. Definitely highly recommend it
I had a similar doubt years back 😁 What I read was Nitrous after dumping the oxygen would also help in cooling the engine. So might have to rewrite that section on cooling 😁
Can you talk about camshafts and how upgrading a camshaft can add power. We put the most aggressive cam that would fit in the ls1 in my parents 1998 Pontiac Firebird Formula. Power went from 350 to somewhere in the range of 500-600 horsepower.
was thinking the same dangers of that ozone purifier when I saw. I worked in apartments and we would use an Ozone machine to help clear out all the dog/cat/smoker smells but we'd have to clear out immediately after turning it on because you'd feel your body get vacuumed sucked of all oxygen so you just couldn't be in there
@@moneyxbags123 I think you don’t understand how tall this will be. It’s larger than a truck with a container on it. The down pressure of it’s weight will be so big that the car can just flip over while braking. Not even talking about aerodynamics
fun fact we use ozone generators for cleaning and sterilizing wine tanks. didn't think they were that hard get ahold of also are quite large units. they were a lot of maintenance and upkeep. rebuilt quite a few.
Can you guys make a vid on the automotive headlights/tail lights?where they started to where they are now and maybe the future.there is so much engineering that goes unnoticed in the lights.mow pawa baby!
The ozone layer is actually repairing since we got rid of CFC's it's a slow process and doesn't always progress fowards every year but the trend line is smaller
Reminiscent of the onboard air compressors on recent Volvo and Koenigsegg cars, the ECM would blast the air into the turbine housing to improve throttle response.
Bro if you want more power out of your ls1, LS6 intake and a good matching cam and a competent tuner to fix it up and you'll be making plenty of extra ponies ALL the time. Your engine will thank you too. Also it will sound way cooler at idle and under load.
Well, duuh. Solar radiation which is stronger at higher altitude, does exactly the same as an ozone generator, just at a grand scale. Once we stopped using clorinated fluoro-carbon gasses and other ozone reducers on a widespread scale the ozone layer is able to regenerate faster than it is broken down...
Funny. I thought of a plasma cleaner I was designing and I ran into ozone stability issues forcing me to change my designs. Thanks for addressing that.
They did. ruclips.net/video/C9zoo6e_kDc/видео.html Fun fact. One of the most aero efficient cars ever. The 90's "Bar of soap" styling vibes were really good for aero. Catfish, FD RX7 and EG Civics have crazy low drag.
@@travishabursky4362 4 years for me. Brained myself in a racing accident, 9 month recovery. Afterwards, hangovers would last like five days so that was that. I ain't getting any younger and I'd rather keep racing than keep partying.
@@bennyb.1742 for me it was a case of “I’m a real rat bastard after a few, so why should I do that to myself and other people.” I regret not doing this sooner.
Use an immediate ozone injector no bottle just constant power sorta like boost. It would need to be able to keep up and be able to keep the a/f ratio relatively steady too.
I have a decked ratpack. It's awesome but does not handle impact well.. set a miter saw down a little hard and she cracked. Called them and they agreed to send me a new piece for free, I just had to pay shipping. Great company
The expansion characteristic of hot nitrogen is very important in the process of pushing the piston down in the combustion process. which you would be without with the ozone injection.
True, however Nitrogen is an inert gas and inhibits the full combustion of a fuel. I think would expect that in an ozone combustion, more fuel would be converted into cabonic gasses and supplement the nitrogen for pressure expansion. Additionally, without nitrogen in the chamber, you would potentially need far less fuel for the same amount of power. Realistically, you’d probably detonate the fuel instead of burning it which would be the main problem, but it would release an insane amount of energy in the cylinder compared to air or N2O. I think this system could work well in a Diesel engine, just not a gas engine.
@@Matoro828 you bring up a good point. I will have to look more into what you have brought up because I admittedly don't know much about this ozone system. The heat I think would be a big issue with warping parts but also it could form hot spots which could cause pre-detonation kinda like what you had said.
@@frankrizzo2724 yea it’s interesting I think you are right in a sense: pure oxygen is probably too volatile for an ICE. Ozone is definitely far too volatile for one. But I think if you made an engine purpose built and tuned for it, it would work. I think it would have to be a turbine or a Diesel engine to handle the forces, and you would probably need to use titanium or tungsten plated components to withstand the heat. But, the potential is there for an engine with extreme power output. Even something as small as a 10% gain in the amount of chemical- energy released by ozone combustion would lead to an insane growth of power.
@@Matoro828 there was an article in hot rod magazine where these guys used pressurized air to create boost and per pound made a lot more power than turbo or supercharger due to cold inlet temps and lack of pumping losses associated with compressing the air. You should also look up the turbonique drag axle from the 60's. It's literally a turbine engine attached to the ring and pinion. Most people never heard of it. It was insane.
We use mild ozone generation in HVAC and refrigeration. We use the UV bulbs inside of residential air handlers to help kill mold, bacteria and viruses. Likewise, we use smaller UV bulbs in the restaurant service for ice bins to kill bacteria, slimes, molds, etc and keep ice fresh. Sometimes you can open up an ice bin and get that “lightening” smell since lightening also creates ozone. There are more intense ozonators that use the electrical method Jeremiah mentioned. These can be found for exterminating ground bees and other insects where you put the ozonator under an aquarium that’s over a nest of yellow jackets. These types are also used in smoke/mold remediation in houses to eliminate odors, but are intense and designed for only short periods of time as they can kill you. Not designed for everyday household use. Ozone in the sky is good, down here it creates smog and oxidizes things, hence why California has made them illegal.
Great episode (as per usual)! Idea for a B2B episode or series: the difference between Japanese, American, German, and English engines. They are known for different advantages and problems and I think a breakdown of what is different (better and worse (or neutral)) between all of them. What makes them unique/desirable? Anyhow, thanks for your work! See you next time!
Is there a way to generate ozone catalytically from hot compressed air? Because if there is, one could hypothetically stick a thing before or instead of intercooler to gain more power.
Need mo power! It made me lol when he said hey we got this thing that protects all of us and it's dwindling away... We should burn it in great quantities. Lol can't wait to see if it works! You guys rock🤘
I just watched the J damper video and now this, was just wondering do u have a college degree in stem or just an awesome RnD team, cuz a lot of the stuff u talk about I am learning in college rn. Anyways Kudos to whoever writes up this stuff. Keep going!
I’m a dialysis nurse and we use ozone to disinfect our water system, one time I could not tell if it was working so I openedthe tank to see if it was running and I legit passed out for an hour.. I saw nothing but black with little spots and it was hard to breathe.. it’s no joke
This is crazy as hell that this episode even came about, a few months ago I was actually working on an engineering study about an ozone generator designed to auto replenish tanks inside of a car.
Sounds good but I don't think thermodynamics is on your side. I mean woudn't the energy needed to produce ozone be the same or grater than the one you get burning it?
Ozone is wicked awesome at breaking down organics on contact. Great for wastewater and water treatment. It has potential to be used in new applications but we would have to master it's rapid creation and be able to store it to some degree
F-15E aircraft have what is called an MSOGS (Molecular Sieve Oxygen Generation System) or OBOGS (On Board Oxygen Generation System) and the compressed air that is tapped off from the intake side of the engine is purified at the molecular level to yield pure oxygen as required by the pilot and WSO (Weapons System Officer).
Not to mention ozone is extremely reactive with almost anything organic, hence why rubber seals break down on exposure to ozone. Storing ozone is half the battle. All of the piping, seals, and valves to get O3 to the engine is also a major issue, if a leak occurs inside the vehicle youre gonna have a bad time. Since ozone is so reactive with organics such as gasoline itself, ozone injection would most likely cause some serious engine knock and most likely break the block from serious overpressure. Ozone may even react with the motor oil on the sides of the cylinder walls at high enough temps. Theres a whole slew of problems with ozone as an oxidizer.
what about using it in the cold vacuum of deep space? when it degrades, it can just be supplied as regular oxygen and in emergency's you convert it to 03 as fuel
@@zeedstun891 The scariest risk in space is an internal fire. Ozone is just too good of an oxidiser and too unstable to justify using it. It's a ridiculously good oxidiser, it's one of those things where it's possible but there's better, less "everything is now flammable lol" alternatives. Still has it's uses though!
There are quite a few issues with this that I can see. 1. Ozone is very toxic and reactive 2. It’s unstable in any amount usable for this purpose and is likely to just decompose into oxygen after a short period of time(at which point a pure oxygen tank would be better) 3. The tank system for this would be not that much different from NOS. I just can’t see this being all that viable. And also, there are plenty of other oxidizers than Oxygen.
Nitrous oxide is used because it can be liquefied so that it will only regasify after leaving the gas injection system, and this is important to avoid the system becoming too cold, and to cool down the air-fuel mixture and avoid detonation. To use pure oxygen gas injection, the compression ratio would have to be lowered, and the entire system would have to be heated. What I would do is to inject liquefied propane into the wet shot fogger together with the nitrous oxide, to lower intake temperature even more and avoid fuel condensation.
Love the show in general and pretty much everything in this show is spot on. I run an industrial ozone generator manufacturing company and always just wanted to try hitting the intake with some ozone, but every point made here was spot on. There are even a couple more that make it unfeasible. Only one error is that ozone isn't illegal in california, We have many clients in Cali including hospitals. I believe Jeremiah meant ozone used for air treatment. That is indeed illegal, and most of the products available are just plain trash anyway. Our equipment is used in water and sewage treatment. Not going to plug the company name as that isn't the point. Just wanted to show some support for the show since I actually have something relevant to add for once.
@@matsmith5937 Only at the daylight in the night plants use oxygen as well Plants are almost oxygen neutral (they produce only a little more oxygen as they consume) the real producer of the oxygen in the world are in the oceans namely the plankton. which is increasingly under the threat because of humans pollution of the oceans
I hope you can make a video about stance i think it would be a very interesting content and besides it is also a big part of car culture good bless to your channel.
What about a compress air system. There is/was a small California company that was creating a CAS supercharger. Basically they used a scuba tank and special valves to boost an engine.
Just do watermeth injection. It gives you more oxygen by lowering the temperature, give you more fuel through methanol, cleans your engine intake, and lower emission through lower exhaust temp! Perfect solution.
The EPA came to their conclusions about ozone generators after testing them in confined spaces ten times smaller than they were rated for. A little ozone is probably good, for the reasons you specified, and occurs naturally in the air we breathe already. A lotta ozone is definitely bad, again for the reasons specified. See bigclive's video about ozone for more info.
Yup I’m pretty sure there’s going to be a new Energy drink called Ozone Energy 😂 Edit: It turns out there is already an Energy Drink called Ozone Energy
There used to be some research into using liquid ozone instead of liquid diatomic oxygen as the oxidizer used in rocket engines. Because ozone is denser it will need smaller tanks to be stored and less volumetric flow rate to make the same power in the engine and to keep a rocket engine going. However there were some challenges that ultimately prevented common use of liquid ozone in rockets. The biggest problem being liquid ozone will explosively decompose into diatomic oxygen if hit with a hammer, or looked at the wrong way. Makes it pretty dangerous to pump or to store at all. It's also obviously a very good oxidizer and reacts with a lot of things violently.
Yeah, these aren't car guys, these are RUclipsrs, and they're not very bright either; O³ would yield three oxygen atoms, not molecules, those would be O², lol.
@@hlaw2830 Besides, I'm not sure O3 would have much advantage over O2. In theory with a 100% oxygen setup you could do almost 5 times your normal engine output. Imagine doing a 2500 shot on a stock LS7, wonder if something break or melts first.
Could you say, increase efficiency by burning the same amount of fuel, with higher oxygen density under vacuum resulting in a much larger expansion ratio, and less resistance on the compression stroke?
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Been here since it said "is ozone injection is better than nitrous"
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Amen brother
Ye
Same here
well, is ozone injection is better?
Jeremiah is doing a lot to build interest in chemistry, and I like it.
Well he's got atoms and molecules mixed up
Jeremiah seems like he's reading a script. I'd much rather have Zach explain this kind of stuff. He seems to genuinely be much more knowledgeable about vehicles in general.
@@peppermintnightmare4741 yea this guuy a try hard
@@peppermintnightmare4741 I mean, he is the one who researched and wrote that script, it also feels like he has a good grip on the stuff he is explaining, so I don’t see a problem
@@HavoXtreme ya i mean he at least researched it well it seems. I mean most people dont know wtf a resonance structure or how pi bonds in molecules is. who cares if he mixed up molecule and atom it gets the point across and is perfectly understandable considering the convo is on ozone
I think its in jeremiah's contract to make at least one joke roasting our mothers
it’ll never get old
"You signed the contract Jeremy, u have to do it..." XDDD
Mmmm, roasted mother
Guess he and gmanlives have something in common
@TommyInnit 🅥 you're a scam. Pathetic.
“Can hold up to 200 lbs each”
“That’s half your mom”
Savage
Love this man
Glad I'm not the only one that caught that
That got me. 🤣
I can’t believe how many times “more power” was said, with not a single “mo powah babeh”
My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined🥲
I have so much more respect for him because of that.
So glad, cuz it shows that hes not trying to be like James anymore. His videos were basically unwatchable for me because of him trying to be like James, and i really enjoy him now!
Back in the day someone tried running a couple scuba air tanks on a drag car, it works but there’s a lot of draw backs too
“I don’t want to mess around with a turbocharger”
The shirt says otherwise.
Only theoretical
@Sidemen 🅥 wow, fake sidemen channel made literally 2 days ago. Not talking about the no-effort check mark
@@Appa1315 same guy with the tommy innit one he didnt even try to make it look believable
@Sidemen 🅥 good attempt
Cam, headers, E85, and a tune would be a great option if you don’t want to go forced induction.
Yeah well most people outside of the US don't have 6.2 liter LS engines nor are those price efficient to mod here in Europe
E85 is bad bad bad... don't put it into an engine you like.
Koenigsegg: Cams? Where we're going, we don't need cams.
So now, instead of N2O systems, we're gonna see O3 systems in NFS games.
Also, please tell James to finally do an Up to Speed on Peugeot, I've been waiting for centuries already
We'll probably still have N2O, it's been there since 2003
Ayo what is kv2 doing here😳😳
@@jooj7046 get ze Panzerfaust...................not that it's gonna pierce that armour but hey every little helps
@ Yeah, but a small part of N₂O's appeal is that it's not exactly completely legal, and that small part becomes a much bigger part of the appeal in works of fiction like _Need for Speed_ and _The Fast and the Furious_
I have a peugeot bicycle and used to have a peugeot moped so that would definitely be a pretty cool up to speed
Joke’s on you, I already have a Decked drawer system, and I can say I love it. Every single system is custom fit for every truck brand, so it fits exactly to my F150 with a 6.5’ box and it’ll fit exactly in a Chevy 2500 with an 8’ box.
The drawers are amazing, super smooth, and the optional boxes fit perfectly as well. I made a mess in one of the drawers one time, and it was super easy to pull out and hose off.
Just in case you don’t believe the paid sponsorship from these guys, take it from a guy who has driven trucks all his life, this Decked system is a very good product.
Ozone is awesome for removing smells. Using a machine in houses or cars for 24 hours (while not in them) removes a ton of odor!
While effective, the ozone scent lingers for some time, and can often be worse than the smell you're trying to eliminate.
@@AlGoYoSu it's all about timing. I'm extremely sensitive to smells and it was sooo awesome to be in a bathroom that smelled about absolutely nothing... for days!
Just give it a few more hours and you'll be fine.
@@AlGoYoSu I use a small generator to clear out car odors- it has a timed shutoff so it’ll run for an hour, you have the AC on full blast recycle, then you air the car out for a good 7-8 hours and your good. Ozone shouldn’t linger.
@@AlGoYoSu I've never had lingering ozone odor (after thoroughly airing out), but there might be something the ozone reacted to that left an odor, or just that it removed one odor but left another, changing the smell afterword.
@@AlGoYoSu ozone then use febreeze
if you ever wondered what the "smell of electricity" is...it's ozone. mostly.
It's the smell that immediately tells an electrician that something is very wrong and everything needs shut off.
@@ekscalybur something is arcing
Ozone is produced near photocopiers, because they use a high voltage you can smell it. It has a sharp smell.
The "smell" of electricity!!!! Ozone and melting insulation materials...
@@altergreenhorn damn I really like the smell of ozone then hahaha
“Is Ozone Injection is Better Than Nitrous?”
I too have the good grammar
I had to I take a second I look.
Goodest grammar
@@SnakeStuck Bestist grammar!
Once they found out ozone was better they had to get rid of all the nitrous....🎈
...thats what thinning ozone layer does to ya grammaaa!
There were air purifiers back in the day(not advertised as an ozone generator) that were harming and even killing people if they had it in a bedroom with the door closed(low airflow). Its bad stuff but amazing for getting smells out of cars. We use one at my dealership and put it in cars that people have smoked in over the weekend and you can't smell anything, its pretty awesome.
“Is ozone injection is better than nitrous” gang 💯💯💯
Loved the video
Some have already tried this, and it caused the engine to die, the heat in a small engine causes misfires and overheating. They contemplated that the heat generated from Ozone being broke down would likely just destroy the engine.
Keep to using Ozone to clean the car cabins. If you want power, build the engine properly , get a turbo or supercharger, there's no shortcuts in the longterm.
"Is Ozone Injection is Better Than Nitrous?" - Donut Media video title in the first 2 or something like that minutes 3rd of August 2021 Colorized
Same here.
I think they answered the question while asking.
You touched upon the embrittlement and degradation of elastomers bit, but as I was watching this I also had concerns about how aggressively the ozone could oxidize the internals of your engine, too. That elastomer embrittlement is directly because of ozone's extremely high oxidation potential. It quite literally destroys chemical bonds, left, right, and center, but it can also accelerate oxidation of metals like iron (rust) and copper (patina).
“I don’t want to juice.” Proceeds to talk about another chemical supercharging method.
Having worked with ozone before in the lab, i can say that embrittlement of elastomeres is an understatement. After just 20 min of low concentrated ozone contact a rubber stopper literally falls apart. I would not want to have that aside me in my car.
Must have been an extraordinarily high "low concentration" to cause that much damage in such a short amount of time. I use ozone generators in car interiors to sterilise and remove odours. I literally fill cars with it for 30-60min and there is no noticable degredation to interior plastics/rubber in that amount of time.
@@flammybino8523 Yeah i guess our low concentration is still super high for your application^^ which makes a lot of sense, since its so reactive/dangerous.
Yeah, O3 (ozone) is pretty much the most reactive oxidizer I can think of besides basic Fluorine and ClF3
I was thinking the same. Imagine intake system, valve, and combustion chamber corrosion
"store it safely"
/grabs popcorn/ dis gon' be good
there's a really, really good reason you can't buy ozone in a tank
that link ⬆️up there⬆️ is a spam
@@andrey2001v thx
@@andrey2001v thanks
My buddy was using an ozone generator for his grow room, felt funny when we would be in there for more than a couple minutes. That shits dangerous.
Exactly if something happens you are going to get gassed and that is absolutely anything but funny
Are you sure it wasn't a CO2 generator? Plants consume CO2 and release oxygen... Not the opposite. Could explain that "feeling" you were having 😉
@@rhetericused it for smell, might have been in his living room 🤔 hard to remember that was about 10 years ago and was kept completely baked the whole time
@@nahnggrowsdirt3955 makes more sense. Friend of mine had an ozone air freshener in his house in the 90s. I remember the smell it would emit. Glad it wasn't in my house!
Might I suggest making a video about the safety rating for most super cars. I would love to see a video reviewing each million dollar super car or any of the sort showing how each handles different types of car accidents. I'm not rich but if I was and I spent millions on a car I would expect for it to keep me a live in ana accident.
That ad was amazing. I need that in my life
Decked is really good I have one in my dad's F-150 we have at home and use it for hunting. It fits a lot of stuff in there. Definitely highly recommend it
I've been using ozone on my saltwater reef tanks for years! Never thought about it on my car 🤔 interesting.
I had a similar doubt years back 😁
What I read was Nitrous after dumping the oxygen would also help in cooling the engine. So might have to rewrite that section on cooling 😁
This is interesting because I just finished a video of Mousetrap Monday using Ozoninator to destroy a nest of yellow jackets, lol! Thanks B2B.
That channel is awesome. Good taste
Shawn is da man....
Give it a little flip
@Sidemen 🅥 shut up
I watched that same video last night.
Can you talk about camshafts and how upgrading a camshaft can add power. We put the most aggressive cam that would fit in the ls1 in my parents 1998 Pontiac Firebird Formula. Power went from 350 to somewhere in the range of 500-600 horsepower.
A B2B on fuel octane differences would be awesome!
was thinking the same dangers of that ozone purifier when I saw. I worked in apartments and we would use an Ozone machine to help clear out all the dog/cat/smoker smells but we'd have to clear out immediately after turning it on because you'd feel your body get vacuumed sucked of all oxygen so you just couldn't be in there
Third option for getting OZONE in the engine: make a roof scoop that scoops the OZONE out of the sky
Don't give those ricers ideas 😂
That hood scoop would have to be a couple thousand feet tall
@@g45h96 yea so?
@@moneyxbags123 I think you don’t understand how tall this will be. It’s larger than a truck with a container on it. The down pressure of it’s weight will be so big that the car can just flip over while braking. Not even talking about aerodynamics
@@Appa1315 twas a joke
fun fact we use ozone generators for cleaning and sterilizing wine tanks. didn't think they were that hard get ahold of also are quite large units. they were a lot of maintenance and upkeep. rebuilt quite a few.
"It can carry 200 lbs thats half your mom" 😂
Joe
@@No-cc1fq Joe who?
@@user-il8yw5jb3p Joe mama
Jack Mama
Can you guys make a vid on the automotive headlights/tail lights?where they started to where they are now and maybe the future.there is so much engineering that goes unnoticed in the lights.mow pawa baby!
The ozone layer is actually repairing since we got rid of CFC's it's a slow process and doesn't always progress fowards every year but the trend line is smaller
Ozone is produced by UV light.
It never was a problem.
Love that the advert points out a problem with trucks, that can be better solved with a proper car but instead of their product
Can't wait for that future video on quantum physics! Also, didn't expect Heelies. LOL!
I hope that during my life time I get to see donut replace the public school system🤣
Reminiscent of the onboard air compressors on recent Volvo and Koenigsegg cars, the ECM would blast the air into the turbine housing to improve throttle response.
Day 405 of asking James to do an Up to speed on his Dad
more like day 3 lol
@@luicc1156 Nah, he was here since a long time now
@@luicc1156 dude, he's literally Paganiboi, he's THE f***ing legend, tf are you talking about, how dare you
@@luicc1156 lol yeah right. You are new here and we can all see that.
Mans doing it for a year please end this guy suffering
Bro if you want more power out of your ls1, LS6 intake and a good matching cam and a competent tuner to fix it up and you'll be making plenty of extra ponies ALL the time. Your engine will thank you too. Also it will sound way cooler at idle and under load.
The ozone layer is actually healing itself atm dude, the hole over Antarctica is actually shrinking
Well, duuh. Solar radiation which is stronger at higher altitude, does exactly the same as an ozone generator, just at a grand scale. Once we stopped using clorinated fluoro-carbon gasses and other ozone reducers on a widespread scale the ozone layer is able to regenerate faster than it is broken down...
We need an Explosions and Fire collab with all this talk of ozone. Maybe Jeremiah can join the carbon tet gang.
I just keep hearing the GoodTimesWithScar Super fast build mode music in the beginning...
I think it might be lol, im hearing it too
Hoooo hello my fellow
Funny. I thought of a plasma cleaner I was designing and I ran into ozone stability issues forcing me to change my designs. Thanks for addressing that.
I really want an up to speed on those sweet 90’s Catfish Camaros.
They did lol
@@cainadkins3985 well shit. I quit drinking recently and the brain fog is real.
They did. ruclips.net/video/C9zoo6e_kDc/видео.html
Fun fact. One of the most aero efficient cars ever. The 90's "Bar of soap" styling vibes were really good for aero. Catfish, FD RX7 and EG Civics have crazy low drag.
@@travishabursky4362 4 years for me. Brained myself in a racing accident, 9 month recovery. Afterwards, hangovers would last like five days so that was that. I ain't getting any younger and I'd rather keep racing than keep partying.
@@bennyb.1742 for me it was a case of “I’m a real rat bastard after a few, so why should I do that to myself and other people.” I regret not doing this sooner.
Use an immediate ozone injector no bottle just constant power sorta like boost. It would need to be able to keep up and be able to keep the a/f ratio relatively steady too.
I would love to see Max to have his own show
I'll pass on the skinny jeans and heelys
@@alejandroherrera5271 Why are you so lame dude? I'll pass on your comment lol.
@@nvrndingsmmr why am I lame? I'm not the one wearing skinny jeans and Heelys as an adult. What are you, 12?
@@alejandroherrera5271 God you're so boring.
@@nvrndingsmmr good one. You sure put me in my place 🙄
Awesome, I'm a mechanical engineer, but I never thought about O3. Cheers Jeremiah
To quote David Freiburger calling nitrous oxide “Nos” is clown shoes. I agree, obviously a generational difference. Still love the content.
To be fair, people do this with everything, for example band aid is a brand but we all say it even when referring to a generic brand bandage, 🤷🏼♂️
I have a decked ratpack. It's awesome but does not handle impact well.. set a miter saw down a little hard and she cracked. Called them and they agreed to send me a new piece for free, I just had to pay shipping. Great company
The expansion characteristic of hot nitrogen is very important in the process of pushing the piston down in the combustion process. which you would be without with the ozone injection.
True, however Nitrogen is an inert gas and inhibits the full combustion of a fuel. I think would expect that in an ozone combustion, more fuel would be converted into cabonic gasses and supplement the nitrogen for pressure expansion. Additionally, without nitrogen in the chamber, you would potentially need far less fuel for the same amount of power. Realistically, you’d probably detonate the fuel instead of burning it which would be the main problem, but it would release an insane amount of energy in the cylinder compared to air or N2O. I think this system could work well in a Diesel engine, just not a gas engine.
@@Matoro828 people played with oxygen injection way back in the day and it proved far to volitile. Think the technology exists today?
@@Matoro828 you bring up a good point. I will have to look more into what you have brought up because I admittedly don't know much about this ozone system. The heat I think would be a big issue with warping parts but also it could form hot spots which could cause pre-detonation kinda like what you had said.
@@frankrizzo2724 yea it’s interesting I think you are right in a sense: pure oxygen is probably too volatile for an ICE. Ozone is definitely far too volatile for one. But I think if you made an engine purpose built and tuned for it, it would work. I think it would have to be a turbine or a Diesel engine to handle the forces, and you would probably need to use titanium or tungsten plated components to withstand the heat. But, the potential is there for an engine with extreme power output. Even something as small as a 10% gain in the amount of chemical- energy released by ozone combustion would lead to an insane growth of power.
@@Matoro828 there was an article in hot rod magazine where these guys used pressurized air to create boost and per pound made a lot more power than turbo or supercharger due to cold inlet temps and lack of pumping losses associated with compressing the air. You should also look up the turbonique drag axle from the 60's. It's literally a turbine engine attached to the ring and pinion. Most people never heard of it. It was insane.
We use mild ozone generation in HVAC and refrigeration. We use the UV bulbs inside of residential air handlers to help kill mold, bacteria and viruses. Likewise, we use smaller UV bulbs in the restaurant service for ice bins to kill bacteria, slimes, molds, etc and keep ice fresh. Sometimes you can open up an ice bin and get that “lightening” smell since lightening also creates ozone.
There are more intense ozonators that use the electrical method Jeremiah mentioned. These can be found for exterminating ground bees and other insects where you put the ozonator under an aquarium that’s over a nest of yellow jackets. These types are also used in smoke/mold remediation in houses to eliminate odors, but are intense and designed for only short periods of time as they can kill you. Not designed for everyday household use.
Ozone in the sky is good, down here it creates smog and oxidizes things, hence why California has made them illegal.
When's Jer gonna cross over with PBS Space Time and explain some quantum auto mechanics?
Great episode (as per usual)! Idea for a B2B episode or series: the difference between Japanese, American, German, and English engines. They are known for different advantages and problems and I think a breakdown of what is different (better and worse (or neutral)) between all of them. What makes them unique/desirable? Anyhow, thanks for your work! See you next time!
Day 24 of asking for an Up to Speed on how Donut Media came to be
Only took 3 years and James leaving to get our answer...
Is there a way to generate ozone catalytically from hot compressed air? Because if there is, one could hypothetically stick a thing before or instead of intercooler to gain more power.
Need mo power! It made me lol when he said hey we got this thing that protects all of us and it's dwindling away... We should burn it in great quantities. Lol can't wait to see if it works! You guys rock🤘
thats exactly what i was thinking lmao.... also, even in small quanties, inhaling ozone can have major health reprocussions
We have decked in our work truck. Great thing to have
I just watched the J damper video and now this, was just wondering do u have a college degree in stem or just an awesome RnD team, cuz a lot of the stuff u talk about I am learning in college rn.
Anyways Kudos to whoever writes up this stuff. Keep going!
Yeah, I think he has a bachelor's in Mechanical engineering, and a masters in Biomedical engineering.
I’m a dialysis nurse and we use ozone to disinfect our water system, one time I could not tell if it was working so I openedthe tank to see if it was running and I legit passed out for an hour.. I saw nothing but black with little spots and it was hard to breathe.. it’s no joke
Well that was fucking stupid 😂 glad you're okay.
This is crazy as hell that this episode even came about, a few months ago I was actually working on an engineering study about an ozone generator designed to auto replenish tanks inside of a car.
Sounds good but I don't think thermodynamics is on your side. I mean woudn't the energy needed to produce ozone be the same or grater than the one you get burning it?
Ozone is wicked awesome at breaking down organics on contact. Great for wastewater and water treatment. It has potential to be used in new applications but we would have to master it's rapid creation and be able to store it to some degree
We aren't just gonna have big Jacob's Ladders or arc gaps making that stuff
F-15E aircraft have what is called an MSOGS (Molecular Sieve Oxygen Generation System) or OBOGS (On Board Oxygen Generation System) and the compressed air that is tapped off from the intake side of the engine is purified at the molecular level to yield pure oxygen as required by the pilot and WSO (Weapons System Officer).
Not to mention ozone is extremely reactive with almost anything organic, hence why rubber seals break down on exposure to ozone. Storing ozone is half the battle. All of the piping, seals, and valves to get O3 to the engine is also a major issue, if a leak occurs inside the vehicle youre gonna have a bad time. Since ozone is so reactive with organics such as gasoline itself, ozone injection would most likely cause some serious engine knock and most likely break the block from serious overpressure. Ozone may even react with the motor oil on the sides of the cylinder walls at high enough temps. Theres a whole slew of problems with ozone as an oxidizer.
what about using it in the cold vacuum of deep space? when it degrades, it can just be supplied as regular oxygen and in emergency's you convert it to 03 as fuel
@@zeedstun891 The scariest risk in space is an internal fire. Ozone is just too good of an oxidiser and too unstable to justify using it. It's a ridiculously good oxidiser, it's one of those things where it's possible but there's better, less "everything is now flammable lol" alternatives. Still has it's uses though!
@@georgeperalta936 space is fake
@@mattk252 hot take I’m here for it
it's not that bad. I ozone my water at home
Ozone is also good for water pool treatment . Mine I use an aquazone tech
Goddaynm, that was a really nice add, I actually enjoyed learning about the companie
I once heard a guy say that turbo diesel engines could use propane like NOS, would love to hear some actual thoughts from people that know about that.
They can use nitrous oxide too, so why not use both?
"is ozone injection is better than nitrous?" have you guys been inhaling it?
Lmfao fr
nah they been injecting it lmao
Nearly half an hour later, they still haven't changed it. I guess they're keeping the title to mess with our heads
I don't see the problem
@@alexj.5207 they've changed the title now
There are quite a few issues with this that I can see. 1. Ozone is very toxic and reactive 2. It’s unstable in any amount usable for this purpose and is likely to just decompose into oxygen after a short period of time(at which point a pure oxygen tank would be better) 3. The tank system for this would be not that much different from NOS. I just can’t see this being all that viable. And also, there are plenty of other oxidizers than Oxygen.
Day 88 of asking Donut to bring old B2B back
Okay so that second song starting at 4:08 slaps hard. First I thought it was just a door tweeter, then the piano came in hard.
Is Chick-fil-A sandwich is Better Than Popeyes?
Nitrous oxide is used because it can be liquefied so that it will only regasify after leaving the gas injection system, and this is important to avoid the system becoming too cold, and to cool down the air-fuel mixture and avoid detonation. To use pure oxygen gas injection, the compression ratio would have to be lowered, and the entire system would have to be heated. What I would do is to inject liquefied propane into the wet shot fogger together with the nitrous oxide, to lower intake temperature even more and avoid fuel condensation.
Day 169 of asking James to do best wagons of all time d list
#1 Volvo 245 Turbo.
#2 Volvo 850R Touring car
#3 Nissan Stagea 260R
#4 Audi RS6
#5 AMG 500e Hammer Wagon
#6 AMG E63
#7 Forester STI
@@bennyb.1742 don't forget the evo 9 wagon
Anyone else start having a panic attack at 4:20 when the back beat starts? Sounds like a open door bell from my 90s Ford
When he's said "it's holds up to 200 pounds each, that's half your mom" I laughed out loud and woke my girlfriend up 🤣
Nice try government. We don't have girlfriends here. 😎
@@SnoopyMiami15 lmaoooo 🤣
Love the show in general and pretty much everything in this show is spot on. I run an industrial ozone generator manufacturing company and always just wanted to try hitting the intake with some ozone, but every point made here was spot on. There are even a couple more that make it unfeasible. Only one error is that ozone isn't illegal in california, We have many clients in Cali including hospitals. I believe Jeremiah meant ozone used for air treatment. That is indeed illegal, and most of the products available are just plain trash anyway. Our equipment is used in water and sewage treatment. Not going to plug the company name as that isn't the point. Just wanted to show some support for the show since I actually have something relevant to add for once.
Max just wanted another episode with himself in it 😂 first he’s suing James and now he’s handing out fines 😂
Use an O2/N2 membrane on the intake to increase the concentration of O2 in the intake.
He speaks of "free oxygen" - given our need for oxygen to live, should oxygen be allowed to have civil rights?
Where do i sign up ?
@@matsmith5937 Oxygen is right in the middle of that carbon dioxide mess. Even plants want to subjugate it.
@@matsmith5937 Only at the daylight in the night plants use oxygen as well
Plants are almost oxygen neutral (they produce only a little more oxygen as they consume)
the real producer of the oxygen in the world are in the oceans namely the plankton.
which is increasingly under the threat because of humans pollution of the oceans
I hope you can make a video about stance i think it would be a very interesting content and besides it is also a big part of car culture good bless to your channel.
I love you guys on Donut Media! Everything is hilarious, entertaining and so educational. Keep it up!!
What about a compress air system. There is/was a small California company that was creating a CAS supercharger. Basically they used a scuba tank and special valves to boost an engine.
Just do watermeth injection. It gives you more oxygen by lowering the temperature, give you more fuel through methanol, cleans your engine intake, and lower emission through lower exhaust temp! Perfect solution.
What about a video on the science of coilovers, or more information on spring rates
The EPA came to their conclusions about ozone generators after testing them in confined spaces ten times smaller than they were rated for. A little ozone is probably good, for the reasons you specified, and occurs naturally in the air we breathe already. A lotta ozone is definitely bad, again for the reasons specified. See bigclive's video about ozone for more info.
James is the funniest but jereamiah is BY FAR the smartest at donut!! Thats why I love donut because you get the best of both worlds 💯✔
Typo alert: Get rid of the second "is" in your title.
They also mislabeled the tank at 3:07. He says nitrous oxide and the molecule is N2O, but the label says ozone.
ozone generators outlawed in CA is right up there with the ban on fireworks that resemble food
Yup I’m pretty sure there’s going to be a new Energy drink called Ozone Energy 😂
Edit: It turns out there is already an Energy Drink called Ozone Energy
There used to be some research into using liquid ozone instead of liquid diatomic oxygen as the oxidizer used in rocket engines. Because ozone is denser it will need smaller tanks to be stored and less volumetric flow rate to make the same power in the engine and to keep a rocket engine going. However there were some challenges that ultimately prevented common use of liquid ozone in rockets. The biggest problem being liquid ozone will explosively decompose into diatomic oxygen if hit with a hammer, or looked at the wrong way. Makes it pretty dangerous to pump or to store at all. It's also obviously a very good oxidizer and reacts with a lot of things violently.
Yall should get Cletus McFarland to come in and do a B2B on one of his rad Vetts
Be safe everyone.
BTW thanks for the video, just woke up and I love watching them before school..
“This nitrous setup is too heavy.” Said no one… ever.
Yeah, these aren't car guys, these are RUclipsrs, and they're not very bright either; O³ would yield three oxygen atoms, not molecules, those would be O², lol.
@@hlaw2830 and also the reason no one uses o2 tanks is because its too reactive lol
@@ernestocastellanos6446 At least that scene from The Fast and the Furious would make sense? Lol.
@@hlaw2830 Besides, I'm not sure O3 would have much advantage over O2. In theory with a 100% oxygen setup you could do almost 5 times your normal engine output. Imagine doing a 2500 shot on a stock LS7, wonder if something break or melts first.
I Already Love Engines but Add Jeremiah & I’m Hooked!🤞🏽😂
Dominic Toretto: I ain't got no Nos, I got family.
"Well I on the other hand, got a lot of NOS."
@@CheapBastard1988 *Family*
Lifts seat.......
@@yeasonwhat *FAMILY*
Could you say, increase efficiency by burning the same amount of fuel, with higher oxygen density under vacuum resulting in a much larger expansion ratio, and less resistance on the compression stroke?